by scoopy
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i talked to three seo guru's an two will rank my .info to the top of Google. While one says don't believe that you can rank a .info only a .com will be good to top 1-3 positions.

So now i am wondering if there is a problem with it should i get a new domain .com ?

thanks

-scoopy
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  • Profile picture of the author musiclyons
    I agree about the .info. I have found that .info domain names only bring people looking for free information. They are not good for ranking either. I highly recommend you always use a .com domain when you can. They work the best. Hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    It's 100% pure nonsense - just an urban myth of internet marketing. The person who told you that simply doesn't know what he's talking about.

    Domain extensions don't affect SEO in any way.

    Matt Cutts from Google says so. He says it in writing and on video. He says it on Google's blog and on his own blog. He says it in the fields and in the hills, on the plains and on the beaches, and on the mountains and in the air, and he invites people to quote him on it.

    It's perfectly true that there are fewer .info domains ranking at the top of the SERP's than .coms (though there are still plenty!), but that's simply because many people wrongly imagine they don't rank as easily, so they don't use them, from choice, when they want to rank well. The result, obviously enough, is that there are fewer of them ranking well. This is the point that many people miss, and don't want to listen to.

    We have a full-length thread on this exact subject at least once a week. This was the last one: I think you'll find it a good read.
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    • Profile picture of the author bhuff85
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      It's 100% pure nonsense - just an urban myth of internet marketing. The person who told you that simply doesn't know what he's talking about.

      Domain extensions don't affect SEO in any way.

      Matt Cutts from Google says so. He says it in writing and on video. He says it on Google's blog and on his own blog. He says it in the fields and in the hills, on the plains and on the beaches, and on the mountains and in the air, and he invites people to quote him on it.

      It's perfectly true that there are fewer .info domains ranking at the top of the SERP's than .coms (though there are still plenty!), but that's simply because many people wrongly imagine they don't rank as easily, so they don't use them, from choice, when they want to rank well. The result, obviously enough, is that there are fewer of them ranking well. This is the point that many people miss, and don't want to listen to.

      We have a full-length thread on this exact subject at least once a week. This was the last one: I think you'll find it a good read.
      Agreed - I have one .info that is ranking for nearly 5 keywords, all in the top 3 with a #1 ranking for 2 keywords. And these are keywords with at least 1,000 EXACT searches each month.

      Do the work and optimize your site the right way. Give it time and fill your site with unique, relevant content, build quality backlinks and you'll start to see your site come up in the rankings (depending on competition, however).
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    • Profile picture of the author pluginy3
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      It's 100% pure nonsense - just an urban myth of internet marketing. The person who told you that simply doesn't know what he's talking about.

      Domain extensions don't affect SEO in any way.

      Matt Cutts from Google says so. He says it in writing and on video. He says it on Google's blog and on his own blog. He says it in the fields and in the hills, on the plains and on the beaches, and on the mountains and in the air, and he invites people to quote him on it.

      It's perfectly true that there are fewer .info domains ranking at the top of the SERP's than .coms (though there are still plenty!), but that's simply because many people wrongly imagine they don't rank as easily, so they don't use them, from choice, when they want to rank well. The result, obviously enough, is that there are fewer of them ranking well. This is the point that many people miss, and don't want to listen to.

      We have a full-length thread on this exact subject at least once a week. This was the last one: I think you'll find it a good read.
      Personally I would go with the .com, people will take you more seriously, when I come across websites that say .info, then I assume that I'm going to get free information there, and a .com domain comes across as more professional...and .com stands for company, whereas, info is information ;-)

      If google says jump, then you jump lol ( Not ) :-)
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      • Profile picture of the author howinfo
        I do really like .info extension as it is just perfect for a website that provides information, it looks nice and it is self explanatory pretty much globally. Also there as never been problem with ranking it or that .info as been harder to rank then some other extension. If you really think about it, why .info should be harder to rank? It wasn't harder for me and to many other people so if you apply your normal SEO technique it wont be any different to get it ranked than .com or . org. When you deciding what domain extension to go for then ranking is no issue at all.

        What you have to consider when choosing a domain extension is what sort of site you are planning to develop. For example, if it is ecommerce site then .com seems most appropriate or if you targeting people in UK then I would consider .co.uk or for informational website .info.

        There is a good website about .info domain - info.info
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  • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
    Originally Posted by scoopy View Post

    i talked to three seo guru's an two will rank my .info to the top of Google. While one says don't believe that you can rank a .info only a .com will be good to top 1-3 positions.

    So now i am wondering if there is a problem with it should i get a new domain .com ?

    thanks

    -scoopy
    Are these SEO guru's really guru's that you've spoken with? Are the first two offering to get your site to the top of Google?

    Can't see one being that much of a guru if they find it impossible to rank a .info and can only do it with .com's. Besides if it's an information site why wouldn't a .info be just as good?

    There have been quite a few discussions on this, search the forum for it you'll find a lot of interesting information.
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    • Profile picture of the author scoopy
      its the only .info that i could find with my exact keywords an i will be selling a product nothing officially big but will see a product as an affiliate.

      So it will rnak as well as a .info as a .com then?
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  • Profile picture of the author webcosmo
    many .info sites rank as good as .com.
    however .com have little edge over marketing, but thats pretty much it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Lin
    I have got 4 domains registered with extension .info all 4 rank on the first page of google between number 3 - 7 with the targeted keywords. All extensions are equal in the eye of google. There are a few ranked because few people use .info compare to .com

    It is a matter of back linking.

    PS: Don't believe the gurus until you try it yourself
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Here we go again .....

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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by scoopy View Post

        So it will rnak as well as a .info as a .com then?
        Yes. No difference. Domain extensions don't affect SEO.

        (There may, for some purposes, e.g. resale/flipping, be other advantages of using a .com, but SEO isn't one of them!).

        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        Here we go again .....
        It's a very pervasive and misguided myth, this one! There are even people who acknowledge everything Matt Cutts and Google say on the subject but still imagine that they're telling bare-faced lies left, right and center! :p
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        • Profile picture of the author kvnkane
          i laugh at the fact that an seo "guru" doesnt know what he is talking about. ive ranked .info .net .com .co.uk all of them take the same amount of work.
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          • Profile picture of the author simplemoneyinhand
            Ok,
            Not sure where to post my question but I felt like it was kind of related here. Im so confused. Im trying to begin promoting clickbank products. I bout the course MassMoneyMakers and they basically teach you keyword research and tell you to target a keyword under 50,000 and then buy domain for that keyword. So I did and this was 3 weeks ago.
            I have searched and searched for my domain but it is nowhere on google. And I have written articles, posted in forums, etc. Im trying to rank for the keyword, "to getting an ex back" but if I cant find my site, then what do I do? Can anyone help me? And what are the steps you reccommend to getting it on page 1.
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  • Profile picture of the author bertyounger
    It's just easier for people to type .com that .info. For trademarking and marketing ".com" makes more sense that's all.
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  • Profile picture of the author madison_avenue
    "travel to Rome" is very competive key phrase.

    Number 1 ranking is a .info domain.
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    • Profile picture of the author wtatlas
      One of the reasons that more .com extensions are seen on the first page of many search results is because there are more of them! As others have said before it is just as easy (or difficult) to rank a .info as it is any other domain name extension.

      I have yet to meet anyone who cares what the domain extension is if the website has the information he/she is looking for.
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  • Profile picture of the author cma01
    A .info will rank, it will just take a lot more work to get it there.

    I've started sets of sites at the same time and ran them through the same promotion strategies. The last set had .com's, .net's, .org's and one 1 .info.

    The .info took a week longer to get indexed and it took several months longer to start ranking on keywords.

    You can rank a .info. I was talking someone the other day that had a .info at #1 for a one word keyword. However, it will take a lot more work to get it there than if it were on a .com, .net, or .org.

    For myself, I'm now just buying .info's for satellite/feeder sites. I'm not buying .info's for sites I'm trying to rank unless I absolutely cannot find a decent domain on any of the other .tld's.
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    • Profile picture of the author scoopy
      Originally Posted by cma01 View Post

      A .info will rank, it will just take a lot more work to get it there.

      I've started sets of sites at the same time and ran them through the same promotion strategies. The last set had .com's, .net's, .org's and one 1 .info.

      The .info took a week longer to get indexed and it took several months longer to start ranking on keywords.

      You can rank a .info. I was talking someone the other day that had a .info at #1 for a one word keyword. However, it will take a lot more work to get it there than if it were on a .com, .net, or .org.

      For myself, I'm now just buying .info's for satellite/feeder sites. I'm not buying .info's for sites I'm trying to rank unless I absolutely cannot find a decent domain on any of the other .tld's.

      Everything was looking good until this came along... anyone can back this up?

      -scoopy
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by scoopy View Post

        Everything was looking good until this came along...
        That will always be the case, in these discussions, Scoopy: there'll be posts from people with different beliefs (for a variety of reasons).

        It has been so in every thread here in which the subject's been discussed in the past, and it will be the same in every thread in which it's discussed in the future, too.

        You can't achieve "certainty of outcome" for your question.

        All you can do is decide whom to trust, and believe, and whose own personal observations and experience you think might not be relevant to your own situation. It's just not realistic to pretend otherwise, I'm afraid. You can't even realistically assess it on a "poll basis" because the opinions you necessarily source are those of self-selected groups, not representative ones. No amount of further discussion can give you the certainty of outcome you seek.

        "Taking advice" is all about "deciding whom to trust."

        I got off to a bad start on this front, as on many others, because I initially tried to be guided by consensus views, not yet appreciating that in a field of endeavour with a low success-rate, they were quite likely to be misguided. I used to use .com domains only, for everything. It was a mistake. I now choose to use .info domains for "information sites". (I often buy the .com too, to make sure nobody else does, and redirect it to the .info I'm using, but this is, of course, another matter altogether).
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  • Profile picture of the author kkrueger
    I have found for online marketing, that .orgs, .coms and .nets and .infos all rank. It comes back to backlinks, how much traffic you drive, and the quality of your content.

    If you have an offline business, it is much better to use a .com because you are marketing to people face to face, and it is much easier for them to find a .com website than any other extension. "It's normal for a website to have a .com" LOL That has been my experience.
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  • Profile picture of the author Giani
    I have couple of .info sites and they are doing well.
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  • Profile picture of the author cma01
    scoopy,

    If you want to know, test it for yourself.

    Register a domain in each tld, target keyword phrases with similar competition, do the exact same things to promote them and see what the results are.

    That is what I did and I shared what the results were from that.

    Some things are subjective, others can be measured. This is one that is pretty easy to measure.
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  • Profile picture of the author sam770
    SEO wise, .info = .net = .com = all others...
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    OP, do a Google search for the keyword pagerank, look at the 2nd site listed in the SERP, it's a .info.


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    • Profile picture of the author scott g
      Dammit Yukon you beat me to the PUNCH! :p ... And the proof continues!




      CHEERS!
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by scott g View Post

        Dammit Yukon you beat me to the PUNCH! :p ... And the proof continues!
        Lol, well at least you backed me up with more proof!
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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      Yukon beat me to it with my favorite. Any variation of google pagerank,
      pagerank checker, etc. will give that dot info top billing. Now if google
      gives top billing to a dot info for one of their own home grown products,
      what on earth does that actually say about dot info and "trustworthiness"?
      And ability to rank? On google?

      I am going to pledge to never read another one of these threads again. Maybe.

      Bgmacaw has obviously pledged to keep her beak closed.

      After Alexa Smith posts, what more could there be to say?

      Paul
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

        Yukon beat me to it with my favorite. Any variation of google pagerank,
        pagerank checker, etc. will give that dot info top billing. Now if google
        gives top billing to a dot info for one of their own home grown products,
        what on earth does that actually say about dot info and "trustworthiness"?
        And ability to rank? On google?

        I am going to pledge to never read another one of these threads again. Maybe.

        Bgmacaw has obviously pledged to keep her beak closed.

        After Alexa Smith posts, what more could there be to say?

        Paul
        Notice how they have that SERP Title/Description tweaked for both keywords (pagerank, page rank). That's some good on-page seo.


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    Were these "gurus" standing outside the liquor store bumming smokes?
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    • Profile picture of the author scott g
      Originally Posted by TZ View Post

      Were these "gurus" standing outside the liquor store bumming smokes?
      WTF are you talking about TZ?!?

      That's a pretty good Adsense Screenshot in your sig... Looks almost as good as mine!!




      LMFAO!!!! :p
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  • Profile picture of the author designerjack
    Too much spam has been going on with the .info's ever since they came out. People testing and testing with them using black hat methods and it's going no where fast.
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    • Profile picture of the author howinfo
      Originally Posted by designerjack View Post

      Too much spam has been going on with the .info's ever since they came out. People testing and testing with them using black hat methods and it's going no where fast.
      You are right, whenever someone buys a domain name whatever the extension they should check the domain history of the particular domain as I know few people that bought some .com's and they could not get it indexed at all and it turned out that the spammers had run them to the ground before selling them on. And that can happened to any domain with any extension. But If it is a new reg then there is no problem.
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  • Profile picture of the author the_knight
    domain extensions don't matter, even with co.cc, you can rank
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