The Most Overlooked Way Of Getting Ranked In Google!

13 years ago

I would say, 'pfffft, tell us something new', except that my recent experiments with exact-match or similar-match domain names seemed to suggest that this method for ranking fast was pretty much dead. I had some sites that I thought would shoot to the top based on the domain name and they are nowhere to be seen, even though they have decent, unique content on too. There are definitely other more powerful factors at play, is all I am saying, but I am certainly interested to hear that this has worked for someone recently...

P.s. This is kind of one for the SEO forum really.

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Hamida Harland

13 years ago

Originally Posted by markowe

I would say, 'pfffft, tell us something new', except that my recent experiments with exact-match or similar-match domain names seemed to suggest that this method for ranking fast was pretty much dead.

Yes, years ago you were almost guaranteed to rank for the keyword in your domain name (as long as you had a halfway decent site), however I'm also finding that this particular method isn't as easy as it used to be.

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manilenio

13 years ago

Originally Posted by markowe

I would say, 'pfffft, tell us something new', except that my recent experiments with exact-match or similar-match domain names seemed to suggest that this method for ranking fast was pretty much dead. I had some sites that I thought would shoot to the top based on the domain name and they are nowhere to be seen, even though they have decent, unique content on too. There are definitely other more powerful factors at play, is all I am saying, but I am certainly interested to hear that this has worked for someone recently...

P.s. This is kind of one for the SEO forum really.

I was getting ready to buy a domain name with my preferred keyword in it, but now I read this... To a certain extent, it DOES help, doesn't it? I mean, at least for name-recall and branding, not necessarily for ranking high in Google, it makes sense to use your keyword in your domain name (provided you can still get one), doesn't it? On a related note, is it better to use hyphens or it doesn't matter (going back to SEO)? Say for example:

www(dot)my-business-idea(dot)com VS www(dot)mybusinessidea(dot)com

Which one will Google "see" better, assuming I've done the same amount of onsite and offsite optimizations?

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ExRat

13 years ago

Hi Jayneel D,

The Most Overlooked Way Of Getting Ranked In Google!

Are you sure about that?

recently I just realized the power of this method.

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Your post resembles your sig/WSO.

Overall summary - fail.

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Andyhenry 13 years ago

Originally Posted by ExRat

Your post resembles your sig/WSO.

Thanks for that..... It seems to be one of those days today.
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Jay D

13 years ago

Originally Posted by ExRat

Hi Jayneel D,

Are you sure about that?

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Your post resembles your sig/WSO.

Overall summary - fail.

Yes I am sure about that. I just bought a domain from Godaddy auctions and it DID rank. Most people I come across think that when you get a domain you need to build loads of backlinks to it before it can rank...even if it has the keywords in it.

My post resembles my Sig/WSO is because SEO is what I do. Most of the posts or replies I make are about SEO and so are all my WSO's. If I wanted to promote my WSO I would have bumped it...like I always do.

I don't know what's with people these days. Just trying to share something that worked for me.

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Jay D

13 years ago

Originally Posted by sephim

I wouldn't worry about this to much. Content is still King with that being said if you can get a Keyword rich Domain more power to you. Every little bit helps.

True that. But this still is a powerful factor.

Originally Posted by markowe

I would say, 'pfffft, tell us something new', except that my recent experiments with exact-match or similar-match domain names seemed to suggest that this method for ranking fast was pretty much dead. I had some sites that I thought would shoot to the top based on the domain name and they are nowhere to be seen, even though they have decent, unique content on too. There are definitely other more powerful factors at play, is all I am saying, but I am certainly interested to hear that this has worked for someone recently...

P.s. This is kind of one for the SEO forum really.

That's what I thought. I was looking at people always saying that that doesn't work anymore so I thought I would give it a shot...I actually bought three domains and 1 of them, like I said ranked in about 3 weeks.

There is one thing though, the domain that did rank was bought through godaddy auctions and was about a year old.

Cheers..

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markowe

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Jayneel D

I actually bought three domains and 1 of them, like I said ranked in about 3 weeks.

There is one thing though, the domain that did rank was bought through godaddy auctions and was about a year old.

Cheers..

Yeah, I would say my success rate of getting exact or similar-match keywords to rank is no better than 3 to 1 with brand new domains. Probably less. I find I am having to do lots of backlinking and work more on the content. Not a bad thing, just observing.

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Andyhenry

13 years ago

If you need to worry about whether your keywords are in your domain - you've probably got bigger problems to worry about (i.e you're not marketing your business properly if you need the domain name to get traffic)

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Hamida Harland

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Andyhenry

If you need to worry about whether your keywords are in your domain - you've probably got bigger problems to worry about (i.e you're not marketing your business properly if you need the domain name to get traffic)

I'm sure nobody would be silly enough to rely on the domain alone to get traffic to their website. It takes a bit more than that to be successful in niche marketing.

For my larger authority sites I do use generic names, but for my smaller niche sites having a keyword rich domain comes in useful (not necessary, but it definitely helps).

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drbillphd

13 years ago

Thanks Jayneel, I'm sure hoping so. :-)

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Meharis

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Jayneel D

Hey warriors!

I know a lot of you may already know this but I thought of sharing this because recently I just realized the power of this method.

So what is it??

KEYWORD RICH DOMAIN NAMES!!

I have a niche site which is about a year old and it ranked (still does) pretty well for a lot of keywords except one of the main keyword which is pretty competitive...

So I decided to do this experiment and I bought another domain which had the main keyword in it (the keyword the other site couldn't rank for). I threw up a quick wordpress blog on it and added some unique content on it. Then slowly I started building links to it through submission directories etc.

And guess what? In 3 weeks it's ranking 4th for that keyword!

Now I know most of you knew this but just a reminder try this...it works wonders!

I'll take a wild guess. If someone didn't know about what you're mentioning,
well, that person have been living in a barrel and, with the lid on...
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sephim

13 years ago

I wouldn't worry about this to much. Content is still King with that being said if you can get a Keyword rich Domain more power to you. Every little bit helps.

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pethanks

13 years ago

Well, thank you for this tips. Marketers should read this.

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thebitbotdotcom

13 years ago

You know...that just hasn't been my experience. That was my experience about 4-5 years ago, but now, I am not having much success with it. I am however having success with domains that contain absolutely no keywords in them, but are solid in the backlinks area...

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markowe

13 years ago

I just thought the post was funny because of this "most overlooked" part - are you kidding!? This method has been saturated to death! Just TRY and find an unregistered EMD for ANY product niche you can think of..!

In answer to manilenio I would say that getting an EMD used to be a guarantee of getting on the first page straight out of the gate - no, not something you should rely on for your business (like the soon-to-probably-get-slapped Xfactor-Clickbump methods), but a nice little boost - but now it's just a minor factor I would say (at least for Google - still works for Bing).

If you have long-term goals in mind it might be better to go for a more brandable domain name - if you are serious you will do well regardless of the keywords in your domain name, and generic keyword domains look pretty spammy...

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Ed H

13 years ago

I've almost completely given up on EMDs for any value. I don't think they help much any more at all....

The one anomaly here I've seen is this:

Last week on a TV show I heard a funny, but odd / unusual phrase used. Later I checked to see if that was available as an EMD , and it was (.com). I threw up a site, only used the term once on-page, and ran an autoblog to pull in some content (videos & pics). Pinged the site using Index Shotgun.

I did two backlinks from sites that are based on the TV show (one wiki page, on forum post)

Next morning the site was in the #1 spot for the term. This week the site dominates page 1 (spots 1-8 are my site). The term has about 1.1MM matches as a natural search (exact, and ALLIn* searches are pretty low).

I wish it was always this easy!!

This is the only thing that is making me reconsider the value of EMDs. I still think this was a lucky fluke. Too bad this is not a big money site :-(

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aygabtu 13 years ago

Can't we just all stick to good content and something we are passionate about? It seems like a lot of people act like the federal government. Need more money? Just print more, even though the value keeps going down.

The more people that create sites just to make a few bucks hurts themselves and everyone else by over saturating the market.
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windfinder

13 years ago

I've started two .se-sites recently and the EMD was way up in the results for a couple of weeks, but it fell as a rock after that. It honestly has really crappy content. It was an experiment using the name of a new reality TV show for the domain name.

The other one has usable, but not stellar, content. It started out low, but keep on rising in the search results.

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