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Fake PR or Not?

by seoed
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hello dear seos,

there is a seo who claims that the following PRs are valid because the "cache:www.domain.com" command shows that website. I said, this command is not enough, we need to check their backlinks.

I did that and there is even one with just 4 backlinks, only 1 has a PR3, the rest nothing and this site has a PR4! This cannot be! What do you think?

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Moreover, that guy also claims this:
It's not necessary that high PR link will give you high PR if you adopt good link building with lower PR and optimize your website very well you can also achieve PR4 and PR5
Never heard of that before! You?

Thanks for contributing.

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  • Profile picture of the author skibbz
    Originally Posted by seoed View Post

    I did that and there is even one with just 4 backlinks, only 1 has a PR3, the rest nothing and this site has a PR4! This cannot be! What do you think?
    something looks wrong, 4 backlinks with PR3????? looks like someone cooked something up
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  • Profile picture of the author seoed
    that is exactly what I also thought. The question is, does that what was cooked up taste well?
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
    First, using cache is nonsense.

    Second, I think you are misusing the word "Fake" here. In SEO, a Fake PR is when someone uses a 301 permanent redirect of a higher PR domain to another domain. This isn't always, or even usually, with an evil purpose. For instance, if I have a domain with with age and authority but a non-brandable domain name, I might buy a brandable domain name and 301 redirect the old authority domain to the new brandable domain name. The evil part only comes in if they try to sell the Fake PR domain without disclosing the 301 redirect.

    The way to check for a Fake PR is doing an "info:" search in Google.

    If i wanted to check on this forum, for instance, I would do search in Google:

    info:warriorforum.com


    If the 1st result is NOT warriorforum.com (say it is w!ckedfire.com), then the PR of warriorforum would not be "real" and really would just be the PR of w!ckedfire.com


    Now, you seem to be asking if the PR is really worth the PR that is showing up in the PR toolbar (this is different than saying that it is a Fake PR).

    First, keep in mind that Google updates the publicly displayed PR in the toolbar only a few times a year, but the actual PR of pages on the Web constantly change. so, a site might show a PR4 in the Google toolbar, but might only be valued by Google currently as a PR1 or a PR7. But, that has nothing to do with "fake" PR.

    Also, what did you use to check backlinks? I hope you didn't use google (using the link:" search), as that is pure garbage.

    Tom

    Originally Posted by seoed View Post

    hello dear seos,

    there is a seo who claims that the following PRs are valid because the "cache:www.domain.com" command shows that website. I said, this command is not enough, we need to check their backlinks.

    I did that and there is even one with just 4 backlinks, only 1 has a PR3, the rest nothing and this site has a PR4! This cannot be! What do you think?

    best seo tips
    Small Wonders Education

    Moreover, that guy also claims this:


    Never heard of that before! You?

    Thanks for contributing.

    Regards
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  • Profile picture of the author seoed
    of course, I didnt use Google, but Yahoo. in this case, I used yahoo.de because this one doesnt show muliple backlinks from the same domain.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
      Originally Posted by seoed View Post

      of course, I didnt use Google, but Yahoo. in this case, I used yahoo.de because this one doesnt show muliple backlinks from the same domain.
      Link for the site explorer at yahoo.de?

      Thx
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      • Profile picture of the author paulgl
        Very real to get PR3 with even 1 backlink. Not sure why people think
        something would be fishy. I have a PR4 site with less than 10 backlinks.

        The number of backlinks is irrelevant to PR.

        Chances are, if you go to the site and it does not load,
        the PR may indeed be faked.

        It also means the site, most likely, is not indexed. There would
        be nothing there.

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  • Profile picture of the author seoed
    ok, here is the link for the site explorer:
    Site Explorer - Suchergebnisse

    Very real to get PR3 with even 1 backlink. Not sure why people think
    something would be fishy. I have a PR4 site with less than 10 backlinks.
    ok, but what PR do these 10 backlinks have?
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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      Originally Posted by seoed View Post

      ok, but what PR do these 10 backlinks have?
      They range from PR4 to PR7.

      People mistake the number of backlinks as a sign of PR.

      I used to think PR was a product of the PR of your backlinks.
      It is my opinion, that google takes into account not only the PR,
      but the authority, trustworthiness, age, etc. of the backlinking sites,
      as well as the site itself. That's why it's possible to jump in PR and
      not get anymore backlinks. That site in question is in fact an authority
      site.

      However, I will fully admit that when one gets into the PR7 and
      above territory, the number may have more of a play. But it means
      first you got quite a bit of authority and now you need more votes.
      The jump from PR7 to PR8 is probably tougher than PR3 to PR4. Yes,
      this is just my opinion. If anyone else has other thoughts, I can't
      argue.

      Paul
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  • Profile picture of the author seoed
    They range from PR4 to PR7.
    There you have it! Of course you will get a PR4! But the site in question has just 4 backlinks with:
    1 PR3
    3 NAs

    Tell me, which matured and trusted authority in the world can do that?
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