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Is AMR still effective after the Panda update?

by junilerick
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Like the title suggests, is AMR losing its effectiveness after all the article directories took a hit? Is article submissions still one of the most important aspects of link building or have you changed the focus of your typical linking campaign?
#amr #effective #panda #update
  • Profile picture of the author arshavin
    I'm also interested in this.
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    • Profile picture of the author InTheMaking
      there are only so many ways to obtain a backlink,

      article directories
      web 2.0's
      blog comments
      profiles
      contextual links
      link directories
      paid links

      So obviously article directories still hold their value, but obviously it's going to be better to get those links using white hat methods rather than black hat.

      From my understanding It still is an effective method, as it always will. The Panda update devalued profile links, that's all I know.

      But don't take someones advice, do some tests and find out yourself.
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      • Profile picture of the author junilerick
        Originally Posted by InTheMaking View Post

        there are only so many ways to obtain a backlink,

        article directories
        web 2.0's
        blog comments
        profiles
        contextual links
        link directories
        paid links

        So obviously article directories still hold their value, but obviously it's going to be better to get those links using white hat methods rather than black hat.

        From my understanding It still is an effective method, as it always will. The Panda update devalued profile links, that's all I know.

        But don't take someones advice, do some tests and find out yourself.
        Yeah I agree that testing is always the best way and is something that is being pretty severely underplayed. I was thinking of doing some tests and had it all planned out to build around 6 or 7 sites for a case study of different link services, software, types of links, on-page SEO, different types of keywords, and all that. But the problem is that I just don't have the resources to do something like that at the moment.

        Eventually I will do more testing, but I think right now I should just invest in something small to get the ball rolling. It might not be the most cost-effective method but at least I'll get some return or at least less money down the toilet - money that I can't afford being a student and all.
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        • Profile picture of the author InTheMaking
          Originally Posted by junilerick View Post

          Yeah I agree that testing is always the best way and is something that is being pretty severely underplayed. I was thinking of doing some tests and had it all planned out to build around 6 or 7 sites for a case study of different link services, software, types of links, on-page SEO, different types of keywords, and all that. But the problem is that I just don't have the resources to do something like that at the moment.

          Eventually I will do more testing, but I think right now I should just invest in something small to get the ball rolling. It might not be the most cost-effective method but at least I'll get some return or at least less money down the toilet - money that I can't afford being a student and all.
          I get where your coming from. I'm only 18 still in grade 12.
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          • Profile picture of the author junilerick
            Originally Posted by InTheMaking View Post

            I get where your coming from. I'm only 18 still in grade 12.
            Cool how long have you been doing this and what kind of success have you had so far?
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            • Profile picture of the author InTheMaking
              Originally Posted by junilerick View Post

              Cool how long have you been doing this and what kind of success have you had so far?
              I started about 3 months ago, I'm actually at about 30/day. With some days being more and some days being way less.

              Trying to learn everything at the most, while trying not to make too many mistakes.
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      • Profile picture of the author JLu
        Originally Posted by InTheMaking View Post

        there are only so many ways to obtain a backlink,

        article directories
        web 2.0's
        blog comments
        profiles
        contextual links
        link directories
        paid links

        So obviously article directories still hold their value, but obviously it's going to be better to get those links using white hat methods rather than black hat.

        From my understanding It still is an effective method, as it always will. The Panda update devalued profile links, that's all I know.
        Noob question, but if you were to rank them in terms of value, how would you rank them?
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        • Profile picture of the author Droopy Dawg
          Rank them however you like... the key is to get backlink from relevant/high authority/PR pages.

          A Backlink from a PAGE PR 4 carries more weight that a link from a DOMAIN PR4 (with a page PR of zero).

          Hope that helps.

          Originally Posted by JLu View Post

          Noob question, but if you were to rank them in terms of value, how would you rank them?
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  • Profile picture of the author sporkmarketing
    Short answer: Not really, but it can't hurt. Just don't make it a priority.

    Most of the prominent article sites lost massive amounts of search traffic in Panda. That means that Google no longer finds them authoritative or trustworthy. Therefore, a link from eZineArticles isn't going to help you nearly as much as it used to.

    However, that doesn't mean that articles aren't a good source of traffic (they can be), nor does it mean that they're not worth doing. All it means is that, if you have limited time and or money, there are other areas I would work on first.

    I've seen a big push for guest blog posting very recently in the SEO community...lots of people are increasing their efforts in that area. Based on my own work, it's the most effective link building you can do short of honest-to-goodness link bait.
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    • Profile picture of the author FredJones
      I guess it is still good - as long as you get your links indexed it would still create a difference to your rankings. At least I see enough people still getting results.
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      • Profile picture of the author sporkmarketing
        Originally Posted by FredJones View Post

        I guess it is still good - as long as you get your links indexed it would still create a difference to your rankings. At least I see enough people still getting results.
        I emphasized your point about indexing because that's the crux of the issue. Most of the article sites out there don't get cached. That's why it only makes sense to submit to the best quality sites, and you don't need AMR for that.
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        • Profile picture of the author FredJones
          Agree - best quality sites produce best quality results. Which is why so many people are seeing great results with BMR and ALN nowadays.

          You don't need AMR for all the best sites, but it does help to get more indexed links. I mean, if you have your article and have your AMR, why not submit if you also have the bandwidth? And if you decide to submit, what's the harm in capturing the links that went live and getting them indexed to whatever extent that you can, given that you have the time and energy to do that?

          Originally Posted by sporkmarketing View Post

          I emphasized your point about indexing because that's the crux of the issue. Most of the article sites out there don't get cached. That's why it only makes sense to submit to the best quality sites, and you don't need AMR for that.
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          • Profile picture of the author sporkmarketing
            The harm is that it makes your site look spammy. For everyone that has your attitude about AMR, there are 10 people who rely upon it exclusively.

            Birds of a feather.
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            • Profile picture of the author packerfan
              100 ways to skin a cat. I'm a fan of AMR, I get results, but this is for easy to rank for keywords.

              I also use BMR and see good results.

              I also manually post on blogs.

              I also guest post.

              etc, etc, etc.

              Everything you do needs to be part of your plan. Short answer is yes it's still effective, but only if used properly. Like any software.
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  • Profile picture of the author TBInternetMarketing
    I would say it is from the point that you will get some backlinks to your site which have the anchor text in them. Of course the backlinks don't have a high PR, but it is better than nothing in my opinion and builds a nice base for your link strategy.
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