Adsense Sites - Why Not Target Huge CPC?! More Opportunity for $$ - Less Sites. What Do You Think?!

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I made a post yesterday that actually got MY brain churning...! That's a good thing.

I never really questioned, or care to question, why everyone basically followed the Xfactor/Clickbump Micro Niche Adsense method... You know the typical Adsense sense... A lame-o plain jane site with nothing but an Ad to click on that, IMO, never helped the visitor in the first place.

Exact match 1000-5000 Exact results atleast one dollar CPC...

Why?! There's so much more out there... Work a little harder to get an "Adsense" site in the top 3 on Google for a Long-Tail keyword (moderate competition) that gets 100+/- Exact Monthly Local Searches. Only instead of $.96/click you could very easily get $50+ per click.

If you got 3 clicks a month, I'd say that you've got a pretty damn successful and lucrative website! Would you disagree?!

I was doing some searches using the Google Adwords Keyword Tool sorting by avg. CPC.

You'd be AMAZED at how many long-tail keywords there are out there that get maybe 110 searches/month and pay on an avg. CPC of $75+. Hell... 30 monthly searches at $150?!?

I may just be beating a dead bear or bush or whatever, or could be way off base here.... But I thought the results I was finding were pretty intriguing and wanted to share with the forum that is so dear to my heart!!!

Lemme know what you think...

I've attached 13 Excel spreadsheets (they're edited and easy to read) and ordered by avg. CPC. Below is the keyword the search was performed on and the # of returned results/keywords ordered by Avg. CPC.

Injury - 800
Insurance - 800
Claim - 718
Domain - 800
Credit - 800
Loan - 800
Equity - 759
Accident - 596
Broker - 349
Cash - 457
Bank - 721
Fraud - 800
Program - 542

Like I said these are just some numbers I pulled that got me interested. There's obviously tons more out there... I just wanted share my thoughts on Adsense sites/strategies.

CHEERS!


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WF won't let me upload the .xls Files, so I uploaded them to my hosting.


Injury_800.xls
Insurance_800
.xls
Claim_718.xls
Domain_800.xls
Credit_800.xls
Loan_800.xls
Equity_759.xls
Accident_596.xls
Broker_349.xls
Cash_457.xls
Bank_721.xls
Fraud_800.xls
Program_542.xls
#adsense #cpc #huge #opportunity #sites #target
  • Profile picture of the author Biggy Fat
    Too bad the competition for those is ridiculously high.
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by Biggy Fat View Post

      Too bad the competition for those is ridiculously high.
      Unless you go in the backdoor (that's what she said, lol) with long-tail keywords.

      Build a site that get's traffic, lot's of traffic related to your root keyword in a very long-tail keyword way.

      Once they are are your site you can drive traffic a lot easier to your high dollar keyword pages, rather than trying to rank those high dollar pages in the SERPs.

      Here is the flow:

      1) Multiple high traffic pages with easy to rank for keywords.

      2) Once the traffic lands on your traffic page move them to the higher $$ Adsense keyword pages. Use lots of internal links all pointing to the high $$ pages.

      Most of my sites get an average around 6-7 page views per unique traffic, so I know they look around the sites for other content.

      I havn't tested this yet, I wonder what would happen If I built a lot of pages without Adsense just for ranking in the SERPs (easy traffic), don't put Adsense on the traffic pages.

      Then every single traffic page has lots of internal links all pointing to the higher $$ Adsense keyword/pages, these pages would have Adsense on them.

      The idea is don't let the traffic trickle out the low paying pages that gather easier traffic in the SERPs, & move them to better paying pages.

      I know this sounds backwards, but why let the traffic leave on lower paying Adsense keyword pages.

      Anyone ever test that theory?
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    • Profile picture of the author noodle2005
      Originally Posted by Biggy Fat View Post

      Too bad the competition for those is ridiculously high.
      I have been having some success lately with high competition words that have estimated high CPC. I have been ranking related keywords with low searches / estimated CPC then when they are on my site I redirect them to the higher CPC pages.

      I have also done the same by submitting easier to rank for keywords to EZA with the resource box linking straight to my high CPC pages.

      Anyone ever test that theory?
      Yes me

      Both methods work

      I also posted about it in this thread

      http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...free-here.html
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by noodle2005 View Post

        I have been having some success lately with high competition words that have estimated high CPC. I have been ranking related keywords with low searches / estimated CPC then when they are on my site I redirect them to the higher CPC pages.

        I have also done the same by submitting easier to rank for keywords to EZA with the resource box linking straight to my high CPC pages.



        Yes me

        Both methods work
        Do you 302 redirect or internal links?
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        • Profile picture of the author noodle2005
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          Do you 302 redirect or internal links?
          Just internal links, never thought about the 302 redirect
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          • Profile picture of the author yukon
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            Originally Posted by noodle2005 View Post

            Just internal links, never thought about the 302 redirect
            That might be against Adsense TOS?

            If the traffic page (302) doesn't include Adsense then I don't see how it could be a problem.

            I havn't researched the Adsense TOS on the subject so I'm not sure...
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  • Profile picture of the author terryd
    Generally the competition for those niches is very, very competitive that's why it is suggested to target the niches with easier competition.

    I could be wrong but I'm not sure a lot of those advertisers would also use the content network, especially with those PPC prices.
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    • Profile picture of the author scott g
      Originally Posted by Biggy Fat View Post

      Too bad the competition for those is ridiculously high.
      Originally Posted by terryd View Post

      Generally the competition for those niches is very, very competitive that's why it is suggested to target the niches with easier competition.

      I could be wrong but I'm not sure a lot of those advertisers would also use the content network, especially with those PPC prices.

      You are right... Competition is higher, but so is the reward. I wouldn't suggest this for someone starting out. The reason I mention this is b/c I have a couple of sites that if I added Adsense to the CPC's would be nuts through the roof. Took some hard work and effort to be in a good spot where I am now getting a lot of traffic (about 2 months).

      I'm not a guru or anything special... Just figured out what works for me and stuck to it. A lot of trial and error that's for sure.

      I've picked out the next keyword I'm going to shoot to rank for.... Insane competition... But I think I can crack the top 10 for that term in two, maybe three, months. After I create content I'll create the domain/directory I'm going to record the events that follow and maybe post my own case study/ranking thread like everyone else does (and like I've always wanted to). Be pretty sweet if I crack the top 10... UBER competitive niche... I have faith in myself though LOL! :p

      Like I said I just wanted to post this b/c I've never seen anyone talk about Adsense sites and High CPC in the same thread!!! LOL!
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      • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
        Originally Posted by scott g View Post

        You are right... Competition is higher, but so is the reward. I wouldn't suggest this for someone starting out. The reason I mention this is b/c I have a couple of sites that if I added Adsense to the CPC's would be nuts through the roof. Took some hard work and effort to be in a good spot where I am now getting a lot of traffic (about 2 months).

        I'm not a guru or anything special... Just figured out what works for me and stuck to it. A lot of trial and error that's for sure.

        I've picked out the next keyword I'm going to shoot to rank for.... Insane competition... But I think I can crack the top 10 for that term in two, maybe three, months. After I create content I'll create the domain/directory I'm going to record the events that follow and maybe post my own case study/ranking thread like everyone else does (and like I've always wanted to). Be pretty sweet if I crack the top 10... UBER competitive niche... I have faith in myself though LOL! :p

        Like I said I just wanted to post this b/c I've never seen anyone talk about Adsense sites and High CPC in the same thread!!! LOL!

        Ive got some $35+ avg cpc terms im on page one for - some others are higher vol search and avg cpc @ $5-7 ....

        here's the new found suprise after tossing a ton of linking resources [ $$$ ] and domains and content writing at these to get in a position to earn clicks ...

        Those high dollar words u see in adwords tool - aint for Content Network - the numbers arent even close ... friggin $.10 .... $.07 $.37 clicks

        im going in hte other direction with a few niches as a test next ...

        avg cpc of $.10 - $.65 - mucho exact traffic #'s and easy comp .... easy like sunday morning competition ....
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  • Profile picture of the author TZ
    Couple of our niches are these high-yield subjects - injury and insurance.

    The very highest click we ever made was $40 and change. Normally they average between $1.00 to $1.50 a click. All of these Adsense keyword payout lists are total bunk.

    The relative comparison is the only reality on yield.

    About once a week these niches will garnish the odd $10.00 click, but they also have low yield days and we see some clicks only making 50 cents.

    Your question is valid though....why not make more money if you can, BUT our biggest concern is market vectors. The seasonal reality is that even if you have some good traffic from high-yield keywords, it's STILL bound to the niche's seasonal vector.

    That is why we still build and manage domains on lower yield markets (like school supplies). We want to take advantage of these vectors to counter-balance the seasonal effect.
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  • Profile picture of the author TZ
    Yeah - basically the short answer is that you want to take advantage of both.

    Here is a tip. Walk through your office supply store and take notes on the most expensive products. There is allot of money is stationary traffic too. Diddly for competition too......and sometimes we see the odd 1 dollar click or more depending the time of year.
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  • Profile picture of the author noodle2005
    Just to be clear as the way I have worded my above post may be confusing.

    I rank my low traffic / low cpc pages, when they click through to my site they land on a page related to my niche which doesnt have adsense on. Then, through links on that page, I hope they click on those links which will redirect them to my high CPC pages.

    Sorry for any confusion
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    • Profile picture of the author scott g
      I'm glad to see I got some Warriors to post their experiences with Adsense and targeting terms that SUPPOSEDLY have pretty high CPC. I was more-so curious, to be honest with you, because it seems like the only stuff I read about in this forum, in regards to Adsense, is the Xfactor Micro Niche sites. You know... the "target keywords with at least $1 CPC and very low competition and get an EMD."

      If you're just starting out, that's a good way to learn, but as far as learning how to rank sites, perfect your On- and Off-Site Search Engine Optimization... You haven't done squat... Which is what will help you in the long run...

      This is just my opinion I'm not trying to pick a fight with someone who has 1000 Xfactor sites and is doing good. You're just not going to retire of those sites...

      I'm rambling now. I've got a sh8t ton on my mind...

      CHEERS!
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