Using anchor text for Backlinks?

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I read an ebook recently about Backlinking which says you should never create anchor text using the keyword which is in your sites domain or website title.

Here's a screenshot of the page which says it - http://img808.imageshack.us/i/blreport.png/


Im confused by this because the keyword in the domain for Amazon sites is often www.nameofniche-reviews.com which you need to rank for because people type the name of the niche into search engines.

Is this correct that you shouldn't use the keyword which is in your domain name and you should use related keywords instead?
#anchor #backlinks #text
  • Profile picture of the author indie08
    Hello Cooler,

    Just answered your question in Jan's thread..

    Brian
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  • Profile picture of the author mandark
    I think this applies more when you are already ranking well for the keywords in your title/domain. At that time, you can and should start focusing on other keywords - but I would certainly focus on your first one (or few) first.
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  • Profile picture of the author sanamuskan
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    it is a most helpful technique in seo for increasing website traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author tigerwar
    Hi Cooler1,


    The answer is definitely TRY TO RANK FOR YOUR DOMAIN KEYWORDS especially with a new website and 0 backlinks.

    The person who wrote that article in the link that you posted didn't explain all aspects of SEO backlinking IMHO.

    You would look a little stupid calling your site www.airplanes.bla and then posting reviews or guides on - how to grill "pink frogs" as your keywords right?

    If you have an aged site with PR5+ you can post almost anything if the backlinks also keep coming into the domain but and even then you have to keep the relevancy of the global topic fresh with relative content or keep adding or receiving backlinks


    if your domain is www.toppinkfrogsguide.bla AND the site is NEW then your anchor text to your home page should be for example:

    Pink frogs
    small pink frogs
    ugliest pink frogs

    and/or include the words Top and/or Guide, there are reasons to include or exclude these from anchor texts regarding monetization and search volume.

    You have to know what you want to rank for first before thinking about the anchor text. The following may seem to be obvious and possibly irrelevant to the thread but it is necessary in order to understand which anchor text to use and why you should use the domain name or at least part of it as an anchor text.

    Go to the keyword tool and enter those keywords and see which ones bring in a good search volume, but note that any keyword you choose must be on the page that you are linking to (in this case, the home page) and not just in the domain name.

    The more competition or more important, the strength of the competition for any given keyword, will be the key to how long it will take to rank at the top for those keywords. So if it is easier to rank for "ugliest pink frogs" and the search volume is good, it would initially be better to go for that rather than just "pink Frogs" especially if you want to see some quick turnover.

    However you are, last but not least trying to rank for "pink Frogs", so do equally as many backlink anchor texts for those as well. Just don't expect to rank for them as quickly as the others

    When you backlink to your reviews posts or pages, you also need to know what you want to rank for E.g

    Do you want to rank for the exact model name in your review or guide, for example:

    original title: "ugliest pink frogs model 02345, with blue tail"
    or
    your version: "blue tailed pink frog"

    once again, you do some keyword research first and accordingly give your post a title and backlink with those words in the anchor text.

    If you don't want to go for the exact title E.g. the product title, then try using this free tool.."Google wonder wheel scraper" to get some ideas and check those keywords again in the keyword tool for search volume and competition/strength. Repeat this untill you find a good keyword.

    Most times the product name is absolutely sufficient in order to rank for your main keywords (Pink Frogs) on a post, as the product is 100% related to your main keywords, but sometimes when changed a little, it can work wonders.

    Just ensure that your keyword density for "Pink Frogs" is around 4%-5% on the home page (total posts excerpts+image ALTtext+links) and every single post has a keyword density for "pink frogs" of around 1.7-2.5%. This way you ensure that search engines know what your site is about and your keywords gain priority with time.

    Also use LSA keywords so as not to stuff the keywords(google loves LSA):

    Example, google interprets:

    a "Bread maker" as a "bread machine" and these words are also shown in GKWT or the above link. This additionaly makes article reading (for the potential buyers) more friendly too which is important. There is nothing worse than reading a review stuffed with the same keywords and you'll most likely lose the buyer and any rankings due to too little activity.(but the above percentages are good to read and good for SEO)

    Googles algorithm apparently attempts to interpret what a reader would see as value and they give a bonus to domain names that have related content. That was totally different a few years back.

    The year 2004 has long gone where domain names were in abundance. Nowadays it has become important to provide search engines and readers with a detailed map of content and that starts with the domain name and CLEAR navigational directives such as backlink anchor texts.

    Why do you think the majority of .com .org .info and .net are gone? It isn't because users are buying them, rather the Flippers are buying them out because they realize the cost of real estate or in this case "keyword orientated domain names"

    Today, If a reader sees www.airplanes.bla, he/she would expext to find infos about airplanes and not about pink frogs. The result would be that they leave the page and Google would symbolically do the same resulting in poor rankings and reviews that never get read.

    So always try to rank for your domain names in your anchor texts (with a new site) and use LSA combined with your main keywords in your content.

    Hope that helps

    TW
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    • Profile picture of the author cooler1
      @tigerwar.

      Thanks for the info.

      I understand now that having relevant backlinks is benificial in terms of ranking in the SERP's.

      The thing im unsure on is what backlink service to order as there is so many of them.

      There's a service here on the Warrior forum which provides 7000 forum profile backlinks for $12.95 and 400 high blog comments for $12.95

      Is this is the sort of service you use to outsource your backlinking? It doesn't say which niche the forums and blogs are so i presume they must be a variety of different niches.

      Neil V said that you shouldn't create backlinks from non-relevant sites or your site will get slapped by Google so im wary on which backlink service to order.

      He was talking about Hub Pages when he said that though. Do Hub Pages have stricter rules imposed by Google for backlinking than sites built with WordPress do?

      That's the only reason i can think why he said that you can't create backlinks from non-relevant sites
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      • Profile picture of the author tigerwar
        Hi Cooler,

        there is a big difference between a new site and an aged site in terms of credibility.

        If you open a new site up with 100 articles posted, you can almost guaranty that google will smell the autobot a mile away and keep your site at a low index to see how it developes. The same applies to backlinks and anyone telling you a different story, you can guaranty they are trying to sell you backlinks.

        Regarding the Backlinks in the post above; These will kill your website rankings if your site is NEW - END oF THE STORY- And it will take you 2 to 3x longer to recover from the slap which in turn might force you into throwing the towel due to lack of income.

        The backlinks as such and the service are very good but only for aged(over 1 year old) domains that already have been doing gradual backlinks.
        I mentioned above "credibility" - If you blast so many backlinks to a new website you will lose all credibility (google trust=0)
        Also the packages are cleverly designed - You should try to vary your anchor texts and these packages only allow 3 keywords. This means a variation is only possible if you buy more packages

        Nevertheless it is a good possibility for aged domains and a good WSO , so I am not knocking it.

        It is sufficient in 90% of the time when using Jan Roos system, to do "the normal" WEB 2.0 backlinking and "GRADUAL" backling in order to rank and earn money within 3-4 months (in a not so competitve niche -much faster sometimes), but if you try to force the situation, that will backfire 100% with ANY system.

        If the strength of the competition in your chosen niche is very strong, you'll have to vary your promotional tactics and not just simply try to blast backlinks to your website.

        I tend to believe (although this isn't proved anywhere!) that site relevancy carries more weight in backlinks than irrelevant sites, for example:

        dog site links to dog collars website = 10 points (symbolically)
        cat site links to dog collar website = 5 points

        Unfortunately I can't prove that!

        As far as Hubpages are concerned, the Google farmer update was aimed at those types of "content harvesters" to force them to reduce the possibilities of simply allowing anyone to make irrelevant links in order to gain link juice or fill their bank accounts by using an ad platform filled with "rubbish content".

        By using these authority domains such as Hubpages the real content writers and useful smaller blogs/websites were being swallowed up by domain authority and PR of these harvesters and not being ranked as they desrved to be. This in turn left them empty handed.
        It hurt many people (mostly spammers, about 12%) but the problem with such google updates, is that when rules are made, more way are invented to break them and the rat-race starts from the beginning.

        Basically, if you are offering quality then use hubpages to boost that quality. As long as you offer quality related content and don't try to cheat the system (initially) you will gain in the long run and last but not least, doing things the right way is in 99% the shortest and most profitable way. It simply entails more work initially.

        The problem is that most people are looking for that "magic Push Button" method and at best the whole system that should bring in a million dollars shouldn't cost more than $5.00.

        I wish people would stop dreaming. Due to these dreamers the Scam products explode in their variations and falsify the reality.

        hope that helps

        TW


        Google will first check the continuity

        Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

        @tigerwar.

        Thanks for the info.

        I understand now that having relevant backlinks is benificial in terms of ranking in the SERP's.

        The thing im unsure on is what backlink service to order as there is so many of them.

        There's a service here on the Warrior forum which provides 7000 forum profile backlinks for $12.95 and 400 high blog comments for $12.95

        Is this is the sort of service you use to outsource your backlinking? It doesn't say which niche the forums and blogs are so i presume they must be a variety of different niches.

        Neil V said that you shouldn't create backlinks from non-relevant sites or your site will get slapped by Google so im wary on which backlink service to order.

        He was talking about Hub Pages when he said that though. Do Hub Pages have stricter rules imposed by Google for backlinking than sites built with WordPress do?

        That's the only reason i can think why he said that you can't create backlinks from non-relevant sites
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  • Profile picture of the author seo-expert
    Backlinking should be as varied as possible. These backlinks should come from both nofollow and "dofollow" sites. But these backlinks shouldn't come from forum profiles only.

    There are other category websites that your site can take advantage of. Just make sure that these websites are relevant to your site's content.
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    • Profile picture of the author tigerwar
      Originally Posted by seo-expert View Post

      Backlinking should be as varied as possible. These backlinks should come from both nofollow and "dofollow" sites. But these backlinks shouldn't come from forum profiles only.

      There are other category websites that your site can take advantage of. Just make sure that these websites are relevant to your site's content.
      Hi man,

      This is something I believe as well.

      But as I said above, it is also something that I can't prove or verify anywhere on the internet, just many speculations and most of these coming from people selling backlinks. I have searched a lot of Matt Cutt's content with no results of confirmation.

      The point is, is that if I find your SEO content interesting and put a contextual backlink on my Dolfin site (totally irrelevant)...why would that be devalued?

      I might find it interesting and of value to my readers, so for myself and my readers it might be very important and possibly a great benefit.

      Where would google have the right to stipulate what is relevant to my readers or what is not relevant?

      TW
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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    @tigerwar.

    Thanks for the heads up. I'll stay away from that service then.

    Most backlink service providers say that you can't build too many backlinks to a site even if it's new because someone could just build a load of backlinks to their competitors site. I presume they must be saying that either so they get more orders or they may never have been effected by it.

    I bought Jan Roo's WSO but i haven't bought his video series. In the WSO he doesn't cover backlinking apart from mentioning 3waylinks.

    What sort of backlink service would be suitable for a site less than 1 month old?
    In the other thread you mentioned that you should build no more than around 20-25 backlinks per week for a new site.

    Is it worth paying extra to get edu backlinks or are standard backlinks from non edu sites good enough?
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    • Profile picture of the author tigerwar
      Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

      @tigerwar.

      Thanks for the heads up. I'll stay away from that service then.

      Most backlink service providers say that you can't build too many backlinks to a site even if it's new because someone could just build a load of backlinks to their competitors site. I presume they must be saying that either so they get more orders or they may never have been effected by it.

      I bought Jan Roo's WSO but i haven't bought his video series. In the WSO he doesn't cover backlinking apart from mentioning 3waylinks.

      What sort of backlink service would be suitable for a site less than 1 month old?
      In the other thread you mentioned that you should build no more than around 20-25 backlinks per week for a new site.

      Is it worth paying extra to get edu backlinks or are standard backlinks from non edu sites good enough?
      Honestly cooler, if I were you, I wouldn't even contemplate thinking about any "shiny promising" or unclarified backlinking strategies initially.

      This will do you more harm than good and I am speaking from many years of experience and testing(repeated testing on different sites after different google updates).

      Just do the normal Socialmark or Onlywire and throw out two to five articles to the article directories for the first month and then gradually and maually build your backlinks using E.g Joe118 pakets here on the forum.

      You can do this maually or outsource the job at fiverr.com.

      A simple and very effective way of automated backlinking is also in my sig but only if you continually add new posts to your blog, whether one or ten per week it doesn't matter, the process is automated within wordpress when the articles are published.

      What you can then do, is take the rss feeds from these social sites and enter them into a yahoo pipe, take that pipe and enter it at feedburner.com and feedagg.com. and enter their feeds into pingler.com to get them pinged every 3 days.

      That sound like a lot to do but it can easily be done by yourself and takes about an hour to set it up once and thereafter about two minutes to add a url or bulk urls to the pipes, the rest is then automated.

      I'm in the process of creating a PDF for this process to explain exactly how to do it. When I'm done I'll let you know



      After about two-three months and only if you've completed the "normal and gradual" social links you should be able to consider buying a SINGLE paket ONLY(not more) from E.g. the BacklinksForum , it doesn't have to these but...

      They are extremely effective,

      Just don't forget the golden rule - DON'T get carried away and stay with single packets initially - You need patience before blasting your sites with backlinks and it's so damned tempting to do it.

      Using Jan Roos's system, all of my sites get to #1 -#5 one page one of google and yahoo (for many top rewarding keywords) without doing ANY of the backlinksForum.com stuff but after 3-4 months I use them to build the authority which keeps my sites at the top.

      Hope that helps

      TW
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  • Profile picture of the author Jordan Kovats
    Pretty silly advice in the article if you ask me...
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  • Profile picture of the author tucan
    I mix it up. Sometimes no anchor text, different anchor text.

    Only the first external link's anchor text will be counted anyhow.
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    • Profile picture of the author tigerwar
      Originally Posted by tucan View Post

      I mix it up. Sometimes no anchor text, different anchor text.

      Only the first external link's anchor text will be counted anyhow.
      Hi tucan,

      That's not quite right

      You can have 2+ links with 2+ different anchor texts on one page and both+ pointing to DIFFERENT pages, they will BOTH+ be counted.

      But you can't have 2+ links on one page with different anchor texts pointing to the SAME page, then only the first would count

      cheers
      TW
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