10'000 backlinks, really?

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I just want to put something out there... there are a lot of services that are offering 1000's of profile backlinks for everywhere between $35 - $100, all claiming to be the only one delivering what they say. I'm not trying to tell you that these services don't work, they do, I use them myself, but to get to my point...

If I buy a package of 10'000 backlinks to my website, how do I make sure they all count? I mean I always receive the report with the backlinks, but I never get them indexed... well some of them of course, but I mean wouldn't it be great to get let's say half of them indexed?

Any thaughts on this? Can I ping them all? What do I do?
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  • Profile picture of the author johan_malmo
    Originally Posted by canhdong90 View Post

    I ordered 1000 profiles backlinks, but just less than 20 indexed in 1 month!
    I know... quite annouting isn't it?

    Have you pinged any of them or you just let them go on their own?
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by canhdong90 View Post

      I use Pingy Alpha 2 to ping them, nearly 300, but the result is 20 so bad
      I'm afraid this is very typical of "bulk backlink packages".

      The thing is, they're almost always PR-0 non-context-relevant backlinks anyway, which are the lowest of the low, and something ike 10,000 of them (indexed!) are equivalent to one context-relevant, higher-PR backlink.

      Automated backlinks of the Xrumer type (which is the kind of software typically used by providers of these "services") are typically a recipe for frustration and disappointment. The providers of these services (who very often don't remain in business for too long anyway) get by with a huge succession of "new customers" and have very few returning sources of business.

      On a brighter note, however, context-relevant higher-PR backlinks can be far more useful and helpful than many people realise. It really is worth making the effort to identify relevant blogs that accept comments, and make thoughtful comments that add value to other people' sites and won't be "moderated". A persistent campaign of doing this can really start to move your site up the SERP's.

      This thread should be in the SEO Forum, really. Maybe a moderator will kindly move it, but if it just disappears, that'll be why.
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      • Profile picture of the author Derek Salfen
        Mass backlink packages are like that. Google ignores most of them.

        Have you tried Angela or Paul's packages?
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  • Profile picture of the author phowell23
    I personally believe in searching for high quality links and not worrying about quantity. The possibilities of them getting indexed are much higher. Also look for feedback from other Warriors to see if the links they are selling are getting indexed or not.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    most of those links are worthless and it's not really worth the effort of trying to 'boost' them - just spend the time on getting useful links. One good link is worth 10,000 bad ones anyway.
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    • Profile picture of the author theantihype
      Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

      most of those links are worthless and it's not really worth the effort of trying to 'boost' them - just spend the time on getting useful links. One good link is worth 10,000 bad ones anyway.
      there's only so many so called "valuable links" in one's niche that you can get... i wouldn't neglect link juice from profiles... each link has a purpose
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      • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
        Originally Posted by theantihype View Post

        there's only so many so called "valuable links" in one's niche that you can get... i wouldn't neglect link juice from profiles... each link has a purpose
        Not sure I agree with that. I've never run out of ways to get niche related links - ever.
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        • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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          Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

          Originally Posted by theantihype View Post

          there's only so many so called "valuable links" in one's niche that you can get... i wouldn't neglect link juice from profiles... each link has a purpose
          Not sure I agree with that. I've never run out of ways to get niche related links - ever.
          No indeed ... nor have I.

          There are always ways of producing niche-related links.

          I don't believe "profile links" have any link-juice to "neglect" that you can find without an electron microscope. You need about 10,000 of them to give you the link-juice of one decent blog comment. They're just not worth talking about. It's really "link-spam", not "backlinking", and it gets its just desserts. These things are the flotsam and jetsam of backlinking: even lower in value than article directory backlinks (and that's saying something).
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  • Profile picture of the author IcedSEO-CEO
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    John, less than 2% of the backlinks get indexed and that is even when pinged, I once bought a 30,000 profile backlink service and 12,000 blog comments and at the end of the week, about 2,000 backlinks showed up on my site and it did well.

    I normally use PingDevice for mass pinging my links.

    By the way, I don't spend $35 for 1,000 profile links or there about, at fiverr, you can buy 7,500 profile links for just $5 or even 10,000 comment backlinks for just $5. I have been using the services since Nov 2010 and I have been achieving quality rankings for better price.
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  • Profile picture of the author trishworks4u
    It's a pure #'s game and there's not a thing wrong with profile backlinks being a part of your linking strategy.

    notice I said "part". I have sites that I throw 2,000+ links at a day but you have to be consistent and have a diverse linking strategy for your sites. If it's all xrumer and all to your main page, not good. also, you have to have some sort of indexing system set up to work on getting your links indexed. I have over 300 sites dedicated to this alone.

    Backlinking is something that I didn't even begin to understand until I'd been in IM for several years and, even now, it's an ever- changing game that you have to stay on top of. I heard someone say recently that 95% of your time should be spent on backlinking activities and I think that's about right.
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  • Profile picture of the author AzzamS
    I second what Alexa stated although I have and depending on the situation used these type of services.

    Usually cost+time is the factor for most who purchase this service since many do not want to spend the time and money to find high PR related-content. But since one high valuable backlink is better then a many it would be worth the effort to outsource this work to someone and pay that extra cash to get it done if you can not find anyone to do it.

    On the flip-side of course I would not say that they are not valuable since I have ranked many competitive sites with this same method, however they were sites that were either old and had credibility due to PR already.
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  • Profile picture of the author BloggingPro
    Not that I'm trying to argue here, but with EMD's and low competition Xrumer style blasts can get you ranking solidly very quickly. I've done it for many websites. I don't even worry about index rate, because I know I have another blast coming up the next day.

    However, I will argue that these links are far from solid. They can disappear tomorrow and even more alerting is that Google will eventually discredit them, making them even more useless.

    They have their place, but only in low-competition niches in my opinion. The most powerful links a webmaster can currently get are what you call contextual links.

    These are links that are placed within a post of relevant content that is placed on a page that actually has high PR. If you can find links like that, especially if they are .gov's or .edu's and you've found the holy grail of backlinks.

    I do not care what all of the backlink builders want to tell you. A link placed within relevant content, that is relevant to the domain and exists on a high PR page is going to beat these damn near worthless links every time.

    The problem is that it would be nightmare expensive to find those links for every low-competition keyword you go after--thus the Xrumer style blasts can prove to be profitable. This should probably be in the SEO section as well...
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  • Profile picture of the author Adie
    I stopped ordering these stuffs and preferred to have a VA who can create 10 to 20 high quality backlinks daily from commenting Web2.0 and article submissions... Xrumer and Srapebox are not doing anything dramatic...
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  • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
    Profile links are pretty much worthless in my opinion. You can get 50,000 of them, and I can spend 30-45 minutes getting high quality backlinks and it would be better than your 50k that aren't ever going to be indexed.

    A lot of forum admins will remove these spam accounts. A lot of blog owners will eventualy filter out all the comments. Having a link indexed and THEN removed, IS BAD! Spend some time for high quality backlinks.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chris Sorrell
      There's some good high pr profile link services on here. A few hundred pr3-pr8 links with varied anchor text can give you a serious boost.
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