Google Sniper 2.0 - Problems with Keyword Research

Profile picture of the author mantrixx by mantrixx Posted: 03/15/2011
Hi all,

I find myself stuck on finding a suitable keyword meeting all the google sniper 2.0 criteria to build a sniper site with.
These are the criteria: at least 2k searches/month, less than 13k results when typing it in google with phrases, and being a buying keyword.
Considering the time invested, I find it worse than finding a needle in a heystack.
I invested in keyword sniper pro to find the long-tails that meet the criteria but so far no success.
I would appreciate some helpful advice from people more experienced, because I do know it is possible.

Greetings,
mantrixx
#google #keyword #problems #research #sniper

  • Profile picture of the author abbesnwk
    abbesnwk
    Originally Posted by mantrixx View Post
    Hi all,

    I find myself stuck on finding a suitable keyword meeting all the google sniper 2.0 criteria to build a sniper site with.
    These are the criteria: at least 2k searches/month, less than 13k results when typing it in google with phrases, and being a buying keyword.
    Considering the time invested, I find it worse than finding a needle in a heystack.
    I invested in keyword sniper pro to find the long-tails that meet the criteria but so far no success.
    I would appreciate some helpful advice from people more experienced, because I do know it is possible.

    Greetings,
    mantrixx
    I can't belive that you mates continue to buy that kind of crap.
  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    cooler1
    Originally Posted by ideaplans View Post
    I can't belive that you mates continue to buy that kind of crap.
    Crap? Ive read a lot of reviews on it and nearly all are positive. It does sound a bit too good to be true though, setting up sites in less than 2 hours and earning $300-600 on complete autopilot.
  • Profile picture of the author mantrixx
    mantrixx
    Originally Posted by ideaplans View Post
    I can't belive that you mates continue to buy that kind of crap.
    It's not crap because it offers good info, especially if you are not that advanced in IM.

    Still looking for some advice on the keyword research.
  • Profile picture of the author clint48
    clint48
    I don't have Google Sniper, but I do know that it has been out about a year or more. I can tell you this from experience it is not getting easier to rank for keywords, so maybe when the product was released it was easier to find keywords in the range you mentioned.

    A few years ago, most people didn't even know what a buying keyword was, but now almost everyone is looking for buying keywords and it's not going to get any easier in my opinion. Just get as close to the ranges as you can and start backlinking.

    Clint
  • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
    Richard Van
    less than 13k results when typing it in google with phrases, and being a buying keyword.
    You want less than 13k competing pages in serps? Why not just see what the first page are doing, these are the people you want to beat and compete with, not the other 12990.

    Besides, if you had two different keywords, both with 13k competing pages, that doesn't mean they are both easy to rank for.

    I have a keyword one of my sites ranks for with over 5 million competing pages, the competition is useless, I rank. I found a niche with only 4,000 competing pages this week I wouldn't stand a hope in hell of getting near the first page.

    The numbers don't mean much at all with competition, it's what they're doing and how well they're doing it, that's important.

    If you want advice on keyword research, look up Ed Dale and "The Challenge", it's free and there's an entire lesson on the proper way to do research and you get a free ten day trial of Market Samurai which has a module specifically to analyse competition.
  • Profile picture of the author droog
    droog
    Originally Posted by mantrixx View Post
    Hi all,

    I find myself stuck on finding a suitable keyword meeting all the google sniper 2.0 criteria to build a sniper site with.
    These are the criteria: at least 2k searches/month, less than 13k results when typing it in google with phrases, and being a buying keyword.
    Considering the time invested, I find it worse than finding a needle in a heystack.


    Greetings,
    mantrixx
    Google Sniper is not a bad product (bought the first but not the second) but you are totally accurate about the keyword criteria. I mentioned in another post about a year ago that if you can find those kind of keywords you don't need Google Sniper to make money with them! There would be dozens of ways to make $$$.

    It's a little like saying find a keyword phrase that has "I want to buy ____" in it, make sure it gets at least a thousand searches a day and nobody is competing for it. Just follow that and you'll make money with this system.
  • Profile picture of the author Wills
    Wills
    I should warn you that I tried the Google Sniper (version 1) a year or so, ago. It is not as easy as you might think, if you don't know what your doing.

    I found that I ended up spreading my efforts to far across to many sites, to quickly. Also, the keywords I targeted were not very good buying keywords and I didn't get much traffic from them. Even though I was top of the serps for a few of the sites.

    I am not saying that it won't work for you, but this 2-3 hours set up for a site, to make $300-600 on complete autopilot. Looks great on paper, but do not expect to be being this quickly.

    As for the keywords; there is a good guide you can get online for free, that was from a successful 'sniper'. I can't remember where I got it, but have a look about, as their a few guides that might help you.
  • Profile picture of the author alamest
    alamest
    The product is good and in that product they have already mentioned that this might not work for everyone and might for work someone..

    All depends on your market..what I will say is don't just stick with one niche and cried out that it is not working..try with atleast 5 different niche..split test the niche and see which on is working because I am sure plenty of people are making money with this product idea but all depends on the market and the optimization.

    And one my friend told you can have millions of competition but you will find out that only 50 or even 20 of people are properly optimize for the keyword.

    The number of competition will grow because of social networks and google now index the social networks update as well so in the million competition you will 50% of that page will be from social networks..

    So everything depends on testing and testing the market..

    I hope this helps.

    Thanks
    Alam
  • Profile picture of the author RichRecluse
    RichRecluse
    If you want to PM me the keyword you are interested in ranking for, I have at least 18 different keyword tools and will see what I can find.

    Michael Carey
  • Profile picture of the author Spiderpig
    Spiderpig
    I brought google sniper 2 primarily for the keyword research advice. Its something that I have a bit of trouble with too. I have 3 google sniper sites with only one ranking for my chosen keyword. From doing this I have noticed a few things... Firstly I wouldnt worry about the results in quotes too much, I aim for anything under about 100 000 searches, but more than that I take a look at the first ten results on the page without quotes..

    If I see a bunch of articles, yahoo answers,forum posts, squidoo lenses etc and no websites that look like they have any kind of authority I will take a shot at it.

    I also use market samurai for each keyword I am interested in working for, the SEO competition module I find very helpful, it will show you the number of backlinks, the page rank, if it has any edu or gov links pointing back to the site, whether or not there is on page optimization and the number of pages indexed in google for each site.

    I also use the allintitle and allinurl search syntax in google to see how many sites are actively optimizing there websites for a search term.

    I am only learning to, but this seems to work for me
  • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
    iAmNameLess
    Guys, if you would just put a little bit of effort into promoting your site, you would be fine.

    With the google sniper system, you spend more time on finding a keyword than anything else.
  • Profile picture of the author trev007
    trev007
    Yeah, with Google Sniper i am having exactly the same problem. I have tried several different niches and global searches are fine. Try typing into google (phrase Match) and you find thoudands of competing sites. OK our friend here says under 100,000 should be ok. I suppose we are hoping to beat 100,000 sites with our basic seo techniques?? Anyone add to that?

    Trevor.
  • Profile picture of the author John Williamson
    John Williamson
    It's a bit of an investment, but look into Keyword Sniper Pro 2.0 - I use it to find 'sniper' keywords for niche sites with great success.
  • Profile picture of the author InTheMaking
    InTheMaking
    I bought the google sniper 2.0, tried it out, and learned a valuable lesson lol

    The only info you should take on google sniper 2.0 is how to structure your on-page SEO, his rules (2k Searches, under 13k competition is bull) dont follow his rules..

    Theres so much to learn but your only going to learn by keep trying and finding out what works.
  • Profile picture of the author Amnesia
    Amnesia
    Same here. all these results are crap under 20k. I mean, something that makes sense
  • Profile picture of the author sellerdaddy
    sellerdaddy
    I bought this program a few months ago and I thought it was pretty good for being fairly new to this area. I agree totally about finding keywords. I spent many hours trying to find keywords that fit his criteria and could never do it. I gave up and just revisited it again and still no good. I could not understand the 13,000 competitor limit either. I found several keywords with competition from 30,000 to 50,000 that I know I could easily rank well for and have decided to go for them. I'm just not sure how good of buying keywords they are.
  • Profile picture of the author trytolearnmore
    trytolearnmore
    GS teaches a very dangerous concept - find keywords with lots of searches and no competition. Not sure whether looking for an easy solution is the right way to go.

    And besides, the number of competing pages is BS.
  • Profile picture of the author keithneal
    keithneal
    Forget about anything but the top (I usually do 5) pages, if you think you can beat them, then you just found a keyword. And I'd stay away from domains like: example.com and go more towards pages like example.com/stuff/more_stuff/here_we_go.html
  • Profile picture of the author ahmar2
    ahmar2
    I also purchased Google sniper this month after reading tons of +ve reviews on multiple places. Well to be honest it is not a scam. I mean the techniques he uses are legit however the problem is is Keyword finding.

    Google sniper was launched in 2011 and back then things were lot easier. If you have watched all the sniping videos you can see in video 2 george himself finds a great keyword in weight loss( the most competing) niche. However now in 2012 it is impossible to do. The criteria of even 30k competitors is hard to find.

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