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13 years ago

What page are you on, common G penalties are -30 and -100.

Also it could be just a dance, give it a few days to a week and see if they rebound. Personally I'd get back to work plugging LEGIT looking backlinks and adding some fresh content as that never hurts.

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RedWaterDub 13 years ago

Originally Posted by noble

What page are you on, common G penalties are -30 and -100.

What does that mean? are you saying if it turns up on page 30 or page 100 in SERPs it means it has been penalized?

It isn't even in the top 1000 pages
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jhnbrwn

13 years ago

Means, if would have penalized for any reason, the ranking would be decreased by any number between -30 to -100.

Still, try to avoid get involve with bad neighbors, it really hurts.

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RedWaterDub

13 years ago

Originally Posted by jhnbrwn

Means, if would have penalized for any reason, the ranking would be decreased by any number between -30 to -100.

Still, try to avoid get involve with bad neighbors, it really hurts.

Regards

What is a bad neighbour exactly...I mean would you call BMR.com a bad neighbor?
or perhaps using senuke?

The only one I am associated with is ezarticlelink.com Is that a bad neighbour?

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Fraggler

13 years ago

Your front page seems to have a filter applied to it. It will come back but time fram is hard.

A search for the phrase "Welcome to Atkins Diet Recipes where you will learn all about diets for quick weight loss with the Atkins Diet Plan." from your home page returns a tag page, not the obvious and more relevant homepage.

This isn't keyword related.

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RedWaterDub

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Fraggler

Your front page seems to have a filter applied to it. It will come back but time fram is hard.

A search for the phrase "Welcome to Atkins Diet Recipes where you will learn all about diets for quick weight loss with the Atkins Diet Plan." from your home page returns a tag page, not the obvious and more relevant homepage.

This isn't keyword related.

Thanks for that, i have corrected that now...but that would not be the reason for such a drop in the rankings I'm sure

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Fraggler

13 years ago

Originally Posted by RedWaterDub

Thanks for that, i have corrected that now...but that would not be the reason for such a drop in the rankings I'm sure

Sorry, I wasn't saying that was the reason or the cause. I'm just saying that your front page is either being filtered for some reason OR it has been penalised.

It also shows that the problem isn't related to a keyword but to your homepage in general.

I'm not going to speculate what may have caused it or if it is just a short term adjustment because I don't know the sites history or the way you have built and promoted it.

If you have done anything that may cause a penalty then remove the changes detail those changes to Google or simply just sit back and wait it out.

Since it isn't being returned for such a long and unique phrase it makes me believe it isn't just a shift in rankings.

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RedWaterDub

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Fraggler

Sorry, I wasn't saying that was the reason or the cause. I'm just saying that your front page is either being filtered for some reason OR it has been penalised.

It also shows that the problem isn't related to a keyword but to your homepage in general.

I'm not going to speculate what may have caused it or if it is just a short term adjustment because I don't know the sites history or the way you have built and promoted it.

If you have done anything that may cause a penalty then remove the changes detail those changes to Google or simply just sit back and wait it out.

Since it isn't being returned for such a long and unique phrase it makes me believe it isn't just a shift in rankings.

Sorry I don't understand what you mean? How do you make these deductions from that phrase? Why is that phrase so significant?
The only thing I have done to this page recently is added the pop up form...

what is being filtered mean?

How do I fix that?

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Fraggler

13 years ago

Originally Posted by RedWaterDub

Sorry I don't understand what you mean? How do you make these deductions from that phrase? Why is that phrase so significant?
The only thing I have done to this page recently is added the pop up form...

what is being filtered mean?

How do I fix that?

Originally Posted by Terry Gorry

Fraggler
why do you say his front page is being filtered or penalised?

Terry

I use the phrase because it is unique to your page that is having issues. That phrase should return your homepage at the number 1 spot, unless it is doing the mystical Google dance or is being filtered. You can make your own assumption on what it is but the fact remains that Google doesn't want to return your homepage for even the most long tail keyword that is unique to your site.

You can also use your 'trademark' (domain name without the extension) to see how Google is treating your homepage. This doesn't work too well with your site though because this trademark is also a very competitive keyword.

You can however see down at around the 40 mark that an inner page of yours is being returned for the phrase "atkins diet recipes" (minus the quotes).

Once again this shows that Google has an issue with your homepage and I assume it is the one you have been building backlinks too. This is a common way of finding out if something is wrong and that you haven't just lost some rank to a better site.

It might be a temporary glitch, penalty or filter. I can only make assumptions based on my own knowledge. I am probably totally wrong.
What I do know is that it is not a relevancy or an authority issue (it doesn't matter what search query you chuck at it).

I have had the problem occur to my sites in the past and they are usually around the same age as what you have said. Some come back after a couple of weeks, most take months, some haven't come back.

I haven't been reading up on the problems people have been having recently so maybe you are hopefully experiencing something they are.

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by RedWaterDub

Hi Warriors,

I have a site Atkins Diet Recipes | Plan Food List | Weight Loss Plan. I managed to get it on the first page of SERPs for keyword "atkins diet recipes" which was good. It stayed there for months going up and down but always on the first page...NOW suddenly it has disappeared completely...It is still indexed but it isn't even in the top 1000...What the hell happened?

I don't think it has breached any google guidelines...i don't think so anyway

Your ideas would be appreciated...Thank you

How old is your site?

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RedWaterDub 13 years ago

Originally Posted by strategic seo services

How old is your site?

It is about 4 months old ...
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- strategic seo services 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by RedWaterDub
  
  It is about 4 months old ...
  
  It is very normal for newer sites to fluctuate in the SERPs. As your site ages, the rankings will stabilize.
  
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Peter Clark

13 years ago

This has been happening to A LOT of sites in the last 24 hours, just check the rest of the threads in this forum, Google is in the middle of a BIG dance right about now.

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App Developers

13 years ago

this has happened to me a few times but they always come back and often in a better position. Not sure why or how.......but don't panic and keep on building!

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kumar125

13 years ago

Hi All
All are good comments and amny info in the comments, so thanks for all sharing that ideas.

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diyakapoor

13 years ago

I have fully checked your website. It has been penalized by Google. Homepage content is no more indexed. Your website is in sandbox. Solution is to re-write the content of your website and send re-consideration request to Google.

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RedWaterDub

13 years ago

Originally Posted by diyakapoor

I have fully checked your website. It has been penalized by Google. Homepage content is no more indexed. Your website is in sandbox. Solution is to re-write the content of your website and send re-consideration request to Google.

Thanks very much for letting me know that.

But why? Can you tell me why please?

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Billy Rey

13 years ago

no penalty, its just normal. Youll come back within 2 weeks, if not then wait up to 3 months. Happens to anyone.

It will be back, if you have a backlinking process for it already, just continue it while you work on the next project.

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RedWaterDub

13 years ago

Originally Posted by marklee99

There are so many ways to improve your site traffic and Ranking like -
1. You can submit your website to search engines. By little research on Google you will find few free websites and some low paid but really good once. (3-4 weeks)

2. You can submit articles. If you are good at writing articles, write and submit yourself if not, then you can pay someone to do it for you, they are inexpensive. (3-4 weeks)

3. You can submit your website i directories and social networks. Some of social networking sites are: Facebook, Tweeter, Youtube, Myspace & Daceband.

That's all very well but if your site is in the sandbox...you first have to get it out before you worry about getting rankings and my main page has been completely de-indexed (like diyakapoor said) so I need to know why so I can rebuild the page without making the same mistakes...

I really cant see why it was de-indexed but it is... I have checked as well and it's gone...the other pages are all there although way down but they are still there, so something weird is happening. I think somebody may have hacked me or something...

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13 years ago

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RedWaterDub

13 years ago

Originally Posted by PVSInternational

It's not penalizes fully, It's 50 penalize and I think it may be for PANDA update

Yeah I believe you...I think it is because I have too many keywords in the first post and the 2nd and 3rd posts have some duplicates,

Do you say 50 penalize because it is only the homepage that is de-indexed and not the other pages?

Or do you have some other guru method of knowing that it has definitely been 50% penalized?...because if you do,, please share?

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isxrc

13 years ago

This happened to my site as well. I was ranking well on the first or second page for my main keyword and then all of a sudden I was nowhere to be seen. I had read about the "sandbox" and "google dance" and other theories, so decided to wait and just continued building links and writing quality posts.

A few weeks later I was back! My site was stronger than ever and since then I have been cemented on page 1.

As long as you haven't used any black hat techniques I would not worry. You will be back on again soon.

Good luck!

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RedWaterDub

13 years ago

Originally Posted by isxrc

This happened to my site as well. I was ranking well on the first or second page for my main keyword and then all of a sudden I was nowhere to be seen. I had read about the "sandbox" and "google dance" and other theories, so decided to wait and just continued building links and writing quality posts.

A few weeks later I was back! My site was stronger than ever and since then I have been cemented on page 1.

As long as you haven't used any black hat techniques I would not worry. You will be back on again soon.

Good luck!

Yeah that has happened with me too..BUT only when the site was penalized and de-ranked...not sandboxed. Google will put your site way down like on page 500 or something and then you can build it back up like you say...but if it has actually been de-indexed, that's a different story. When that happens the only way to get it back on the registrar is to ASK...resubmit and THEN you can build it back after they add it on again.
And my homepage has been DE-INDEXED

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aupneetboparai

13 years ago

i have a website named orkutjunks which provides free orkut scraps.
I did a lot of work on this site for different keywords like orkut Images and sexy scraps.

Now my website is in top 2 positions for these two keywords.

I submitted articles, social bookmarking, directory submission, link building.
Stumbleupon, digg and reddit are the best ones

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isxrc

13 years ago

You said in your original post it was still indexed? what makes you think it has now been de-indexed? have you heard from google or tried to contact them?

Your site looks fine to me. Try also adding a privacy page and contact us form (there are wp plugins for this). I believe this is something they mention in their webmaster info.

[EDIT] Mine was also completely de-indexed in Google. I was only getting searches through other engines by the way.

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RedWaterDub

13 years ago

Originally Posted by isxrc

You said in your original post it was still indexed? what makes you think it has now been de-indexed? have you heard from google or tried to contact them?

Your site looks fine to me. Try also adding a privacy page and contact us form (there are wp plugins for this). I believe this is something they mention in their webmaster info.

[EDIT] Mine was also completely de-indexed in Google. I was only getting searches through other engines by the way.

Yes i did think it was still indexed as I found some of its pages but I have learned that's not the case thru reading this thread ...as some have said on this here "...it is only the main page that has been de-indexed..." just try and find it on google...I bet you cant...it's not there...only the other pages are.
And i already do have those contact and privacy pages..you can find their links at the very bottom.

So I need to find out why...I have my suspicions but is that really the reason to de-index? If google de-index a page for having duplicate content ..then that's tuff...I am still not convinced that is the reason or the keyword stuffing..because..come on , it's not that bad is it?

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milczy 13 years ago

When I type your domain into google.com.au you come up first. So you haven't been deindexed because I get results for your root domain. Have you read the thread about google panda?

Sorry I can't post the link because I don't have enough posts yet

There is something weird going on at the moment. I have an Australian site which dropped out of the top 1000 for my keywords and yesterday was ranked 30!
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- RedWaterDub 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by milczy
  
  When I type your domain into google.com.au you come up first.
  
  ...really i cant see it ?
  
  I think you mistake my domain with atkinsdietrecipe.net My one has an 's" at the end.
  
  but when i type " site:atkinsdietrecipes.net " it shows up so maybe it hasn't been de-indexed...but still it's nowhere to be seen in regular serps.
  
  Does anybody know any other reasons other than dupe content, keyword stuffing, and bad neighborhood methods that the google panda update has affected?
  
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  milczy 13 years ago
  
  I didn't mistake it because I realised there was one without the s but yours had an s.
  
  Have you read the panda thread?
  
  It's on the front page of this forum section. something weird is going on. people's MAIN sites are disappearing and ones they haven't even looked at for months are reappearing!
  
  Go to the posts from today in that thread. You will see lots of people have weird things happening with their sites.
  
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- Fraggler 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by milczy
  
  When I type your domain into google.com.au you come up first. So you haven't been deindexed because I get results for your root domain.
  
  The domain (with extension) is the only thing it does come up for though. The long tails still don't return a thing. I agree with you that it hasn't be deindexed. Deindexing will take out all pages. site:domain.com won't return a thing.
  
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  RedWaterDub 13 years ago
  
  Well..that's good..I will rewrite the dupe content , lower the keyword density , add a couple more unique articles and then build more backlinks...
  
  I dont think I will resubmit it to google as I have now changed my mind again from your posts into believing it is not de-indexed but just penalized and if I do what I just said it should come back
  
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charliesheen

13 years ago

Wow, so many people with different thoughts.

This happens to all of my sites, usually when it disappears it comes back stronger. I check all my pages with Rankchecker frequently and they "dance" like this. Don't worry about it, as long as you work on your page with new content and backlinks.

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milczy

13 years ago

Originally Posted by charliesheen

Wow, so many people with different thoughts.

This happens to all of my sites, usually when it disappears it comes back stronger. I check all my pages with Rankchecker frequently and they "dance" like this. Don't worry about it, as long as you work on your page with new content and backlinks.

Just to clarify my post before. I have 5 websites and it has happened to ALL of them in the past couple of days!

In the thread about google panda there are MANY people that have been affected in the past couple of days with whatever google are doing.

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charliesheen

13 years ago

Originally Posted by milczy

Just to clarify my post before. I have 5 websites and it has happened to ALL of them in the past couple of days!

In the thread about google panda there are MANY people that have been affected in the past couple of days with whatever google are doing.

They are all probably new? I assume that they are "young" and Google is testing to see if they are capable and relevant to that keyword by arranging-rearranging and I guess that they do count click ratio as well, this is something that I haven't heard by anyone yet, but I'm guessing that.

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lespritb

13 years ago

Hello, I think I was before

bcz not it's NIL
May be penalize from google...

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BXPS

13 years ago

my site is 6 months old and was ranked one in google & have the same issue 2 days ago it completly dissapeared from google!

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dagaul101

13 years ago

It could be that most of its backlinks came from sites that have fallen foul of the Google Panda algorithm, and your site has been punished as a consequence

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13 years ago

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niplag 13 years ago

I have two sites, one that is about 8 years old and another about 3-4 years. I used BMR to build links and then they disappeared from the top keyword search. One of them was on page one poss. 4. I could put it down to Panda or I could put it down to BMR. The fact is I really don't know and nobody else does. We are playing a game where the goal posts keep moving and we are guessing at the rules.

Build more content and ethical links. And hope that it comes back.
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Inner Athlete

13 years ago

I had a similar problem with two sites. both were only a few months old!

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