66 sites de-indexed - What would you do?

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Yesterday I experienced a sudden drop in traffic and income. Upon further research, I found that a good chunk of my portfolio ( 66 sites ) were suddenly de-indexed. They were spread across different registrars and hosts, but the adsense ID probably linked them together.

If you were in this situation, what would you do? I'm thinking about using 301 redirects and either pointing them to new sites, or affiliate links. ( Although I'm not sure how effective it would be on an affiliate link).

I'm not going to be interested in building 66 new sites. I may build a mega site with all kinds of different content on it ( like ehow ) and send the domain 301s to individual related pages on the new mega site. I may put my old content onto the new mega site.

Love to hear thoughts on how you would handle that. They were good sites, had good solid backlinks from a variety of sources, and the domains are all 2-10 years old. Hate to let all that hard work go to waste.
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  • Profile picture of the author lolmoney
    wow, this makes me think about removing adsense from my websites. I really don't make much from it anyway....

    This sounds like Googles abuse of power...
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    • Profile picture of the author Rita012
      This sounds like Googles abuse of power...
      yeah... they sort of have a monopoly going. One of the sites had a 6200 word article on it that people actually read. People spent a lot of time on the site. Another has been a 'go-to' site for years that students probably used as a resource for homework. Go figure....
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      • Profile picture of the author Chris Sweeney
        AHHHHH, I hate reading threads like this because it reminds me of how fragile one's IM business can be...it can just disappear overnight. I'd hate to have that happen to me. Though I don't think there's anything wrong with my sites (and I'm sure you didn't either), it still scares me to the point of where I even seriously debate selling all of my sites before they get de-indexed for no reason!

        Sorry for your loss, Rita. It's gotta hurt. Definitely keep the thread posted on any updates you may discover, i.e. why your sites were deindexed, etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    I would pick one of the sites & hammer the $hit out of it with high PR authority links.

    If that doesn't bring it back, nothing will.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rita012
      Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

      Are you 100% sure you are no longer indexed?
      Yes... 100% sure. And it happened to all these sites at the same time.

      Sorry for your loss, Rita. It's gotta hurt. Definitely keep the thread posted on any updates you may discover, i.e. why your sites were deindexed, etc.
      Thanks. I'll update once I have a plan.

      I still have a lot of sites that are still indexed. I'm really thinking about selling my indexed sites just to get the money out of them. But... a valuation of 10 months revenue in this market just doesn't make sense.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ian Varnava
    I'm sorry if you already answered this, but you're saying that none of the 66 sites show in Google with the site: command??
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    • Profile picture of the author Rita012
      I would pick one of the sites & hammer the out of it with high PR authority links.

      If that doesn't bring it back, nothing will.
      Not sure if more backlinks would take a site out of being de-indexed. It would probably move it up the SERPS if it were still indexed. But...

      I'm sorry if you already answered this, but you're saying that none of the 66 sites show in Google with the site: command??
      Correct. That's the first thing I checked when I noticed the drop across the board.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mohamed Ali
    When you check site:yoursite.com do you see any results .
    Also , are you by any chance located in UK ? and are you using google UK to check your rankings ? Because the Panda update began in UK this weekend . so if you sites show up after checking the site: command , you are experiencing the Google Panda update
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    • Profile picture of the author Rita012
      Originally Posted by Mohamed Ali View Post

      When you check site:yoursite.com do you see any results .
      Also , are you by any chance located in UK ? and are you using google UK to check your rankings ? Because the Panda update began in UK this weekend . so if you sites show up after checking the site: command , you are experiencing the Google Panda update
      No results. That's how I know they are de-indexed. Also checked using Is My Domain Indexed - The easiest way to check if your domain is indexed by Google! . I'm in the US.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mohamed Ali
        Originally Posted by Rita012 View Post

        No results.
        It is weird how aged domain with quality content get suddenly de-indexed .
        As for what you can do , well you can submit a revaluation request through google webmaster tools . ( Total waste of time IMO)

        OR
        you can buy a news domains ( different registrars , different IPs)
        301 Redirest from the old ones to the new ones
        Build backlinks to the OLD ones
        You will see your new sites ranking for your keywords and this time , monetize with CPA or anything else instead of adsense .
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    • Profile picture of the author alco
      Has the Panda updates in the UK finished now or is it still ongoing?

      Originally Posted by Mohamed Ali View Post

      When you check site:yoursite.com do you see any results .
      Also , are you by any chance located in UK ? and are you using google UK to check your rankings ? Because the Panda update began in UK this weekend . so if you sites show up after checking the site: command , you are experiencing the Google Panda update
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  • Profile picture of the author Ian Varnava
    I guess the only common element amongst them all is your AdSense ID as you said. I would try removing AdSense from a few (or all) of them completely, leaving no common element among them, and see if that does anything.

    If it helps, then find a different way to monetize that traffic instead of AdSense.

    Also, I wouldn't necessarily build one mega website combining topics from all of them... but maybe group similar niches together and build more than one authority sites.

    If I was in your position, I would get some more high PR links to some of them and give it time, before doing anything.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rita012
      @Ian - good point. Maybe a some niched megasites.

      @GeorgeR - I think it may be because I had adsense on the privacy policy page. Still trying to find a common thread on the sites that did get indexed vs. the ones that didn't. Like I said, they are across different hosting accounts and registrars.

      @ mohamed - I wish I could find something that converted as well as adsense. I just have no success with cpa offers. Are there certain offers that convert well for you?

      @mohamed and George - I have no messages on my adsense account saying there is an issue. My backlinking methods were pretty tame. No profile links, as that just screams spam to me.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    If you were in this situation, what would you do?
    Start new. If they're deindexed it basically means they are dead. You will get 10% of the traffic you once had, from bing and yahoo.

    And think over why they got de-indexed...there must be a reason.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    It is weird...
    No its really not. There must be significant reason WHY..and the reason must be even worse than "duplicate content". (Dupe content usually doesnt get you de-indexed) A site gets de-indexed if someone complains about spamming, for example. Or some other, significant violations of Google etc. TOS.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mohamed Ali
      Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

      No its really not. There must be significant reason WHY..and the reason must be even worse than "duplicate content". (Dupe content usually doesnt get you de-indexed) A site gets de-indexed if someone complains about spamming, for example. Or some other, significant violations of Google etc. TOS.
      The operator never mentioned the backlink strategies used for those sites .
      My guess would be irrelevant backlinks to those sites have been founded , but again that will need a manual review to get you deindexed . Also that will get you banned from Adsense as well....
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    Well it is *likely* that Google got tougher recently, but de-indexing because of Adsense on Privacy doesnt make sense.

    They would either disable your adsense account, OR, if you are lucky, warn you and give you a chance to fix the problem(s) on your site. But not DEINDEX.

    Reasons could be:

    You used twitter, facebook etc. to spam links, ONE SINGLE PERSON complaining would be enough.
    You spammed a blog/forum....again..it takes one single person filing a spaim complaint..byebye
    You interlinked the blogs?
    The sites were really, really crappy with multiple violations like copyright violations, dupe content, bad ad placement, bad navigation...so bad they didnt even bother to disable your account but rather deindexed? (not that likely...but who knows...)

    Unlikely IMO that Adsense violations would de-index your site...is your adsense account still active?
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    • Profile picture of the author Rita012
      Reasons could be:

      You used twitter, facebook etc. to spam links, ONE SINGLE PERSON complaining would be enough.
      You spammed a blog/forum....again..it takes one single person filing a spaim complaint..byebye
      I actually don't use Twitter or Facebook for marketing. Also don't do any forum marketing. Just do good onsite SEO, and generally send about 20 new links to each site per month. Tame. My sites have enjoyed good website rankings for a long time prior to this.
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      • Profile picture of the author Rita012
        Have you tried physical products relating to the niche? Look on CJ, Google Affiliate Network, ShareASale, PepperJam... just on CJ you can find thousands of vendors with millions of products
        I've tried. Guess I just don't have the knack for it. Do you place banners on your site for CPA offers? eBay converts relatively well, but I can't figure out their QCP. Wish I'd just get paid on sales with them.
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        • Profile picture of the author Ian Varnava
          Originally Posted by Rita012 View Post

          I've tried. Guess I just don't have the knack for it. Do you place banners on your site for CPA offers? eBay converts relatively well, but I can't figure out their QCP. Wish I'd just get paid on sales with them.
          I don't do banners. I believe in strategically placing products within actual posts, with images and text links. You will see a way, way higher conversions. Same for CPA offers.

          I'm not sure what kind of niches your websites are about... but using a plugin like Datafeedr you can build an entire store with tightly targeted products and push traffic to your 'store' throughout your website.

          Building a list and sending offers via e-mail has a higher conversion rate than just selling them on your website also, due to the repeat contact and relationship building aspect.
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        • Profile picture of the author Diane S
          Originally Posted by Rita012 View Post

          eBay converts relatively well, but I can't figure out their QCP. Wish I'd just get paid on sales with them.
          Nobody can figure out epn these days. Your sites are dot com? For me, having epn on dot info was a one way ticket to google deindexing.
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          • Profile picture of the author Rita012
            @2seolearner09 - Most are on shared, but on different hostgator accounts as well as Total Choice Hosting accounts. I think some may even be on a VPS I have, but I'd have to check to make sure. I really diversified my hosting.

            @Diane S - Are you sure that it was the .info and EPN? Strange. None of the sites effected however were .infos
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            • Profile picture of the author Diane S
              Originally Posted by Rita012 View Post

              @Diane S - Are you sure that it was the .info and EPN? Strange. None of the sites effected however were .infos
              I absolutely am sure. I have owned BANS sites on dot infos, run phpbay on dot infos, and phpbay on dot coms. All the dot infos got deindexed, whether BANS or phpbay, it mattered not. BANS was just first to get the ax. When epn started getting picky, I switched all my phpbay on dot com to epn snipplets on dot com. ebay feeds on dot com are the only epn feed sites of mine to stay indexed.

              I use dot info for adsense and those are staying indexed. No other monetization on those, just adsense.
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              • Profile picture of the author markowe
                Originally Posted by Diane S View Post

                I absolutely am sure. I have owned BANS sites on dot infos, run phpbay on dot infos, and phpbay on dot coms. All the dot infos got deindexed, whether BANS or phpbay, it mattered not. BANS was just first to get the ax. When epn started getting picky, I switched all my phpbay on dot com to epn snipplets on dot com. ebay feeds on dot com are the only epn feed sites of mine to stay indexed.

                I use dot info for adsense and those are staying indexed. No other monetization on those, just adsense.
                I have a different experience - I went through a phase of creating .info EPN sites, but some .coms as well and of course they were all pretty thin and a lot got slapped to kingdom come (we're talking a couple of years ago now - never used BANS, just my own solution). But I still have a few both .info and .com and can't really see a pattern - I actually have lots of .infos doing fine even though they are still a little, hmm... slim! And conversely some .coms that are nowhere. Maybe those .infos have just managed to stay below the radar - ha! Or more likely, I was just lucky with the keyword research on those. Oh, wait, I hadn't even HEARD of keyword research back then! So just a bit of luck I guess...

                But it's true to say, Google is NOT keen on pages and pages of eBay listings, and I always advise users of my plugin not to go crazy with it (but they usually do anyway :rolleyes.

                I would definitely be tempted to blame the eBay content here, though doesn't quite explain 66 sites getting slapped at once!
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                • Profile picture of the author Diane S
                  Originally Posted by markowe View Post

                  But it's true to say, Google is NOT keen on pages and pages of eBay listings, and I always advise users of my plugin not to go crazy with it (but they usually do anyway :rolleyes.

                  I would definitely be tempted to blame the eBay content here, though doesn't quite explain 66 sites getting slapped at once!
                  I got over a hundred dot info ebay feed sites deindexed all at once. The message I got from that experience is Google doesn't want ebay feeds on dot info in its index.

                  I wish Google would just buy eBay so dot infos could be used that way again...
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
      Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post


      Reasons could be:

      You used twitter, facebook etc. to spam links, ONE SINGLE PERSON complaining would be enough.
      You spammed a blog/forum....again..it takes one single person filing a spaim complaint..byebye
      You interlinked the blogs?
      The sites were really, really crappy with multiple violations like copyright violations, dupe content, bad ad placement, bad navigation...so bad they didnt even bother to disable your account but rather deindexed? (not that likely...but who knows...)
      Absolutely no way the first two things are culprits. First, the spam complaints are meant to tweak the algo not affect individual site change. That is even if the spam complaint is lucky enough to be read by a human. Second, we are talking about "off page" stuff, and we all know that isn't the issue here. I've got tons of sites i would be happy for you to throw links at and then "report." Better yet, try it against your competitors and see where that gets you.

      Possible on the last two.
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      • Profile picture of the author Chucky
        Originally Posted by Tom Goodwin View Post

        Absolutely no way the first two things are culprits. First, the spam complaints are meant to tweak the algo not affect individual site change. That is even if the spam complaint is lucky enough to be read by a human. Second, we are talking about "off page" stuff, and we all know that isn't the issue here. I've got tons of sites i would be happy for you to throw links at and then "report." Better yet, try it against your competitors and see where that gets you.

        Possible on the last two.
        Agreed!

        If it was possible, I would make a spam comment to my competitors and make complaint to Google. That would be fun
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        • Profile picture of the author Rita012
          @Ian - Great tips. Will try that. Thanks!
          @Tom - Agreed. Don't think it was off page stuff.
          @Terry - I don't want to post these niches, because I'll likely still use them
          @Oranges - I don't use Google analytics, as it has always made me paranoid
          @arttse - You could be right. They were meant to be income properties from adsense, although I don't think there was anything wrong with the content.

          Ob1 - Some sites used WPRobot to bring in ebay listings ( kind of like using phpbay ). Other sites were pure original good content.

          @ iAmNameLess - I still have a lot of other sites that were not impacted. Don't want to post links, because I still plan on using those niches in some way. My goal here is to figure out how to move forward and see if there can be a good 301 redirect strategy I can implement somehow.

          @gerryzehner Yep... sucks


          @GeraldGigerl - I don't really believe that links can get you deindexed, or competitors will do it. My link building has always been tame. I don't even do article spinning.

          @ Chris Sweeny - No- most of these were not autoblogs. The autoblogs I did have were seudo-autoblogs, as I was kind of anal about the content and each page, and whether or not it offered value to the end user. Plus, any of the sites that were autoblogs, had plenty of unique content on the front end.

          @MatthewBass - Haven't heard of that. Boy... that would nice!
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          • Profile picture of the author Chris Sweeney
            Well Rita, it seems like you're doing everything right from what you're telling us. Perhaps you could post your situation in the Google Webmaster Help Forum and see what they have to say about your site(s). They're usually pretty helpful over there, and in many cases you'll even get a Google employee chiming in on your situation. Keep us posted!
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            • Profile picture of the author Rita012
              A few people at the WPGM forum thought that maybe it could be site speed, as they have heard of de-indexing for that reason.

              The sites load super fast for me, but when I used this tool: loads.in - test how fast a webpage loads in a real browser from over 50 locations worldwide ,
              most of my sites were timing out ( taking longer than 20 seconds to load the entire site ).

              Don't know if that's because some sites have lots of pages on it, or whether or not this could really be the reason.
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              • Profile picture of the author Chris Sweeney
                Originally Posted by Rita012 View Post

                A few people at the WPGM forum thought that maybe it could be site speed, as they have heard of de-indexing for that reason.

                The sites load super fast for me, but when I used this tool: loads.in - test how fast a webpage loads in a real browser from over 50 locations worldwide ,
                most of my sites were timing out ( taking longer than 20 seconds to load the entire site ).

                Don't know if that's because some sites have lots of pages on it, or whether or not this could really be the reason.
                That's definitely a possibility if they're timing out. But I assume they'd have to be timing out for days or weeks for Google to decide to de-index a site (as opposed to, say, a couple hours, in which Googlebot would assume it's just temporary downtime), let alone 66 at once, and let alone 66 on several different hosting accounts. So, I could be wrong, but I doubt it's load time. One could conclude that if they were de-indexed because of slow load time, you would've noticed a decrease in your traffic before they were even de-indexed. To clear it up a bit, your site would start loading slowly or not at all for a week, so you'd notice a drop in traffic, and finally Google's bot says "Okay, every time I've come to this site in the past week, it wouldn't load for me, so I'm just going to take it out of the index because it's not working". But you say your traffic suddenly dropped, so I don't think it would be the load time. I hope I'm wrong though! I dunno, I'm still stumped :confused: . Definitely check the Google forum and see what they say.
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                • Profile picture of the author Rita012
                  IMHO, stay as far away from the auto-generation/pulling scripts as possible.
                  You need some kind of script to bring in current ebay listings. I happen to use wprobot on some sites. I think it would be just like using phpbay. Those ebay listings change from day to day, so you can't just paste in an auction.

                  I would think that it's a value ad for the user. If someone is looking for pink bunny slippers, and they come to a page with good information about pink bunny slippers, along with some ebay listings for pink bunny slippers, shouldn't that be a good thing?
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                  • Profile picture of the author Rita012
                    Do you think that this plugin might have been the culprit?

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                    • Profile picture of the author patrich
                      Originally Posted by Rita012 View Post

                      Do you think that this plugin might have been the culprit?

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                      I have heard of some issues with "spamming" tags, that could be the problem. It would really be helpful if you would post a link to one of the deindexed sites so that we could take a look and see if a fresh pair of eyes catching anything that may be causing a problem.

                      If the site is already deindexed, posting a link to it isn't going to hurt anything.
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                      • Profile picture of the author Rita012
                        @patrich - I'd rather not, since I still plan on working these sites. Once out on the WF, you can literally say goodbye to that niche. I'm not ready for that, although I do appreciate your help in trying to figure it out. I'm looking more on how best to move forward with these domains that were strong, and had solid backlinks to them. I think they could be of value used in a different way. ( And probably in a way that is much less labor intensive than managing that many sites).
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                        • Profile picture of the author Newbie11
                          Originally Posted by Rita012 View Post

                          @patrich - I'd rather not, since I still plan on working these sites. Once out on the WF, you can literally say goodbye to that niche. I'm not ready for that, although I do appreciate your help in trying to figure it out. I'm looking more on how best to move forward with these domains that were strong, and had solid backlinks to them. I think they could be of value used in a different way. ( And probably in a way that is much less labor intensive than managing that many sites).

                          Rita, if you are worried about posting the sites on the forum then just send a few of the advanced Warriors your one of your poor performing sites. Until then you will continue to speculate about what the problem could be.
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                    • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
                      Originally Posted by Rita012 View Post

                      Do you think that this plugin might have been the culprit?

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                      Possible. I used that one on one of my sites i think, but i changed all foot prints. If i use a plugin which only remotely looks "not kosher" i always change all footprints. So yes...there is a likelihood.

                      The same goes for autoblogs, wp-robot, spam CTR themes like clickbump, xfactor etc.

                      Ironically, every time there is a "i got deindexed" thread its often the same pattern, people using such themes, or "weird" plugins....wp-robot etc. Google got REALLY strict and people simply need to realize this.
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                      • Profile picture of the author betsyanne
                        Hi! I am so sorry this has happened to you. Here are some ideas that might help:

                        I would check my photos and art and make sure they were useable and even put information on the site about where I got them. This should make them OK for Google. If you do not have permission to use the photos, then you need to ask the photographer or email the site for permission. You can also use photos in the public domain, but give where you got them (a link or address) so anyone can tell they are OK.

                        I also would go to my sites (all of them) and make sure that they weren't hacked at the source, (where your site is hosted) and other pages added. Check the "popular pages" at StatCounter (which is free) for each address and make sure there aren't some pages you did not personally make which may be spammy or advertise things for sale for somebody else. Then (of course) get your passwords changed, and even change servers if their security is lax.

                        Then I would contact Google (after checking all scripts and copy on my sites) and find out how to make the sites better, and comply with Google's Terms of Service. They sometimes will have you take a site down, fix it, then post it back for another chance at an OK. Check your email for a message from them.

                        Do you have a Privacy Policy Notice on your website? Google wants all their websites to have these. You can put a link to their official Opt-Out page there.

                        These are just a few things that may help. I wish you the best of luck getting back to being indexed. You can check here for the official rules about what Google likes and doesn't like too (terms). It has helped me in the past. I hope these tips are useful to you.
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                        • Profile picture of the author Rita012
                          It doesn't make sense to get rid of your Adsense if you're making money from it. Adsense will not get your site de-indexed if you follow it's TOS. Part of it is, not to have more than 3 adsense units on 1 page. The units shouldn't be of the same format. Not have other properties similar to Adsense on the same page.

                          You've already figured out the most probable cause of getting de-indexed: keyword stuffing in PAGE TITLE, META TAGS and PAGES.

                          Best to deactivate the auto tag plugins including keyword clouds widget.

                          Then fill-in manually the Page title, META description and keywords. 8 keywords are enough. You could use Google's Wonder Wheel for reference.

                          Page title shouldn't have more than 60 characters. Descriptions should not have more than 160 characters. These are according to most SE's.

                          If you haven't, now is your chance to include 2 main plugins that Google loves : XML site-map and Google Analytics.

                          After activating both, you can wait to get re-spidered. Or you can quicken the process of re-indexing. Submit your XMLsite-map file in Google's Webmaster Tools.

                          Finally, don't get caught again in the easy-way-out TREND. Almost everyone who got de-indexed are using 301 redirect. This is not fooling Google. Google is watching until they trigger another wave of de-indexing exercise for RELEVANCY.

                          Steps:
                          > Clean up each site first.
                          > Add usage policy and contact-us pages. ( make them slightly different for each site & specifically mentioning the domain name )
                          > Add a new useful content post/page & embed a relevant YouTube <-- add value to ur site
                          > Add text link footers, if they are not there
                          > Re-Permalink your site pages and posts.
                          > XML-site-mapped it.
                          > Connect the site to Google Analytics
                          > Get it re-spidered by SE's from their app page.
                          > Be patient

                          Hardwork and strategies will always pay off.
                          You know... I actually did hand do all my page meta data, and they were not keyword stuffed at all. The description used the key phrase just once, along with a call to action.
                          Title tags had the keyword phrase just once. I actually used very short titles. And, each page on my sites were different and targeted different phrases within that niche. I think the meta data was in good shape.

                          I also used a lot of youtube videos in my sites. I tried to find a good related video to go with my content, which I searched out myself on youtube.

                          Also have the xml sitemap and text link footers with all the necessary privacy policy, contact, disclaimer, etc.

                          I never do Google analytics. I think that give Google way to much power to get into my site. If I analyze a site in webmaster tools, I quickly delete it from there once I'm done.

                          I don't think it was any of those things. My adsense account is still okay. If I violated TOS on adsense, they would have disabled my adsense account.

                          I'm pretty certain that a page was found somewhere, that had the search tagging data, 10 related ebay listings, and the seo pressor, which was considered keyword stuffing.


                          I've always thought being 'diversified' is one important thing about protecting your income on the web.

                          But just having a lot of sites doesn't mean you are diversified.
                          Depending on adsense for all of them, using webmastertools for all of them... You aren't diversified at all. It's all google. It's all one acct. Gone tomorrow.

                          For the OP: If there's one good thing about getting 66 sites banned, it's that you can try and test different methods for getting them back.

                          I'm trying different things for my sites. Some got pulled completely, some get redirected, some get to wait it out. Maybe some content gets moved to 3rd party sites.

                          Why blindly try the same thing on all your sites? Test and see what works.
                          I agree with you there. Going to run some 301 tests today on a single site.


                          I think google is doing again illegal things.
                          Try to rank well on other search engines.
                          Yes.. but Google does have a 70 some % of market share.

                          Put links to the site here. They'll be indexed in a day.
                          That would work for a site that has never been indexed. This a due to a penalty, so link building won't get them out.
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                      • Profile picture of the author Rita012
                        @GeorgR. - In the WPGM forum, someone found this article of interest on that particular plugin - SEO SearchTerms Tagging 2 Footprint Removal | Niche Store Builder

                        @ Playground Equipment - I can see how that would be a way to index a new site, but this I'm sure is some kind of penalty.

                        @betsyanne - good tips. Most of my pics are purchased from Dreamstime.com . I do have all the privacy policy and disclaimers on my sites.
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                      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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                        Originally Posted by Rita012 View Post

                        Do you think that this plugin might have been the culprit?

                        WordPress › SEO SearchTerms Tagging 2 « WordPress Plugins
                        Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

                        Possible. I used that one on one of my sites i think, but i changed all foot prints. If i use a plugin which only remotely looks "not kosher" i always change all footprints. So yes...there is a likelihood.

                        The same goes for autoblogs, wp-robot, spam CTR themes like clickbump, xfactor etc.

                        Ironically, every time there is a "i got deindexed" thread its often the same pattern, people using such themes, or "weird" plugins....wp-robot etc. Google got REALLY strict and people simply need to realize this.
                        I'm running that same plugin on a couple of my own sites.

                        If you changed the footprint, no way that plugin got you de-indexed.

                        That plugin is awesome!

                        http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...KdIcJO6hcc6AXM
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            • Profile picture of the author seolearner09
              For the 66 sites affected, were they on 'shared hosting packages' (even across different hosts/servers) or were some 'reseller' sites affected too?
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          • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
            Originally Posted by Rita012 View Post


            Ob1 - Some sites used WPRobot to bring in ebay listings ( kind of like using phpbay ). Other sites were pure original good content.
            In the past few/several months there are quite a few horror stories of people's sites getting whacked that used WPRobot (and i'm sure similar programs). Pretty much anything related to auto-generated/pulled content is in a pretty precarious position, even if the entire site is not based on such content.

            It also seems like Google has been lumping sites together that they are pretty sure are owned by the same person (via whois data, adsense code, webmaster tools hookup,etc.), and if a good number of sites are "bad" for google, they just go ahead and zap all of the sites owned by that person. They certainly don't go site by site and keep "good" sites.

            IMHO, stay as far away from the auto-generation/pulling scripts as possible.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by Tom Goodwin View Post

        Absolutely no way the first two things are culprits. First, the spam complaints are meant to tweak the algo not affect individual site change. That is even if the spam complaint is lucky enough to be read by a human. Second, we are talking about "off page" stuff, and we all know that isn't the issue here. I've got tons of sites i would be happy for you to throw links at and then "report." Better yet, try it against your competitors and see where that gets you.

        Possible on the last two.
        disagree. Yes the first two by itself would probably not be enough but combined with some signs on the site like the last two points then yes they could contribute to the de indexing.

        The idea that the kind of links you use can have no impact on a deindexing is a myth. Its a cumulative thing many times. A spam report can get you on Google's maual radar and then whats on the site can convince the reviewer that the site is in fact behind the links.

        And no I wish that myth rational would go away because its false. the reason hat throwing links at your competitor's site probably won't hurt them relates to their whole link profile. You competitor is already ranking for terms with their own links so addin to them will not change their entire profile.
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        • Profile picture of the author Rita012
          yep, see your point now. And getting paranoid also, somewhat. I should stop reading those threads
          Me too. Today I went through all my non-deindexed sites and added private registrations to them. Unfortunately, privacy is pricey, but it comes free with domain transfers. I'll probably have to transfer domain registrars each year to keep privacy/whoisguard free.
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          • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
            Originally Posted by Rita012 View Post

            Me too. Today I went through all my non-deindexed sites and added private registrations to them. Unfortunately, privacy is pricey, but it comes free with domain transfers. I'll probably have to transfer domain registrars each year to keep privacy/whoisguard free.
            no you don't. Netfirms amd Namecheap include it for free wth their registrations. Net firms has had a coupon for months now that gives you domains for $4.95. Limit on coupon used with credit cards but change the credit card and you are good to go for another round.
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  • Profile picture of the author terryd
    Could you post one of your sites so we can see what the probably problem was?
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  • Profile picture of the author Oranges
    They were all using the same Google Analytics account or Google Webmaster tools? Perhaps that could be the reason!
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    • Profile picture of the author arttse
      They must've received a manual review and google determined they were MFA sites is the only thing I can think of.
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  • Profile picture of the author 0b1
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    are these Made For Adsense Sites? with auto content plugins?

    Been reading alot on the article directory sites getting pushed down the rankings, or worst DE-indexed

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  • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
    Okay, 66 sites, different niches, different servers, this makes no sense. There has to be something you have done...

    Can you provide links to these sites? I really don't believe that 66 of your own sites are entirely deindexed.

    Can you please post a couple links, or PM them to me? I think you're confusing deindexed with losing rank!
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  • Profile picture of the author alco
    Hey Rita.

    You should put the URL of one of your sites, there could be something in your sites that you overlooked.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gerald Arno
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    If you got so many sites de indexed that MUST Have a specific reason. I definitely would figure out why that happened and how you can get back on track. Google has continues Algorithm changes and this might have to to with the quality of backlinks and also how you build them.

    I saw there a good suggestion with getting high PR authority backlinks. This can be the solution, but you have to know why it happened first.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chris Sweeney
      Were they all auto-blogs?
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      • Profile picture of the author MatthewBass
        Rita, It could be what I call the Cupid Shuffle, although I've never had it happen to that many sites at once.

        In the past, I've had sites that were in the top 3 drop off the map and were no where to be found in the index, yet a few days later they appeared right back where they were or a spot higher in the rankings.

        I hope that's the case for your sites and that all you're going through is the Cupid Shuffle and are just getting a little Google lovin' before they come back even higher.

        With what you've mentioned here - there aren't any obvious reasons why this has happened to your sites.
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  • Have you tried linking to your un-indexed sites from your indexed sites? That usually gets my sites indexed immediately.
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    • Profile picture of the author misterkailo
      I had over 100 sites de-indexed as they were loaded up with AdSense ads everywhere plus they were pretty thin with general contents that were rather useless.
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      • Profile picture of the author Rita012
        Also..the notion that domain privacy protection is a reason for DEINDEXING a site is very absurd.
        I agree with that to a point.

        What I'm thinking happened was what might be keyword stuffing on certain pages, which caused a manual process, where they were able to connect my sites together, some through adsense ID, and some through registrar information.

        I'm thinking it may be due to keyword stuffing, because I used the search tagging plugin and left it at the default of 10. So at the bottom of each post, were the most recent 10 searches, which were all versions of 'pink bunny slippers'.

        Then, on certain pages ( certainly not all, and not on every site), but I have pages where I may have showcased 10 or so ebay listings that were happening now, for 'pink bunny slippers'.

        Add the SEO pressor plugin, and you've got a pretty optimized page for a given keyword. Probably too much so.

        I'm guessing that the combination of that, might have had an influence, and got an over zealous reviewer, who was not looking carefully enough at the sites he/she was setting up to deindex.

        Here's a video that I thought was interesting:

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      • Profile picture of the author dabbler
        A similar thing happened to me about 5 weeks ago.
        Half of my sites suddenly deindexed. Over 10 sites & most of my moneymakers.

        I've been going over them trying to find problems since then. Some were WP, some plain html, some affiliate, some not. They had mostly quality, original content.

        I have found some problems on a few such as a few 'iffy' plugins, etc.
        But the one thing they had in common was using adsense. Only 1 of my non-nuked sites 'had' adsense. All the nuked ones did.

        I did 'reconsideration request' on 3 sites. (3 that I was sure are and were totally 'clean'.) No response.

        Started 301'ing some to a new domain. That seems to be actually working so far, they are getting indexed and ranking for a few terms already.

        Even though I think adsense was only indirectly responsible for me getting banned, I've taken it off everything. The sad thing is adsense was only a small fraction of my affiliate income from those sites.
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        • Profile picture of the author Rita012
          A similar thing happened to me about 5 weeks ago.
          Half of my sites suddenly deindexed. Over 10 sites & most of my moneymakers.

          I've been going over them trying to find problems since then. Some were WP, some plain html, some affiliate, some not. They had mostly quality, original content.

          I have found some problems on a few such as a few 'iffy' plugins, etc.
          But the one thing they had in common was using adsense. Only 1 of my non-nuked sites 'had' adsense. All the nuked ones did.

          I did 'reconsideration request' on 3 sites. (3 that I was sure are and were totally 'clean'.) No response.

          Started 301'ing some to a new domain. That seems to be actually working so far, they are getting indexed and ranking for a few terms already.

          Even though I think adsense was only indirectly responsible for me getting banned, I've taken it off everything. The sad thing is adsense was only a small fraction of my affiliate income from those sites.
          Thanks for sharing. I think the 301 to a new domain is where I'm going to be moving toward, and it will be a site with no adsense on it.
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    • Profile picture of the author tdj
      I really think Google found a few of your sites were wrong and surmised that all 66 are the same and deindexed all of them. I would try the forum at Google and ask around to see what the problem is. Are you following all the adsense TOS? I think you would find your answer if you PM one of the guys here in the thread with a few of your URLs. Like George or Tom.

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    • Profile picture of the author AndyBlackSEO
      Originally Posted by Playground Equipment View Post

      Have you tried linking to your un-indexed sites from your indexed sites? That usually gets my sites indexed immediately.
      What? So Google can then link all her sites together and de-index them too? I wouldn't risk it.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    Google doesnt like ebay feeds, but ALSO doesnt like yahoo answers "copy paste jobs", youtube feeds/scrapes...ezine feeds etc.

    Basically ALL the big and known sites, not only ebay. Not that long ago there was a thread someone getting deindexed, he had a jazz site with jazz videos from youtube, used youtube descriptions. --> deindexed!

    Short: If your site does not have UNIQUE content you are in trouble.

    (There are a few exceptions, eg. RSS feeds from news agencies etc.)
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    • Profile picture of the author Rita012
      New discovery -

      Domains with private registrations are not de-indexed.
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      • Profile picture of the author Diane S
        Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

        Google doesnt like ebay feeds, but ALSO doesnt like yahoo answers "copy paste jobs", youtube feeds/scrapes...ezine feeds etc.

        Basically ALL the big and known sites, not only ebay. Not that long ago there was a thread someone getting deindexed, he had a jazz site with jazz videos from youtube, used youtube descriptions. --> deindexed!

        Short: If your site does not have UNIQUE content you are in trouble.
        I haven't tested the many things you say Google doesn't like. The one I have tested is an eBay feed on a DOT INFO domain. I have many ebay feeds on DOT COM domains that are indexed, ranking and making profit. My test is specific and I am not saying Google deindexes all sites with eBay feeds.

        Originally Posted by Rita012 View Post

        New discovery - Domains with private registrations are not de-indexed.
        Private registration or not all (>100 sites) my dot infos with eBay feeds were deindexed. Some were private, others were not. I do wonder, though, in your case, if it was a factor. I am very sorry this has happened to you, Rita.
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      • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
        Originally Posted by Rita012 View Post

        New discovery -

        Domains with private registrations are not de-indexed.
        It sure is pretty easy to lump sites together if they don't have privacy on. We had a bunch of sites de-indexed about 10 months ago and the distinguishing factor was privacy vs. non-privacy. Thus, every site I has privacy on now.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    not "any" privacy, the privacy p. MUST mention Google and the Dart Cookie.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rita012
      It sure is pretty easy to lump sites together if they don't have privacy on. We had a bunch of sites de-indexed about 10 months ago and the distinguishing factor was privacy vs. non-privacy. Thus, every site I has privacy on now.
      That's interesting time.

      Guess that means privacy from now on.

      So what did you do after your sites were de-indexed?
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      • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
        Originally Posted by Rita012 View Post

        That's interesting time.

        Guess that means privacy from now on.

        So what did you do after your sites were de-indexed?
        Tried lots of things. submitted a few for reconsideration through GWT, link building, more/new content, etc. Maybe about 1/3 came back, after maybe 4 months, but they all went to PR0 (they were all PR3-PR6 before). We just ended up writing all the sites off and moved on.
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    • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
      Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

      not "any" privacy, the privacy p. MUST mention Google and the Dart Cookie.
      Whoa.. I must be missing something.. Can you expand on that?
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      • Profile picture of the author arttse
        The privacy needs to contain the following:

        Google Adsense and the DoubleClick DART Cookie
        Google, as a third party advertisement vendor, uses cookies to serve ads on this site. The use of DART cookies by Google enables them to serve adverts to visitors that are based on their visits to this website as well as other sites on the internet.
        To opt out of the DART cookies you may visit the Google ad and content network privacy policy at the following url http://www.google.com/privacy_ads.html Tracking of users through the DART cookie mechanisms are subject to Google’s own privacy policies.
        Other Third Party ad servers or ad networks may also use cookies to track users activities on this website to measure advertisement effectiveness and other reasons that will be provided in their own privacy policies, [your website] has no access or control over these cookies that may be used by third party advertisers.


        Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

        Whoa.. I must be missing something.. Can you expand on that?
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      • Profile picture of the author webtrafficnoob
        I lost 50 AdSense sites in 1 day in aug 2008 (deindexed) ... I still have 35 of these they came back in oct 2010 when I moved em to wordpress (were orig made on xsite) and added contact us, privacy, about us,etc.
        I did Not add new content.
        Even though they came back they have never ranked even as close to where they did in 2008
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        • Profile picture of the author Rita012
          Sites still need a privacy policy for adsense. I had that. What I'm referring to is Private Registrations/WhoIsGuard . That may keep Google from knowing who the domain is registered to.

          I lost 50 AdSense sites in 1 day in aug 2008 (deindexed) ... I still have 35 of these they came back in oct 2010 when I moved em to wordpress (were orig made on xsite) and added contact us, privacy, about us,etc.
          I did Not add new content.
          Even though they came back they have never ranked even as close to where they did in 2008
          So interesting. They sort of came back on their own when you changed hosts?
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          • Profile picture of the author webtrafficnoob
            yes i let them sit for awhile cause i was frustrated and had 2 years left on the domains. they were static 5 -10 page xsitepro sites
            then i changed to a new host and threw em all on wordpress just copied over my same content and added a privacy policy and about us and contact us and then 'magically' they were back and all the new pages were indexed.
            none of the domains were private whois except 1

            BTW google is a registrar and some say can see through private whois
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            • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
              Originally Posted by webtrafficnoob View Post


              BTW google is a registrar and some say can see through private whois
              IMHO, anyone who believes that needs to be medicated.

              A few things:

              First, some of us have had sites zapped when the only differentiating factor was privacy.

              Second, if Google ever attempted to use any rights iit has as a registrar to influence its search engine Google would be in for some serious antitrust issues. Not to mention, I would assume that any contract registrars agree to would be pretty strict about the use and misuse of any data they might have access to.

              Third, for those of us with a large number of domains on GoDaddy (not really by choice...they were just acquired domains), i'm pretty sure that even a registrar couldn't peel back the privacy barrier for those that use Domains by Proxy through GoDaddy, as that really is an independent holding company of domains.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
      Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

      not "any" privacy, the privacy p. MUST mention Google and the Dart Cookie.
      As Rita noted, not talking about a privacy page here. That is a no brainer if you run adsense.

      I'm talking about private registration here, i.e., privacy from Google's snooping eyes.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ducksauce
    Attn Rita012 : I am a newbie, you mentioned WPGM, I Googled it and is that a forum where you pay $19.95 a month?

    This has been a interesting thread.

    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author Almanack
      Originally Posted by Ducksauce View Post

      Attn Rita012 : I am a newbie, you mentioned WPGM, I Googled it and is that a forum where you pay $19.95 a month?

      This has been a interesting thread.

      Thanks
      I have been a member of WPGM for years. It is an excellent forum. I recommend it.
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      • Profile picture of the author Rita012
        I have been a member of WPGM for years. It is an excellent forum. I recommend it.
        Yes... an amazing community for sure. ( Wordpress Goldmine*|* )
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  • Profile picture of the author azmanar
    Hi Rita,

    Don't let Google make you give-up on your money making sites and throw them down the drain.

    I have some suggestions for you to consider. Might make your sites sticky and be less dependent on Google. Google may even reverse their decisions later on, once they review your sites.

    Consideration 1
    Have you taken a look at how you build your META TAGS - Descriptions and Keywords, for each site ?

    These 2 tags could be part of the problem to Google if they are spammy.

    I heard Google used to ignore Meta Keywords because people tend to spam keywords in it, even if the other parts of the content are not.

    But with Google's recent overzealous on RELEVANCY, they might look inside of META KEYWORDS as a factor in their de-indexing decision.

    Consideration 2
    Your main concern is traffic to your sites, right?

    A. Have you registered all your de-indexed sites with DMOZ.org? This might help in driving traffic from millions of AOL searches. Google do respect DMOZ because of the human-factor of the directory. Being registered in DMOZ might help get you re-indexed.

    B. Register manually all your de-indexed sites with Tier-2 Search Engines. This will raise traffic.

    C. The orthodox traffic method. Make your own directory on a new domain, placing summaries of all your de-indexed sites together. Use hard-coded HTML because this means speed. Make a 1 paragraph summary for each site with the title as a anchor text cleanly hyperlinked. SEO it. And if you have a small budget, advertise this self-made directory using Facebook and POF !

    D. The video traffic method. Make a Video SlideShow for each of your de-indexed site. It is like a summary of each site. Place royalty-free music, text, images and/or voice over. Upload them to YouTube. It is virtually selling your site to viewers. Make a summary of each site as the description and be sure to use http:// preceding each domain name.

    E. The article marketing method. Use Hubpages, Squidoo and Videojug Pages to place summaries about each of your site. You can even place video summary of each site in it. Easy and fun to use. Forget other article directories which are tedious and require approvals.

    Consideration 3
    You mentioned about speed of more than 20 seconds to completely load each site.

    WP is well-liked by almost everyone, including Google. But it is still template-based and database dependent. Therefore, speed of loading is highly dependent on how busy the shared-hosting is.

    Other reasons that may slowdown loading are especially AMAZON and WP-Plugins.

    A. Deactivate the plugins that may be the causing the slowdown or

    B. Recreate all your de-indexed sites using hardcoded HTML. This really means speed loading. And you can manage all sites and upload content using a single point desktop software.

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    Just some ideas for warriors who have been affected by Google.

    Allow alternatives so as to prevent being victimized by GIANTS.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rita012
      @azmanar - WOW! Thanks. Lot's of great tips there! Much appreciated.
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  • Profile picture of the author margaretrobles
    Well, the best thing to do is, if you got 66 websites de-indexed by Google or other SEs, then it's time for you to change your internet promoting strategy and just stick to white hat for the next time, you cannot blame Google for de-indexing your websites, as long as you are not doing something against their rules. Well, lessons learn I guess.
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  • Profile picture of the author finemoves
    Taking the Adsense off immediately would be the first step. Then I'd throw some links at your sites and see if you come back.

    If your sites don't come back, I'd try a 301 redirect using just 1 site.

    301 Redirect old site to brand new site. Try to rank brand new site. If the brand new site ranks, do 301 redirects for all sites. If the new site will not rank after significant backlinking, then get rid of your old sites. They are junk.

    Google Sucks, and it's best to have multiple Adwords, Adsense, Analytics, and Webmaster tools accounts for each site.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chris Sweeney
      Originally Posted by finemoves View Post

      Taking the Adsense off immediately would be the first step. Then I'd throw some links at your sites and see if you come back.

      If your sites don't come back, I'd try a 301 redirect using just 1 site.

      301 Redirect old site to brand new site. Try to rank brand new site. If the brand new site ranks, do 301 redirects for all sites. If the new site will not rank after significant backlinking, then get rid of your old sites. They are junk.

      Google Sucks, and it's best to have multiple Adwords, Adsense, Analytics, and Webmaster tools accounts for each site.
      That's actually a pretty good tip. Fix whatever you think might be wrong with one site. Then ping it and shoot some links at the site. Wait a few days and see what happens. If nothing, then buy a new domain and 301 to it from the old site. Wait a few days/weeks. Still nothing? Well, even if they're still out of the Google index, I'd still keep them if they still get traffic from other sources like Yahoo, Bing, article directories, etc. If they are still earning enough to justify the costs of keeping them, then by all means still keep them, even in the case that the things that FineMoves suggested don't work.
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      • Profile picture of the author Rita012
        Taking the Adsense off immediately would be the first step. Then I'd throw some links at your sites and see if you come back.

        If your sites don't come back, I'd try a 301 redirect using just 1 site.

        301 Redirect old site to brand new site. Try to rank brand new site. If the brand new site ranks, do 301 redirects for all sites. If the new site will not rank after significant backlinking, then get rid of your old sites. They are junk.

        Google Sucks, and it's best to have multiple Adwords, Adsense, Analytics, and Webmaster tools accounts for each site.


        That's actually a pretty good tip. Fix whatever you think might be wrong with one site. Then ping it and shoot some links at the site. Wait a few days and see what happens. If nothing, then buy a new domain and 301 to it from the old site. Wait a few days/weeks. Still nothing? Well, even if they're still out of the Google index, I'd still keep them if they still get traffic from other sources like Yahoo, Bing, article directories, etc. If they are still earning enough to justify the costs of keeping them, then by all means still keep them, even in the case that the things that FineMoves suggested don't work.

        That is good advice.

        The downside is that I find it alot easier to make money from adsense, then with anything else.
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  • Profile picture of the author FinallyFree
    You might wanna consider other things now. I know you are saying that it is easier to earn money with adsense, but if you do it right and long enough, then you can get good money by doing affiliate.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    Too much speculation in this thread.

    How do you conclude that Adsense was the reason for his site being deindexed and that jumping on affiliate marketing would solve his problems? That's nothing but speculation...maybe even the wrong thing to do.

    Also..the notion that domain privacy protection is a reason for DEINDEXING a site is very absurd.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
      Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post


      Also..the notion that domain privacy protection is a reason for DEINDEXING a site is very absurd.
      You are completely missing the point George.

      Lack of domain privacy protection isn't the violation here. Rather, the violation is likely the use of auto-pulled content, keyword stuffing or other on-page "stuff".

      The problem though is when a good number of sites you own have these tactics that Google doesn't like, Google can and will lump all of the sites attached to you as "bad" and deindex all of them. Google will not go site by site and say, hey these 30 are bad, but i'll keep these 5 because they are OK. That is just the way Google operates and there is no one you can complain about it to. Being included in Google is a privilege, not a right.

      If Domain A is determined "bad" by Google, how does Google determine what other sites are owned by the owner of Domain A? Easy, check the Whois info and run a search.

      I know that I am not alone in having some domains de-indexed, with other sites left alone, when the only difference between the two groups is that the de-indexed group did not have domain privacy while the indexed group had domain privacy.

      Anyone who employs anything evenly remotely not "OK" with Google on one of his sites, is risking all of his other sites as well unless he employs privacy protection.
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      • Profile picture of the author Ian Varnava
        Originally Posted by Tom Goodwin View Post

        Being included in Google is a privilege, not a right.
        I like this. Just like driving.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by Tom Goodwin View Post


        If Domain A is determined "bad" by Google, how does Google determine what other sites are owned by the owner of Domain A? Easy, check the Whois info and run a search.
        Ip addresses but I agree that the whios helps too and its most likely some content issues.

        No one can know until they see some sites
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        • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
          Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

          Ip addresses
          I bet though that the majority of people who have websites host them on shared IPs where there are 1000's if not 10,000's of domains on the same IP. Google isn't just going to ban all of the sites on one of Hostgator's IPs:rolleyes:
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          • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
            Originally Posted by Tom Goodwin View Post

            I bet though that the majority of people who have websites host them on shared IPs where there are 1000's if not 10,000's of domains on the same IP. Google isn't just going to ban all of the sites on one of Hostgator's IPs:rolleyes:
            Fair point. I assumed some efficiency and wouldn't have 60 plus sites on a shared network but this is IM

            but still you see duplicate content on the same IP that says it all right there and then theres the obvious - same Adsense on the same IP. I guess google couldn't put the two together and figure it out right?:rolleyes:
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        • Profile picture of the author Rita012
          Ip addresses but I agree that the whios helps too and its most likely some content issues.

          No one can know until they see some sites
          I feel pretty sure that it was keyword stuffing, which was the combination of ebay, search tagging plugin, and seo pressor. The pages were probably too strongly SEO'd. And, I think from that, the manual reviewer found my other sites through adsense id and whois, and didn't bother taking a good look at the other sites and deindexed what they could find. I'm curious which site may have caused the red flag.

          I had domains effected that were hosted on 4 different hosting accounts, so the deindexing went wider than just by IP address. And, not all domains on the same IP were deindexed.
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          • Profile picture of the author azmanar
            Hi Rita,

            It doesn't make sense to get rid of your Adsense if you're making money from it. Adsense will not get your site de-indexed if you follow it's TOS. Part of it is, not to have more than 3 adsense units on 1 page. The units shouldn't be of the same format. Not have other properties similar to Adsense on the same page.

            You've already figured out the most probable cause of getting de-indexed: keyword stuffing in PAGE TITLE, META TAGS and PAGES.

            Best to deactivate the auto tag plugins including keyword clouds widget.

            Then fill-in manually the Page title, META description and keywords. 8 keywords are enough. You could use Google's Wonder Wheel for reference.

            Page title shouldn't have more than 60 characters. Descriptions should not have more than 160 characters. These are according to most SE's.

            If you haven't, now is your chance to include 2 main plugins that Google loves : XML site-map and Google Analytics.

            After activating both, you can wait to get re-spidered. Or you can quicken the process of re-indexing. Submit your XMLsite-map file in Google's Webmaster Tools.

            Finally, don't get caught again in the easy-way-out TREND. Almost everyone who got de-indexed are using 301 redirect. This is not fooling Google. Google is watching until they trigger another wave of de-indexing exercise for RELEVANCY.

            Steps:
            > Clean up each site first.
            > Add usage policy and contact-us pages. ( make them slightly different for each site & specifically mentioning the domain name )
            > Add a new useful content post/page & embed a relevant YouTube <-- add value to ur site
            > Add text link footers, if they are not there
            > Re-Permalink your site pages and posts.
            > XML-site-mapped it.
            > Connect the site to Google Analytics
            > Get it re-spidered by SE's from their app page.
            > Be patient

            Hardwork and strategies will always pay off.
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    • Profile picture of the author Newbie11
      Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

      Too much speculation in this thread.

      How do you conclude that Adsense was the reason for his site being deindexed and that jumping on affiliate marketing would solve his problems? That's nothing but speculation...maybe even the wrong thing to do.

      Also..the notion that domain privacy protection is a reason for DEINDEXING a site is very absurd.
      I agree...there is no way to know what is wrong with the sites until someone takes a look at it to analyze what is wrong.
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  • Profile picture of the author dabbler
    Yeah, I think of adsense as kind of a bad 2 edged sword now. It's the easiest way for them (along w/webmaster tools) to find out which other sites you own.
    Plus if they decide to suddenly hold adsense sites to a higher standard, by banning or penalizing (a-la Panda) they have you at their mercy that way too.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chris Sweeney
      I think if it was because of AdSense though, they would've shut down your AdSense account, and not de-index all your sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    I'm thinking it may be due to keyword stuffing, because I used the search tagging plugin and left it at the default of 10. So at the bottom of each post, were the most recent 10 searches, which were all versions of 'pink bunny slippers'.
    Yes this is likely although i myself didn't consider that plugin in question *that* dangerous. It was probably that in combination with other factors....some unlucky combination which triggered some of their bots.

    As said, i had that plugin running once just to see what exactly it does, but then came to the conclusion i want to chose my tags myself and not let the plugin create tags on incoming search phrases. While this is interesting, it it not necessarily the best thing to do respective there are better ways to "attract" searches, eg. with longer content
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    yep, see your point now. And getting paranoid also, somewhat. I should stop reading those threads
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  • Profile picture of the author seoforu
    66 sites deindexed in just one go..it's really shocking,it forces me to think that the sites were of little value in terms of Google that is why it did that.Be sure that your site is so powerful that Google should think twice before removing deindexing them.
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    • Profile picture of the author dabbler
      I've always thought being 'diversified' is one important thing about protecting your income on the web.

      But just having a lot of sites doesn't mean you are diversified.
      Depending on adsense for all of them, using webmastertools for all of them... You aren't diversified at all. It's all google. It's all one acct. Gone tomorrow.

      For the OP: If there's one good thing about getting 66 sites banned, it's that you can try and test different methods for getting them back.

      I'm trying different things for my sites. Some got pulled completely, some get redirected, some get to wait it out. Maybe some content gets moved to 3rd party sites.

      Why blindly try the same thing on all your sites? Test and see what works.
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  • Profile picture of the author imfusa
    I think google is doing again illegal things.
    Try to rank well on other search engines.
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  • Profile picture of the author MaryDD
    If your 66 sites are deindexed then there would be some thing common among them, try to understand that.
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    • Profile picture of the author Boris_yo
      Did all of your AdSense websites get deindexed? Was AdSense code on each website that you own or only on those that got deindexed?
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  • Profile picture of the author webjedi
    MaryDD and Boris are on the right track here.

    Adsense account is still standing, no broad TOS violation.
    Multiple hosts, IPs - not server related (accounts, hardware)
    Aged domains from 1-10 yrs - Sudden ax.

    Maybe all 66 domains expired (hah joke).

    Are there any sites with the same Adsense account still indexed?

    This completely smells like algorithm. You are us baed,m so are your servers and sites. You mentioned students use some of them for home work and one has a 6500 word article.. maybe you got caught in the Panda net as it were.

    When they do an algo update, they don't just do ONE thing.
    It was an ax chop, it was broad across your empire, differing sites, differing content, good SEO practices.

    Adsense is common denominator, the only tie that even links the 66 sites.
    Maybe you were doing too well?

    Super high revenue?
    Dominating too many results (Google complained, a competitor complained)

    What a terrible thing and something that I specifically looked up cause I was worried about the Adsense footprint.

    Please keep informing us...

    wj
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  • Profile picture of the author dungdenvn
    bad news for you ... sry to hear that
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  • Profile picture of the author App Developers
    uh, I would sit down and cry! so, why is there so much talk of de-indexing. Does this happen if Google gets mad at you??
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  • Profile picture of the author dabbler
    Update on my situation (similar to the OP's)

    After over 6 wks, the only thing that seems to have helped (a little at least) is getting a completely new domain and 301'ing the old site.

    All the sites that I didn't redirect are still banned. No word from G on my re-inclusion requests. Most of the sites I have redirected are at least getting indexed and are showing in the SERP's. Though mostly at reduced levels.
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  • Profile picture of the author Groovystar
    My god, can you really get deindexed for one complaint about spam? I blog comment all the time but manually, and the link is my name. Could someone actually just post a bunch of spam pointing to a rival's site then go report it and that would be it?
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    Any updates on this?
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  • Profile picture of the author dagaul101
    First off would have to find out what promoting techniques could have caused all those sites to be deindexed, and try to follow the rules per what the search engines are looking for
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    • Profile picture of the author viantea
      Google does not manually check sites.when their algorithm flags your site, they review it manually and make a decision. Always check your sites statcounter to see who is always checking on you. watch out for mountain view , and google browser, not the image bot. It happened to me, i noticed mountain view on four of my sites and the next day they were deindexed.
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      • Profile picture of the author jerytohn
        Originally Posted by viantea View Post

        Google does not manually check sites.when their algorithm flags your site, they review it manually and make a decision. Always check your sites statcounter to see who is always checking on you. watch out for mountain view , and google browser, not the image bot. It happened to me, i noticed mountain view on four of my sites and the next day they were deindexed.
        Why were they de-indexed?
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