How many backlinks are enough?

Nomar86

14 years ago

Till you get the rankings you are after

but than, you have to maintain them. so you always need to work on your backlinks

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katbird

14 years ago

Keep working until you rank on the first page of google. Keep up the pace and you can move up within 12 - 18 months, just make sure you are using the right keywords.

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deloriagod

14 years ago

There's really never "enough" backlinks. If you stop building links, your rankings eventually begin to drop. Once you reach the #1 position for your keyword then you can slow down your link building but you can't stop entirely.

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ledbeauty

14 years ago

I've no idea of how many is enough. But I read another thread today. In the thread, the writer asked that will it be harmful for too many back links. I remember another article says that too many back links generated in a short period will make google suspect you. You can search related information on the net. Just be careful about the problem.

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thebarksmeow

14 years ago

What you need to ask is what is the trust factor/PR of those backlinks? Yeah every link counts, but if they are all low end links.. you'll be building forever. Try to get some high authority and.gov/.edu backlinks.

Oh yeah. I tested a site in a medium competitive niche and did nothing but blog comment spam. Site has no original content either. Just Amazon posts from reviewazon. I tried to force my site into the sandbox. I wanted google to penalize me. Google reported almost 1100 backlinks in one day and my site is sitting at the top of page 2. I haven't done anything in 2 months to see if I would fall off or get deindexed (just to see about that you need to continue building links, add content, slow and steady wins the race, blah blah blah). No backlinks, no added content, nothing. It's still sitting at the top of page 2. I don't believe in any of those b.s. theories "seo gurus" try to throw around to newbies.

P.S. The site was 4 days old when I did it.

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ptwain

14 years ago

Originally Posted by thebarksmeow

What you need to ask is what is the trust factor/PR of those backlinks? Yeah every link counts, but if they are all low end links.. you'll be building forever. Try to get some high authority and.gov/.edu backlinks.

Oh yeah. I tested a site in a medium competitive niche and did nothing but blog comment spam. Site has no original content either. Just Amazon posts from reviewazon. I tried to force my site into the sandbox. I wanted google to penalize me. Google reported almost 1100 backlinks in one day and my site is sitting at the top of page 2. I haven't done anything in 2 months to see if I would fall off or get deindexed (just to see about that you need to continue building links, add content, slow and steady wins the race, blah blah blah). No backlinks, no added content, nothing. It's still sitting at the top of page 2. I don't believe in any of those b.s. theories "seo gurus" try to throw around to newbies.

P.S. The site was 4 days old when I did it.

You are so right, I used to believe what other people said what to do and what not to do concerning SEO, and it really got me nowhere. The key is testing, and actually doing the work to see results.

John,

Based on the information you have provided it looks like you're trying to build an authority site in the nutrition, health arena. The problem is this is a very tough niche to crack because of extreme competition, and these topics are evergreen niches. Now, I don't like assuming but I is it fair to say you probably built those 1000 links to your home page? If I was you I would stop building links to my homepage and start building links to some of my inner pages or posts. By doing that, you should start seeing traffic from those pages after building some links to them.

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johnharvard

14 years ago

Originally Posted by ptwain

You are so right, I used to believe what other people said what to do and what not to do concerning SEO, and it really got me nowhere. The key is testing, and actually doing the work to see results.

John,

Based on the information you have provided it looks like you're trying to build an authority site in the nutrition, health arena. The problem is this is a very tough niche to crack because of extreme competition, and these topics are evergreen niches. Now, I don't like assuming but I is it fair to say you probably built those 1000 links to your home page? If I was you I would stop building links to my homepage and start building links to some of my inner pages or posts. By doing that, you should start seeing traffic from those pages after building some links to them.

Paul

You are right on the money. This is only my second site and naively I picked health, nutrition, etc. because it's an area that I've always been interested in and have a relative level of passion for. Learning as I go it became clear how competitive this niche is.
Yes, a vast majority of my links are to my home page and I recently arrived at the same conclusion - that I need to build more links to inner pages to that address a more specific topic.
Thanks for the advice.

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jhonsean

14 years ago

work on your regular activities in creating backlinks and also maintain what you have now, just wait for the google then when the site was matured already it will be rank up.

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biggoogle

14 years ago

Hey,

Try to mix up your backlinks to have variety. Also, it is best if there is a natural progression in the linkbuilding, meaning that you get more and more links over time. That looks natural to Google.

BigG

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ruworth

14 years ago

Just keep them going and going, there is no end

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~kev~

14 years ago

4 months, and 1,000 backlinks is ok. I dont think google updates your number of backlinks in its google webmaster tools daily, weekly or even monthly. Some links seem to show up pretty fast, while others seem to take 2 - 3 months to show up.

When you hit 6 - 9 months old, I think that is when your going to get a true measure of your backlinks.

Lets say your site is 9 months old and your still at 1,000 - that would seem a little "low". A forum signature should be able to give you that many backlinks with no problem. In one forum I have 10,000+ post - maybe 6,000 - 8,000 of that 10,000 have signature links. On another forum I have around 2,800 post, another forum 1,800 post, another forum 2,000 post,,,,,,. Just between those forums I could get around 15,000 backlinks. Then add any blog rolls and social bookmarking sites I submit to.

How many backlinks are enough? You can never have enough. To give you an idea, yahoo site explorer says my forum has 180,000 backlinks. And the site is 5 years and 5 months old. 90% - 95% of that 180,000 backlinks are natural.

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kposs

14 years ago

It's also not just how many backlinks you have total (although that is one aspect of rankings), but how many backlinks you have that contain the anchor text you're trying to rank for.

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johnharvard

14 years ago

Originally Posted by kposs

It's also not just how many backlinks you have total (although that is one aspect of rankings), but how many backlinks you have that contain the anchor text you're trying to rank for.

So, a comment on a blog post wouldn't count as much as a post in a forum with an accompanying sig file? Most blog comments only allow name, email and website name along with the actual comment.

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kposs

14 years ago

Originally Posted by johnharvard

So, a comment on a blog post wouldn't count as much as a post in a forum with an accompanying sig file? Most blog comments only allow name, email and website name along with the actual comment.

Yes. The #1 ranking factor is the anchor text. It's not like a blog comment backlink will not help at all (link volume to both the page and domain in general are also ranking factors), but your goal should be to get as many links with your anchor text as possible.

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adddirectoryp

14 years ago

Not enough for the backlinks.

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- kalens99 14 years ago
  
  Exactly you seem to placing far too much emphasis on counting your backlinks with the expectation that Google simply counts the number of backlinks to your site and moves the sites with the most up through the SERPs. Negatory. There are a few things you must think of.
  
  Pagerank is an indicator of the value of a link. Don't get me wrong, pagerank isn't everything and probably not even the most important part of link-building, but think about this for a moment. A backlink from a PR 2 site probably has 6 times the value of a PR 1 site and a PR 3 link 6 times the value of a PR 2 site (based on the current approximation of the algorithm). So a standard PR 6 link has about 8,000 times the value of a PR 1 link. kind of a lot huh? Now let's assume for a second that the PR 6 link is only sharing link juice with ten other links while the PR 1 page is sharing with 100. That factor becomes 80,000. Just a quantitative view of how Google considers some links MUCH more valuable than others.
  
  Relevance is probably more important than Pagerank and the algorithm is now as clearly understood. However, similar concepts apply. Do the links come from pages that have the keywords you are optimizing for in them? how often do they appear? in addition to having the keyword in the anchor (very important) is the keyword also near link itself? is the keyword in the url of the page linking to you? Is the site itself relevant? is the page semantically related to the keyword you are optimizing (ie. if you are optimizing for Apple Computer does the page talk about Steve Jobs or iPods)?
  
  most importantly make sure the nofollow tag is not used. If most of the links you built were nofollow, your months of linkbuilding were wasted. The other repliers are not entirely right about being penalized by the number of links. You are never penalized for having too many links but for building too many links too quickly. Therefore, your only way to meet your goal is to build quality links rather than spam. Quality links (higher PR, higher relevance and from more trusted sources such as directories) take longer to build but they are much more worth it. In the time you could spam 100 or 300 links you can build 10 or 20 high quality links that will actually be helpful for you in the long run.
  
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  danidon639 14 years ago
  
  Hi,
  In this field there is a lot of competition fro backlinks. So there is no limit for that. If we can put a limit, all will achieve for it and so, its not possible. You need to have many more backlinks to get top in here.
  Good luck...
  
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euseo

14 years ago

It depends on competitor. If you can do onsite SEO do it to maximum you will be rewarded.

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patmaro

14 years ago

A variety of bank links works best ie articles, web 2.0 content site, blogs, forums etc.

Try to get as many backlinks as possible

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Nazbir.Bd 14 years ago

Originally Posted by andygame0

nice nice good

A very informative reply :confused:
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seoweb2000

14 years ago

What kind of content are you posting?

Are you posting rehashed content from PLR articles?

Are your forum post short and offer nothing of value? like " thanks" etc, just for the purpose of building backlinks.

What about your site? Does it offer something of value? Is there a reason for someone to come visit and be wowed, and go tell all of their friends about your site?

What I am trying to get at is that if you have 1000 backlinks, you would be getting some target traffic if you were posting valuable content on all of the other sites.

I was exactly where you are a few years ago when I first started in Internet Marketing. I slapped a site together, build a ton of backlinks to it using a few anchor text. I spent hrs working feverishly, but little traffic and zero conversion.

I had to step back and re-evaluate my whole marketing plan. I had to redo everything almost, at the every least I had to redo my thought process.

I went from wanting to get on the first page of google to thinking about conversion. After all if you got 1000 visitors to your site and they all stay for 10 sec and left, what's the point, right?

So the key should be get 20 visitors to your site who will stay for a while, read your content, click your affiliate links, and opt-in for your mailing list.

My advice to you is stop thinking about how many backlinks you need, instead think about how to get targeted visitors to come to your site and how to make them stay/buy. gl
Hope this helps.

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wiseseoservice

14 years ago

You will never have enough backlinks. It is a full time job...

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nakmuay7

14 years ago

Its always a question of how many does your number one competition has and then get all the ones they have plus more.

there are other strategies but just link link link seems to be the best way to go. don't stop till u hit number one on page one.

once u hit page one, double your daily link strategy

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Roberto L

14 years ago

I am a rookie SEOer but based on my experience, the content and updating rate and ways is much important than the links campaign because link is for attract people but when the people or GG comes, they left if there is not enough interesting things to read or to be indexed.

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mariogames

14 years ago

build backlink is your life

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rockli

14 years ago

don't you think your site have a big stomach ? you won't feed it full by links !
but you can make it popular enough that people can help you to feed it !
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seoforu

14 years ago

There is no limit as to how many links are enough but I would say "Quality is better than quantity" so increasing quality backlinks would give you a better results rather than increasing the quantity.

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va_mom

14 years ago

Yes, building backlinks should be continues - even more when you are already on Page 1.

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pauljyron

14 years ago

till you get the sales or profit you've been dreaming of :>

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sax.sunny

14 years ago

Lot of misguided answers in comments. Let me try to answer you appropriately.

First of all from your post it seems you haven't researched your keywords appropriately.

If you did, you need to build links by putting those keywords as an Anchored Text. It's important to understand this.

Now to answer your question how many backlinks - Follow these steps.

1. Enter your keyword in Google and hit enter. Copy the URL of top 5 websites.

2. Go to Yahoo Site Explorer (Site Explorer - Yahoo! Site Explorer) and enter each website URL one by one and study them. Look at the number of backlinks. Also take a note all those websites your competitors are getting links from.

3. If the top 5 websites have about 2000 backlinks (on average), you could build about 2500 backlinks from a good source (Authority websites, Article Directories, High PR websites, Link Exchanges etc.) and easily outrun those 5 websites to be on top of the Google.

Once you're on top, then it's okay to say, backlinks are never enough. Why because others will try to outrun you by building 3000 backlinks. So to stay on top forever, you need to grow your backlinks forever.

Just building 100,000 backlinks blindly for any keyword, without even analyzing your competitors wouldn't help at all.

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johnharvard 14 years ago

You are correct. My understanding of backlinks is that you just have to have them and didn't realize how important it is that the anchor text must match what is being searched for. I can see how that would make a big difference.

So, let's say that your site deals with "topic a" and "topic b". When someone searches for "topic a" is it reasonable to conclude that none of the backlinks for "topic b" carry any weight in the search results?
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rypher21

14 years ago

if you want to be consistent and improve more...then theres no such term as enough backlinks..its a continues process

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masterseo

14 years ago

Try to get backlink from high pagerank webpages so that your website get ranking.

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sax.sunny

14 years ago

They certainly do, but those backlinks for "topic b" are relevant to "topic b", as far as search results are concerned.

No offense please, but you're making it more complex.

To simplify, here is how to think about keywords and rankings...

Each keyword has a set of results in a search engine. e.g. You enter a keyword "Google" in the search engine, and it displays a set of URLs/Websites as a search result.

Now, your main focus should be to appear on top of a search result for a specific keyword.

Instead of thinking about "Topic A" and "Topic B" think about "Keyword A" and "Keyword B". Any single topic can have multiple keywords linking back to it. But start with a single keyword.

A Good example most marketers use is Adobe Acrobat Reader

Enter "Click Here" without quotes in a search engine and you'll get Adobe Reader in first position.

Now even if you enter "Acrobat" without quotes in a search engine, you'll still get Adobe Reader in first position.

So, to answer you question, Topic A could have multiple keywords linking back and even Topic B could have multiple keywords linking back to it. They all do carry some weight.

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oneit

14 years ago

Keep on building the backlinks and with good pr sites there is no limitation...

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seovcim 14 years ago

Hi friends ..........

I want to tell you that atleast 20 links in a day ,has to be created.More to thousand links in only 4 months really very good.

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DavesKIEST

14 years ago

There no such thing as too many backlinks!!!
Even when you get your ranking, you still have to maintain the site ranks…

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Larry Moskovitz

14 years ago

Every owner of a site thinks how he can increase the traffic in his site & also search engine rankings.
If you want your site to be ranked high in the search engine,used the number of high-quality links that help us getting back link for increase the ranking.
Getting back links is the only way to increase the page rank getting back link is the process of improving the visibility of a web site....

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caitlinrose

14 years ago

No limit it's depend on quality of links try to collect most relevant links for your website...

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neil10anderson

14 years ago

hi,
There are no limitation for backlinks because it helps us to improve our website rank, it is a part of off page and plz pay attention about the fact that you never make unwanted link or unwanted post on irrelevant post otherwise you will be blocked by moderator.

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shania david

14 years ago

Well, you need to maintain a good ration of back links as long as you are being paid to keep the website on a decent level.

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Gary Pettit

14 years ago

Hmm...I'd say about 50000,0000,000 Ha Ha! Really, you can never have enough backlinks...it's an ongoing proccess

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robertransey

14 years ago

The quality of backlinks received is given more weightage as equated to the quantity. Your page ranks are based on legitimacy and incredibility of incoming links.

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