The notion of building 50+ sites for Adsense is Easy - HOGWASH!

by ellers
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Often, I have come across posts that suggest that one way to make money with IM is to build 30 - 100 websites and then to add Adsense to it where you earn any where from .10 to 2.00+ a day per site. The strategy is to make a little, off a lot of websites which adds up to a nice chunk of change at the end of the month. Sounds simple right? The only thing you have to do is do keyword research, update the sight and voila! you have made it in IM.

The reality is, it's not simple and it takes...time to develop these websites. Here's the rub, you can build a restaurant in the middle of a desert but if there is no traffic to your site, you are not going to get any clicks to your site. The problems I have come up with this strategy is, you have to develop relevant content, develop the website, update it, while trying to bring in traffic.

I started creating 30 plus websites through some free websites such as blogspot and some paid domains. I did the keyword research but it takes some time developing the website and content for each website. I even paid for some content, some of which were the regurgitated content you pay for $5 and other sites, I wrote the content myself. BUT, you have to update these site daily in order to establish some presence on the search engines.

The reality, of the 50+ websites I have up and running, only 5 of these websites get any serious traffic and therefore profits, while more than 80% of these sites get very few traffic, if at all. The reason is because the few websites that are working I'm getting the traffic due to...I spend the most time and energy with these websites in terms of content which leads to traffic, which leads to $$$.

I would NOT buy any sites that sell content or pulls in content from other websites because in the end, Google WILL SLAP YOUR SITE, if you have the same content as some other site. I have tried more times than not, to find the perfect software that automatically pulls in content from other sites and then scramble the content and I have paid A LOT of money for fresh content on a daily basis for a keyword, and most of it, is junk and/or copied stuff from the Internet. I have even had quite a few sites get banned from Google because they were pulling the exact content from another website. Also, some of these software, can't update the format of these websites and so you have to go back each day and clean up the software, which I probable could have saved myself time by creating the content myself.

The point of this discussion is, if you want to maximize the concept of building websites for Adsense or for other promotions, take the time to build each site, maybe two or five, and really maximize those sites. The ones that work, keep building and then add another site to work on. Over time, you will have the 30+ websites that generate your Adsense or sales but it does not happen in a week or months. It takes anywhere from 1 - 3 months before you will know if your site will be profitable. Above all though, it takes TIME and ENERGY to create a profitable website, even if it is for Adsense. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A FREE LUNCH...you gota work for it!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Grant
    There's a lot of misinformation from this post.

    -Duplicate content is not the same as syndicated content.
    -It's 150% your fault for getting crap content you paid for. I pay $5 for 500 word articles from an American published author.
    -Everyone familiar with adsense knows that no matter what you do, some simply won't work out.
    -You do not have to frequently add new content to your site for the SEs.
    -Google slap is in reference to Adwords.
    -Pulling "exact content" from a site will not get your site banned. Again, welcome to the world of syndicated content.
    -If 80% of your sites aren't winners, then the fault is on you for terrible keyword research.

    I'm about to break $10k/mo from 15 Adsense sites. It's really, really not difficult.
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    • Profile picture of the author tonio79
      mgtarheels - thats impressive stuff! 10k a month from adsense.
      You obviously know your stuff.

      If you want to pass on any tips then please feel free to shove some my way!

      Good work!

      Tonio
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    • Profile picture of the author Statesman
      Originally Posted by mgtarheels View Post

      There's a lot of misinformation from this post.

      I pay $5 for 500 word articles from an American published author.
      Where is a good place to find such an author?
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    • Profile picture of the author jimotman
      Originally Posted by mgtarheels View Post

      There's a lot of misinformation from this post.

      -Duplicate content is not the same as syndicated content.
      -It's 150% your fault for getting crap content you paid for. I pay $5 for 500 word articles from an American published author.
      -Everyone familiar with adsense knows that no matter what you do, some simply won't work out.
      -You do not have to frequently add new content to your site for the SEs.
      -Google slap is in reference to Adwords.
      -Pulling "exact content" from a site will not get your site banned. Again, welcome to the world of syndicated content.
      -If 80% of your sites aren't winners, then the fault is on you for terrible keyword research.

      I'm about to break $10k/mo from 15 Adsense sites. It's really, really not difficult.
      hi mgtarheels, can you please explain the difference between duplicate and syndicated content? thanks very much
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      • Profile picture of the author dftrus
        I've found it also helps a lot to build Adsense sites around higher paying keywords. There's a big difference in the revenue from ten clicks on a 10 cent adword, versus ten clicks on a $1 keyword.

        The work you put into getting a site up, building content and backlinks, and creating traffic to the two examples above are exactly the same. So choose the Adsense keywords your site will target wisely, and you'll make more money from the beginning. :>)
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  • Profile picture of the author GoGetta
    Yep, it does take a little work, but thats the same with anything online.

    However,

    Liek mgtarheels says above, content does not have to be updated for good rankings. I have sites sat at number 1, and have been for over a year and I have not added content to them since I first built them.

    I would put more effort on backlinks than updating content, but everyone is different. I do have sites that I update with new content regularly but that is to gain more SE positions, not for increasing my rank for keywords I already rank for.

    Also, try some different monetisation options. Some sites could earn more through other ways other than adsense. Amazon? Clickbank? CJ?

    GoGetta
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  • Profile picture of the author vilnwv
    I have to agree with GoGetta, spend more time on backlinking than updating. The way I work my sites is spend one who week working on content and set up before going live with them. Then I do social bookmarking and article writing for about a month. Then I outsource backlinking. And honestly I think if you go with the strategy of creating mass Adsense sites it is on to be the luck of the draw you will have winners and losers. If you do not outsource it all you just can not keep up with that many sites. I figure you are better off creating less sites of higher quality.
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    Free lunches are only available at the local soup kitchen.

    But as an Internet Marketer, you must find a need and provide solutions to answer that need.

    Most of the more successful people I know online got started offering services, and then they branched into other things like product creation, adsense sites, etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author mediasurgeons
    Whether it is easy or not is purely subjective.

    For many in this forum it would not be at all difficult to knock up 50 ten page websites, hire a few backlinkers and get them all ranked but for others this would be extremely difficult.

    I genuinely still can't understand why people have a problem with "difficult". I'm not having a dig at anyone in this thread because there has been some extremely valid points but look, 50 websites is going to cost you $500 in domain names and maybe $100 on top for hosting.

    In my opinion there is nothing else out there that easier to do than this that can bring in a substantial income.

    The guy who runs the chinese across the road has to pay delivery drivers, chefs, rent and god knows what else and he earns much less than $100 a day (I'm going on the $2 a day per site rule here). Not only that but he still has to work day in day out.

    Sure it might take you 6 months to get your feet wet with multiple sites but after that you don't need to worry about it again.

    Yes there is a learning curve involved and that can be difficult to overcome.

    Internet Marketing is a hard way to make an easy living...
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  • Profile picture of the author ellers
    great input everyone. i'm not bashing adsense i just think there are far more posts that suggest it's simple. the concept sounds easy but the execution is a bit more complex; and i'm not talking about rocket science.
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    • Profile picture of the author HaydenR
      Originally Posted by ellers View Post

      great input everyone. i'm not bashing adsense i just think there are far more posts that suggest it's simple. the concept sounds easy but the execution is a bit more complex; and i'm not talking about rocket science.
      Lol.. that's because half of them are trying to sell you on their "Make Money with Adsense eBook".. You got to see through the marketing hype that's in almost every WSO and look at the reality of the situation..
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      • Profile picture of the author mojo13
        I agree with the OP.

        If I see another "If you could make $1/day per site, how many sites would you make" WSO's, I might vomit.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    What about maintenance?

    You cant have 50+ sites then leave them. The time of profitable autoblogs is over, as far as i know. I am constantly building links and do SEO on some existing sites. It can be a B*TCH already for one single site, eg. featuring different product/pages i want to rank.

    Sometimes i WISH i had one single site, ONE keyword and that'll be it.

    But how on earth would you do continuous maintenance, SEO etc. for 50, 100, 300+ sites? Then rather focus on one or two sites, and do a GOOD job with them and rank them to #1.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Williamson
    I couldn't agree more with mgtarheels; people say Adsense is easy because it has the potential to be easy, if that makes sense. For me personally, it is extremely easy. It's all about the systems you put in place in/for your business. I have refined my systems to where they are almost as streamlined as humanly possible - from keyword research to domains to site building to backlinks, etc.... Contrary to your belief, it really doesn't take much time at all to set up a site and put unique content on it, even if you write it yourself. Jason Fladlien has a product that teaches how to write articles extremely quickly, in 7 min. or so. If you pre-load your theme and plugins in your FTP then they're already there when you set up your site, and if you know what you're doing with the on-page SEO, you can completely set up the site in under 20 min. (10 or so for the site setup and 7 or so for the article) - this is 1 of the many examples of a specific system I use that is refined and implemented to expedite the entire process. Things like article writing (if you are 'paying a lot' for bad content, then you are using the wrong sources; I, like mgtarheels, get high-quality native English content for $1 per 100 words.), on page SEO, and backlinks would be subsystems of your entire system. I haven't even mentioned the fact that you can outsource any system, and if it's refined and streamlined enough, it'll be cheap - an example of this for me would be backlinks. I have the few, select, quality sources that I use for backlinks and I simply outsource it. Like mgtarheels said, your post is misinformative in many ways that he mentioned, but it's also somewhat misleading. Although I agree that most product sellers are trying to push the idea that the Adsense process is super easy just so you'll buy their product, it does have the potential to be easy, so you can't generalize and say that it's simply not true. As I said, it can be easy if you spend the time to make it easy. I'm almost at the point where my entire system, the complete process from A to Z, is completely hands-free. I literally don't have to do anything, but I choose to. I have a database full of thousands of profitable keywords, so I simply pick one and tell my project manager, and he starts the 'system,' and I just sit back and oversee things. If I wanted to, I could go on vacation and sit on the beach every day for an entire month without looking at a computer, and my business would still run itself. I say that not to brag but to show you that once you have the proper systems in place, it can be extremely easy. Granted, you'll probably want to develop and refine the system yourself first, which is what I did. And if I wanted to (which I do sometimes) I could still simply implement the whole system with my own 2 hands without outsourcing (which is what I did in the beginning), and it would still be 'easy' because I have taken the time to refine almost every microscopic aspect of the entire process. If you keep that mindset from the start, you'll have a great system in place in no time.

    If a complete newbie reads your post, they might say "Ok so I'm definitely not doing Adsense because it's so difficult," which is utterly false. If it's too hard, you are making it too hard. If it's easy, as it is for some of us, we made it easy. Do not get discouraged. Just keep refining and simplifying things. And aside from everything, remember Pareto's Law - 80% of the output comes from 20% of the input.
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  • Profile picture of the author lukyjoe
    Originally Posted by ellers View Post

    Often, I have come across posts that suggest that one way to make money with IM is to build 30 - 100 websites and then to add Adsense to it where you earn any where from .10 to 2.00+ a day per site. The strategy is to make a little, off a lot of websites which adds up to a nice chunk of change at the end of the month. Sounds simple right? The only thing you have to do is do keyword research, update the sight and voila! you have made it in IM.

    The reality is, it's not simple and it takes...time to develop these websites. Here's the rub, you can build a restaurant in the middle of a desert but if there is no traffic to your site, you are not going to get any clicks to your site. The problems I have come up with this strategy is, you have to develop relevant content, develop the website, update it, while trying to bring in traffic.

    I started creating 30 plus websites through some free websites such as blogspot and some paid domains. I did the keyword research but it takes some time developing the website and content for each website. I even paid for some content, some of which were the regurgitated content you pay for $5 and other sites, I wrote the content myself. BUT, you have to update these site daily in order to establish some presence on the search engines.

    The reality, of the 50+ websites I have up and running, only 5 of these websites get any serious traffic and therefore profits, while more than 80% of these sites get very few traffic, if at all. The reason is because the few websites that are working I'm getting the traffic due to...I spend the most time and energy with these websites in terms of content which leads to traffic, which leads to $$$.

    I would NOT buy any sites that sell content or pulls in content from other websites because in the end, Google WILL SLAP YOUR SITE, if you have the same content as some other site. I have tried more times than not, to find the perfect software that automatically pulls in content from other sites and then scramble the content and I have paid A LOT of money for fresh content on a daily basis for a keyword, and most of it, is junk and/or copied stuff from the Internet. I have even had quite a few sites get banned from Google because they were pulling the exact content from another website. Also, some of these software, can't update the format of these websites and so you have to go back each day and clean up the software, which I probable could have saved myself time by creating the content myself.

    The point of this discussion is, if you want to maximize the concept of building websites for Adsense or for other promotions, take the time to build each site, maybe two or five, and really maximize those sites. The ones that work, keep building and then add another site to work on. Over time, you will have the 30+ websites that generate your Adsense or sales but it does not happen in a week or months. It takes anywhere from 1 - 3 months before you will know if your site will be profitable. Above all though, it takes TIME and ENERGY to create a profitable website, even if it is for Adsense. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A FREE LUNCH...you gota work for it!
    Here is a plan for you:
    Some of your points are right, but you need to change your way of viewing things.
    20% of your work will generate 80% of your income
    20% of your sites will be winners and 80% will be loosers
    20% of the traffic will generate 80% of the clicks...
    See, all you have to do is just accept it.
    build 10 sites, find/keep the 2 winners and flip the rest.

    You can easily sell all your 45 underperforming sites for a min of $50/ea. That will be over $2,250. build 10 quality sites each site with 20 quality articles ($10/article) Do the backlinking...2 of them will be winners. keep them and sell the other 8 (this time for at least $200/site).
    Rinse and repeat.
    You will be making good money in no time.
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