Site was deindexed because of fast backlinks..can I get it back???

14 years ago

Originally Posted by jlady

It was an adsense site and it happened about 2 weeks after I did 30-50 backlinks per day for about 5 days and then stopped (through an article directory service I use).
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The site was set up in the classic xfactor style

First of all, "30-50 backlinks per day for about 5 days" is a tiny amount of backlinks. If you were talking 30,000 to 50,000 links in 5 days for a site in a highly competitive niche, maybe, but for such a minuscule number of links, no, doesn't happen.

Next, is your site actually deindexed? If you type site:yourdomainname.com into Google does it show no results?

What's more likely, if your site is truly deindexed, is that if you did a site with the standard MFA pattern that it got visually reviewed by the Google web spam team. A 30 second or less glance at the index page and it fitting a standard common MFA pattern and bang! it's gone.

Other possible problems might include a configuration problem on the host such as an improperly configured robots.txt or the like or excessive site downtime.

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D Baker

13 years ago

I don't think that 30-50 backlinks for a period of 5 days got your site de-indexed. That simply doesn't make sense especially if the site is 7 months old as you say.

All you can do is make some changes to the content, edit the posts and add some new content and than start building links. This might get you indexed again.

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AFI

13 years ago

It sounds like you just lost ranking not got de-indexed.

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Aira Bongco

13 years ago

Hi jlady,

Did you check if your site is still on Google like bgmacaw suggested. If not, then you may have just lost ranking.

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jlady

13 years ago

Yes I did do the site:www.domainname.org and it is not showing.

It is a typical MFA site but I followed all rules for the xfactor type site....it had 5 pages of content plus privacy/sitemap/contact us

EXCEPT

1 thing I didn't mention.....I added a prosperent sidebar link unit which shows 3 affiliate links with pictures on the sidebar.

I read adsense terms of service and they said other advertising is ok just can't look like adsense type ads, (same colors, layout) and the sidebar ads were different than adsense.

As to made for adsense type sites, true my content may not be the best but it definately wasn't spam, it was about the keywords for each page.

The adsense ads are still showing on the site and I never got an email from google to say anything was wrong.

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bgmacaw 13 years ago

Originally Posted by jlady

It is a typical MFA site

Well, unless there's some issue with your hosting or configuration, that's your problem.

Also, the Google Adsense team has absolutely nothing to do with deindexing. It sounds like you're confusing them with the web spam team, who're the ones who deindexed your site more than likely for being a typical MFA site.
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jlady

13 years ago

Both with and without www don't show up.

This has been a big lesson and all my other sites pretty much follow the MFA layout but really what is wrong with factual information on specific keywords?? Do the sites really have to be complex and sparkly shiny??

That is what an MFA site is...isn't it??

What kind of changes can I/should I make (to hopefully get this site back) or on my other sites.

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bgmacaw

13 years ago

Originally Posted by jlady

This has been a big lesson and all my other sites pretty much follow the MFA layout but really what is wrong with factual information on specific keywords?? Do the sites really have to be complex and sparkly shiny??

If this was a visual review deindex, it has zero to do with your content. It is completely based on the look of your index page. If it fits a MFA pattern that the reviewer has been trained to mark as MFA in 30 seconds or less, it's deindexed. As you can guess, the basic xfactor style site is most likely one of those that reviewers are told to deindex without a second thought. Others include some fairly standard affiliate feed formats.

It isn't that the site has to be complex or shiny. It can look like a simple FrontPage site circa 1998. It can be very plain. But it can't look like every other MFA site that everyone else who took a course in creating Adsense sites is using.

Originally Posted by jlady

What kind of changes can I/should I make (to hopefully get this site back) or on my other sites.

First, if the site you're talking about has really been manually deindexed, forget about it. It's gone, drop it and move on. You can determine this for sure by signing it up (but none of your others) for Webmaster Tools. You can ask for reinclusion but it is unlikely that it will be re-approved.

Next, change the look of your other sites to something other than the xfactor template. Just get it as far away from anything MFA looking or that's associated with any Adsense course as you can without killing your conversion rate or violating Adsense rules.

Lastly, don't panic and let it throw you into mental chaos. This kind of thing happens and it can seem rather arbitrary. Believe me, it pisses me off to see sites like thefind.com and bizrate.com get away with stuff that you or I would get deindexed for doing. But, that's life/business. Gripe about it, but stay in action creating new sites.

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jlady

13 years ago

I just find this very odd that this happened within 1 week of adding a lot of links to my site. This site has been up since April of this year.

If I start another site in this niche...can I use the same content that was on this site???

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jlady 13 years ago

I just checked webmaster (it was signed up a long time ago)

Here are some things that were found:

I looked at the robots.text and this shows:
User-agent: *
Disallow:

Does that mean anything?

I also found 1 crawl error in webmaster

404 (Not found) 1 pages Oct 4, 2010

Also in the HTML area of webmaster it says it found no content issues.
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- bgmacaw 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by jlady
  
  I looked at the robots.text and this shows:
  User-agent: *
  Disallow:
  
  See What happens when User-agent:* Disallow: shows on the robots.txt file on the directory? - Webmaster Central Help
  
  Unless the Disallow is followed by a / it will be OK.
  
  The info does show your site returning a 404 (Not Found) error during the crawl. Was your hosting account or the site down for a while?
  
  Based on this info, it doesn't appear that your site has been penalized, just that it couldn't be crawled for some reason and the 'bot assumed it was gone. That's good news since it means that your site can recover most likely. Just get some good quality links and, as long as nothing else is going on, you should be OK. I'd still recommend changing the theme to something more discrete though.
  
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maddydp

13 years ago

If one starts a new site, can they use the content from the deindexed site?. Thats a curious question. I too would like to know that. Anybody here experienced in such a matter?.

Originally Posted by jlady

I just find this very odd that this happened within 1 week of adding a lot of links to my site. This site has been up since April of this year.

If I start another site in this niche...can I use the same content that was on this site???

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paulgl 13 years ago

What do you mean is was an adsense site?
Google allows sites to display adsense, even if not indexed.
Google drops and takes sites all the time. Has nothing to
do with backlinks.

There are other ways to get traffic. Just don't break the TOS
of adsense.

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sandrax

13 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

This is going to sound crazy, lol.

I had a new site about a couple months ago.

I was ranking on the first page of Google for my keyword out of the box. My index page had a Google cache after a couple of days.

My site had a sidebar (on the right), I changed the text at the very top of the sidebar. When I changed that text, my site dropped off & didn't show anyplace out of the 1,000 results on Google for my index page keyword.

I went to my index page Google cache, copy & pasted the old text back onto my sites right sidebar.

No, joke my site went right back to the first page within 24-hours.

I let it sit for a week just to see If it would lose rank in the SERPs, it held that position & only got better once I really started building backlinks.

I just find it funny that I went back to the first page in the SERPs, after I did the Google cache copy & paste.

That site is now #2 for my keyword, has been for over a month...

Exact same thing happened to me ! Replaced the index with new info, and bang gone, now I put it back up, I bet I'll be back in a few days

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

This is going to sound crazy, lol.

I had a new site about a couple months ago.

I was ranking on the first page of Google for my keyword out of the box. My index page had a Google cache after a couple of days.

My site had a sidebar (on the right), I changed the text at the very top of the sidebar. When I changed that text, my site dropped off & didn't show anyplace out of the 1,000 results on Google for my index page keyword.

I went to my index page Google cache, copy & pasted the old text back onto my sites right sidebar.

No, joke my site went right back to the first page within 24-hours.

I let it sit for a week just to see If it would lose rank in the SERPs, it held that position & only got better once I really started building backlinks.

I just find it funny that I went back to the first page in the SERPs, after I did the Google cache copy & paste.

That site is now #2 for my keyword, has been for over a month...

Care to tell us more about your SEO Routine for doing so well in the SERP's?

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prodigaljoe

13 years ago

Google has been cracking down of MFA for a while. You really need to make sure you have enough valuable content. It does not need to be shinny and flashy but it does need to be of some value to the visitor.

I hate when I search around google for things but only run into little MFA sites and many other people hate it. If you really want to make a MFA site then make sure it has some good content otherwise myself, others and google do not want to see it.

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jlady

13 years ago

It has been about 3 weeks and that is the only site deindexed. Do you think I should move my other sites to different hosting services?? (I have 11 other sites).

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jlady 13 years ago

My host is hostgator.
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jlady

13 years ago

I just realized something....

All of my pages were optimized for a specific keyword with relevant content...

BUT

Each keyword was basically the same thing just said differently.

IE:

King size Couch
Extra Large Couch
Big Couch
Long Couch

This is how I understood xfactor method, but I always thought it was weird and didn't offer the user much if they surfed my site.

So should it be this type of variations instead:

inexpensive couch
good quality couch
designer couch
sofabed couch

These are just examples and not the niche that got deindexed or one I am in.

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jlady

13 years ago

I am really curious about this....does anyone have any feelings about having a different page a keyword that basically says the same thing??

Originally Posted by jlady

I just realized something....

All of my pages were optimized for a specific keyword with relevant content...

BUT

Each keyword was basically the same thing just said differently.

IE:

King size Couch
Extra Large Couch
Big Couch
Long Couch

This is how I understood xfactor method, but I always thought it was weird and didn't offer the user much if they surfed my site.

So should it be this type of variations instead:

inexpensive couch
good quality couch
designer couch
sofabed couch

These are just examples and not the niche that got deindexed or one I am in.

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Wesley Atkins

13 years ago

Originally Posted by jlady

I am really curious about this....does anyone have any feelings about having a different page a keyword that basically says the same thing??

All your problems are due to your mindset..

There are less and less shortcuts when it comes to SEO.

5 years ago you could get away with MFA sites where each page said basically the same thing with the only difference being targetting other keywords..

Do you really want to continue down the path of building junk and getting diminishing returns?

With that said, if your site has been de-indexed then its highly unlikely it will come back (unless the domain was relatively new).

if the site was delivering a lot of traffic, then considering re-building the site with 100% useful content then file a reinclusion request at Google is your best bet..

If not, just move on to building more sites.

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jlady

13 years ago

So if I want to rank for multiple words that mean the same thing...can I do them all on one post and just sprinkle them into the text?

Because I was told specifically not to do that, if you want to rank for a keyword..it should have its own post.

Originally Posted by Wesley Atkins

All your problems are due to your mindset..

There are less and less shortcuts when it comes to SEO.

5 years ago you could get away with MFA sites where each page said basically the same thing with the only difference being targetting other keywords..

Do you really want to continue down the path of building junk and getting diminishing returns?

With that said, if your site has been de-indexed then its highly unlikely it will come back (unless the domain was relatively new).

if the site was delivering a lot of traffic, then considering re-building the site with 100% useful content then file a reinclusion request at Google is your best bet..

If not, just move on to building more sites.

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bgmacaw 13 years ago

Originally Posted by jlady

Because I was told specifically not to do that, if you want to rank for a keyword..it should have its own post.

That is correct.

That doesn't mean that other posts/pages won't rank for the keyword, just that it's more likely to rank when you have the keyword in the URL, title tag and H1 tags.
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Wesley Atkins

13 years ago

Originally Posted by jlady

So if I want to rank for multiple words that mean the same thing...can I do them all on one post and just sprinkle them into the text?

Because I was told specifically not to do that, if you want to rank for a keyword..it should have its own post.

Be careful who you take SEO advice from...

You absolutely should put related keywords and synonms on the same post.

By doing this, Google will have a better understanding of the page of content and rank it accordingly for many keywords and not just one.

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bgmacaw 13 years ago

Just to make it clear, we're really talking about two different things. The keyword that's being emphasized on the page via the URL and tags and including related terms on the page.

As Wesley indicated you should include terms that make it clear to the relational analysis algorithms what your page is about. For example, if you had a page named 'bass' it could mean bass fishing or a bass guitar. Your text is what Google's algorithms will use to categorize your site as a fishing site or a guitar site. If it can't tell, you probably won't be ranked well for either.

Likewise, as I mentioned, if your page URL is something like mysite.com/mytrip.html it won't be as likely to rank for the term as something mysite.com/bass-fishing-trip.html. The same is true for your title tag.

Of course, external linking factors can help overcome these but why make it harder on yourself.
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13 years ago

Originally Posted by jlady

Because I was told specifically not to do that, if you want to rank for a keyword..it should have its own post.

Originally Posted by Wesley Atkins

Be careful who you take SEO advice from...

You absolutely should put related keywords and synonms on the same post.

By doing this, Google will have a better understanding of the page of content and rank it accordingly for many keywords and not just one.

I think we are talking about different things here.

(1) One one hand, it is always good to have related keywords on the same page. That will only help with ranking for your intended keyword.

(2) On the other, it is backlinking a given page for different related keywords, which I generally don't recommend (not talking about lesser included keywords like "how to get rid of foot fungus" and "get rid of foot fungus"). It has certainly been my experience, that you generally get best results if you only target one main keyword for a given page for my backlinking. If I really want to rank for "car speakers", I will get the best results in Google my specifically targeting "car speakers" with my backlinks. If I also go for "car audio", that will hurt my attempts for going for "car audio." Now, that isn't to say that you should have the word car audio on the page, I just wouldn't target my backlinking for that keyword.

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jlady

13 years ago

So would you make a second page for car audio? That is my dilemma..I have a few sites like this and if it is not the right thing to do, I am wondering if I should leave things as is or change the title and key words/content on those pages...or delete those pages and start new ones with the new content?

Because car speakers and car audio means the same thing and the reader is basically getting the same info just worded differently.

Originally Posted by Tom Goodwin

I think we are talking about different things here.

(1) One one hand, it is always good to have related keywords on the same page. That will only help with ranking for your intended keyword.

(2) On the other, it is backlinking a given page for different related keywords, which I generally don't recommend (not talking about lesser included keywords like "how to get rid of foot fungus" and "get rid of foot fungus"). It has certainly been my experience, that you generally get best results if you only target one main keyword for a given page for my backlinking. If I really want to rank for "car speakers", I will get the best results in Google my specifically targeting "car speakers" with my backlinks. If I also go for "car audio", that will hurt my attempts for going for "car audio." Now, that isn't to say that you should have the word car audio on the page, I just wouldn't target my backlinking for that keyword.

Tom

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jacksonlin

13 years ago

I agree, you don't have enough links to be de-indexed.

I threw around 30K links to one site over the space of 2 weeks for a brand new domain. Didn't get de-indexed, but got sandboxed (it's still there).

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ru83n

13 years ago

Great discussion here. I too have many MFA sites.. The thing is, you will be more secure if you will diversify you sites model and online income avenue.. Its too risky if all your sites are MFA model.

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F1SEO 13 years ago

Link building very quickly to a new website has never stayed with Google very well.

It hasn't probably been de-indexed, more of the 'sandbox' which means that it's a new website and it will get deliberately held back for a while.

We work with a policy of no major link building activity on a new website for at least 3 months. We will add about 5 links to get it indexed. In our experience a period of 'rest' goes down very well.

Getting out of the sandbox some people say means building high quality links, waiting it out, or changing the website to tidy it up and filing for re-incusion.
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jlady

13 years ago

Does the sandbox mean actually deindexing (nothing shows when you do site:keyword.com keywords use your keywords to GO direct to web pages and files.)

Also my site was about 7 months old when this happened.

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JoeMbulu

13 years ago

Originally Posted by jlady

My site was deindexed from google.

It was an adsense site and it happened about 2 weeks after I did 30-50 backlinks per day for about 5 days and then stopped (through an article directory service I use).

The site was about 7 months old and the main keyword was ranking number 1 but I had added these backlinks to 4 inner pages at the same time.

I am assuming it was deindexed because of the fast backlinks. The site was set up in the classic xfactor style and my other sites (all on same hosting service) were not affected.

So I am wondering if there is any hope to get it indexed again and what I should do???

If your pages are not showing up with the site: command, that is a serious problem. Make sure that it's not your site architecture that's causing indexing problems. It is normally for a younger site to sometimes lose rankings temporarily. You need to continue getting links consistently regardless. I recently had a site that dropped out of the top 100 for a few weeks then came back. Unless you're out right banned, 9 times out of 10, if you continue getting backlinks you will always come back. Google can be a roller coaster friend. You just have to have resolve and stay focused.

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mayorlan

13 years ago

Something like has happened to my site sometimes but what I guess would be the problem is a server down thing when it got crawled.I have to wait till 2 weeks again to get it crawled again and restored and even it came back on GOOGLE search result stronger than before.Just relax and build some more BL to get it crawled quickly and restored.

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entrepreneurjay

13 years ago

Google slapped it happened to me too recently do not know why they do it I guess that is why they call it getting Google slapped.

Or Google dance where your there one minute and gone the next. Then there, then gone.

I wouldn't worry about it too much just keep working like usual. It will turn around.

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Clyde

13 years ago

Did you add your site to Google Webmaster Tools when this happened?

Might have caused it.

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sandrax

13 years ago

Ok, it's back, just as I expected, wow, 2 days later and back in business

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pr678com

Banned 13 years ago

haha, good luck

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sandrax

13 years ago

I guess Google liked the other index page better. It is so strange that it will put you from spot "nowhere to be found" to spot #3 in 2 days which you where ranking for before. Google is mystical, hhhmmmm.

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