Anyone should be able to do this and make $100+/day.

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To prove a simple point (and to make some easy extra money for myself), I decided get in to the content websites monetized by adsense business. I chose this aspect of IM because it is a really simple, fundamental marketing method that anyone can work on and succeed with. All of the websites are just simple pages with minimal content along with some adsense ads. If you were to create them yourself, it would probably take you no longer than an hour to do each one.

The point that I am trying to prove with this is that anyone can make money online without having to do any of the work (all of the actual work can be outsourced).

I did absolutely none of the required work myself, the websites were created by various workers (who also did the keyword research) and all the SEO work was done by a small SEO team. All I did was buy the domains/hosting and provide my adsense codes to the people creating the websites.

It has taken a few months of waiting for the websites to rank well but I have finally hit the $100/day mark with adsense and it continues to grow as time goes on!



This money is all made on total autopilot, I have not touched any of the websites at all since they were created

Hopefully this inspires some of you who are feeling like it is impossible to make money online. Don't let a lack of knowledge stop you, if you don't know how to do something and don't want to spend the time to learn how to do it, pay someone else to do it for you! You don't need any experience to do what I have done here, all you need is a bit of money to start off with to pay your workers.

P.S. Please don't PM or ask me about the details of the websites (like how the keywords were picked) because I honestly have no idea! I would assume they would have used a keyword tool like Market Samurai but I am not sure. The workers that I hired did all of that work for me and I just trusted that they would do a good job so I didn't ask them for the details
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  • Profile picture of the author Joe Mobley
    Andrew,

    Interesting.

    Could I ask how many web sites did (does) it take to hit the $100 a day mark?

    Thanks.

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    • Profile picture of the author gotti3636
      Originally Posted by Joe Mobley View Post

      Andrew,

      Interesting.

      Could I ask how many web sites did (does) it take to hit the $100 a day mark?

      Thanks.

      Joe Mobley
      Hey Joe, it is hard to say exactly since each of the websites perform differently (some make a lot more than others) but in my case, I currently have 40 websites that make a combined $100/day. Some of them are still ranking so by the time they are all finished it should be up at around $150/day from those 40 websites That averages out to be just under $4/day from each website.
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      • Profile picture of the author WillR
        Originally Posted by gotti3636 View Post

        Hey Joe, it is hard to say exactly since each of the websites perform differently (some make a lot more than others) but in my case, I currently have 40 websites that make a combined $100/day. Some of them are still ranking so by the time they are all finished it should be up at around $150/day from those 40 websites That averages out to be just under $4/day from each website.
        I would be more interested to know the traffic it is taking to make the $100/day rather than the number of websites?
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        • Profile picture of the author gotti3636
          Originally Posted by WillR View Post

          I would be more interested to know the traffic it is taking to make the $100/day rather than the number of websites?
          Hey Will,

          Average CTR is around 8% and average CPC is around $1.40 I'll let you do the math on that one :p
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          • Profile picture of the author TZ
            Originally Posted by gotti3636 View Post

            Hey Will,

            Average CTR is around 8% and average CPC is around $1.40 I'll let you do the math on that one :p
            Those number sound like finance or insurance. Very similar.

            The amount of traffic required to make 100 a day in that market is about about 350-400 unique hits. You need a few strong keywords or a bunch of smaller volume keywords.

            Either way, it takes lots of content and some sites that are at least 2 years old to pull this off, UNLESS you are using PPC.
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          • Profile picture of the author wuleinj
            Originally Posted by gotti3636 View Post

            Hey Will,

            Average CTR is around 8% and average CPC is around $1.40 I'll let you do the math on that one :p
            I do not see any CPC in adsense report. Only CPM is shown on report.
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            • Profile picture of the author wuleinj
              Originally Posted by wuleinj View Post

              I do not see any CPC in adsense report. Only CPM is shown on report.
              BTW: if every click earns over 1 dollar. That is very good or maybe too good. I got 2 cents for 3 click some time.
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  • Profile picture of the author WilliamL
    I'm concentrating on adsense the last time, and this looks interesting!
    Can you PM me where you outsourced the article writing for your websites? How long are the articles?

    Thank you
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    • Profile picture of the author gotti3636
      Originally Posted by WilliamL View Post

      I'm concentrating on adsense the last time, and this looks interesting!
      Can you PM me where you outsourced the article writing for your websites? How long are the articles?

      Thank you
      William
      Hi William, I did not buy the articles separately, they were included in the website creation price. There are 2 articles per website and each one is 2-3 paragraphs long. I won't say exactly who my workers were but all of my workers were found here on the Warrior Forum.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Grant
        Originally Posted by gotti3636 View Post

        Hi William, I did not buy the articles separately, they were included in the website creation price. There are 2 articles per website and each one is 2-3 paragraphs long. I won't say exactly who my workers were but all of my workers were found here on the Warrior Forum.
        I recommend adding at least another 5 pages of content.
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      • Profile picture of the author timpears
        Originally Posted by gotti3636 View Post

        Hi William, I did not buy the articles separately, they were included in the website creation price. There are 2 articles per website and each one is 2-3 paragraphs long. I won't say exactly who my workers were but all of my workers were found here on the Warrior Forum.
        So how much did these websites cost you in total to build? That includes articles and site building.

        And are you still building sites or did you quit when you had forty?

        Did the web builders write the articles or did you hire article writers as well as site builders?

        I am sending you a PM as I want to know how you did this.
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      Originally Posted by WilliamL View Post

      I'm concentrating on adsense the last time, and this looks interesting!
      Can you PM me where you outsourced the article writing for your websites? How long are the articles?

      Thank you
      William
      For outsourcing you can use digitalpoint forum.
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      • Profile picture of the author J Bold
        Originally Posted by DPguy View Post

        For outsourcing you can use digitalpoint forum.
        Uh you could, but you wouldn't want to, ha ha.
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        • Profile picture of the author gotti3636
          Originally Posted by redicelander View Post

          Uh you could, but you wouldn't want to, ha ha.
          I agree, DP isn't well known for producing quality!
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  • Profile picture of the author Gaston Wolf
    Thanks for the post, inspiring story. I'm very close to the 100 a day mark, stories like this inspire me to work harder Outsource outsource!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Rsberg
    Always good to see inspirational threads!
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  • Profile picture of the author DPguy
    This is something similar with Xfactor methodology. Micro niche technique with different title..
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  • Profile picture of the author acedring
    nice post i am currently trying to build money through some niche websites hopefully i will get to this amount..
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  • Profile picture of the author Adie
    Although niche sites are very good, I think authority sites are great. Maintaining 40 sites compared to 5 authority sites makes difference. I would go with authority sites. You said that you are paying someone else to do these for me? Then this method is not for people who want to start from scratch without any start-up fund.. thanks anyway and congratulations..
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    • Profile picture of the author gotti3636
      Originally Posted by Adie View Post

      Although niche sites are very good, I think authority sites are great. Maintaining 40 sites compared to 5 authority sites makes difference. I would go with authority sites. You said that you are paying someone else to do these for me? Then this method is not for people who want to start from scratch without any start-up fund.. thanks anyway and congratulations..
      Apart from paying the yearly domain and hosting costs, there is nothing else to maintain None of the sites have required any extra work after they were made! Having 100 of these websites will require the same amount of effort from me as having 5.

      If you do not have enough money to outsource the tasks then they can be done quite easily by yourself (as long as you have the time to put in to it) I simply had better things to do with my time which is why I outsourced everything!
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      • Profile picture of the author Adie
        Originally Posted by gotti3636 View Post

        Apart from paying the yearly domain and hosting costs, there is nothing else to maintain None of the sites have required any extra work after they were made! Having 100 of these websites will require the same amount of effort from me as having 5.

        If you do not have enough money to outsource the tasks then they can be done quite easily by yourself (as long as you have the time to put in to it) I simply had better things to do with my time which is why I outsourced everything!
        I did 40 sites a couple of years ago, put a lot of time and effort with them but got no significant result. I believe I had the wrong gameplan. I easily sold those website over the years and profited from flipping them. I kept 3 of them in my inventory and transformed into huge authority sites - now they are doing great. I never paid someone else but considering having a VA in next couple of months. My online stock is growing and i need resources too
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      • Profile picture of the author paulie888
        Originally Posted by gotti3636 View Post

        Apart from paying the yearly domain and hosting costs, there is nothing else to maintain None of the sites have required any extra work after they were made! Having 100 of these websites will require the same amount of effort from me as having 5.

        If you do not have enough money to outsource the tasks then they can be done quite easily by yourself (as long as you have the time to put in to it) I simply had better things to do with my time which is why I outsourced everything!
        Thanks for sharing this, Andrew. I'm assuming that once the sites are set up and producing income, you or your outsourced workers do not need to touch or maintain them anymore?

        If that's the case, the recurring costs are pretty minimal as the bulk of the expenses would be renewing the 40 domains, which would cost approximately $400 per year. Hosting fees would be even less, so expenses aren't really a major factor especially when these sites should generate well over $30,000 in 12 months, if this income holds up.

        How much do you estimate that you paid your workers in total to set up these 40 Adsense sites?

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          Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

          How much do you estimate that you paid your workers in total to set up these 40 Adsense sites?

          Paul
          Great question, was just about to ask this myself.

          I would think the highest cost involved here is having the sites developed, If I remember right he said he outsourced that as well.
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        • Profile picture of the author gotti3636
          Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

          Thanks for sharing this, Andrew. I'm assuming that once the sites are set up and producing income, you or your outsourced workers do not need to touch or maintain them anymore?

          If that's the case, the recurring costs are pretty minimal as the bulk of the expense would be 40 domains, which would cost approximately $400 per year. Hosting fees will be even less, so expenses aren't really a major factor especially when these sites should generate over $30,000, if this income holds up.

          How much do you estimate that you paid your workers in total to set up these 40 Adsense sites?

          Paul
          Hey Paul,

          Yes, once they are set up and have a good ranking then there is absolutely no extra work needed as all the traffic is organic. They are all in small, unsaturated niches so keeping a high ranking will not be a problem since there is so little competition

          At $150/day (which is what I predict that they should generate once the last few sites rank a bit higher on Google), they should make around $55,000/year which will increase as I expand and have more websites built.

          The only upkeep cost for the 40 websites is about $550/year for the domains and hosting. Each website cost me around $80 to have made (including all SEO work) so the ROI is huge.

          I thought about flipping them for a nice big instant payout but I don't really need the money right now so would prefer to just have the passive income over time
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          • Profile picture of the author paulie888
            Originally Posted by gotti3636 View Post

            Hey Paul,

            Yes, once they are set up and have a good ranking then there is absolutely no extra work needed as all the traffic is organic. They are all in small, unsaturated niches so keeping a high ranking will not be a problem since there is so little competition

            At $150/day (which is what I predict that they should generate once the last few sites rank a bit higher on Google), they should make around $55,000/year which will increase as I expand and have more websites built.

            The only upkeep cost for the 40 websites is about $550/year for the domains and hosting. Each website cost me around $80 to make (including all SEO work) so the ROI is huge.

            I thought about flipping them for a nice big instant payout but I don't really need the money right now so would prefer to just have the passive income over time
            Andrew, that's a tremendous ROI. While it does take a while for the sites to rank and start earning money, this is about as close to the proverbial "autopilot/hands free" money as you can get, since I assume your outsourced workers did everything from start to finish, and all you needed to do was pay them the money to research and build these sites?

            Were the fees/costs set in advance at $80 per site?

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        Congrats! It's always good to start somewhere and then build from there. Good for you for having a plan and taking action.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrea Wilson
    Definitely inspiring, and this is why I truly love Adsense! It is a really a numbers game with adsense sites eh?

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    I thought about flipping them for a nice big instant payout but I don't really need the money right now so would prefer to just have the passive income over time
    Keep the site is you are not in need of money.... I just posted a similar thread regarding selling a site here: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...new-owner.html
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  • Profile picture of the author skylarw
    Adsense is where I started a few years ago, and I have to admit that I still have 15 sites, or around there, that are paying a small sum daily. However, I have to admit that for the complete newbie there is the problem of knowing exactly what it is that you are outsourcing? Site creation, article creation, article submission, backlinks etc...

    Don't get me wrong, I completely agree that this method is useful and can make just about anyone money on autopilot once the groundwork has been done.
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    • Profile picture of the author gotti3636
      Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

      Andrew, that's a tremendous ROI. While it does take a while for the sites to rank and start earning money, this is about as close to the proverbial "autopilot/hands free" money as you can get, since I assume your outsourced workers did everything from start to finish, and all you needed to do was pay them the money to research and build these sites?

      Were the fees/costs set in advance at $80 per site?

      Paul
      I worked out an estimate in advance with my workers (which was initially $70) but some websites required a bit more SEO work than others so they required a bit more of an investment The average for all of them came to just over $80 per website. The guys who built my websites were different to the SEO group that I used. The price for website creation was always fixed but SEO varied a bit.

      The only catch is that it does take a few months for the websites to become indexed and ranked in a decent position before they start earning consistently.

      Originally Posted by skylarw View Post

      Adsense is where I started a few years ago, and I have to admit that I still have 15 sites, or around there, that are paying a small sum daily. However, I have to admit that for the complete newbie there is the problem of knowing exactly what it is that you are outsourcing? Site creation, article creation, article submission, backlinks etc...

      Don't get me wrong, I completely agree that this method is useful and can make just about anyone money on autopilot once the groundwork has been done.
      That is a fair point. Once you test it with a few websites at the start, you will learn exactly what is needed to reach your goal so then you just need to tell your workers exactly what to do

      I started by having a website created and then asking the SEO group how much it would cost to get that website to position #1-3. Once they came up with a quote for that website, it gave me an idea of the costs so I just made a deal with them to work long term on bulk websites.

      The idea with outsourcing is to hire people who know what they are doing so all of the guesswork at the start is eliminated Someone who is good at SEO will normally be able to tell you exactly what a website needs in order to get a decent ranking by looking at the competing websites.
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      • Profile picture of the author paulie888
        Originally Posted by gotti3636 View Post

        I worked out an estimate in advance with my workers (which was initially $70) but some websites required a bit more SEO work than others so they required a bit more of an investment The average for all of them came to just over $80 per website. The guys who built my websites were different to the SEO group that I used. The price for website creation was always fixed but SEO varied a bit.

        The only catch is that it does take a few months for the websites to become indexed and ranked in a decent position before they start earning consistently.


        I'm well aware of that. This is something everyone should be aware of - this isn't an "instant cash" type of proposition by any means, and you'd have to be patient in waiting for your investment to pay off. I'd imagine you'd have to allow at least 3-4 months to actually receive that first Adsense check from Google.

        Did you have to go through much trial and error in selecting the right offshore workers to implement this Adsense project for you?

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        • Profile picture of the author gotti3636
          Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

          I'm well aware of that. This is something everyone should be aware of - this isn't an "instant cash" type of proposition by any means, and you'd have to be patient in waiting for your investment to pay off. I'd imagine you'd have to allow at least 3-4 months to actually receive that first Adsense check from Google.

          Did you have to go through much trial and error in selecting the right offshore workers to implement this Adsense project for you?

          Paul
          I was lucky and I didn't go through any trial and error at all to select workers. As I mentioned earlier, I found them here on the Warrior Forum and they had already proven their website making and SEO skills so it was simply a matter of working out a long term deal with them
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    Congratulations on finding a great system and thanks for the info. This is a really interesting thread.
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  • Profile picture of the author joetann
    This sort of success story is the reason I started reading up on IM. Must be amazing to have that coming in with no more work needed.

    Your sig says you make $700/day, what other types of sites do you have?
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    • Profile picture of the author gotti3636
      Originally Posted by joetann View Post

      This sort of success story is the reason I started reading up on IM. Must be amazing to have that coming in with no more work needed.

      Your sig says you make $700/day, what other types of sites do you have?
      Hi, the WSO that I sell has nothing to do with websites, it is a totally different business all together where I outline a great way to make money offline with CPA.

      I actually wasn't expecting such good results from these adsense websites, they were just an experiment that turned out to work quite well

      Most of the money I make through IM comes from other sources. This was just a random experiment that caught my interest so I decided to give it a go. I am hoping to scale it up so it makes a lot more money, $150/day is not enough!! :p
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        Originally Posted by gotti3636 View Post

        Hi, the WSO that I sell has nothing to do with websites, it is a totally different business all together where I outline a great way to make money offline with CPA.

        I actually wasn't expecting such good results from these adsense websites, they were just an experiment that turned out to work quite well

        Most of the money I make through IM comes from other sources. This was just a random experiment that caught my interest so I decided to give it a go. I am hoping to scale it up so it makes a lot more money, $150/day is not enough!! :p
        Out of all of those 40 sites, are there not at least a few that can be scaled up to earn $50 or more per day by themselves? Do you have a monetary monthly goal for each site?

        I could be wrong, but working on 40 sites at once, even if it's all outsourced, sounds like a lot of work and organization.
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        • Profile picture of the author gotti3636
          Originally Posted by Lumpy Rutherford View Post

          Out of all of those 40 sites, are there not at least a few that can be scaled up to earn $50 or more per day by themselves? Do you have a monetary monthly goal for each site?

          I could be wrong, but working on 40 sites at once, even if it's all outsourced, sounds like a lot of work and organization.
          Some of them do earn a lot more than others (some earn hardy anything!) but on average they earn a bit under $4/day each. If I was to put in some work with PPC advertising then it is possible to scale a lot of them up to $50+/day but I am happy with organic traffic for now since it requires no work at all.

          Once I bought the domains and added them to my hosting account - my work was complete I gave my workers access to the hosting account so they could upload the websites and do it all themselves. I guess you could say that it is a lot of work and organization for my workers but that is why I am paying them
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        Originally Posted by gotti3636 View Post

        This was just a random experiment that caught my interest so I decided to give it a go.

        Or This is just pre-sell to your next WSO.
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        • Profile picture of the author gotti3636
          Originally Posted by blackjack View Post

          Or This is just pre-sell to your next WSO.
          I guarantee you that I will not make a WSO based on this

          There are already a bunch of WSOs that are focused on making money with adsense so there is no need for another one from me too!

          All the information that you need is right here in this thread:

          1. Build a basic content website or have one built for you.
          2. Do some SEO or have someone else do the SEO for you.
          3. Wait for the websites to become indexed and ranked highly amongst the search engines.
          4. Enjoy the passive income!
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          • Profile picture of the author blackjack
            Damn !! Andrew I was hoping that you were in the process of creating another WSO.

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            • Profile picture of the author gotti3636
              Originally Posted by blackjack View Post

              Damn !! Andrew I was hoping that you were in the process of creating another WSO.

              Thanks
              haha not quite yet! I have been a bit too busy lately to work on my next WSO I have had something planned for quite a while but I don't want to release it until it is perfected.

              How about we pretend that this thread is my new WSO so you can go and implement this blueprint and make yourself some money!
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    • Profile picture of the author gotti3636
      Originally Posted by Quratulain View Post

      oh.....hello How much you paid for those SEO services, because you didn't mention that.......!
      Hi, as I mentioned earlier, the SEO cost varied for each website as some needed more work than others. The total cost per website including all the SEO work averaged out at around $80.
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  • Profile picture of the author robofox
    Inspiring post here. I have been thinking about attempting something of this nature. I am hoping that I would be able to generate enough income to free up time to pursue other avenues of income. The elusive $100 a day would make life a bit less stressful.
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    • Profile picture of the author gotti3636
      Originally Posted by robofox View Post

      Inspiring post here. I have been thinking about attempting something of this nature. I am hoping that I would be able to generate enough income to free up time to pursue other avenues of income. The elusive $100 a day would make life a bit less stressful.
      As long as you are prepared to wait a few months to see a good return on your initial investment then you should implement this strategy
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      • Profile picture of the author halmo
        Hey Andrew, glad to hear stories like this.

        Just curious. Are these mostly one-page sites? Are some of them (fairly) closely related, or are they totally different?
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        • Profile picture of the author gotti3636
          Originally Posted by halmo View Post

          Hey Andrew, glad to hear stories like this.

          Just curious. Are these mostly one-page sites? Are some of them (fairly) closely related, or are they totally different?

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          Hi Hali, they are mostly 1 page websites with just a few hundred words of content. None of them are really related at all, they are all targeting different topics/products.
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    Thanks for sharing your success story Andrew, congrats on your success
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    great success, i hope to have more success like that
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  • Profile picture of the author tr7
    Won't you have to keep paying the workers to keep the rankings? Rankings will fall over time unless you keep adding quality backlinks.
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    • Profile picture of the author gotti3636
      Originally Posted by tr7 View Post

      Won't you have to keep paying the workers to keep the rankings? Rankings will fall over time unless you keep adding quality backlinks.
      Most of the websites have minimal competition for their keyword so any extra SEO to maintain rankings will be minimal
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      • Profile picture of the author Greenfatman
        Originally Posted by gotti3636 View Post

        Most of the websites have minimal competition for their keyword so any extra SEO to maintain rankings will be minimal
        Great, Andrew...

        - Could you say which seo group you are using for backlinks?(I don't think that would hurt your sites at all,actually you would help the seo group making more money and would help all of us too)
        - You have 40 websites, are you hosting all of them with the same IPs?if not, how many sites you'd recommend to use on the same IP?
        - Which company are you using to host those 40 sites? i.e Hostgator,blue hosting,etc..????

        Regards,

        Federico


        P.S. I'll leave you a thank you in advance for this great thread
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        • Profile picture of the author gotti3636
          Originally Posted by Greenfatman View Post

          Great, Andrew...

          - Could you say which seo group you are using for backlinks?(I don't think that would hurt your sites at all,actually you would help the seo group making more money and would help all of us too)
          - You have 40 websites, are you hosting all of them with the same IPs?if not, how many sites you'd recommend to use on the same IP?
          - Which company are you using to host those 40 sites? i.e Hostgator,blue hosting,etc..????

          Regards,

          Federico


          P.S. I'll leave you a thank you in advance for this great thread
          Hi Federico, the SEO team I use is not one of the groups that spam out backlinks using software, it is all done manually by just a few workers

          All the websites are hosted on the same hosting account using GoDaddy hosting.
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          • Profile picture of the author Chris Sweeney
            Cool thread, thanks for posting. I'm doing something similar as well in terms of outsourcing, but only about 25% of it. I should definitely think about outsourcing 100% like you though!
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  • Profile picture of the author rcritchett
    Great job! Hey, I won't hassle anyone for making a buck!

    Unfortunately, however, this isn't going to last too long The permaflux continues!

    Watch out for good old Matt Cutts! He's targeting stuff like this!
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    • Profile picture of the author Justin Hall
      Originally Posted by rcritchett View Post

      Great job! Hey, I won't hassle anyone for making a buck!

      Unfortunately, however, this isn't going to last too long The permaflux continues!

      Watch out for good old Matt Cutts! He's targeting stuff like this!
      If the content is original and relevant, what beef would google have with this set-up?
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by Justin Hall View Post

        If the content is original and relevant, what beef would google have with this set-up?
        Google has recently stated publicly that they are starting to look more closely at spam sites than they have in the past. Although a site may be original and relevant, it may very well be seen as spam.

        An argument can certainly be made that a 1-5 page MFA site is essentially spam. I'm fairly certain that Google can and will eventually make that argument.

        That being said, I say go for it and milk it until Google brings the hammer down.
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        • Profile picture of the author Greenfatman
          Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

          Google has recently stated publicly that they are starting to look more closely at spam sites than they have in the past. Although a site may be original and relevant, it may very well be seen as spam.

          An argument can certainly be made that a 1-5 page MFA site is essentially spam. I'm fairly certain that Google can and will eventually make that argument.

          That being said, I say go for it and milk it until Google brings the hammer down.
          Funny how I see this kind of argument for over 2 years by now...

          Why in the earth google want to bring the hammer down on sites with 1-5 pages???

          As long there's great information(articles,adsense ads which bring more info for the readers)it's fine..... Just give value for the readers, good quality, don't worry about quantity and won't be any problems...
          while we're talking crazy about that, some guys are making money with those little sites for a long long time ago and they will carry on doing it in the futture for sure.

          just my 0.2
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        What type of internet marketing do you think has the best potential to bring in a decent revenue for someone just beginning?
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  • Profile picture of the author AbsolutJake82
    Andrew...definitely inspiring...if you dont mind me asking, how did you determine what topics you were going to concentrate on? Are they all different or are there a few sites per niche?
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    • Profile picture of the author gotti3636
      Originally Posted by AbsolutJake82 View Post

      Andrew...definitely inspiring...if you dont mind me asking, how did you determine what topics you were going to concentrate on? Are they all different or are there a few sites per niche?
      I did not decide on anything - all of that work was done for me by my workers There are a few that are similar but in general, they are all different.
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  • Profile picture of the author aerislee
    Yeah, it makes sense that if you could generate original and unique content consistently, overtime when your site grow big enough, you will rank well and eventually earn money. You need to think like a business man and put some investment to hire people to write for you for at least few months without seeing return first. All back to the business plan...
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    • Profile picture of the author gotti3636
      Originally Posted by aerislee View Post

      Yeah, it makes sense that if you could generate original and unique content consistently, overtime when your site grow big enough, you will rank well and eventually earn money. You need to think like a business man and put some investment to hire people to write for you for at least few months without seeing return first. All back to the business plan...
      You are 100% correct

      And yes, all the content is original and of value to its readers.
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  • Profile picture of the author mlcmartin
    I'm interested in the SEO part.

    How do you drive lots of traffic to your sites without using ppc? Are you using any software for this?
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    • Profile picture of the author gotti3636
      Originally Posted by mlcmartin View Post

      I'm interested in the SEO part.

      How do you drive lots of traffic to your sites without using ppc? Are you using any software for this?
      All the traffic is organic which is why it takes a while at the start while you wait for the sites to gain a decent ranking in the major search engines
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  • Profile picture of the author Damien Roche
    Not sure if this was asked but why did you sell for only $100k if you'd made over $500k in the *first* year alone? Surely it was worth far more..
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  • Profile picture of the author Oosha
    I'd be interested in knowing if all your sites are based purely on Adsense, or are there any that promote affiliate products too. Do you operate all 40 sites on a single Adsense account?

    Congratulations on generating yet another income stream.
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    • Profile picture of the author gotti3636
      Originally Posted by Damien Roche View Post

      Not sure if this was asked but why did you sell for only $100k if you'd made over $500k in the *first* year alone? Surely it was worth far more..
      Hi Damien, I am not sure where you are getting these numbers from, I have not sold any of these websites. Are you sure you have posted in the right thread?

      Originally Posted by Oosha View Post

      I'd be interested in knowing if all your sites are based purely on Adsense, or are there any that promote affiliate products too. Do you operate all 40 sites on a single Adsense account?

      Congratulations on generating yet another income stream.
      They are all monetized with Adsense only. I am currently experimenting with Amazon too but it is too early to share results

      All 40 are on one Adsense account, I didn't think you were allowed to have multiple adsense accounts?
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  • Profile picture of the author Oosha
    Thanks for your prompt response!

    I've never really monetized my sites with Adsense or Amazon, but that's going to change in 2011. Threads like this give me the motivation to go ahead with my plan.

    You seem to know what you're doing, and I'm sure your Amazon experiment will be a success too.
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  • Profile picture of the author kaytav
    Thanks for this ,
    I am also currently running 50 sites and my daily earning from adsense is just 3-5 $ . Will you help me how to increase it .
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  • Profile picture of the author Henri Lind
    you know, it would really inspire people who are new to SEO and IM, if you had done all the work yourself. We as "new members" don't have the ability to hire workers. It is just my opinion But this is great
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  • Profile picture of the author calfred
    Congrats on your $100/day feat.

    You must have chosen all the right keywords, making your sites winners, less duds.

    It would be very helpful if you can divulge on EXACT backlinking method you used

    - how many articles
    - how many links
    - linkwheels?
    - white/gray/black hat methods

    Then, EVERYONE can gain a LOT from your thread.

    Anyone can start 40 websites with 2 pages of content. I certainly can. But it's the backlinking part that stops people from achieving TRUE success in making money online.
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    • Profile picture of the author gotti3636
      Originally Posted by calfred View Post

      Congrats on your $100/day feat.

      You must have chosen all the right keywords, making your sites winners, less duds.

      It would be very helpful if you can divulge on EXACT backlinking method you used

      - how many articles
      - how many links
      - linkwheels?
      - white/gray/black hat methods

      Then, EVERYONE can gain a LOT from your thread.

      Anyone can start 40 websites with 2 pages of content. I certainly can. But it's the backlinking part that stops people from achieving TRUE success in making money online.
      As I mentioned earlier, I actually don't know most of this information. I outsourced everything from the keyword research to the backlinking so I don't know any of the details.

      I am just trying to show that you can make a lot of money online with a bit of a blind investment and without having to know how to do things yourself

      I can tell you that each website has 2 short articles (a few paragraphs for each one) and only whitehat (nothing special or out of the ordinary) SEO methods were used.
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      • Profile picture of the author calfred
        Originally Posted by gotti3636 View Post

        As I mentioned earlier, I actually don't know most of this information. I outsourced everything from the keyword research to the backlinking so I don't know any of the details.
        And do you mind sharing who did you outsource to?

        Either the keyword research team or backlink team did a REALLY excellent job, I can tell ya that.
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        • Profile picture of the author gotti3636
          Originally Posted by calfred View Post

          And do you mind sharing who did you outsource to?

          Either the keyword research team or backlink team did a REALLY excellent job, I can tell ya that.
          I won't say exactly who my workers were because then they will become too busy and won't want to work for me anymore!

          They are all right here on the warrior forum If you have a look around it shouldn't be to hard to find one.
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          • Profile picture of the author calfred
            Originally Posted by gotti3636 View Post

            I won't say exactly who my workers were because then they will become too busy and won't want to work for me anymore!

            They are all right here on the warrior forum If you have a look around it shouldn't be to hard to find one.
            Haha, ok then. Hope the thread was useful for everyone.
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      • Profile picture of the author sunday silence
        Originally Posted by gotti3636 View Post

        .

        I am just trying to show that you can make a lot of money online with a bit of a blind investment and without having to know how to do things yourself .
        But isnt this concept known as far back as the great wall of China?
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        • Profile picture of the author gotti3636
          Originally Posted by Captain_Morgan View Post

          Andrew

          Nice thread can you help me on the following please?

          1) how many unique articles per site
          2) how many words in 1 unique article?
          3) what do you do about backlinks? what is your strategy?

          Thanks
          1) 2 unique articles per site
          2) about 500
          3) Quality over quantity

          Originally Posted by L41db4ck View Post

          Hey Andrew, so does this mean you didn't use The Adsense Goldmine Software Script?
          No, no scripts or anything like that.

          Originally Posted by sunday silence View Post

          But isnt this concept known as far back as the great wall of China?
          It should be, I am just trying to make people more confident
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  • Profile picture of the author HostStage
    Congrats ! Now scale up and make adsense your b1tch ^^
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  • Profile picture of the author Gerald Arno
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    Hey Andrew,

    I totally believe that it´s possible, and outsourcing your
    work through several sources is just smart!

    Currently, we are also running a 100 day Adsense challenge,
    and aiming to rank several keywords on the top of Google.

    Thanks for sharing this post!
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  • Profile picture of the author lexilexi
    Whatever you do, don't use PPC to send traffic to those sites.... fast way to lose your adsense account.
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    • Profile picture of the author calfred
      Originally Posted by lexilexi View Post

      Whatever you do, don't use PPC to send traffic to those sites.... fast way to lose your adsense account.
      Yes, there was once I tried to use the FREE $100 AdWords voucher, wanting to bring traffic to my AdSense sites.

      I signed up and did the registration.

      Soon after, a Google female employee called me and confirmed my website. She sounds puzzled and told me I couldn't do that (using AdWords to bring visitors to AdSense sites).

      Plus, I've heard countless stories (forum threads) where people lost their AdSense accounts because they did not know this.
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  • Profile picture of the author Captain_Morgan
    Andrew

    Nice thread can you help me on the following please?

    1) how many unique articles per site
    2) how many words in 1 unique article?
    3) what do you do about backlinks? what is your strategy?

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author L41db4ck
    Originally Posted by gotti3636 View Post

    I did absolutely none of the required work myself, the websites were created by various workers (who also did the keyword research) and all the SEO work was done by a small SEO team. All I did was buy the domains/hosting and provide my adsense codes to the people creating the websites.
    Hey Andrew, so does this mean you didn't use The Adsense Goldmine Software Script?
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  • Profile picture of the author Aki Fagno
    Wow that's really inspiring. I am applying for an adsense account at the moment. And I hope I can reach the same earnings you are enjoying right now. Great job!
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  • Profile picture of the author JunkYour925
    Andrew,

    Great system - thanks for sharing. I agree with outsourcing and getting others to do the work - run like a business, which reminds me of Bertil Jenners FatCat Blueprint. Read what he has to say about diversifying and when to cut new adsense accts under diff business names. Same with diversifying the hosting accts where your sites are located. Diversify diversify diversify. Especially if anyone is relying on this for their income stream.
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  • Profile picture of the author Greenfatman
    Hello Andrew, thanks for your reply...

    - Do you have the domains with godaddy as well? just wondering 'cause many marketers don't recommend domain and hosting on the same company...

    - On your sites there are just articles and adsense text/images or you have some kind of images based on the niche/keyword?, any affiliate program on the sites? like CPA,amazon ,ebay,clickbank,etc?...

    Regards,

    Federico
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  • Profile picture of the author smwordsmith
    Andrew, thanks for sharing your success with us. You picked a great team to end up with $150 per day for 40 sites. And the fact that you completely trusted them in the keyword\niche research is amazing.

    What criteria did you use in selecting the team or persons to do your keyword research and niche selection? Did these same people write your articles and actually build your website? Also, did they register your domain name.

    Re: your SEO team- what criteria did you use in the selection of this team?

    What did YOU actually do beyond selecting your team and paying for it? Was the whole process 100% automated?

    Thanks.
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    • Profile picture of the author gotti3636
      Originally Posted by Greenfatman View Post

      Hello Andrew, thanks for your reply...

      - Do you have the domains with godaddy as well? just wondering 'cause many marketers don't recommend domain and hosting on the same company...

      - On your sites there are just articles and adsense text/images or you have some kind of images based on the niche/keyword?, any affiliate program on the sites? like CPA,amazon ,ebay,clickbank,etc?...

      Regards,

      Federico
      Hi Federico, the domains and hosting are both with GoDaddy. It is slightly more expensive than others but it is easier to handly when it is all with the same company

      They are all only monetized with adsense, the only image is the banner for the website heading.

      Originally Posted by smwordsmith View Post

      Andrew, thanks for sharing your success with us. You picked a great team to end up with $150 per day for 40 sites. And the fact that you completely trusted them in the keywordniche research is amazing.

      What criteria did you use in selecting the team or persons to do your keyword research and niche selection? Did these same people write your articles and actually build your website? Also, did they register your domain name.

      Re: your SEO team- what criteria did you use in the selection of this team?

      What did YOU actually do beyond selecting your team and paying for it? Was the whole process 100% automated?

      Thanks.
      Hi, all I actually did was pay the workers and register the domain names after being told which ones to register. Other than that, I did absolutely nothing!

      I gave my workers access to my hosting account so they did everything.

      I think the person who discovers the niche and creates the websites outsources the article writing but I am not sure. Quite honestly, I don't mind how it is done as long as I get the result

      To select my workers, I just scouted around here on the Warrior forum and asked people who I believed had the skill-set required, if they were interested in working for me.

      So what I did?

      1. Find workers.
      2. Pay workers.
      3. Register the domain names that I was told to register.

      and that is about it
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      • Profile picture of the author Nedseo
        Great thread,
        I'm looking something similar,i have a few questions.Have i understood it correct that you do below.

        Company 1 : Building websites
        Company 2 : Backlinking

        Than are you using 1 company for backling or more.
        And is this service one time fee or a monthly paying ( how much do you pay ?? for the backlinking service).

        Thanks for the great information.
        Sorry for my bad English writing.

        Kris
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        • Profile picture of the author Bryan V
          Nice post, I haven't really considered outsourcing everything. I'm not so sure I trust people logging into my accounts. I guess I'm just paranoid.




          Originally Posted by Nedseo View Post

          Great thread,
          I'm looking something similar,i have a few questions.Have i understood it correct that you do below.

          Company 1 : Building websites
          Company 2 : Backlinking

          Than are you using 1 company for backling or more.
          And is this service one time fee or a monthly paying ( how much do you pay ?? for the backlinking service).

          Thanks for the great information.
          Sorry for my bad English writing.

          Kris
          Netherlands
          He said it's a one time fee, and on average it's $80 to backlink each site. Some are more and some are less. I haven't been able to find someone on WF who guarantees any top rankings for less than about $150. Though it sounds like that his KW crew probably picks easy terms to work with.
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  • Profile picture of the author petevamp
    I would just like to help simplify this process a little. For you are very very vague on telling them everything you are doing. For starters you need to remember that many do not understand the process for finding good profitable keywords. So I would like to help with this just a little bit.

    One thing they can do to find good keywords for your method to work is simply open up googles keyword tool and find any market they want to explore. Find a few keywords that have over 1k a month global searches with a cpc of atleast 1-2$. Once they have their base set of keywords they want to use then just go over to google and search them first with the allintitle: tag just to see the competition of them.

    However for the most part I am not going to care about this for with a little trick I am about to share it does not matter. You will become an authority on the matter and you will be targeting more then just 2 main keywords per site.

    What you do after you have done a little scouting is simply open up the wonder wheel search feature in google. Search for your keywords again using that little tool. Write or have written an article on each of those keywords and not you have an authority site with 5 pages highly relevant to your main keyword. Which makes it that much easier for you to rank for your main keyword.

    Then very little seo work is actually needed and you do not have to outsource anything other then maybe the page creators/sitedesigners. However they can even be eliminated by simply using wordpress for your site with the thousands of free designs available. Then all you would have to do is create the content and do some linking. Game set match move on to the next one once you have enough links to get over your main competitor in google for the allintitle:search
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  • Profile picture of the author Jackie Walters
    WOW! That was helpful information! The site I am current;ly using already has that set up in it!!
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  • Profile picture of the author stevenukas
    Could you share some of your website? I was thinking about making something like you did, but wasn't sure about and how to keep with all the work.
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    • Profile picture of the author Greenfatman
      Originally Posted by stevenukas View Post

      Could you share some of your website? I was thinking about making something like you did, but wasn't sure about and how to keep with all the work.
      I think he would be out of his mind if he would do that....

      Never ever share your site if you are making money, especially with adsense...

      Just forget it!
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  • Profile picture of the author mmsearch
    HI

    Had a quick question for you:

    How many hosting accounts do you have and how sites are you hosting per account?

    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author Greenfatman
      Originally Posted by mmsearch View Post

      HI

      Had a quick question for you:

      How many hosting accounts do you have and how sites are you hosting per account?

      Thanks
      Hello,
      if you scroll up on this thread you will see this question was already answered...

      He's hosting everything on the same server...

      Hosting/domain with Godaddy...

      Regards,

      Federico
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  • Profile picture of the author dadamson
    Very good thread!

    It shows the power of outsourcing and just taking action. Once you take action you basically don't need to do any REAL work at all, just delegation.

    The only thing I wouldn't outsource though is keyword research.

    I always spend a lot of time on this and strive to get my keywords spot on so that I know they are going to make me a lot of money.

    Cheers,
    Dave
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    • Profile picture of the author JunkYour925
      Originally Posted by dadamson View Post

      Very good thread!

      It shows the power of outsourcing and just taking action. Once you take action you basically don't need to do any REAL work at all, just delegation.

      The only thing I wouldn't outsource though is keyword research.

      I always spend a lot of time on this and strive to get my keywords spot on so that I know they are going to make me a lot of money.

      Cheers,
      Dave
      yes the exact same way real estate investors run their businesses. Pretty much just coordinate all the activities involved to build your empire of sites. It's how I am now operating and so much more gets done. All I do is keyword research and product selection and farm out the rest. Then on to the next site and so on. Stamp em out like a wholesaler flips houses.
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  • Profile picture of the author amaliabalnis
    i could conclude that to get success, you will need to put hand on work and treat it as a real work. Be patience and i see ppl make most of money this way
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  • Profile picture of the author mmsearch
    Hi andrew- Just wondering if things are still going strong?

    Have been following along was just curious
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  • Profile picture of the author thebitbotdotcom
    Do you have them all monetized with the same Adsense account and do you have the same Google Analytics code on all of them?

    Basically, do you have a footprint?
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    • Profile picture of the author tayuyaa
      Hi,

      How many times it takes for your sites get ranked?
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      • Profile picture of the author gotti3636
        Originally Posted by mmsearch View Post

        Hi andrew- Just wondering if things are still going strong?

        Have been following along was just curious
        Yes things are still running well, now up to around $120/day and aiming for $150+/day once all the websites' SEO is complete.

        Originally Posted by thebitbotdotcom View Post

        Do you have them all monetized with the same Adsense account and do you have the same Google Analytics code on all of them?

        Basically, do you have a footprint?
        Yes I use the same adsense account for all the websites - It is easier to track that way. I don't bother with analytics since adsense tells me roughly the number of visitors (impressions).

        Originally Posted by tayuyaa View Post

        Hi,

        How many times it takes for your sites get ranked?
        It depends, some take a few weeks to get to the position that I want them to be in and others take a few months.
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          Quick question, how many of the sites you put through were successful? By success I mean first page ranking or earning revenue every month.
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          • Profile picture of the author gotti3636
            Originally Posted by TryBPO View Post

            Quick question, how many of the sites you put through were successful? By success I mean first page ranking or earning revenue every month.
            All of them will be successful. Some are taking a bit longer than others to get a high ranking though
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            • Profile picture of the author TryBPO
              Originally Posted by gotti3636 View Post

              All of them will be successful. Some are taking a bit longer than others to get a high ranking though
              I love the optimism!

              But really 100%? With 40 sites being outsourced, simple error rates dictate that you will have some failures. More for you because you don't have direct supervision of the process, just results. If some part f the process was missed or done incorrectly, how would you know?

              We have about 150 sites going that we started setting up in December 2010. Our setup cost is half yours ($40 per site including content and SEO -- we do our own keyword research and niche selection), but I imagine that's because we are actually on the ground running things here in the Philippines and therefore have a better idea of what to pay people instead of outsourcing to the other side of the world.

              Still we don't expect a 100% success rate. If 30% of the sites fail, we still make a ton of money.

              You mentioned it takes "months" for your sites to become fully ranked. We see a big take off after 60 days. How about you? When would you call it quits on a site that is not ranking or not showing any meaningful revenue?
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              • Profile picture of the author gotti3636
                Originally Posted by TryBPO View Post

                I love the optimism!

                But really 100%? With 40 sites being outsourced, simple error rates dictate that you will have some failures. More for you because you don't have direct supervision of the process, just results. If some part f the process was missed or done incorrectly, how would you know?

                We have about 150 sites going that we started setting up in December 2010. Our setup cost is half yours ($40 per site including content and SEO -- we do our own keyword research and niche selection), but I imagine that's because we are actually on the ground running things here in the Philippines and therefore have a better idea of what to pay people instead of outsourcing to the other side of the world.

                Still we don't expect a 100% success rate. If 30% of the sites fail, we still make a ton of money.

                You mentioned it takes "months" for your sites to become fully ranked. We see a big take off after 60 days. How about you? When would you call it quits on a site that is not ranking or not showing any meaningful revenue?
                Well so far, all of the websites have been making good money on a consistent basis by the 3 month mark Some take a couple of weeks, it really depends on how much competition there is. None have failed to reach the mark so far. Instead of paying my workers to do certain tasks like 'create XXXX backlinks' or 'write XXX articles', I simply pay them to get my websites to the high end of page 1. That is why I am not sure exactly what they do in terms of SEO, I only care about the result I don't mind paying them a bit extra if it means they will do the job well!
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                • Profile picture of the author MarketingTorch
                  Originally Posted by gotti3636 View Post

                  Well so far, all of the websites have been making good money on a consistent basis by the 3 month mark Some take a couple of weeks, it really depends on how much competition there is. None have failed to reach the mark so far. Instead of paying my workers to do certain tasks like 'create XXXX backlinks' or 'write XXX articles', I simply pay them to get my websites to the high end of page 1. That is why I am not sure exactly what they do in terms of SEO, I only care about the result I don't mind paying them a bit extra if it means they will do the job well!
                  OK, so if you don't know what they are doing, it's possible then that your SEO team could be using black hat (or grey hat) to jump the SERP ranks faster? It would be nice to know something about the SEO that's going on to build high value Adsense conversions in as little as two weeks with only organic traffic! (That sounds like some ad copy I've written for someone. lol :rolleyes Fantastic results, man. No doubt about it.
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                • Profile picture of the author jerytohn
                  Well, he apparently says otherwise.... you'd have to ask him though



                  Originally Posted by gotti3636 View Post

                  Well so far, all of the websites have been making good money on a consistent basis by the 3 month mark Some take a couple of weeks, it really depends on how much competition there is. None have failed to reach the mark so far. Instead of paying my workers to do certain tasks like 'create XXXX backlinks' or 'write XXX articles', I simply pay them to get my websites to the high end of page 1. That is why I am not sure exactly what they do in terms of SEO, I only care about the result I don't mind paying them a bit extra if it means they will do the job well!
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                  • Profile picture of the author Brendan Mace
                    Originally Posted by jerytohn View Post

                    Well, he apparently says otherwise.... you'd have to ask him though
                    I missed that direct quote :confused:

                    If I could find a group of peeps to get my websites ranked for 50$ I would be a happy, happy dude.

                    Other than the inspirational story, I still don't understand the point of this thread. Perhaps I'll continue searching for the seo group that's willing to perform miracles for cheap....

                    It is rather ironic that I called you ignorant... since I missed that quote. I am really just shocked that he can get a website ranked for half a hundie... seriously, that is not the norm.
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                    • Profile picture of the author jerytohn
                      Originally Posted by co2 View Post

                      I missed that direct quote :confused:

                      If I could find a group of peeps to get my websites ranked for 50$ I would be a happy, happy dude.

                      Other than the inspirational story, I still don't understand the point of this thread. Perhaps I'll continue searching for the seo group that's willing to perform miracles for cheap....

                      It is rather ironic that I called you ignorant... since I missed that quote. I am really just shocked that he can get a website ranked for half a hundie... seriously, that is not the norm.

                      Tell you what, buy a low competition exact match domain....put on an article or two and take up 10 different Fiverr SEO gigs for $50. See how far it goes
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                      • Profile picture of the author Brendan Mace
                        Originally Posted by jerytohn View Post

                        Tell you what, buy a low competition exact match domain....put on an article or two and take up 10 different Fiverr SEO gigs for $50. See how far it goes
                        I've spent WAY MORE than 50$ on fiverr ... great site

                        And I actually do have about 20 sites that are on or near page 1. The only part I'm disputing is being able to outsource the whole SEO process for 50$

                        Yeah, I agree that you can get non-competitive sites ranked without much seo work.

                        But the poster is referring to a collection of sites that each make a significant amount of dollars per day. Non-competitive sites ALMOST NEVER make that amount through adsense. So they are most likely mildly competitive.

                        And for that, it takes more than fiverr ... from my experience anyways.

                        Sounds like he's got a good team of outsourced employees...
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                        • Profile picture of the author jerytohn
                          Originally Posted by co2 View Post

                          I've spent WAY MORE than 50$ on fiverr ... great site

                          And I actually do have about 20 sites that are on or near page 1. The only part I'm disputing is being able to outsource the whole SEO process for 50$

                          Yeah, I agree that you can get non-competitive sites ranked without much seo work.

                          But the poster is referring to a collection of sites that each make a significant amount of dollars per day. Non-competitive sites ALMOST NEVER make that amount through adsense. So they are most likely mildly competitive.

                          And for that, it takes more than fiverr ... from my experience anyways.

                          Sounds like he's got a good team of outsourced employees...

                          That means I am probably more noob than you

                          I think Gotti has mentioned somewhere that some of his sites don't make much at all and some make a few hundred. So, I am guessing he may have gotten lucky on a few sites. Out of 40, probably a few turned out to be winners.
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                    • Profile picture of the author TryBPO
                      Originally Posted by co2 View Post

                      I missed that direct quote :confused:

                      If I could find a group of peeps to get my websites ranked for 50$ I would be a happy, happy dude.

                      Other than the inspirational story, I still don't understand the point of this thread. Perhaps I'll continue searching for the seo group that's willing to perform miracles for cheap....

                      It is rather ironic that I called you ignorant... since I missed that quote. I am really just shocked that he can get a website ranked for half a hundie... seriously, that is not the norm.
                      Come to the Philippines. We can show you how to do it for $40 a site with an 80% success rate on the first page.

                      The real problem I have with this thread is the revenue numbers. I just don't think having only 50 micro niche sites will make you $100 a day. Without proof I just don't believe it.
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                      • Profile picture of the author Brendan Mace
                        Originally Posted by TryBPO View Post

                        Come to the Philippines. We can show you how to do it for $40 a site with an 80% success rate on the first page.

                        The real problem I have with this thread is the revenue numbers. I just don't think having only 50 micro niche sites will make you $100 a day. Without proof I just don't believe it.
                        yeah, I read the thread you created... excellent stuff. I really appreciated the value you presented to ... didn't really hold back at all.

                        Although I think you're situation is different. To me it looked like you were going after micro niches. Gotti seems to be going after slightly more competitive keywords. Hence the higher amount of money per site.

                        Both incredibly valid methods.

                        Yours requires more sites but less seo

                        his requires more seo

                        how he ranks and makes that much per site ... all for 50$ is quite impressive. Wish I knew how he did it.
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                        • Profile picture of the author TryBPO
                          Originally Posted by co2 View Post

                          yeah, I read the thread you created... excellent stuff. I really appreciated the value you presented to ... didn't really hold back at all.

                          Although I think you're situation is different. To me it looked like you were going after micro niches. Gotti seems to be going after slightly more competitive keywords. Hence the higher amount of money per site.

                          Both incredibly valid methods.

                          Yours requires more sites but less seo

                          his requires more seo

                          how he ranks and makes that much per site ... all for 50$ is quite impressive. Wish I knew how he did it.
                          Yeah, you're absolutely right. If he's making the revenue he claims per site, he's targeting keyword with a much higher degree of difficulty than we are now.

                          I'll tell you what, though...I went back through some of our KW research we did months ago (We save everything...we're like cloud-based pack rats!) and looked up some of the more challenging/difficult keywords that we didn't target because we thought they might be too tough. What we found is that, in some cases, the domains were purchased, sites put up, and sitting right there, middle of the first page.

                          We've tried to "balance" our keyword research...ignoring those that we guessed would be too tough, getting a few higher paying but low-comp keywords, mixed in with the real micro-niche stuff, etc. I'm wonder though, as we continue on and get better...we should get better at picking the niches though, right? And we can push for a higher degree of difficulty without doing anything more...and then do more AFTER we see it doesn't work as well?

                          I'd still say I question the OP's numbers....but who knows...people questions ours too. <shrugs>
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              • Profile picture of the author Nedseo
                Originally Posted by TryBPO View Post

                I love the optimism!

                But really 100%? With 40 sites being outsourced, simple error rates dictate that you will have some failures. More for you because you don't have direct supervision of the process, just results. If some part f the process was missed or done incorrectly, how would you know?

                We have about 150 sites going that we started setting up in December 2010. Our setup cost is half yours ($40 per site including content and SEO -- we do our own keyword research and niche selection), but I imagine that's because we are actually on the ground running things here in the Philippines and therefore have a better idea of what to pay people instead of outsourcing to the other side of the world.

                Still we don't expect a 100% success rate. If 30% of the sites fail, we still make a ton of money.

                You mentioned it takes "months" for your sites to become fully ranked. We see a big take off after 60 days. How about you? When would you call it quits on a site that is not ranking or not showing any meaningful revenue?
                :confused: Where do I find outsourcing for $40 per site, can anybody help me with finding a good SEO backlinking service for that price or maybe $60 per site.I can not find the right persons who would do that SeO service they talking about in this thread.

                Sorry for my bad English writing.
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                • Profile picture of the author TryBPO
                  Originally Posted by Nedseo View Post

                  :confused: Where do I find outsourcing for $40 per site, can anybody help me with finding a good SEO backlinking service for that price or maybe $60 per site.I can not find the right persons who would do that SeO service they talking about in this thread.

                  Sorry for my bad English writing.
                  Kris from the Netherlands
                  Hey Kris,

                  I should clarify as I've had some questions about "$40 sites". We don't pay to have the sites done...we do them ourselves with our own staff. I'm just saying that AT COST, our cost is around $40 per site (maybe a little under as we're getting more efficient at it).

                  We were considering having staff setup sites for others at a marked-up cost, but after consideration, we'd rather just keep the sites ourselves! Why deal with the hassle of "customers", heh.
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  • Profile picture of the author JayVance
    NVM, already answered the question.
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    • Profile picture of the author indalor1
      Impressive results. My question is how long did it take to get all 40 sites up? Not before they started making money but from first to last how long before number 40 was live?

      Also since every part of this was outsourced which part of the outsourcing cost the most per site?

      Oh and how long did it take before you were averaging $20, $30, $50 etc. a day?
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  • Profile picture of the author Phatspot
    Well done. Man I should doing that type of IM too, since I do not have to pay for hosting fees. Only my laziness and my lack of creativity to find a niche stops me from world domination!
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  • Profile picture of the author mikengo
    How's the new Google algorithm change treating your MFA sites?
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    • Profile picture of the author inter123
      There were a lot of people with similar strategies of thin Adsense sites were wiped in the Alogoritm changes last May. Perhaps you are ranking because the SEO effort is stronger.
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  • Profile picture of the author mmsearch
    Hey andrew= just wondering- not sure if you answered this or not- but are you doing any additional work on your sites- ie adding anymore content?
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    • Profile picture of the author gotti3636
      Originally Posted by indalor1 View Post

      Impressive results. My question is how long did it take to get all 40 sites up? Not before they started making money but from first to last how long before number 40 was live?

      Also since every part of this was outsourced which part of the outsourcing cost the most per site?

      Oh and how long did it take before you were averaging $20, $30, $50 etc. a day?
      Each website was created in about 1 day and was live the day after. I had all 40 made within a month. The SEO accounted for the highest cost, the website cost was minimal. Income built up gradually over a few months as traffic and rankings increased.

      Originally Posted by mikengo View Post

      How's the new Google algorithm change treating your MFA sites?
      I havn't noticed much of a change at all Most still have the exact same ranking as before and I am still earning consistently.

      Originally Posted by mmsearch View Post

      Hey andrew= just wondering- not sure if you answered this or not- but are you doing any additional work on your sites- ie adding anymore content?
      No, I am not doing any additional work.
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  • Profile picture of the author markowe
    Interesting idea, definitely!

    How do you know your outsourcers aren't rotating in their Adsense code for every few pageviews ?

    Only joking, but then again, you know... I personally wouldn't like to have that lack of control over my Internet property, but if you've got a bit of money to invest it WOULD be a pretty good return that paid for itself very quickly.
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  • Profile picture of the author junilerick
    Inspirational yet depressing at the same time. I just got into the world of SEO about 2 weeks ago, and have realized that internet marketing, like everything else in life that can potentially reward you generously are tough, tough work. To hear that your automated sites make more than me makes me a bit sad face...
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  • Profile picture of the author vsky
    When you say SEO, do you mean just on-page, or backlinks aswell?
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    you really worked hard for it, congrats, i think you had find the best workers for your site.
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    yea i agree with you, we have to patient to wait the earning
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  • Profile picture of the author warsonprinting
    Andrew Gotti,
    how can you get so many hits? just PR improve?
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  • Profile picture of the author greatcarvers
    I'm concentrating on adsense the last time, and this looks interesting!
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  • Profile picture of the author faysal969
    Thank you very much for your post, because this will show some light of hope to a huge number of people who are continuously loosing their interest on Adsense day by day.
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  • Profile picture of the author Drewry_Media
    But, you do know that it takes work in order to make money. At 1st I thought I could sit back and do nothing online with just having a website, hosting and a domain. It's actually more work than a traditional 9 to 5, but the feeling is very liberating, because it is your own entity and you can work whenever you'd like, minus the pressure of having a boss or someone standing over your shoulder , telling you what to do. I just can't do that no more. That ain't gonna work, so that is why now I work hard online and be the best i can be. But yeah..you can't just sit back and do nothing, and expect to earn AdSense income. It's gonna take some work, buddy! =)
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  • Profile picture of the author akif
    Inspiring Story I consider myself a newbie in this field but i have made 700$ in two months from just one Blog. but now after joining this forum i have created another blog and i guess i will double that amount ASAP thanks to you guys.. keep up the good work
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  • Profile picture of the author Simon74
    The adsense mini site creation does work, I have been doing for quite some time now.

    Adsense is the best way to make money online on autopilot.

    Simon
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    • Profile picture of the author gotti3636
      Originally Posted by MarketingTorch View Post

      OK, so if you don't know what they are doing, it's possible then that your SEO team could be using black hat (or grey hat) to jump the SERP ranks faster? It would be nice to know something about the SEO that's going on to build high value Adsense conversions in as little as two weeks with only organic traffic! (That sounds like some ad copy I've written for someone. lol :rolleyes Fantastic results, man. No doubt about it.
      They could be but I don't think they are since it takes sometimes a couple of months to get some decent ranking results.

      Originally Posted by markowe View Post

      Interesting idea, definitely!

      How do you know your outsourcers aren't rotating in their Adsense code for every few pageviews ?

      Only joking, but then again, you know... I personally wouldn't like to have that lack of control over my Internet property, but if you've got a bit of money to invest it WOULD be a pretty good return that paid for itself very quickly.
      I check the pages when they are finished with them and again every week or two just to make sure they are still working correctly. My workers think I pay them well so I don't think they would risk losing me.

      Originally Posted by vsky View Post

      When you say SEO, do you mean just on-page, or backlinks aswell?
      on and off page SEO.

      Originally Posted by ProvenWorthy View Post

      Hi Gotti,

      Will you be making a WSO out of this?

      Regards,
      Joachim
      I won't make a WSO about this. It is hard to make a WSO that just tells people to pay someone else to do the work haha. I have already given you all of the information here in this thread For free!

      Originally Posted by fishka View Post

      Nice results!

      How much total traffic do you have on your 40 sites daily?
      Traffic varies, I mentioned rough numbers in an earlier post.

      Originally Posted by Simon74 View Post

      The adsense mini site creation does work, I have been doing for quite some time now.

      Adsense is the best way to make money online on autopilot.

      Simon
      Hi Simon, Adsense is a good way to make money on autopilot All you need is some consistent organic traffic!
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  • Profile picture of the author guynboston
    great post! my target is also to make at least 100 a day. I created a niche site a week ago, and just now when I check I already got two clicks for almost 2 bucks!
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      Originally Posted by guynboston View Post

      great post! my target is also to make at least 100 a day. I created a niche site a week ago, and just now when I check I already got two clicks for almost 2 bucks!
      Hey guy that's awesome! It's inspirational to see so many people seeing results, especially quick results. Now there's just that agony of waiting two months for the Big G to post your deposit!
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    Andrew,

    Sent you a pm.

    Adam
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  • Profile picture of the author polyvisual
    How have your sites faired with the latest Google Panda update? If the content is unique and well written they should be OK
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  • Profile picture of the author Pinkysoll
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    This is a very inspirational thread. I have more than a basic knowledge on how to do keyword research and build simple websites so I'm going to stop taking in more information and start acting on what I've already learnt.

    Guess you can say this was the final push I needed. It is possible and I'm going to do it.

    Thanks for this Gotti.

    I love this forum for real.
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  • Profile picture of the author Josh MacDonald
    It's amazing how a catchy title and a good Adsense screenshot can generate 3+ pages of replies ahaha.
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  • Profile picture of the author Claudio
    Long way to success!
    It is very inspiring all this information. I have just started and I make $1 a day, not much of a income is it?
    I have 10 free blogs 4 of them makes the income 0.56 CTR.
    Long way to go isn't it?
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  • Profile picture of the author Jhonsons
    Very nice i have read your all posts and want to know that what types of sites do you have ?
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  • Profile picture of the author WealthWithin
    Hi Andrew,

    What sort of contract did you make with the SEO team? Is that like $ xx upfront and $ xx after ranking a keyword above #3? or is that an hourly rate? or both?

    How much did you pay (on average) to rank a low-competition keyword at #3?

    $1.40 CPC is high. What sort of niches do you target? Service based (like plumbers/insurance) or product based?


    Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author warriorspirit786
    Where can i get a genuine adsense site built that will make me some money?
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  • Profile picture of the author TryBPO
    We've started selling off some of our AdSense sites on Flippa. Better than having them built and seeing if they make money, you can buy some that actually ARE making money now: https://flippa.com/132220-89month---...--Page1-Google

    There are others sold there that have revenue, but expect to pay 8 (discount) to 12 (standard) months revenue for them. Additionally, you can buy sites that are built around keywords but don't have any history and finish them off yourself for less money, but it's a bit more risky of course.
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  • Profile picture of the author markowe
    Buying 'earning' websites is a form of speculation - I just don't see that's something anyone should get into too readily. Value can decrease as well as increase, know what I mean?

    There are some WSOs too where they will build you a mini-niche site and get you going.

    Personally I am glad I went (and am still going) through the whole process of site-building and promotion - you learn so much along the way, and you crack it eventually if you are persistent.

    I just don't see the point of buying/ordering a ready Adsense site - it's a form of investment with risks like any other. Might as well go into real estate (not!).

    Learn the process and then you'll be the one selling them on Flippa
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    • Profile picture of the author TryBPO
      Originally Posted by markowe View Post

      Buying 'earning' websites is a form of speculation - I just don't see that's something anyone should get into too readily. Value can decrease as well as increase, know what I mean?

      There are some WSOs too where they will build you a mini-niche site and get you going.

      Personally I am glad I went (and am still going) through the whole process of site-building and promotion - you learn so much along the way, and you crack it eventually if you are persistent.

      I just don't see the point of buying/ordering a ready Adsense site - it's a form of investment with risks like any other. Might as well go into real estate (not!).

      Learn the process and then you'll be the one selling them on Flippa
      While our accounts are well built and "should" continue earning money for months/years to come....you're absolutely right, Mark....it is speculation.

      Your BEST chance of success (and to maximize profits on the accounts) would be to build them yourself. ASIDE from the revenue aspect, just learning the process through trial and error will teach you valuable information if, later on, you do decide to start purchasing sites rather than creating them that will keep you from buying the duds/losers.

      Honestly, we've been going back and forth about whether we should be selling them on Flippa anyway...why not just hang on to them and continue to earn the passive income? Ultimately, our decision to start selling chunks of them off is due to the fact that we want to scale our profitable process rather quickly, so we're reinvesting the UP FRONT income from the sales to build more sites. For now, we'll sell the earners and reinvest in more sites...while hanging on to the duds we've created so that when/if they do start earning for us, we can either keep them or sell them at that point.
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  • Profile picture of the author WealthWithin
    Originally Posted by gobin805 View Post

    I did not decide on anything - all of that work was done for me by my workers There are a few that are similar but in general, they are all different.
    huh.. what's this?
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  • Profile picture of the author timpears
    When I first started reading this thread I thought the OP was offering to tell us how he did this. Which he did I guess, he hired some people to do it. I first thought I read, if you want to know how it was done, PM me, but then I reread it and realized it said, DON'T PM me. And his answers have avoided telling anyone the process or who did the work or how any of it was done.

    So it looks like the OP was just pounding his chest to tell us of his success. All well and good as he did do quite well. If it was me, I would have the team do some more sites, but he has chosen to stop at 40 from what I can gather, but I may be wrong.

    So although I thought I might learn something from this thread, unfortunately the only thing I picked up was to reinforce my feelings that outsourcing is the way to go.

    It was an interesting read, that is for sure. It would have been nice if the OP hadn't ignored my questions. But oh well.
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    • Profile picture of the author TryBPO
      Originally Posted by timpears View Post

      When I first started reading this thread I thought the OP was offering to tell us how he did this. Which he did I guess, he hired some people to do it. I first thought I read, if you want to know how it was done, PM me, but then I reread it and realized it said, DON'T PM me. And his answers have avoided telling anyone the process or who did the work or how any of it was done.

      So it looks like the OP was just pounding his chest to tell us of his success. All well and good as he did do quite well. If it was me, I would have the team do some more sites, but he has chosen to stop at 40 from what I can gather, but I may be wrong.

      So although I thought I might learn something from this thread, unfortunately the only thing I picked up was to reinforce my feelings that outsourcing is the way to go.

      It was an interesting read, that is for sure. It would have been nice if the OP hadn't ignored my questions. But oh well.
      Tim, I understand where you are coming from, but you also have to see from the OP's point of view. I have a network of sites that I have built up over the last few months and although I have revealed parts of the process here for free (namely keyword research), I'm pretty proud of the fact that I have gotten my AdSense account up to a sustainable income in less than 6 months. That's not something I am willing to reveal willy nilly. The OP probably has the same approach.

      That said, I am thinking of yet another way to generate revenue from some of the sites under management. By auctioning off a small part of my network every week or month, it would significantly increase cash flow as I would realize the revenue faster than just waiting around for clicks to come in.

      Perhaps you would be interested? It would get your network started off on the right foot and I would be happy to discuss the process with you privately.
      This is my first hack at this, so I would appreciate you taking a look and telling me your thoughts:

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    • Profile picture of the author Dellco
      Originally Posted by timpears View Post

      When I first started reading this thread I thought the OP was offering to tell us how he did this. Which he did I guess, he hired some people to do it. I first thought I read, if you want to know how it was done, PM me, but then I reread it and realized it said, DON'T PM me. And his answers have avoided telling anyone the process or who did the work or how any of it was done.

      So it looks like the OP was just pounding his chest to tell us of his success. All well and good as he did do quite well. If it was me, I would have the team do some more sites, but he has chosen to stop at 40 from what I can gather, but I may be wrong.

      So although I thought I might learn something from this thread, unfortunately the only thing I picked up was to reinforce my feelings that outsourcing is the way to go.

      It was an interesting read, that is for sure. It would have been nice if the OP hadn't ignored my questions. But oh well.
      I think I can summarize the whole thread.
      • Get lots of domains, preferably EMDs
      • Hire people to do the job of website creation
      • Hire people to build backlinks to them
      • Wait for a couple of months
      • Watch the money flow in
      • Start a thread on WF and tell people, this is how I did it. Anything you want to know, ask my workers.
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      • Profile picture of the author timpears
        Originally Posted by Dellco View Post

        • Start a thread on WF and tell people, this is how I did it. Anything you want to know, ask my workers.
        You missed one point. And that would be, sorry but I can't give you their contact information.

        I understand his position and support it. I just got the wrong impression when I first read the thread. I thought he had come here to help people, and in fact, he only came here to tell us how well he did. Which is ok. I started a couple of threads a few months ago, one when I was so excited that I broke $100 in a day with AdSense, and then a week or two later when I had a couple of $200+ days with AdSense. I was only there to share my excitement of achieving that, and to motivate others that they could do it to.
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        • Profile picture of the author Brendan Mace
          I strongly disagree with the 'anyone should be able to do this' claim. I'm sure there are a bunch of people who would love to invest 90 bucks per website, and make a ROI like you have here. The problem is that not many people know how to do the process.

          I appreciate your story of success, but it is a little misleading to say 'anyone can do this' and then not tell 'anyone' how to do it. Only people that have an advanced understanding of seo and outsourcing would be able to pull of that ROI.

          I've spent way more than 50 dollars on seo per site for far less results. Plus I did a bunch of the work myself. I fit into the category of 'anyone,' and I sure as heck can't replicate these results.

          A job well done for sure, but definitely not as easy as you make it sound
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          • Profile picture of the author Brendan Mace
            Also, I'm really surprised that you haven't created a WSO. You mention that you've given all the information away for free. But you left out the only part that 'really matters.'

            I would definitely consider paying money to hear the tasks and methods you assign to your employees. But without out that, I'm not really sure what to take out of this thread other than it is possible. Which is definitely encouraging. I guess I was just hoping for the guide that would help 'anyone' pull this off.

            In any event, those are darn good results.
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          • Profile picture of the author timpears
            Originally Posted by co2 View Post

            I strongly disagree with the 'anyone should be able to do this' claim. I'm sure there are a bunch of people who would love to invest 90 bucks per website, and make a ROI like you have here. The problem is that not many people know how to do the process.
            Very well put. I couldn't agree more.
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  • Profile picture of the author sonicadam123
    Congrats on your success, reading stories like this is always inspiring, cheers!
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  • Profile picture of the author gotti3636
    Hi all,

    Sorry I have not been following this thread lately, I forgot all about it

    I now have it up to 70 websites from the initial 40 and earnings are up to nearly $200/day now.

    I had a look at some of the questions (how much it cost me etc.) being asked in recent posts and I have already answered them throughout the thread so please take the time to read it as I do not want to post the same thing over and over again!

    I give my workers enough work with my own websites so I am not going to share with you exactly who does my SEO/website building. Sorry if that sounds selfish but I don't want my workers becoming overloaded! Take a look around the forum, there are a bunch of people offering website and SEO services and they are all basically the same
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    • Profile picture of the author TryBPO
      Originally Posted by gotti3636 View Post

      Hi all,

      Sorry I have not been following this thread lately, I forgot all about it

      I now have it up to 70 websites from the initial 40 and earnings are up to nearly $200/day now.
      How long did it take to get to $200 a day? Did you see big jump or was it a slow crawl all the way up?
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      • Profile picture of the author gotti3636
        Originally Posted by TryBPO View Post

        How long did it take to get to $200 a day? Did you see big jump or was it a slow crawl all the way up?
        It has been a few months since I started and the income slowly increases day after day as the websites continue to move up in the rankings.
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        • Profile picture of the author TryBPO
          Originally Posted by gotti3636 View Post

          It has been a few months since I started and the income slowly increases day after day as the websites continue to move up in the rankings.
          From personal experience I can tell you it takes more than a few months to hit $200 a day. Mind providing any details to support your claims?
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          • Profile picture of the author gotti3636
            Originally Posted by TryBPO View Post

            From personal experience I can tell you it takes more than a few months to hit $200 a day. Mind providing any details to support your claims?
            The first website was built about 5-6 months ago and more and more have been built ever since.

            70 websites making about $3/day each will make you $200/day. From my experience, it is rather simple to obtain websites that earn <$5 per day so it is just a matter of repetition.

            I am not trying to sell anything here, I am simply providing some motivation and showing people that it is possible.
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            • Profile picture of the author TryBPO
              Originally Posted by gotti3636 View Post

              The first website was built about 5-6 months ago and more and more have been built ever since.

              70 websites making about $3/day each will make you $200/day. From my experience, it is rather simple to obtain websites that earn <$5 per day so it is just a matter of repetition.

              I am not trying to sell anything here, I am simply providing some motivation and showing people that it is possible.
              Gotcha, but let's be honest -- you do have several other offers in several other places. In the end, we are selling something.

              I agree that it is possible to make good a good income from niche AdSense sites even with all of Google's recent changes. What tends to irk me most however, are the claims that it is "so easy" or "everything can just be outsourced". Also, the dollar amounts are very inflated from most gurus.

              The truth is it takes hard work, an initial investment to cover costs, and a core team to help you manage the outsourcers. Most of all it takes time. It's the only way you can truly scale the thing to some meaningful amount of money.
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              • Profile picture of the author gotti3636
                Originally Posted by TryBPO View Post

                I agree that it is possible to make good a good income from niche AdSense sites even with all of Google's recent changes. What tends to irk me most however, are the claims that it is "so easy" or "everything can just be outsourced". Also, the dollar amounts are very inflated from most gurus.

                The truth is it takes hard work, an initial investment to cover costs, and a core team to help you manage the outsourcers. Most of all it takes time. It's the only way you can truly scale the thing to some meaningful amount of money.
                That is exactly what I have said throughout the thread. It takes an investment if you are not willing or do not know how to do the work yourself. Outsourcing is great but it is not free! I never said that doing the work was easy, I am saying that outsourcing the work is easy I found all of my workers right here on the Warrior Forum and all I do is check up on them every so often to make sure things are being taken care of.

                I am not selling any products based on this method. It is just something I thought I would share.
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                • Profile picture of the author TryBPO
                  Originally Posted by gotti3636 View Post

                  That is exactly what I have said throughout the thread. It takes an investment if you are not willing or do not know how to do the work yourself. Outsourcing is great but it is not free! I never said that doing the work was easy, I am saying that outsourcing the work is easy I found all of my workers right here on the Warrior Forum and all I do is check up on them every so often to make sure things are being taken care of.

                  I am not selling any products based on this method. It is just something I thought I would share.
                  How do control access to the sites? With too many hands on everything, AdSense codes could easily be changed with out your knowledge. An unscrupulous outsourced worker could do some real damage with the wrong access.

                  You've said before you buy the domains and that's it -- what sort of QA process do you have to prevent yourself from getting screwed?

                  I only ask because a major part of my time goes into this. The process is pretty straight forward, but the way I track things and QA them, well now that's something that could be sold! With the amount of sites you have you must have run into a few failures or mistakes. What did you do?
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                  • Profile picture of the author gotti3636
                    Originally Posted by TryBPO View Post

                    How do control access to the sites? With too many hands on everything, AdSense codes could easily be changed with out your knowledge. An unscrupulous outsourced worker could do some real damage with the wrong access.

                    You've said before you buy the domains and that's it -- what sort of QA process do you have to prevent yourself from getting screwed?

                    I only ask because a major part of my time goes into this. The process is pretty straight forward, but the way I track things and QA them, well now that's something that could be sold! With the amount of sites you have you must have run into a few failures or mistakes. What did you do?
                    I give them access to the hosting account so they do all of the changes themselves. Only the website creator has access to this, my SEO guys don't.

                    To find my workers, I just gave them all a bit of a test run. I got a few different people to build me websites and then decided on who I liked the best. This was the same when finding my SEO team, I simply trialed different services that were on offer and then chose the best and made a long term deal with them.

                    There is absolutely nothing stopping him from changing all of the adsense codes but why would he? I pay him nicely (and I give him a bonus each month) and I can just as easily stop doing business with him and change all the adsense codes back myself if something like that happens. It is a lose-lose situation if he does anything like that which is why it doesn't happen! I own the domain names so there is no point in him trying to steal the websites as I will always have ownership of the domain!

                    I also have everything backed up so if something happens I can restore it all back to my own adsense codes.

                    I don't think a Q&A session is good enough to pick your workers. The best way is to actually see them at work and then decide based on the quality of their work You might need to throw some money around at the start while you trial some potential workers but it will all be worth it in the end.

                    I have never had any problems with my workers. We talk on a regular basis and I pay them well so they always try to keep me happy so I keep paying them
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                    • Profile picture of the author Dellco
                      From personal experience, it is NOT easy to get a small, thin MFA with a few pages earning $3 a day. Unless your CTR is high, which is risky. I'd be worried whether Google will flag me, or my workers are clicking my ads.

                      $3 a day is almost $100 a month per site, that is what you are saying. Are you telling us, each or most of your sites are making $3 or more a day?

                      Unbelievable, to be honest.

                      You have to be ranked number 1 for hundreds of high paying keywords and with high CTR to make that amount EVERYDAY. And to achieve it all in just a few months. It does not add up, that's all.
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                      • Profile picture of the author gotti3636
                        Originally Posted by Dellco View Post

                        From personal experience, it is NOT easy to get a small, thin MFA with a few pages earning $3 a day. Unless your CTR is high, which is risky. I'd be worried whether Google will flag me, or my workers are clicking my ads.

                        $3 a day is almost $100 a month per site, that is what you are saying. Are you telling us, each or most of your sites are making $3 or more a day?

                        Unbelievable, to be honest.

                        You have to be ranked number 1 for hundreds of high paying keywords and with high CTR to make that amount EVERYDAY. And to achieve it all in just a few months. It does not add up, that's all.
                        Not all of them are making that much, $3/day is just the average. Some make hardly anything and others make $10-$20/day (these were more competitive to rank for). I have been paid by Google each and evey month and as far as I know, none of my websites have been flagged or are being inspected.
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                        • Profile picture of the author Dellco
                          Originally Posted by gotti3636 View Post

                          Not all of them are making that much, $3/day is just the average. Some make hardly anything and others make $10-$20/day (these were more competitive to rank for). I have been paid by Google each and evey month and as far as I know, none of my websites have been flagged or are being inspected.
                          Well, whoever you are using, they are the best. Be it the site creation (on site SEO) to the off-site SEO. They know what they are doing.

                          I'm just surprised they haven't gone off to do their own thing and make more money themselves.
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                          • Profile picture of the author TryBPO
                            Originally Posted by Dellco View Post

                            I'm just surprised they haven't gone off to do their own thing and make more money themselves.
                            Exactly! Maybe they already have. Time to check you AdSense codes on all pages, Andrew. With so many hands on your sites, someone is bound to try and get sneaky.
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  • Profile picture of the author alina albert
    It Sound good and nice tips to earn money.
    I will try to follow this.
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  • Profile picture of the author MMMConsulting
    This is such an inspirational thread, and do not see why its not possible to make this much in a matter of months, its the same as taking action either way, if you have 0 funds, then creating 3 websites a day yourself with on page seo done, and a few backlinks will do a decent job. The route Andrew has taken is one of outsourcing, which is easier and quicker to get the job done, if you have the money. The work is done by people who specialize in their own areas, such as SEO, website creation, you hire these peopl to do the job, and they will! If you want to spend, then you will get results!
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  • Profile picture of the author mjMONEY
    Can anyone recommend any warriors who could do such SEO services? Thanks!

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  • Profile picture of the author veracity
    Thank you for this great thread gotti3636.

    I have to admit I do wish you'd reveal your sources, but I understand that you cannot

    May I ask though roughly how much you have spent having these sites developed and SEO optimized?

    Cheers
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    • Profile picture of the author Brendan Mace
      Originally Posted by veracity View Post

      Thank you for this great thread gotti3636.

      I have to admit I do wish you'd reveal your sources, but I understand that you cannot

      May I ask though roughly how much you have spent having these sites developed and SEO optimized?

      Cheers
      He does mention in the thread approximately how much he spends per website. I think it was around 90 dollars I believe.

      And it's not so much WHO he outsources to. It's more of a question about what TASKS he outsources.

      I could get hundreds of fillipinos to do the same tasks... if I knew what the heck they were.

      As mentioned earlier, this is an inspirational story... but nothing more. The true value would be knowing what needs to be done to create a successful website.

      Although the OP could spend 90$ to create a successful website. A noob could spend over a thousand dollars, and receive worse results....

      Please do not believe the BS that 'anyone' can make $100+

      The title should be: anyone 'who knows what they're doing' should be able to do this....

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    Congratz. Keep up the good work
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  • Profile picture of the author dagaul101
    Nice you are able to generate $100 a day from Adsense, but ofcourse rather than just trusting the workers making the site, it would be a good idea to find out how they did it, so you can do it yourself and branch into other niches if you want to
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    • Profile picture of the author Brendan Mace
      Originally Posted by dagaul101 View Post

      Nice you are able to generate $100 a day from Adsense, but ofcourse rather than just trusting the workers making the site, it would be a good idea to find out how they did it, so you can do it yourself and branch into other niches if you want to
      He DOES know how to do it himself. He's just not sharing what it is that he's outsourcing.

      Basically the OP is saying that...

      for 90$ I can outsource x, y and z to a bunch of cheap workers
      and as a result, I can make a KILLER ROI

      BUT.... I won't tell you what x, y and z are....
      don't worry though, 'anybody' should be able
      to figure it out.

      not sharing your secrets is fair enough. Not everyone is comfortable with giving away their methods to success. But the title becomes a little misleading. This thread is nothing more than a bragfest...
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      • Profile picture of the author mmsearch
        Originally Posted by co2 View Post

        He DOES know how to do it himself. He's just not sharing what it is that he's outsourcing.

        Basically the OP is saying that...

        for 90$ I can outsource x, y and z to a bunch of cheap workers
        and as a result, I can make a KILLER ROI

        BUT.... I won't tell you what x, y and z are....
        don't worry though, 'anybody' should be able
        to figure it out.

        not sharing your secrets is fair enough. Not everyone is comfortable with giving away their methods to success. But the title becomes a little misleading. This thread is nothing more than a bragfest...
        Pretty easy to figure out - he gives enough information to pretty much copy what he did.
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      • Profile picture of the author jerytohn
        Originally Posted by co2 View Post

        He DOES know how to do it himself. He's just not sharing what it is that he's outsourcing.

        Basically the OP is saying that...

        for 90$ I can outsource x, y and z to a bunch of cheap workers
        and as a result, I can make a KILLER ROI

        BUT.... I won't tell you what x, y and z are....
        don't worry though, 'anybody' should be able
        to figure it out.

        not sharing your secrets is fair enough. Not everyone is comfortable with giving away their methods to success. But the title becomes a little misleading. This thread is nothing more than a bragfest...

        x = Outsource keyword research and website building to a team

        y = Buy domain names and hosting for the people in step "x"

        z = Outsource SEO to top half of Google Page One to another team
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        • Profile picture of the author Brendan Mace
          Originally Posted by jerytohn View Post

          x = Outsource keyword research and website building to a team

          y = Buy domain names and hosting for the people in step "x"

          z = Outsource SEO to top half of Google Page One to another team
          alright. Since it sounds like you know how to do it. Explain to me how you spend 50$ on SEO and get your website ranked.

          You make it sound soooo simple. But there are about a million and one SEO tactics to choose from. And picking the right ones is not that easy. Especially on such a small budget.

          Btw, I noticed in the warriors for high section there was such an seo group that you speak of. Someone was willing to get your site ranked.... But the price was $299 NOT $50.

          It's not that simple. You do need to know what you're doing to get that ROI. The OP says that 'anyone' can do it, when this is clearly not the case.

          I have no idea what your point is...

          I could easily make the ridiculous claim that I could make 1000 dollars a day by building website for 100$

          by saying

          x- keyword research
          y- domains and hosting
          z- seo

          but that doesn't make it easy or accurate.

          there's a lot more to building an internet business than the vague steps made in this thread.

          - the op is unwilling (or unable) to say what they are.

          - and you just seem ignorant.
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          • Profile picture of the author jerytohn
            Originally Posted by co2 View Post

            alright. Since it sounds like you know how to do it. Explain to me how you spend 50$ on SEO and get your website ranked.
            Hey, don't take it so personally.

            If the keyword research had been done properly, then an exact match domain can quite easily attain page one with only a few backlinks.

            I made a couple of sites just last week and some are already on page one with about 15 manual backlinks. Some could be much harder, though.
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            • Profile picture of the author Brendan Mace
              Originally Posted by jerytohn View Post

              Hey, don't take it so personally.

              If the keyword research had been done properly, then an exact match domain can quite easily attain page one with only a few backlinks.

              I made a couple of sites just last week and some are already on page one with about 15 manual backlinks. Some could be much harder, though.
              I agree with you that keyword research makes it a lot easier. But you also have to make sure that the keywords you choose have commercial intent. And it is near impossible to find a 'buying keyword' that you can easily rank for with a few backlinks.

              As far as the personal thing goes. I just don't understand the positive feedback for this post.

              If you actually read what the OP has said throughout.

              He mention that

              1. these sites are making $100 per day

              2. he outsourced all of the work

              3. he gave the outsourced workers specific tasks based on his seo knowledge.

              In other words, he's not hiring a packaged service for seo. <--- Despite what some people have interpreted.

              Basically he knows what works and has given those specific tasks to individuals at cheap rates <------ absolutely brilliant.

              The OP admits that he has given specific tasks to outsourced workers. But he will not reveal what those tasks are.... as I said before fair enough.

              The part that's ridiculous though, is that he claims 'anyone' can do it.

              Ya kinda need to know what to do before you can actually be expected to do it.

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              Can 100$ per day be achieved through setting up niche sites .... yes

              can it be done with this budget ... probably

              has the OP revealed anything of value whatsoever ... no

              what is the point of this thread ... you tell me
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  • Profile picture of the author jmackenzie008
    Its inspire me to work hard to achieve my goal thanks for sharing it
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    Am very happy for the way you talk of your site , am doing my fist site now s alotwill follow your advice thanks alot
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  • Profile picture of the author Adsman68
    It is the norm if the keywords are EMD's and the competition is minimal. Add to that a decent exact search volume and CPC and your in business. These keywords can be found. Im doing exactly what the OP is doing but i do choose my own keywords as its something i seem to be quite good at. I hate the site build and off-page SEO so i outsource it all.
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  • Profile picture of the author TryBPO
    Our approach is very similar and our costs are around $35 - $40 per site. People have asked us if we'd build the sites for them, but why would we do that? What value do I get in you paying me $50 to create a site that costs me around $40? Sure, I have 20% margin in there, but it's not even close to be worth the hassle. Not to mention the fact that if I build the site, wait around 4-5 months and then sell it, I can get $120 - $150 for the site.

    Unfortunately, it just doesn't make sense. Either:

    A) I have to charge you too much to make it worth your while (but worth MY while) for the revenue you may or may not receive (And you're better off buying it from me once the revenue is proven)

    or

    B) I sell myself short working on your sites when I could have just continued creating them and keeping them as MY sites.

    Be wary of ANYONE selling sites like this that can't answer those two questions. We considered a WSO to create these sites the same way we do it now for other but, honestly, we'd rather just keep them for ourselves and can't see a way to make it make sense for both ourselves and a potential buyer.

    That being said, we do lay out our strategy and revenue pretty clearly for others to follow...
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  • Profile picture of the author Franksol
    You did not spend a single cent to do seo for your sites at all? How much capital did it take you to start this?
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  • Profile picture of the author MMMConsulting
    This can be achieved daily, it just takes research, and knowing who to outsource too, the OP has done well to reach this figure in a matter of months, I genuinely believe it is possible if you take action and just do it, there are outsourcers on this forum which say they can guarantee you an adsense website which can make a $1 per day, so I dont see how without a bit of research you cannot reach these figures, I have also done alot of keyword research in competitive niches, with low competition keywords however, and I have analyzed them well enough to know where I will be ranking per keyword, its all about the keywords, if you know your stuff, I dont see why you cant be successful with adsense.

    The OP has also stated how it was all done, he found workers on this forum to create websites, and to perform SEO, he also stated that he tested a few outsourcers before going with the one he chose, so its a matter of testing and tweaking, till you find the right people. This thread may sound like bragging, but its a good way to show people, when you spend money wisely with good research, it will pay off, some people do not like to go and research and find information themselves, and have fear within them, that they will fail by paying outsourcers, you have to take those doubts out of your mind, do the research, find the right people, and then go from there, money well invested, will always pay back, as long as the research is done beforehand.

    Just my 2 cents input!
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  • Profile picture of the author cpaking
    andrew, great post.. what I have learned is odesk is friggen phenomenal. I have started this a long tine ago. with odesk. I hace been able to get articles for 50c-70c a piece and well researched and well written. odesk and a few other places. if anyone wants to build a network. I would be happy to set up keywords.
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  • Profile picture of the author mmsearch
    Let's also not forget to mention that the sites the op purchased- even with the outsourcing of the SEO work- it still took a couple of months for his sites to achieve good rankings/income. It did not happen overnight.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bryan V
    Originally Posted by strategic seo services View Post

    May I ask where you found your reliable workers?

    Gotti said he found them on warriorforum in the for hire section.
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  • Profile picture of the author siwell16
    I love hearing stories like this! Just when you start to lose hope someone makes a break through!

    Awesome Job!
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    • Profile picture of the author mondays
      Originally Posted by siwell16 View Post

      I love hearing stories like this! Just when you start to lose hope someone makes a break through!

      Awesome Job!
      I would rather call them ""fairy tales" instead of stories.
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  • Profile picture of the author TryBPO
    If you're interested in finding good content writers, we've got the process we use to qualify and order content on Fiverr laid out here:

    Harnessing The Value Of Five Dollars

    Additionally, as a bonus for our subscribers, we've got a mini-report where we lay out the current Fiverr content writers we use, why we use them, and give you multiple examples of their work. Additionally, we give you the templates we use to order that content to be VERY clear to the writers and to ensure a high chance of success on the articles. It's in a PDF and I'll be sending it to subscribers in their first week of signing up!
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  • Profile picture of the author ZaneZenMaster
    Awesome Adsense results!!!
    I don't usually use Adsense, because it seems as if you need a huge load of traffic to be successful with it but I don't know for sure, any advise?
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  • Profile picture of the author TryBPO
    You need extremely heavy traffic if your traffic isn't targeted. For example, if you run a forum or blog around a wide variety of topics, you might end up having an extremely low CTR. If you have an extremely low CTR, you're going to need heavy traffic to make up the difference.

    If your sites are categorized around a particular niche, you'll notice that your CTR is much higher because all of your traffic is targeted/related. If it's all targeted/related it's more likely your ads are going to be closely related to your content which will give your readers more of what they want or are looking for, specifically.
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    • Profile picture of the author bitriot
      I have the capital to set up a fully outsourced situation and it really appeals to me. That said, I am not sure about outsourcing keyword research and off site SEO. I am good at making sites so that is something I can handle myself.

      Where / what do you guys look for as far as research and seo when setting up a fully outsourced system?
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  • Profile picture of the author TryBPO
    Our SEO needs are fairly limited as (someone else mentioned) we've focused on creating more sites with less seo up to this point. Maybe someone else can speak better to that.

    We're in the same boat as you when it comes to KW research. Right now, my partner and I trade off weeks and do the research ourselves. We've been putting together a plan that will allow almost all of the work to be done by the crew, with final decisions still made by one of us, but we've haven't quite finalized or implemented the ideas yet and so are hesitant to release it.

    As soon as we've tried it out and seem to have it working (4-6 weeks) we should be able to better explain how it's working for us. The basic idea is to have pre-planned general topics to research, guidelines to follow using Market Samurai, and then a numbering system that rates the competition based on several factors. We can then review their final choices and give approval for those we want to go with.
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    • Profile picture of the author bitriot
      That sounds pretty sharp. I do KW research in MS myself but I am a bit too new to have a lot of faith in my ability. I have like 2 MFA sites earning and about 7 floundering. Mostly because they are not on page 1, but the question is did I pick too hard of a niche or am I just terrible at link building? :]
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      • Profile picture of the author MMMConsulting
        Originally Posted by bitriot View Post

        That sounds pretty sharp. I do KW research in MS myself but I am a bit too new to have a lot of faith in my ability. I have like 2 MFA sites earning and about 7 floundering. Mostly because they are not on page 1, but the question is did I pick too hard of a niche or am I just terrible at link building? :]
        If you have done your keywords research properly, and have MFA sites which have a monthly search amount of 1000-3000 etc, with an EMD, it should not be too hard to get it ranking, just takes a few back links, and good on page SEO, however, check your competition on the first page, and see how well they have their websites optimized, and try to make yours as good, or even better then theirs, and results should start climbing, add a few high PR backlinks too, and the results should slowly start happening.

        Hope this helps!
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  • Profile picture of the author giseo
    thanks for the share.
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  • Profile picture of the author cdonne08
    how do you add backlinks?
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  • Profile picture of the author Adsman68
    Andrew,

    Any updates on your progress ?

    Number of sites ? Monthly income ? Etc
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  • Profile picture of the author WealthWithin
    Can we please let this thread die?

    I don't think OP cares anymore. And if you've done any micro-nice sites, you'll realize these numbers don't add up.
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    • Profile picture of the author jerytohn
      Originally Posted by WealthWithin View Post

      Can we please let this thread die?

      I don't think OP cares anymore. And if you've done any micro-nice sites, you'll realize these numbers don't add up.
      What kind of micro niche sites have you done?
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    • Profile picture of the author Brendan Mace
      Originally Posted by WealthWithin View Post

      Can we please let this thread die?

      I don't think OP cares anymore. And if you've done any micro-nice sites, you'll realize these numbers don't add up.
      Could not agree more!
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  • Profile picture of the author COBSolutions
    Quite true, micro sites can come under the radar of google anytime as they dont offer any value to the visitors, what google needs you to do is, build micro niche sites (yes!) and then outgrow from their, start building other keywords related to that niche on the same site, make it an authority from their onwards for that niche, this sounds better and goes down well will google as well as the visitors as they find more interesting articles to read and stay on the site, improves your bounce rate which will boost your adsense or affiliate conversions.
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