What the Hell is Going on... Sorry for the Obligatory READ THIS Title But Seriously!

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So I've been creating backlinks via forum profiles where I'll get links pointing back from the forum to dozens of articles I've written on various topics. I've analyzed the backlinks of other writer's articles and that method seemed to be working for them as their articles rank quite well for whatever they're targeting.

I decided to check my progress on one article in particular of mine to see how it was doing in the SERPs for the phrase I was targeting and I can't find it at least on the first 16 pages of listings. This is an article I wrote over a year ago which I only started building backlinks to in the past few months, there's no reason it shouldn't be appearing somewhere in there at least.

What's more puzzling is there is an Ezine article from some guy on the first page for that search term around position 6 and upon checking his backlinks he has 5 versus my 50ish, none of which of his are from PR sites, in fact 3 are from Ezine itself, 1 is from some random spammy blog,

BUT!

MOST puzzling of all is the final link which is for this one site with a ton of random code in the URL, but when I checked it out to see what kind of site it was and the PR for it and all that, IT REDIRECTED TO A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ARTICLE WHICH I WROTE FOR THE SAME NICHE ON EZINE which targets the same keyword phrase plus an extra word at the end.

This was without practically any poking around I come upon this. I feel like I'm in the Truman Show or something, what the hell is going on with this and why is a short no PR article enjoying first page listing with no link building to back it up and I can't even find mine...?
#hell #obligatory #read #title
  • Profile picture of the author RanD
    Honestly, I think you are spending way to much effort trying to rank an Ezine article. Spend that ranking your own site. Put the article on your own site and backilink that page. All you really care about is the baclinks your site gets from ezine. Your article basically sits on a page rank 0 page. If you can easily get it to rank well for the extra traffic, fine, but don't waste too much time on it.

    And the site you mentioned with your stuff on it...yeah, that happens all the time. Articles from Ezine are scraped by auto blogging software, some of which remove your links.
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    • Profile picture of the author davidjames42973
      Isn't it funny how some things rank better than others? I fight with this problem on a daily basis. Create a ton of articles and see which one ranks the best. Then once you have one that begins to rank OK, begin building backlinks to that one.

      Try building backlinks from other sources besides forums. Sometimes you need to shake it up a bit. Build backlinks from blogs, backlinks from forums, backlinks from other article sites, backlinks with high pagerank, backlinks with do follow and backlinks with no follow.

      Sometimes it's just a game of patience...
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  • Profile picture of the author sparckyz
    Agree with RanD and focus on primary site. Could post hundreds of ezine articles and maybe only have one that becomes popular
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    There are a LOT of criteria google uses. It would be nice to rank well on every word, but FORGET IT! It won't happen! Position and saturation DO play a part. Over saturate, or have the term too low, and you start LOSING the ranking!

    Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    Originally Posted by trentonlaura View Post

    What the hell is going on with this and why is a short no PR article enjoying first page listing with no link building to back it up and I can't even find mine...?

    Newer articles tend to rise fast and fall out of favor later...

    If that article is on one of EZA's top ten lists, then it is getting a lot of juice to add to its "new" factor...

    At the end of the day, the quality of your links will determine where you fall in the results...

    If you have 50'ish Crap'ish links, then 50 more crap links will do you know good at all... Your article will remain towards the bottom of Google's search results...

    If you want your article to show up closer to the top in Google, then you either need to get links on pages that have real link popularity value, or you need to make sure the links already pointing to your article gain some real link popularity...

    You can orchestrate getting link popularity on all or several of the pages linking to your article, but it does require some "thoughtful work" on your part...

    Chances are that article that offends you for being high in Google will drop out of Google's top results in 60 days or less...

    But that is not your major concern...

    Your concern is figuring out how to get your article there...

    Links in and of themselves are not going to get your article there, but rather, links with real link popularity will help your article reach the top of Google...

    It is not hard to do, but it does take some extra work...

    Are you up for it?
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    • Profile picture of the author affilcrazy
      As mentioned, the aim really should be to rank your own site, as opposed to the articles that are "linking to your site". With that said, I also agree with the comment about diversifying your backlinks.

      However, in my personal experience, articles that tend to rank well with merely forum profile backlinks are published on GoArticles, Articlesbase, Squidoo, Hubpages and Scribd. (I'm still not actually sure whether or not we should be discussing this kind of backlinking strategy here @ WF).

      If you want to know more about certain backlinking strategies, you may be better off visiting the most relevant area of the forum - Adsense / PPC / SEO Discussion Forum and once again, in my personal experience, I have found that Terry Kyle and Pat Jackson appear to be authorities on this type of backlinking.

      Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author Terry Crim
    How many backlinks do you have to the article and how many people have reposted it on their sites? The people that get high placement in SE's consistantly have many many backlinks to the article itself, many are paid placement where they outsourced thousands of links all over the place and in EA itself the number of people that use the article comes into play also.

    If noone likes the article, doesn't use it your ranking will go down in EZ compared to those articles that do get reposted.

    Articles are great way to get attention to you and your site but just putting them out there and waiting isn't going to cut it anymore. You have to be proactive and get eyeballs to the article.

    You can write articles for SE's or write articles for real people, the best results I see are those written for both but with the new changes at google recently it is "easier"? to get rankings than before with terms, phrases, keywords.

    I think a good marekting campaign should consist of Articles, SEO, Paid Advertising if you can afford it which may or may not include PPC or PPV, backlinking etc... Don't just settle for one method instead use as many as you can.

    It would be more than a fulltime job to manage and do all this without some sort of outsourcing help, when you can afford to do that I would recommend outsourcing a lot of the work, placing of articles, backlinking, Offsite SEO etc... you may or may not want to outsource the writing of articles, plr repurposing, blog posting, comment posting or what have you depends on what you are promoting or if you are name branding etc..


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