Adsense site. Low traffic but high CPC

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I'm researching on Google Adwords some markets with low traffic (600-4500 global) but high CPC ($6-$34).

I'm thinking about building adsense sites on these keywords.

Has anyone had success with this approach?
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  • Profile picture of the author paulgl
    If you don't rely on google for all traffic, your traffic is limitless
    and can be very targeted. But use the CPC as a guide. A very
    rough guide. Remember you get a little more than half the
    cost and there are many factors that determine cpc, not
    just niche.

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  • Profile picture of the author dburk
    Originally Posted by foxanthony View Post

    I'm researching on Google Adwords some markets with low traffic (600-4500 global) but high CPC ($6-$34).

    I'm thinking about building adsense sites on these keywords.

    Has anyone had success with this approach?
    Hi foxanthony,

    I think so many take that approach that it may actually be harder to make money due to intense competition over a small amount of traffic.

    Also keep in mind the CPC numbers you are looking at are for the search network, not the content network. Content network CPCs tend to be lower and in some cases extremely lower.

    AdWords is an auction platform that allows supply and demand to set the prices. If there is oversupply, due to large numbers of publishers delivering content, then your AdSense CPC will be substantially lower than Search network CPCs. Bear that in mind and you can figure out which keywords are likely to be more lucrative.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Grant
    Personally, I like more higher volume keywords with a local CPC. As Burk mentioned, there's often easier competition.

    I typically do 10k exact or more with CPC of $2 or more.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Most guys I see on forums target their keywords in the wrong way (IMO).

    This is how I do it...

    1) First thing you need is traffic, without traffic nothing else matters.

    If your wanting traffic from Google or any other search engine you need easy traffic.

    Do the research for the traffic (the more traffic the better).

    Get your Index page ranking for the free easy traffic (keywords).

    Set the Index page post to only show a snippet, I only use an image on the Index page. Tease the traffic & get them to follow through to the money pages.



    2) Build your internal pages for the higher dollar Adsense keywords.

    Move your traffic from the Index page to the high dollar internal pages.

    [note]

    Don't add Adsense to the Index page & no external links on the Index page. Put all your Adsense on the internal pages, any external links at the bottom of the page below the fold.

    If you do the above you'll get traffic, next step is to funnel them to the internal Adsense page.

    This saves the headache of trying to rank for very competitive SERPs, & focus on the easy traffic.

    Example, If my money keyword is "auto insurance", build an Index page on the keyword "best sports car" (just an example) assuming "best sports car" gets a lot of hits with low competition in the SERPs. Do the research.

    Then send that Index page traffic to a blog post about the "Best Auto Insurance Rates for 2011", follow the Adsense TOS & load the page up with Ad blocks.

    You can step up the traffic with Category pages just like the Index page above, rank each category page for a new keyword (no external links, no Adsense) then move the traffic to the money page.

    If you have to pick a fight always go after the little guy (SERP competition).
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    • Profile picture of the author cisdmsl1
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Most guys I see on forums target their keywords in the wrong way (IMO).

      This is how I do it...

      1) First thing you need is traffic, without traffic nothing else matters.

      If your wanting traffic from Google or any other search engine you need easy traffic.

      Do the research for the traffic (the more traffic the better).

      Get your Index page ranking for the free easy traffic (keywords).

      Set the Index page post to only show a snippet, I only use an image on the Index page. Tease the traffic & get them to follow through to the money pages.



      2) Build your internal pages for the higher dollar Adsense keywords.

      Move your traffic from the Index page to the high dollar internal pages.

      [note]

      Don't add Adsense to the Index page & no external links on the Index page. Put all your Adsense on the internal pages, any external links at the bottom of the page below the fold.

      If you do the above you'll get traffic, next step is to funnel them to the internal Adsense page.

      This saves the headache of trying to rank for very competitive SERPs, & focus on the easy traffic.

      Example, If my money keyword is "auto insurance", build an Index page on the keyword "best sports car" (just an example) assuming "best sports car" gets a lot of hits with low competition in the SERPs. Do the research.

      Then send that Index page traffic to a blog post about the "Best Auto Insurance Rates for 2011", follow the Adsense TOS & load the page up with Ad blocks.

      You can step up the traffic with Category pages just like the Index page above, rank each category page for a new keyword (no external links, no Adsense) then move the traffic to the money page.

      If you have to pick a fight always go after the little guy (SERP competition).
      This is great information. I am working on setting up several Adsense sites right now and I am going to incorporate the knowledge I got from your post into the sites.

      I can see how this will increase my CTR and even more importantly get people to click on ads with a much higher CPC.
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      • Profile picture of the author cobwab
        cpc no longer in adsense tool

        Gonzo!
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    • Profile picture of the author foxanthony
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Most guys I see on forums target their keywords in the wrong way (IMO).

      This is how I do it...
      Wow! You laid out the details of what was just a vague idea in my mind. I wasn't thinking about traffic, just keywords that had a central theme. You validated what I was thinking and gave it a logical procedure.

      This is huge, thank you.
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by foxanthony View Post

        Wow! You laid out the details of what was just a vague idea in my mind. I wasn't thinking about traffic, just keywords that had a central theme. You validated what I was thinking and gave it a logical procedure.

        This is huge, thank you.
        You still want your traffic keywords + money keywords to be related.

        In my example above, the majority of people that own a car also need auto insurance.

        The auto insurance niche is very competitive, doesn't matter as far as Adsense goes. If your page is #1 in Google SERPs for the money keyword, or If that same page is #999 in Google SERPs, Adsense still pays the same $$ on your Adsense page for that keyword.

        I see guys settle for less because they think they have to rank the money page, instead of going after an easier traffic sub-niche, & then move the traffic to a higher paying keyword page on their site.

        Just keep the traffic page dirt simple, the ony goal of that page is to collect traffic, don't let them leave with external links (including Adsense). All links on the traffic page should be pointing to a money page.

        I'm sure this (not having Adsense on the Index page) scares a lot of people, thinking I'm going to lose an Adsense click on the index page.

        I look at it like this, I would rather have a single $3 click (money keyword) on the money page, than $1 (20 x $0.05) click on the index page (traffic keyword).
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        • Profile picture of the author cobwab
          cpc back in
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        • Profile picture of the author millardsc
          Yukon - Thanks for posting your advice on this thread and it makes perfect sense also.
          I will defintely try this when I setup any adsense sites in the future. This really may help me a lot.

          Millard
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          • Profile picture of the author ddurick
            Thanks yukon! I have never used anchor text to a money page. Hummmm. I played with placement of ads in the article for adsense or my Amazon on the right or left hand side. So far, there doesn't seem to be a lot of BBQ Sauce Recipe visitors interested in grills, buying bbq sauce, or I even offered an ebook on grilling recipes for free and not a single person went for it. i.e. not at least if they had to give me their email address.

            I'll play with that anchor text idea and see. I still think I'm missing something big here somehow, just not sure what it is.
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  • Profile picture of the author cisdmsl1
    Yea, I noticed that the other day. I guess I am just a creature of habit.
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  • Profile picture of the author Giani
    Good suggestions.

    I have an Adsense website with high CTR and CPC. It is also highly competitive market, travel industry and therefore, less traffic everyday. Any suggestion how do I drive traffic to the website. Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author ddurick
    Great thread! I've sorta done both. My first website was low CPC but lots of volume. The website is now at like 150-200 unique visits a day. Unfortunately I'm having problems monetizing that traffic. The only thing I seem to be getting out of it is about $2 a day in adsense revenue. This is why I started building some other sites with smaller amounts of traffic but with great $6-$15 cpc. Too soon to see how well they'll do.

    Any suggestions from anyone on monetizing that low cpc site? It's a BBQ Sauce recipe site and seems everyone loves my content and it's growing but no one wants to buy anything. Heck, I can't even get signups for a newsletter, or coupons, recently tried a free ecookbook. I'm sure there's something that will work but I seem to be stumped.:confused:
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by ddurick View Post

      Great thread! I've sorta done both. My first website was low CPC but lots of volume. The website is now at like 150-200 unique visits a day. Unfortunately I'm having problems monetizing that traffic. The only thing I seem to be getting out of it is about $2 a day in adsense revenue. This is why I started building some other sites with smaller amounts of traffic but with great $6-$15 cpc. Too soon to see how well they'll do.

      Any suggestions from anyone on monetizing that low cpc site? It's a BBQ Sauce recipe site and seems everyone loves my content and it's growing but no one wants to buy anything. Heck, I can't even get signups for a newsletter, or coupons, recently tried a free ecookbook. I'm sure there's something that will work but I seem to be stumped.:confused:
      Have you tested Amazon Aff. on that recipe site?

      I would test a few text-links with anchor text inside the recipe instructions.

      Example, say your BBQ recipe calls for a grill, inside the recipe use anchor text like this.


      One of the things that makes grilling and grill recipes so appealing for the cook is...

      Make the above link point to your own Amazon Aff. url.

      I see you already have an Astore, I think text-links get a better CTR.
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  • Profile picture of the author prismkuet
    Originally Posted by foxanthony View Post

    I'm researching on Google Adwords some markets with low traffic (600-4500 global) but high CPC ($6-$34).

    I'm thinking about building adsense sites on these keywords.

    Has anyone had success with this approach?
    Some markets have low traffic and high cpc but these are not so available though. I prefer those keyword which have likely high traffic although those are of lower cpc value.
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  • Profile picture of the author MaryDermot
    I don't understand Google Adwords keyword tool for one experiment is:

    "free casino games online" has 165000 searches per month but I'm getting just around 10 searches. I don't understand why.
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  • Profile picture of the author jotuga
    how do i put the keywords on the webiste if my website its a free ads website, and most post are made by other people.
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    • Profile picture of the author jotuga
      thanks all
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  • Profile picture of the author lutherlars
    Yukon:
    What would you recommend if certain big money pages are actually child pages inside silos, whose landing pages are linked to an index page?
    Example, I have a Labrador Retriever Health landing page with lots of potential high money pages as child pages inside that silo. Would I be better off making mini silos for those child pages as I take it that it would not be good to link to those child pages directly from my index page. THX.
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  • Profile picture of the author webdesignnomad
    Hey Anthony,
    Personally I have had a lot of success with Google Adsense websites.
    Based on those stats, you might do OK, depending on how competitive the keyword payouts are. Even if you get the very rare click, it will be a lot of money! That's the sort of site I have had the most success with. Quality over quantity! Also, you want to be very careful with Google AdSense, they are known to ban people RIGHT before payout, with no explanation, so make sure your website is consistent with all the criteria they may try and screw you on. When you have high payout keywords actually getting traffic, Google gets suspicious as to the legitimacy of the sources of the clicks. It's hard to trust.
    I have since moved on to Affiliate Marketing with YouTube videos, which has earned me great success. I'm now making double what I did with AdSense, often above $450 a day, just by promoting products with free videos! If you want to learn how to do this, I have a link in my signature you will be very interested in, I've written a comprehensive eBook instructional guide, FREE to all Warriors!

    I wish you the best of luck with your quest for making money online
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