Backlinks Energizer slow progress

13 years ago

I take it you're not backlinking your clusters, are you?

You need to give the SEs reason to crawl them = backlink the crap out of them.

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Natlex

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Grant

I take it you're not backlinking your clusters, are you?

You need to give the SEs reason to crawl them = backlink the crap out of them.

Yup, put some love behind your backlink energizer blogs. I also waited a couple of months before I made them auto submit articles.

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mrgee

13 years ago

This seems a bit crazy to me!
The purpose of back link energizer (I thought) was to help with getting my back links indexed. Now I am being told I need to back link the back links to the back links..? If you follow this theory then don't I need to then back link these back links that point to my energizer sites.. that then point to the money sites? Seems like a crazy never ending process..

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TomScarn

13 years ago

Originally Posted by mrgee

This seems a bit crazy to me!
The purpose of back link energizer (I thought) was to help with getting my back links indexed. Now I am being told I need to back link the back links to the back links..? If you follow this theory then don't I need to then back link these back links that point to my energizer sites.. that then point to the money sites? Seems like a crazy never ending process..

Sounds like you'll be building 3 links just to have 1 indexed? Try giving them some time to be found by Google. The more natural the process of finding the links, the better the results. By all means, don't go blasting Google with resubmitted URL's. Best of luck!

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dp40oz

13 years ago

Originally Posted by mrgee

This seems a bit crazy to me!
The purpose of back link energizer (I thought) was to help with getting my back links indexed. Now I am being told I need to back link the back links to the back links..? If you follow this theory then don't I need to then back link these back links that point to my energizer sites.. that then point to the money sites? Seems like a crazy never ending process..

Welcome to the wonderful world of SEO!

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4morereferrals

13 years ago

Originally Posted by mrgee

This seems a bit crazy to me!
The purpose of back link energizer (I thought) was to help with getting my back links indexed. Now I am being told I need to back link the back links to the back links..? If you follow this theory then don't I need to then back link these back links that point to my energizer sites.. that then point to the money sites? Seems like a crazy never ending process..

Im sorry you are not having hte results you want. I think we can help you get them - but there's a bit more to do now than their used to be.

Energizer - when first introduced ... i think were on iteration 6 of the software now ... leveraged web 2.0s that were crawled with much more voracity by google.

We lost vox - we lost wordpress.com pretty much ... and others follow suit and its been harder today after 3 algo changes to get G bot to the sites initially to crawl with the same frequency and voracity. So a few mods to the tactics were required...

- point backlinks to the web 2.0 clusters and SHWP sites.

Things change - we adapt and move forward.

"OMG ... Google is cracking down on these MFA adsense sites! If I want to keep my serps and my adsense account Im going to need to change the look and add more content. This is ridiculous! ... Its a never ending cycle to try and keep google happy!!!"

Sounds a lot like ...

"OMG - Google isnt crawling the web 2 social sites as much or in the same fashion as they used to!!!! Now Im going to have to build even more backlinks to some sites in order to keep ahead of google and have XYZ be as effective as it was 8 months ago ... This is just ridiculous!!!"

1. I hear similar chatter from folks all the time about their dissatisfaction about their indexation rates ...

- then i look a their feeds ... JUNK.
- then i see their keywords .... crap
- then i look at their links ... dead junk ...

I scan their links and find 25% off the top arent even indexable if you had Matt Cutts laptop and password - why? Because the pages the links are on are DEAD!

Feeds ... saving $7 and not getting and using some good feeds for the app is just sad. Use the feeds we offer up in the cluster pak add ons

KEYWORDS - dont use your $$$ site niche kws ...

- get my ex back | best acne cures | puppy training Transylvania | Grow Your Member .... I mean cmon people!!!

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mrgee

13 years ago

Originally Posted by 4morereferrals

Im sorry you are not having hte results you want. I think we can help you get them - but there's a bit more to do now than their used to be.

Energizer - when first introduced ... i think were on iteration 6 of the software now ... leveraged web 2.0s that were crawled with much more voracity by google.

We lost vox - we lost wordpress.com pretty much ... and others follow suit and its been harder today after 3 algo changes to get G bot to the sites initially to crawl with the same frequency and voracity. So a few mods to the tactics were required...

- point backlinks to the web 2.0 clusters and SHWP sites.

Things change - we adapt and move forward.

"OMG ... Google is cracking down on these MFA adsense sites! If I want to keep my serps and my adsense account Im going to need to change the look and add more content. This is ridiculous! ... Its a never ending cycle to try and keep google happy!!!"

Sounds a lot like ...

"OMG - Google isnt crawling the web 2 social sites as much or in the same fashion as they used to!!!! Now Im going to have to build even more backlinks to some sites in order to keep ahead of google and have XYZ be as effective as it was 8 months ago ... This is just ridiculous!!!"

1. I hear similar chatter from folks all the time about their dissatisfaction about their indexation rates ...

- then i look a their feeds ... JUNK.
- then i see their keywords .... crap
- then i look at their links ... dead junk ...

I scan their links and find 25% off the top arent even indexable if you had Matt Cutts laptop and password - why? Because the pages the links are on are DEAD!

Feeds ... saving $7 and not getting and using some good feeds for the app is just sad. Use the feeds we offer up in the cluster pak add ons

KEYWORDS - dont use your $$$ site niche kws ...

- get my ex back | best acne cures | puppy training Transylvania | Grow Your Member .... I mean cmon people!!!

To be honest you started by saying you could help.. But that's about it..
In fact ALL you are doing is insulting me by saying its all my fault.
My back links are still active.. my keywords are good.. but back links energizer is a DUD!
Stop flogging a dead horse..

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Natlex

13 years ago

Originally Posted by mrgee

To be honest you started by saying you could help.. But that's about it..
In fact ALL you are doing is insulting me by saying its all my fault.
My back links are still active.. my keywords are good.. but back links energizer is a DUD!
Stop flogging a dead horse..

I think he pretty much well defended his post, if you do not want to admit you might want to put some time into properly setting up your BLE network by choosing proper feeds, creating a few backlinks to them to get them going, optionally checking if your links all exist so you do not point to 404's etc then that's your problem at this point. BLE works and a lot of high end SEO's making way more money than me also use it, it's very useful if you put some time into it (like all things in SEO)

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mrgee

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Natlex

I think he pretty much well defended his post, if you do not want to admit you might want to put some time into properly setting up your BLE network by choosing proper feeds, creating a few backlinks to them to get them going, optionally checking if your links all exist so you do not point to 404's etc then that's your problem at this point. BLE works and a lot of high end SEO's making way more money than me also use it, it's very useful if you put some time into it (like all things in SEO)

Hmm.. perhaps I did not make it clear enough.. but my clusters are getting good feeds.. most of them were supplied in the BL energizer package I bought.. I check on the clusters every 2 days or so.. so I don't just let them run unattended.. I have removed ( and replaced) feeds on occasions when they change from being a full rss to only a partial rss.. I randomly check links in this process and the back links are all still active no 404's.. As far as I can see I am doing everything correctly but am not getting any results!

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4morereferrals

13 years ago

Originally Posted by mrgee

Hmm.. perhaps I did not make it clear enough.. but my clusters are getting good feeds.. most of them were supplied in the BL energizer package I bought.. I check on the clusters every 2 days or so.. so I don't just let them run unattended.. I have removed ( and replaced) feeds on occasions when they change from being a full rss to only a partial rss.. I randomly check links in this process and the back links are all still active no 404's.. As far as I can see I am doing everything correctly but am not getting any results!

Dunno man ... I got like two hundred of these I could post ... I know u think I was ragging on you ... but i do really want you to have success with it.

Backlink Energizer Q & A Thread

I haven't done exact tracking, but I can tell you this flat out works for getting stuff indexed. I started with just a few self-hosted wordpress blogs and web 2.0 properties, did a few backlinks to those, and then was patient when beginning. I only setup 3 links per post and 4-5 posts a day for the first few weeks.

Now, I just bought the self-hosted blog package and am getting those setup (a few are getting fixed) but I expect the good results to continue.

To potential buyers: Be patient guys. Read through the thread. This isn't an overnight solution, but it does work pretty quickly. For the cost it can't be beat.

Once a google indexing check feature implemented it will really kick butt.

Its odd .. I have people emailing me about their successes all the time and advising they are even building entire homegrown applications around the app and automating even more aspects ...

Really not sure what to say. One guy in particular in the pharma niche - competing for some uber hard core terms and a brilliant php developer has scaled this to levels most people would never dream of - and its one of the main tools in their over all SEO arsenal ...

Its one thing to claim YOU have no success with it but yet another to classify as a DUD. but alas ...

good luck.

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4morereferrals

13 years ago

My back links are still active.. my keywords are good.. but back links energizer is a DUD!

was referring to the stuff "people" try and put into energizer vs. the recommended methods - then they claim it doesnt work.

Sorry it isnt working for you.

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trytolearnmore

13 years ago

I bought the Backlinks Energizers and ordered the clusters. Can't say that I was particularly amazed by the results, that's why i did the following:

1) Got BacklinksBooster.com ( I never trust only 1 tool)
2) Added all feeds from my cluster websites to Ping.fm

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4morereferrals

13 years ago

Originally Posted by trytolearnmore

I bought the Backlinks Energizers and ordered the clusters. Can't say that I was particularly amazed by the results, that's why i did the following:

1) Got BacklinksBooster.com ( I never trust only 1 tool)
2) Added all feeds from my cluster websites to Ping.fm

Good idea ... Heres another 2 ...

1. toss ALL your web 2 and shwp clusters into linkliscious.me for a couple weeks .

2. build 5 energizers that do nothing but ... build links to the urls of all your OTHER web 2 and shwp sites that are indexing your links.

3. get the shwp cluster paks or build your own and ... take the rss feeds off all the sites and intermingle them onto the shwp sites via the RSS widgets on the sidebars :-) 10 posts per feed - add 4 rss widgets to each of your shwp blogs .... Use 4 other sites in THAT cluster to use as the feeds.

For example... a cluster of web 2 and shwp:

jonesa.typepad.com
jonesa.blogspot.com
jonesa.posterous.com
jonesa.livejournal.com
jonesa.multiply.com
jonesa.wordpress.com

+ these SHWP sites

jonesa.some-shwp-install.com
jonesa.some-shwp-install2.com

You could now take the the rss feed off

jonesa.some-shwp-install.com

and add it to the side bar in a rss widget of

jonesa.some-shwp-install2.com

and vice versa.

then take the available rss feeds off all the web 2 sites above that offer and put them all on :

jonesa.some-shwp-install.com
jonesa.some-shwp-install2.com

Via wordpress rss feed sidebar widgets.

Set you SHWP blogs home page post counts to 35-55 ... I like to mix mine up. blog 1 33 posts - blog 2 45 posts - blog 3 51 posts ... blah.

Doing this as above described - and keeping it all within the same cluster [ if you will ] you keep all the content themed and on the same topics. Whether its all related topical content or not - not sure if that is imperative - and I have mixed celeb themed blogs with MMA and all around - and the above steps DO HELP with crawl and indexation rates.

At the end of setting up the Energizer system and network and getting a gaggle o cluster paks from us ... at the end of this process - as compared to many of the other indexing systems and services ... what are you left with?

I have over 20 web 2 sites now with PR - ranging from 1-4. and I will rotate those out and re use for direct links to $$$ pages via some topical posts and in-content links.

Other methods - though seemingly more hands free and more copy and paste - you get a hole in wallet [ for links indexed ] ...

Im building PR and an absolute ton of web 2 and shwp properties indexed and loaded with contents.

More work and time upfront ... longer term payoff and dividends.

Happy Indexing!!!

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wadboram

13 years ago

I used BLE with all the know how tips and directions mentioned in the manual to energize about 650 links from about 2 weeks and I got not more than a fraction of them indexed..... what could be wrong or it should take more than this?

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4morereferrals

13 years ago

Originally Posted by wadboram

I used BLE with all the know how tips and directions mentioned in the manual to energize about 650 links from about 2 weeks and I got not more than a fraction of them indexed..... what could be wrong or it should take more than this?

You used it a whole solid 2 weeks and got only a fraction of indexation?

1. How many energizer installs did u have working for those two whole weeks?

2. How did u even get any backlinks to the web 2 cluster and shwp blog sites you were posting to - in < 2 weeks?

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wadboram

13 years ago

Originally Posted by 4morereferrals

You used it a whole solid 2 weeks and got only a fraction of indexation?

1. How many energizer installs did u have working for those two whole weeks?

2. How did u even get any backlinks to the web 2 cluster and shwp blog sites you were posting to - in < 2 weeks?

1. I have one BL Energizer on a fresh new Wordpress site
2. All Web 2.0 sites are having my posts except Wordpress (account suspended) and Live Journal (need paid account)
3. I have one new SHWP having the posts too
4. Configuration = Links per post: 4
Posts per day: 8
Feed Source Link: YES

Most of links that need to be energized are articles links and profile accounts
My backlinks before BLE were around 90 and after using it they were around 94

I started using it on 17.3 and finished posting on 4.4 ( for about 18 days) and so far I can see a very slow progress in my backlinks

What could be wrong?

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Ansari

13 years ago

I am seeing very good indexing rates from my Backlink Energizer set up. Even crappy profile links get indexed at 50% and above, and 80-90% for spun articles from blog networks.

Not only do I get good index rates but every time my BE clusters post a new post it gets indexed within minutes.

The key is to build around 300+ backlinks to your clusters and around 4 - 5 weeks to mature.

This isn’t a crazy never ending backlinkg process. It is actually quite simple. Just build some links to your clusters and watch your index rates go up.

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mrgee

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Ansari

I am seeing very good indexing rates from my Backlink Energizer set up. Even crappy profile links get indexed at 50% and above, and 80-90% for spun articles from blog networks.

Not only do I get good index rates but every time my BE clusters post a new post it gets indexed within minutes.

The key is to build around 300+ backlinks to your clusters and around 4 - 5 weeks to mature.

This isn't a crazy never ending backlinkg process. It is actually quite simple. Just build some links to your clusters and watch your index rates go up.

So if I have like 7 clusters are you talking about 300X7 back links?
Cause if you are that's an awful lot of extra work.. I don't remember this being mentioned in the sales pitch when I bought the product..

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Ansari

13 years ago

Originally Posted by mrgee

So if I have like 7 clusters are you talking about 300X7 back links?
Cause if you are that's an awful lot of extra work.. I don't remember this being mentioned in the sales pitch when I bought the product..

If that's too much work for you, buy aged domains with links already pointing to them.

My BE network consists of my own self hosted Wordpress blogs, and i have bought a few aged domains from Godaddy for my BE network.

I have seen good indexing from them right out of the box. I only buy PR2's for my network that are more then 3 yeas old with a good amount of links already pointing to them for around $18.

Getting my links indexed has played an huge role in getting many sites to page 1, so for me it's worth putting in the time and effort in to my BE indexing network.

Most people say profile links are worthless and technically they are right. However, thanks to my indexing network profile links still help me move up the SERPS.

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Matt Ward

13 years ago

I've been using BLE, and I currently stand at about a 50% overall indexation rate (accounting for links that are not indexable.) Not the best, but still very good. You have to put some time and effort into getting decent clusters going. I can guarantee that the people complaining about 1-2% index rates have probably just thrown the links into blogs Google doesn't even know exists.

It's by no means a push-button solution, even though it is kind of advertised that way. The sales page makes it sound like you will have links indexed left and right as soon as you buy it. Doesn't really work that way, but it does become that way once you put the effort into getting your clusters working well, however.

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mrgee

13 years ago

Originally Posted by mattward

I've been using BLE, and I currently stand at about a 50% overall indexation rate (accounting for links that are not indexable.) Not the best, but still very good. You have to put some time and effort into getting decent clusters going. I can guarantee that the people complaining about 1-2% index rates have probably just thrown the links into blogs Google doesn't even know exists.

It's by no means a push-button solution, even though it is kind of advertised that way. The sales page makes it sound like you will have links indexed left and right as soon as you buy it. Doesn't really work that way, but it does become that way once you put the effort into getting your clusters working well, however.

OK .. all this talk about how good it is "IF" you have your clusters working right.. But what does that mean.. Can someone give me an explanation?? My clusters all look pretty good.. they are media rich with lots of pics and video and text..each cluster is theme based .. I have now 6 web 2.0 clusters supplied with the BE package + 2 self hosted blogs + another 2 self hosted that just link to the web 2.0 clusters.. all this and hardly any links indexed?? like 6 out of 300

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