Whats the best way I can increase my articles rankings in google

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Hey!

Thanks for reading and keeping this fantastic forum, vibrant and full of great positive ideas sharing.

So i'm eager to increase my articles rankings, their good articles, with good titles and keywords. (All on ezinearticles)

The problem is they don't rank well in google....

More specifically i'm asking whats the best method of backlinking to improve my articles google ranking - i.e. in other articles in web.2, or in yahoo answers ect?

Please only answer if you've had positive experience with the idea you recommend, I understand you may have heard it from one respected source or another, but please answer only if you actually used it with success of increasing your google ranking.

Thanks very much, I am ever grateful.

Sam
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by sam132 View Post

    So i'm eager to increase my articles rankings, their good articles, with good titles and keywords. (All on ezinearticles)
    Sam, why are they "all on EzineArticles"? Why aren't they on your own site first and foremost and after that on EZA?! :confused:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...eza-first.html

    You're asking how to increase the ranking of something that's on someone else's site. I recommend not doing that at all. I used to do it at one time but have now learned better (and am making a very good living through article marketing, having learned better), and I now increase the ranking of the copies of those articles on my own sites instead. Yes, they're on EZA too, and I get all the benefits of that - but it's my own site I want to rank highly, not their own site.

    Not because it's "unnecessary" to boost their site on Google, but because in spite of the potential shorter-term traffic gain, it can really limit and possibly even damage your business in the longer term.

    What you're asking about is a way of generating traffic from backlinking work (or however else) and sending it to someone else's site. I want to deveop my sites, not other people's.

    It's easy to imagine, if you build backlinks to copies of your articles at Ezine Articles, for instance, that you're "getting a lot of traffic from EZA". But in the long run, you're really not: what you're actually doing is sending a lot of traffic there, which you could have sent to your own site instead, and getting only some of it back - losing a good proportion of it to EZA's AdSense (which is of course how they make a living and what they're there for).

    It's really about "how you use article directories". You might be well advised make sure you use to them to get traffic to your site from them, and not to send traffic that you yourself are generating with your backlinking efforts to them. In the long run, every backlink you create to an article directory actually makes it potentially harder and less likely for your own site to be built up into an authority site, because you'll gradually be ensuring that article directories (who may have some "SEO start" over your site anyway?) will always outrank your own site for your own keywords.

    It's one of those questions in internet marketing (there are others!) about which, if you ask two different groups of people, namely "people trying article marketing" and "people making a good living from article marketing", you'll typically find two very different consensuses of opinion. In other words, some people may disagree with what I'm saying here - but do bear in mind that in a field of endeavour with quite a high fail-rate, sometimes the "consensus view" may not be too reliable, and they might mostly be the ones not earning so much. Just my opinion.

    There is a short-term benefit to doing what you're asking about, of course, which is why it leads so many people astray. The further you fall into the trap of that short-term benefit (and it really is a trap!), the more you potentially damage your own site's long-term, future SEO prospects. And you end up with one of those "rinse and repeat" businesses instead of one based on gradually increasing residual income.

    When you have time for a long, informative, educational read, you'll really find a lot of the incidental conversation in this fine thread very helpful. Good luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author Beatrice
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post


      You're asking how to increase the ranking of something that's on someone else's site. I recommend not doing that at all.
      Thanks for the info
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  • Profile picture of the author Barry Unruh
    Sam,

    I'm going to contradict only one thing Alexa said. She said "when you have time" to go read that thread. That is completely WRONG. You need to go read it RIGHT NOW.

    It will change your mindset on how to work with your articles very quickly. It may consume a few hours, but they are more valuable hours than cranking out a few more articles and then submitting them the wrong way.

    Go grab a pot of coffee, put on some good tunes, and start reading the thread. You will quickly be back to click the "Thanks" button under Alexa's post.
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  • Profile picture of the author rmolina88
    I need to build my own site soon!
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  • Profile picture of the author Apollo-Articles
    Oh jeez, article marketing just kicked my ass once more.

    I figured it would be better to backlink to ezine since its a high PR site, and well my blogger is not, and would be a lot harder to build up to the ranking that ezine has.

    But i''ll tell you, since you guys have answered my questions in the past, and its people like you that make this forum so useful, I will go and read that thread now, all of it.

    As my question is probably answered within that long thread.

    Thanks,

    Sam
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    • Profile picture of the author GaryHarvey
      I figured it would be better to backlink to ezine since its a high PR site, and well my blogger is not,
      What? Is your site at blogger.com?
      I hope not, Sam.

      You need YOUR site. We all do.

      Gary
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  • Profile picture of the author Apollo-Articles
    Yes it is Gary,

    What would you recommend, a word-press, or a traditional website?

    After reading what I have so far (3 pages and feeling light headed!)

    Is there point in putting 10 articles currently on ezinearticles on my blog?

    Since google wont show all the results which show the same title and body, is there point in submitting the same article to different directories?

    Sam
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by sam132 View Post

      would you recommend, a word-press, or a traditional website?
      It doesn't matter.

      People say that "Google loves blogs", but the reality is that Google loves "regularly updated websites" and blogs tend to be regularly updated websites, though other sites can be, too. It's not the fact that they're blogs that Google loves, in other words.

      Wordpress has some plugins available that help with SEO, though. This means having your own hosting.

      The main problem with Blogger isn't that it's hard to rank (I don't believe it is, anyway); it's the fact that you don't own it, and have their terms of service and their rather inconsistent, idiosyncratic interpretations of them, to worry about all the time.

      Originally Posted by sam132 View Post

      Is there point in putting 10 articles currently on ezinearticles on my blog?
      Not now, really - they're indexed on EZA. In future, I'd just do that the other way round (as per the thread you're reading!). But I agree with Gary in that I wouldn't, myself, be investing too much time/effort in a site I don't own, I'm afraid.

      Originally Posted by sam132 View Post

      Since google wont show all the results which show the same title and body, is there point in submitting the same article to different directories?
      Yes. You're right - Google normally won't do that (it can occasionally happen). But the backlink value is the same whether your syndicated article copies are in the main index or the supplemental one. In other words, there's still backlink value, not so much traffic value.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tony Marriott
      Hi,

      Self hosted Wordpress is the easiest way to get online. It also is very good for your basic on-page SEO and seems to be in favour with Google.

      As for posting your EZ articles. I think thats one you might get some contradictions with too! and duplicate content is whole new dicusion but..

      Probably, and easy to do, best to just reword your articles, keeping the keywords in place of course. That way you'll have no issues.

      Tony
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by Tony Marriott View Post

        I think thats one you might get some contradictions with too! and duplicate content is whole new dicusion but..
        ... but fortunately not one that's too relevant here, because this point's about "syndicated content", not "duplicate content".

        Originally Posted by Tony Marriott View Post

        Probably, and easy to do, best to just reword your articles, keeping the keywords in place of course. That way you'll have no issues.
        All I can say to that (without writing a book) is that I completely disagree with it.
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      • Profile picture of the author Apollo-Articles
        Okay thanks Alexa,

        Well at least I put the first 11 on my blog first.

        However if I were to now create a self hosted wordpress, it would be a catch 22, since the articles were already on my blog/ezine, so would only be worth it for the new articles I add, is this correct?

        Also do you link to your original article in your ezine articles? Or do you backlink elsewhere, and simply use ezine as a secondary source for back-linking to your squeeze page?

        Since I have a squeeze page and a blog, and I want to drive the traffic ultimately to the squeeze page.

        Sam
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        • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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          Originally Posted by sam132 View Post

          However if I were to now create a self hosted wordpress, it would be a catch 22, since the articles were already on my blog/ezine, so would only be worth it for the new articles I add, is this correct?
          This isn't easy for anyone to answer with certainty. One possibility is to re-write them, well, by hand, and post them "like new articles" and hope to get them indexed again in the main index, which ought to be possible. It's not a lot less time-consuming (maybe not any less time-consuming) than writing new articles, but at least some starting-material's there for them?

          The thing is that if you're going to make the move from Blogger to self-hosted Wordpress, the sooner the better, really, and at least that minimises the extent and duration of the "Catch22"? I think this is how I'd look at it, anyway.

          Originally Posted by sam132 View Post

          Also do you link to your original article in your ezine articles?
          Never. You wouldn't want to send people from an article's resource-box to another copy of the same article.

          (Some people - totally wrongly, of course - even use this as a "reason" for not posting the content on their own site first! :rolleyes: ).

          I send them back to my landing-page (front page), to start with, but as I gradually build a site up, I start linking to its inner pages as well.

          Originally Posted by sam132 View Post

          Or do you backlink elsewhere, and simply use ezine as a secondary source for back-linking to your squeeze page?
          Mine are slightly unusual in that I don't actually use a squeeze-page at all (I'm not suggesting that you shouldn't!). I have sites made with bloggy software (actually not Wordpress) and I have a prominent, incentivized opt-in in a "sidebar" so that it shows on every page, usually near the top right corner. I tested about half my niches with squeeze pages but did better without them, I think because I do well by sending my article-derived traffic to a "content-filled site" because, in my case, having all the content visible encourages people to sign up. When I go into new niches, I now do this (rightly or wrongly) without testing each one separately with a squeeze page.

          I have all those articles on my sites and have them indexed there prior to EZA-submission, of course, for the good it does my own sites' SEO, but they're not always prominent.

          If people hang around on my site for long enough actually to notice that there's also another copy there somewhere of the article they just read, I'm delighted, because they're serious visitors.

          One of the additional advantages of always posting content to your own site first is that the site gradually grows and is at least semi-regularly updated, which Google likes.
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          • Profile picture of the author Apollo-Articles
            Thanks again, for your answers.

            Sounds like I might be almost starting again then :/\

            I think you've definitely got a good working idea with the blog and optin all in one. I think I'm going to opt for this idea, and write new articles (posting them here first )

            Do you have to back-link the individual pages of the blog (i.e. 404 - Not Found), in order for it to rank, or simply by backlinking the blog domain itself (i.e. www.yourblog.com)?

            Sam
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            • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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              Originally Posted by sam132 View Post

              I think you've definitely got a good working idea with the blog and optin all in one. I think I'm going to opt for this idea, and write new articles (posting them here first )
              Well, don't let the fact that this works better for me convince you that it's necessarily going to work better for you, too. It's rarely as simple as this, unfortunately. (I strongly suspect that the reason it works better for me is that my long, wordy, controversial, entertaining articles are attracting people who want to see long, wordy, controversial, entertaining content on a site before they'll opt in. You have to "match your offer to the market"!)

              Originally Posted by sam132 View Post

              Do you have to back-link the individual pages of the blog (i.e. 404 - Not Found), in order for it to rank, or simply by backlinking the blog domain itself (i.e. www.yourblog.com)?
              Pages rank, not sites. But you'd want your landing-page to be well optimised before you start trying to boost the SERP's position of the inner pages, I think.
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            • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
              Originally Posted by sam132 View Post

              Do you have to back-link the individual pages of the blog (i.e. 404 - Not Found), in order for it to rank, or simply by backlinking the blog domain itself (i.e. www.yourblog.com)?

              Sam
              Sam, keep your main objective in mind. From your sig, it seems that your goal is to make sales. Yes?

              In that case, why would you even think about trying to rank a 404 page, a privacy policy, etc?

              You want to rank the pages that can either make you money or direct people to the pages that can make you money. Usually, for a blog-type site, that means trying to rank the home page and individual post pages (articles), and relying on links to move visitors where you want them.

              Always do things with your main objective in mind. I've never paid a tab with a Google ranking, nor has a search spider ever bought anything from me. Focus on getting people to your blog/website/squeeze page/whatever...

              I'm not going to cover much of what Alexa already has, as we tend to see eye-to-eye on these things. I'll just mention one thing...

              You can "self-syndicate" the articles you already have on EZA and your blogger account. Just drip them in gradually, and add a little note or graphic that says "originally published on [date] at [site]" and leave your own resource box in the article.

              I like to use this type of article as fill-in-the-gaps content, something I can just plug in when life gets in the way of writing new stuff. Even newspaper columnists will trot out a 'best of' column if they go on vacation or get sick.
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              • Profile picture of the author gregw2
                Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

                Sam, keep your main objective in mind. From your sig, it seems that your goal is to make sales. Yes?

                In that case, why would you even think about trying to rank a 404 page, a privacy policy, etc?

                You want to rank the pages that can either make you money or direct people to the pages that can make you money. Usually, for a blog-type site, that means trying to rank the home page and individual post pages (articles), and relying on links to move visitors where you want them.

                Always do things with your main objective in mind. I've never paid a tab with a Google ranking, nor has a search spider ever bought anything from me. Focus on getting people to your blog/website/squeeze page/whatever...

                I'm not going to cover much of what Alexa already has, as we tend to see eye-to-eye on these things. I'll just mention one thing...

                You can "self-syndicate" the articles you already have on EZA and your blogger account. Just drip them in gradually, and add a little note or graphic that says "originally published on [date] at [site]" and leave your own resource box in the article.

                I like to use this type of article as fill-in-the-gaps content, something I can just plug in when life gets in the way of writing new stuff. Even newspaper columnists will trot out a 'best of' column if they go on vacation or get sick.
                Excellent advice.
                It is so true that the objective can be lost in the quest to display pertinent content.

                I have used guest posters on blog sites and have the admin control to use. I always give the guest poster the credit for their post because it is their words. If I change their post then I continue to give them credit for the original post but it is obvious that I have modified it to my own personal liking.

                This is called literary license. And is subscribed to by all of the major news agencies.

                You do not have to justify the reasons why you change the content of an article or feed.

                It is your literacy license that frees you to interpret it as you do.

                If you are a true journalist you will try to quote everything verbatim.

                But..., that, or this, does not force anyone to conform to this unwritten rule of journalism.

                You can choose to change anything that you wish to and hope that no one takes notice.

                Or, you can be honest and give the credit to the original writer and reporter, with your interpretation.
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  • Profile picture of the author simaurile
    Hey Sam,

    An easy way I use is to head out to socialmarker.com and socially submit my article(once its approved) to topp Social Bookmarking websites.Helps a lot for the articles to rank.Also,if you can get a video done and posted to Youtube,like just a video presentation,and in the description you link to your article,helps another great a lot!



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