Is This A Problem? Is This Black Hat?

14 years ago

This is considered as black hat technique and almost all spammers does this to get ranked in the search engine. If your content is good then I don't think that google will considered it as bad and no need to worry as there are chances of getting backlinks and traffic through this.

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LangeTroels

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Barry$

I recently set up a new website & went about building some back links manually. I submitted a few articles, created a squidoo lens, a youtube video with link, bookmarked the site & created some profile links.

But I decided to use a link building service & ordered 100 back links in the forum of blog comments.

I thought this would be fine but now I'm not so sure. Once my order was complete I was sent a list of 100 links to show where my back links had been placed.

So I checked them out & I'm a little worried about what I found.

The comments on the blog with my back link is shared with hundreds of other blog comments & back links.

I looked at one of these blogs & there looked to be over 1000 comments - Yes, one thousand!

Now the questions are...

Are these spammy blog comments known as black hat?

Will Google notice these links, consider them bad & reduce my rankings?

Do the links hold any value?

If the link building service keeps adding comments/links to these blogs will it make things worse?

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Barry

I wouldn't call it black hat.. Just bad SEO..
The Google spiders will read the blogs (if they are indexed) and probably consider them spammy and disregard the links.
You will not be punished in my opinion, because anybody could have created those links - for example a competitor with the purpose of decreasing your rankings!! Therefore Google can't punish the stuff you're mentioning.
I don't think the links hold any value.
I think you should stop using services like the one you describe.

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ashokpobox

14 years ago

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LangeTroels

14 years ago

Originally Posted by ashokpobox

First let me define backlink for those of you new to SEO. "Backlinks are links that are directed towards your website. The number of backlinks is an indication of the popularity or importance of that website." According to me, When search engines calculate the relevance of a site to a keyword, they consider the number of QUALITY inbound links to that site. So we should not be satisfied with merely getting inbound links, it is the quality of the inbound link that matters. Can I get a strong backlink? Unless you know what constitutes a strong backlink, there is no way you can get one. A strong backlink is the one that you obtain from PR 6 or 7 or more. For instance, Data Entry, Data Entry Jobs, Home Based Jobs, Work At Home Jobs, Online / Offline Data Entry, Internet Jobs, Online Paid Jobs is one such link. If only your site has a link from there, then you have the easy path to having a strong backlink. Yes your method comes under BLACK HAT

Exactly.. :-) That is why I don't think these spammy links have any effect at all on rankings..

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Mike Anthony

14 years ago

Its not so much that it will hurt you as that you probably blew some of your own dollars for what won't have much effect. Each page just has so much link juice to spare and divided up with a thousand other users the value of the links is minimal.

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IwebSeo

Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Barry$

Are these spammy blog comments known as black hat?

Will Google notice these links, consider them bad & reduce my rankings?

Do the links hold any value?

See if any page have 1000 of outbound links so google not catch all links google catch limited content and limited links and changes/increase these catch links ranking. so don't place your links details on that pages which have more than 50 OBL links.

blog comments method are very good methods but you need to place you links with comments on that page which have quality, some PR and minimum OBL links.

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BarryOnline

14 years ago

This is something I'll not be doing again.

I've got my on page SEO bang on but the back linking is time consuming. I'm building quite a few sites so I don't want a lot of time taken up building back links.

I do the following for back links on all my sites myself:

Bookmark
squidoo page
Hub page
Youtube video
Submit articles to top 5 directories

But I though it would be a good idea to have some bulk blog comments added to my back linking plan too.

I had no idea it was going to be mass spamming. I haven't lost any big money out of this, it was $10 for the 100 back links which works out around £6 for me.

As long as the back links haven't done any harm. I don't want any black hat tactics associated with my sites.

I would like to outsource my back linking but I need to find a good source. I don't want involved with any of this mass spamming.

I'd like to just get a few good high PR back links, I'm going to look into finding a place to get these.

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Jordan Kovats

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Barry$

This is something I'll not be doing again.

I've got my on page SEO bang on but the back linking is time consuming. I'm building quite a few sites so I don't want a lot of time taken up building back links.

I had no idea it was going to be mass spamming. I haven't lost any big money out of this, it was $10 for the 100 back links which works out around £6 for me.

As long as the back links haven't done any harm. I don't want any black hat tactics associated with my sites.

I would like to outsource my back linking but I need to find a good source. I don't want involved with any of this mass spamming.

I'd like to just get a few good high PR back links, I'm going to look into finding a place to get these.

With all due respect, did you think you were getting quality link building for $10? Who could afford to manually do this for $1 an hour? Any type of mass link building for a low price will be automated. May as well have donated the $10 to charity, it would have been put to better use.

Matt Cutts put out a video explaining blog comments some tiime ago. (I know...take it with a grain of salt) The more comments on the blog, the less PR or link juice or whatever flowing out of it to you. So, a high PR blog with a few comments, is better for you than the same high PR Blog with 100's of comments.

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BarryOnline

14 years ago

Originally Posted by theseoguys

With all due respect, did you think you were getting quality link building for $10? Who could afford to manually do this for $1 an hour? Any type of mass link building for a low price will be automated. May as well have donated the $10 to charity, it would have been put to better use.

Matt Cutts put out a video explaining blog comments some tiime ago. (I know...take it with a grain of salt) The more comments on the blog, the less PR or link juice or whatever flowing out of it to you. So, a high PR blog with a few comments, is better for you than the same high PR Blog with 100's of comments.

I wasn't sure what I was getting to be honest as I'm quite new to SEO, it's easy to make bad choices when you're learning about something.

I know how important back links are & I've heard people talk the volume of back links being important too.

When I came across the back linking service the offer looked very attractive. I wasn't aware it was software that was used until after the links were place when I read more into it.

A lesson learned though.

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jazbo

14 years ago

The problem is that you will struggle to find those elusive high PR (as in that actual link page PR). That's why it's mostly just as cost and time effective to just go for mass link building.

As with anything its gaining the knowledge to do it right and do it different, and you are not going to get either of those from forum answers.

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BillWynne

14 years ago

A link is a link is a link.

If you got Google slapped for a link in a bad neighborhood then wouldn't you post your competition's links in those bad neighborhoods? Quite unethical but very logical.

A link is a link and the more the better.

You just don't want to post too many links all at one time.

A new site should get 3-4 backlinks per day and as it ages you can get more and more per day.

Make it look natural...

That is the real important point to consider. Drip, drip, drip....

You only want to use services that will allow you to leak your links out on to the www.

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