Is market samurai's rank checker on the fritz ?

14 years ago

Originally Posted by cowboy123

My pages' ranks are not showing up in Market Samurai's Rank Checker, but I still see them in the first few pages when i look manually.

Is anyone else having this problem at the moment ? Also, is there a similar tool out there that does the same thing ?

If you have done quite a bit of pulling of data from Google, perhaps you just have a temporary IP block from Google (which should go away within a couple of hours). If that's the case, there is nothing to worry about. google just tries to prevent automated queries. Of course, using proxies helps get around that.

I personally use Rank Tracker by link-assistant.com for all of my rank tracking needs.

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cowboy123

14 years ago

ah okay thanks. I actually had MS's proxy enabled so maybe i'll fiddle with that

Originally Posted by Tom Goodwin

If you have done quite a bit of pulling of data from Google, perhaps you just have a temporary IP block from Google (which should go away within a couple of hours). If that's the case, there is nothing to worry about. google just tries to prevent automated queries. Of course, using proxies helps get around that.

I personally use Rank Tracker by link-assistant.com for all of my rank tracking needs.

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D Baker

14 years ago

I guess a fix will be available very soon. Market Samurai always issues fixes, almost on a daily basis.

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xiaoayuan

14 years ago

This happens to me. Recently I find the rank tracker is not accurate for some of my keywords. I mean, I use MS to check one keyword, MS states that it ranks out of 200, but actually I manually search, it ranks on position 20.

So should I use rank tracker less? (I just can’t help checking.) If Google temporary blocks IP, all of my keywords should be blocked, is it right? But I just find some of keywords have inaccurate rank positions.

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Brad Callen

14 years ago

Might as well post in the noblesamurai forum too. That way if anyone else experiences the problem they can find it easier in the future. Plus, who can give you better advice on this then the developers and creator.

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Richard Weiler 13 years ago

I got an update today from Market Samurai and it said no longer negativity effects local searches (or something of that nature) I had two sites drop form #30 on Google to not in the top 1000. Both sites were local.... I have been trying to track the source of the penalty. Does anyone know if it was a bug in Market Samurai? :confused:
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joeho

13 years ago

I also having the same issue, hopefully there is a update soon.

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Richard Weiler 13 years ago

They updated this morning. I hope the update fixes the issue.
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Richard Weiler

13 years ago

They updated this morning. I hope the update fixes the issue.

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mraffiliate

13 years ago

Well I was using the trial version the past few days and I have had the same problem of my sites being ranked and then they disappear for no reason and not showing up at all in the top 1,000

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Richard Weiler

13 years ago

Originally Posted by mraffiliate

Well I was using the trial version the past few days and I have had the same problem of my sites being ranked and then they disappear for no reason and not showing up at all in the top 1,000

Well it appears Google has cracked market samauri....... it is ashame. I don't know how I am going to get by with out it

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frankweerasinghe

13 years ago

Google may ban your ip for little time. Just wait few hours.

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Crew Chief

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Richard Weiler

Well it appears Google has cracked market samauri....... it is ashame. I don't know how I am going to get by with out it

Richard, I would characterize your statement as an overwhelmingly gross exaggeration.

First off, any tool, whether it be MS, SEO Quake, Traffic Travis or Rank Tracker by Link Assistant can suffer a temporary IP block when used improperly.

Note, "When used improperly." That statement denotes that at the moment you purchased MS, you were going to learn about its power, options and caveats.

Secondly, MS has a built in proxy servers; you need to check your settings to make certain they are enabled.

Thirdly, from reading your statement, you probably need to spend some time on the MS forum and learn about the powerful tool that you have.

Just some suggestions but you would do well to take heed.

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mraffiliate

13 years ago

I didn't change the proxy server settings like you describe here. I guess it would be nice if MS would make this very clear so that newbs can't overlook this. So If my IP got banned will it get unbanned on it's own?

Also if I can get my IP banned just for checking the rank of keywords for my sites does this mean this feature of MS is grey or black hat?

Originally Posted by Crew Chief

Richard, I would characterize your statement as an overwhelmingly gross exaggeration.

First off, any tool, whether it be MS, SEO Quake, Traffic Travis or Rank Tracker by Link Assistant can suffer a temporary IP block when used improperly.

Note, "When used improperly." That statement denotes that at the moment you purchased MS, you were going to learn about its power, options and caveats.

Secondly, MS has a built in proxy servers; you need to check your settings to make certain they are enabled.

Thirdly, from reading your statement, you probably need to spend some time on the MS forum and learn about the powerful tool that you have.

Just some suggestions but you would do well to take heed.

Giles, the Crew Chief

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Crew Chief

13 years ago

Originally Posted by mraffiliate

I didn't change the proxy server settings like you describe here. I guess it would be nice if MS would make this very clear so that newbs can't overlook this. So If my IP got banned will it get unbanned on it's own?

Also if I can get my IP banned just for checking the rank of keywords for my sites does this mean this feature of MS is grey or black hat?

Just so you know, I use MS and have a ton of projects in it and have never had my IP temporarily blocked. But, I have had temporary IP blocks using SEO Quake, Keyword Analyzer, Keyword Elite and a few other tools.

To be clear, it is not a "IP BAN." If that happened, you would never be allowed access again. What you experienced is a temporary denial of access for that particular IP, designed to reduce server resources and to discourage heavy/unauthorized BOT users. Like Tom said earlier, when it happens, go have a hot chocolate and a apple fritter and forgetaboutit.

As far as the GH or BH thing, the answer is, "NO!" MS is a authorized Google API that allows MS to read data from Google services.

Brad mentioned this earlier, if I were you, if you continue to have issues, go to the MS Forum and describe what's happening; you are sure to get a resolution.

To your success,

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Richard Weiler 13 years ago

[QUOTE=Crew Chief;2993477]Richard, I would characterize your statement as an overwhelmingly gross exaggeration.

First off, I love Market Samurai and I have been using it well over a year. It is one of the most powerful tools online.

I have never had any real trouble with my IP being blocked. That is not what I said in this thread.

However Market Samurai released an update the said

"Rank Tracker will No longer will negatively impact local search results."

I have two different sites that were ranking very well in Google and then mysteriously dropped out of the top 1000 search results. That is quite a slap for local.

I have been reaching out to other Warriors to see if they also experienced any negative impact locally from rank tracker.

I admit my statement was broad. I am trying to get down to the bottom of what got my sites slapped and I am curious if the update was an admission that there was a problem.

Once again Market Samurai is an amazing tool and if they had a problem no sweat. As long as they fixed the issue I will continue to use the rank tracker feature.

If not I will continue to use all of the other rich features in the program until it is fully resolved.

I still don't know how I could live with out the rank tracker feature.
I hope it really is fixed. Or I hope I am wrong and something else was the culprit.
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mraffiliate

13 years ago

What is the best way to see what happened to two sites that I had in the top 50 in Google and after using MS rank checker, these two sites aren't even in the top 1000 now.

Others have confirmed they have had the same issue. If for some odd reason these two sites were slapped by Google, is there a way I can contact Google to see what happened and what I can do to get these sites ranked again?

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Crew Chief

13 years ago

Originally Posted by mraffiliate

What is the best way to see what happened to two sites that I had in the top 50 in Google and after using MS rank checker, these two sites aren't even in the top 1000 now.

Others have confirmed they have had the same issue. If for some odd reason these two sites were slapped by Google, is there a way I can contact Google to see what happened and what I can do to get these sites ranked again?

Until you build the appropriate mixture of BLs, your sites are always going to fluctuate. Google does not guarantee rankings and no one else in SEO can guarantee your rankings either.

I have a large group of MS user in my network and not one of them has yet to contribute any rank fluctuations to using Market Samurai. Mind you, I personally use Market Samurai, Traffic Travis, Rank Tracker and a few other IMATs for comparative analysis, and again, I've not been able to reproduce this drop in rankings from running any of these tools.

That whole theory would be predicated upon believing that Google authorized Market Samurai access to the GOOG network VIA an API and then turns around and body slams MS users.

In most cases, you are going to find a "Anecdotal Coincidence." Meaning the MS user built some BLs of some type and turned around and checked their rankings and kept checking their rankings expecting to see a rankings increase, only to see the, "Not Found" under the ranking page category.

They in turn attribute that rankings drop to MS, when it is most likely tied to the blast of BLs, the competition, ALGO adjustments, different GOOG data centers, etc., etc.

Giles, the Crew Chief

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mraffiliate

13 years ago

Thanks for the response. I had two sites that dropped out of the top 1000 in Google at the same time after using MS to check ranking. Others had the same thing happen around the same time I did. Maybe it was a fluke but this is what happened.

Lets say worst case these sites were slapped, how would one go about getting them on Google's good side?

Originally Posted by Crew Chief

Until you build the appropriate mixture of BLs, your sites are always going to fluctuate. Google does not guarantee rankings and no one else in SEO can guarantee your rankings either.

I have a large group of MS user in my network and not one of them has yet to contribute any rank fluctuations to using Market Samurai. Mind you, I personally use Market Samurai, Traffic Travis, Rank Tracker and a few other IMATs for comparative analysis, and again, I've not been able to reproduce this drop in rankings from running any of these tools.

That whole theory would be predicated upon believing that Google authorized Market Samurai access to the GOOG network VIA an API and then turns around and body slams MS users.

In most cases, you are going to find a "Anecdotal Coincidence." Meaning the MS user built some BLs of some type and turned around and checked their rankings and kept checking their rankings expecting to see a rankings increase, only to see the, "Not Found" under the ranking page category.

They in turn attribute that rankings drop to MS, when it is most likely tied to the blast of BLs, the competition, ALGO adjustments, different GOOG data centers, etc., etc.

Giles, the Crew Chief

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Richard Weiler

13 years ago

I do not believe Market Samurai has a fatal flaw. Even if thee was a temporary problem they have a perfect record as far as bug fixes go in my book.

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iresh

13 years ago

i think it a temp problem .. you should try some Market Samurai fixes in the net

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Crew Chief

13 years ago

Originally Posted by mraffiliate

Thanks for the response. I had two sites that dropped out of the top 1000 in Google at the same time after using MS to check ranking. Others had the same thing happen around the same time I did. Maybe it was a fluke but this is what happened.

Lets say worst case these sites were slapped, how would one go about getting them on Google's good side?

REMEMBER: until you get the right combination of BLs, your sites are typically going to fluctuate in the SERPs. Consequently, it is not a matter of getting on Google's good side; it's more of a matter of building up the necessary BL buffer to get top SERP rankings.

Even then, once you arrive, you need to remain diligent about maintaining your rankings through one or more of these methods/strategies/tactics:

Routine BLink Maintenance
Reactionary BLink Maintenance
BLink Intimidation
BLink Obfuscation

The path you take, all depends on the competitive level of your Keyword Phrases.

Giles, the Crew Chief

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mraffiliate

13 years ago

Thanks for all the input Crew Chief,

I just did another check and one of the sites have showed back up under some of the keywords. I used the free version of link-assistant/ranktracker like you suggest and it is dead on accurate

One thing I noticed and I'm not sure if it is any indication of a problem, but I have been typing in the website in Google search and then checking when the last time Google has cached the homepage. Well today I did this and when I clicked on the "cached" link it showed this.

Your search - cache:v7CRj0zB8MsJ:myfriendswebsite.com/ http://myfriendswebsite.com/ - did not match any documents.

I have subsituted the site address with "myfriendswebsite.com" All other pages indexed by google shows the cached date except for the homepage, which showed the cached date yesterday but not today?

Originally Posted by Crew Chief

REMEMBER: until you get the right combination of BLs, your sites are typically going to fluctuate in the SERPs. Consequently, it is not a matter of getting on Google's good side; it's more of a matter of building up the necessary BL buffer to get top SERP rankings.

Even then, once you arrive, you need to remain diligent about maintaining your rankings through one or more of these methods/strategies/tactics:

Routine BLink Maintenance
Reactionary BLink Maintenance
BLink Intimidation
BLink Obfuscation

The path you take, all depends on the competitive level of your Keyword Phrases.

Giles, the Crew Chief

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johnalex1183

13 years ago

I usually use MS and see that it's 90% right

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Mikedb

13 years ago

MS is at least 2 pages of for days now.

There are other options, like a free WP plugin

regards,

Mike

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colinph970

13 years ago

I've actually got the opposite problem. Rankchecker tells me that my site is ranked number one on Google but when I do a search in Google it is nowhere to be seen. Any idea what's going on? What am I missing?

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