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Derek S

13 years ago

Your facts are wrong... Last update to the toolbar was January

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karismasand

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Derek S

Your facts are wrong... Last update to the toolbar was January

Indeed, Google has made a rank update in January 2011 but only until 10 June 2010.

Google changed the algorithm and are updated with a delay of one year. For example, if a site on the net today barely climb over a year will see the Page Rank on it, no matter how many updates will Google do in this period.

This measure was taken primarily to "kill" those who sell and buy links and secondly to have available a year to develop a quality site without knowing where you are if you understand what I mean.

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KirkMcD

13 years ago

Originally Posted by karismasand

Indeed, Google has made a rank update in January 2011 but only until 10 June 2010.

And how did you acquire this information?

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karismasand

13 years ago

Originally Posted by KirkMcD

And how did you acquire this information?

Hi KirkMcD ...

Check page rank for the iner pages of a large website ...

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Carl Brown

13 years ago

yeah, and it affects big names as well. Last summer Glenn Beck started a very successful website called "The Blaze" and it sits at PR0. A website like this, should be at around PR6 by now. They have an alexa rating of 2k

The same company just started a new streaming video site days ago and it has a PR2 already. This one I can't figure out unless they purchased the domain.

My latest batch of sites for the last 6 months are all PR0. I personally like the little green bar. I think google is taking it away from us

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karismasand

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Carl Brown

yeah, and it affects big names as well. Last summer Glenn Beck started a very successful website called "The Blaze" and it sits at PR0. A website like this, should be at around PR6 by now. They have an alexa rating of 2k

The same company just started a new streaming video site days ago and it has a PR2 already. This one I can't figure out unless they purchased the domain.

My latest batch of sites for the last 6 months are all PR0. I personally like the little green bar. I think google is taking it away from us

Hi Carl,

Google without Page Rank is like Tom without Jerry.

I'm sure that will not give the page rank, on the contrary, its value will weigh heavily now on. That's the idea, will tell us that the PR is not so important to focus more on content.

Think what chaos would be if there an indicator to classify sites.

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halfpoint 13 years ago

Regardless of a toolbar update PR still changes on individual sites constantly.

I've had plenty of domains with fluctuating PR, as per usual, over the last few months.
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MikeFriedman

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Carl Brown

yeah, and it affects big names as well. Last summer Glenn Beck started a very successful website called "The Blaze" and it sits at PR0. A website like this, should be at around PR6 by now. They have an alexa rating of 2k

The same company just started a new streaming video site days ago and it has a PR2 already. This one I can't figure out unless they purchased the domain.

My latest batch of sites for the last 6 months are all PR0. I personally like the little green bar. I think google is taking it away from us

LOL... Anything with Glenn Beck's name attached to it should have a negative pagerank.

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JSProjects 13 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

LOL... Anything with Glenn Beck's name attached to it should have a negative pagerank.

LOL. I was thinking the same thing.
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Carl Brown 13 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

LOL... Anything with Glenn Beck's name attached to it should have a negative pagerank.

Not interested in your political opinions here. I am discussing an anomaly of the pagerank system. The fact is that a site that gets more traffic than you could ever imagine getting in your lifetime, is stuck at pr0 after nearly a year is the point. Let's focus people
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KirkMcD

13 years ago

Originally Posted by karismasand

Check page rank for the iner pages of a large website ...

Ok and where does the date show?

Are you basing it on the date of the page? Because I checked a page that was created late January of this year and it has a published PR.
Function 4 Sports. Free Burton snowboard with Ride boot and bindings.

So how did you come up with Jun 10, 2010?

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karismasand

13 years ago

Originally Posted by KirkMcD

Ok and where does the date show?

Are you basing it on the date of the page? Because I checked a page that was created late January of this year and it has a published PR.
Function 4 Sports. Free Burton snowboard with Ride boot and bindings.

So how did you come up with Jun 10, 2010?

Ok, let's start:

1. access this link: News June 2010 : Nature

2. Go to articles published on 10, 9, 8, 7, June, etc. and you will see that these have page rank

3. Go to articles published on 11, 12, June, July, August...etc and you will see that these don't have page rank

If you are skeptical check the archive for more sites and then come and tell me what conclusion you come

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tanaris

13 years ago

Originally Posted by karismasand

Indeed, Google has made a rank update in January 2011 but only until 10 June 2010.

Not June 2010 but April 2010. And this year, the last update was on January 2011 (which is correct). Most of my website PRs decreased. Some from PR 3 became PR 1 and there are also sites that sunk down to 0. Odd right? But the strangest thing happen just this month. My PR 0 website suddenly got a PR 3 :confused:

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karismasand

13 years ago

Originally Posted by tanaris

Not June 2010 but April 2010. And this year, the last update was on January 2011 (which is correct). Most of my website PRs decreased. Some from PR 3 became PR 1 and there are also sites that sunk down to 0. Odd right? But the strangest thing happen just this month. My PR 0 website suddenly got a PR 3 :confused:

Not June 2010 but April 2010

Check this page and tell me when is created and what PR do you see:

Timing is everything for sharks that smell in stereo : Nature News

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tanaris

13 years ago

I think the site has been penalized. The link you gave me has not been indexed. I also check the home page and Google hasn't cached it.

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Carl Brown

13 years ago

Originally Posted by tanaris

I think the site has been penalized. The link you gave me has not been indexed. I also check the home page and Google hasn't cached it.

It says PR7 for me

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Steven Heron 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Carl Brown

It says PR7 for me

Oh my god.... spam it! Here we go...
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tanaris

13 years ago

Yes, the page is PR 7 but Google doesn't index the page/website anymore. The last cache date is unknown lol! Spamming on that site is useless.

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karismasand

13 years ago

Originally Posted by tanaris

Yes, the page is PR 7 but Google doesn't index the page/website anymore. The last cache date is unknown lol! Spamming on that site is useless.

Oh my god.... spam it! Here we go...

Before you say SPAM you should have checked the source html page

This site don't want to archive the page
<meta name="robots" content="noarchive" />Read more here Are there any benefits to <meta name="robots" content="noarchive">? - Webmaster Central Help

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Steven Heron

13 years ago

Originally Posted by karismasand

Before you say SPAM you should have checked the source html page

This site don't want to archive the page
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Hmm hmm hmmm.... Yes. That's correct. About the PR, it's always a good thing. Who here likes candy?

I'll be walking away now....

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Mike Anthony 13 years ago

Originally Posted by tanaris

Yes, the page is PR 7 but Google doesn't index the page/website anymore. The last cache date is unknown lol! Spamming on that site is useless.

and um you don't know how to get Google to crawl it again?
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AllanVans

13 years ago

Originally Posted by karismasand

Indeed, Google has made a rank update in January 2011 but only until 10 June 2010.

Google changed the algorithm and are updated with a delay of one year. For example, if a site on the net today barely climb over a year will see the Page Rank on it, no matter how many updates will Google do in this period.

This measure was taken primarily to "kill" those who sell and buy links and secondly to have available a year to develop a quality site without knowing where you are if you understand what I mean.

You are a 110% right you really did your research keep it up....

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johnsander1 13 years ago

agreed with your statement
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Ernie Lo

13 years ago

Who knows and you really shouldnt care too much about PR. I understand its nice to get an indicator that your site has improved in Googles eyes but meh money talks.

The only thing you should ask yourself is if your profits have increased since 1 year ago?

Your site could show a PR 10 in the next update, but if you're not making money, it really doesnt matter.

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Steven Heron

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Ernie Lonardo

Who knows and you really shouldnt care too much about PR. I understand its nice to get an indicator that your site has improved in Googles eyes but meh money talks.

The only thing you should ask yourself is if your profits have increased since 1 year ago?

Your site could show a PR 10 in the next update, but if you're not making money, it really doesnt matter.

I'd give up my entire business for a PR10 site.

You see, it is true that PR doesn't matter, because PR does not equal keyword authority. However, once pages on your website have PR, you can create anchored links to other pages on your website and create the authority internally, even if it didn't exist externally.

For this reason, a PR10 would index you under any keyword term imaginable, from buy viagra to life insurance, to credit cards, simply by creating sub-pages on the domain and linking out to them from the PR10 page. For that reason, I'd give up anything for a completely unauthoritative, non-targeted, PR10 domain.

To put it succinctly, the whole "PR does not matter" movement is taken a little bit too far. It does matter still. A lot.

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LaunchBrain.com

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Ernie Lonardo

Who knows and you really shouldnt care too much about PR. I understand its nice to get an indicator that your site has improved in Googles eyes but meh money talks.

The only thing you should ask yourself is if your profits have increased since 1 year ago?

Your site could show a PR 10 in the next update, but if you're not making money, it really doesnt matter.

I second that

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InitialEffort

13 years ago

You might want to double check that

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salmanbaig

13 years ago

PR is of no value ... Don't care much about it !!

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karismasand 13 years ago

Originally Posted by salmanbaig

PR is of no value ... Don't care much about it !!

Believe me guys, PageRank value will increasingly higher ...
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ToWigs 13 years ago

Originally Posted by salmanbaig

PR is of no value ... Don't care much about it !!

Only noobs say PR carries no value. Don't be noob.
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guitarjosh

13 years ago

P.R.

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karismasand 13 years ago

Originally Posted by guitarjosh

P.R.

And this ... is a way to express your disapproval, just live in a free world ... or not?
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rafayqureshi

13 years ago

i created my website a month ago and it still shows PR N/A ???!!!

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Clayton Rice 13 years ago

Originally Posted by rafayqureshi

i created my website a month ago and it still shows PR N/A ???!!!

You shouldn't be concerned. That's normal. Add quality content to your website and start working on backlinks and you will slowly climb up the PR ladder. But like others have said, it's not as important as traffic.
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businesswarrior121

13 years ago

it become hard to get page rank from google this days.

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terryd

13 years ago

Page rank is just a waste of time.... when I was young and foolish I too thought that PR was important until I noticed all my PR0 sites were bringing in money....now that I'm older and wiser I notice my sites are all still PR0 and are still bringing in money....

I think your obsession with PR is like your first statement "TODAY - 1 year since Google did not update Page Rank"......totally wrong

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webhostingrvw

13 years ago

@ karismasand

Pagerank is a minor factor. Check it, 2011 Search Engine Ranking Factors | SEOmoz for latest ranking factors

you should focus on content and getting backlinks.

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karismasand

13 years ago

Originally Posted by webhostingrvw

@ karismasand

Pagerank is a minor factor. Check it, 2011 Search Engine Ranking Factors | SEOmoz for latest ranking factors

you should focus on content and getting backlinks.

getting backlinks.

@webhostingrvw

And if you get backlink this don't they bring you pagerank?

What happens to your logical thinking?

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seoforu

13 years ago

The big debate on pagerank is still on.Pagerank has been updated and many sites have experienced changes.I would suggest you to think what have u done to promote your website??Are they any reasons that the Big G should have increased your PR?

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rauff

13 years ago

google is taking much time for updating PR

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thefundu

13 years ago

PR is just the symbol that represents the quality of backlinks attached to your site. So, PR actually matters when someone is looking for some business with your site. If you have a blog and someone wants a post on it then the price will be fairly identified with the PR and Alexa. SO, PR matters.

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rspadi

13 years ago

PR was really important a few years ago, but nowadays it doesn't really mean a lot anymore. You could have a high PR, but if your site isn't optimized very well and if you don't have any good backlinks, your pages won't rank, you won't get much traffic and you won't make much money.

On the other hand, it's true - high PR has some good perceived value. It's easier to sell a PR6 site than a PR2 - sometimes even if the PR2 site would make more money.

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Mike Anthony

13 years ago

Originally Posted by rspadi

PR was really important a few years ago, but nowadays it doesn't really mean a lot anymore. You could have a high PR, but if your site isn't optimized very well and if you don't have any good backlinks, your pages won't rank, you won't get much traffic and you won't make much money.

Two different issues entirely. Okay guys lets get some things straight

Beck's page is no a PR 0. Google pagerank is updated EVERY DAY internally. Glen's site is about Pr5 or P6 (yes there are inexact ways of calculating REAL PR). The public toolbar updates are not important but the PR that Google sees internally is.

As for when last the pages were updated externally many people saw changes in late April. Lastly please throw away and bury the total nonsense that PR is of no value for SEO. Thats TOTALLY ridiculous. Pagerank is a great indicator of the strength of links coming in to a page. Now of course if you are not targeting those links with proper anchor text then you will not see the serp rise BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT TARGETING THOSE KEYWORDS.

with the same anchor text and on page factors If you line up 30 PR 2,3,4 links against 40 PR N/A links it is like a Human being stepping on an ant. The high PR links if followed will smoke even 100 ordinary real PR N/A pages. No contest. So PR DOES matter. It matters in linkbuilding ad having a high PR page yourself is an indication that your are getting good links.

As for those that say just build great content and it will come may I ask if you write the great american novel and then leave it in your open car will the publishers open your door grab it out of your car and publish it?

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tanaris

13 years ago

@karismasand - I can feel the flame

Next time you should get your information straight before posting false assumption about the Google PR update.

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karismasand 13 years ago

Originally Posted by tanaris

@karismasand - I can feel the flame Next time you should get your information straight before posting false assumption about the Google PR update.

What is false assumption?
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markowe

13 years ago

Pagerank is also kind of handy for assessing the authority of the sites on page one you plan to go up against, but even there it DEFINITELY should not be taken as more than a fairly minor factor. Once again, it's worth repeating, PR has NOTHING to do with a page's ranking for a particular keyword, it is about the rating passed on from other pages. My offline company site has a PR4 homepage but sucks as regards its targetted keywords because I had been lazy about SEO (that's going to change!). So the PR0 on page one can safely say "we outrank a PR4", but it's meaningless.

Just thought that was worth mentioning again.

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gtk29

13 years ago

I think google does not care too much about the page rank.

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shuvo

13 years ago

Indeed, Google has made a rank update in January 2011 but only until 10 June 2010.

Well as far I know the major page rank update was in April 1,2010 and next in January 2011 and update on June,2010 was minor update that Google do every month.However having page rank is worth to have but not that much since your focus is ranking for keywords.

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Vlad Romanov

13 years ago

this really sucks, i was so anxious to see any kind of page rank on my website..

hope they still use it in the future, but that is very unlikely.

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Carl Brown 13 years ago

Google's own browser (chrome) offers a pagerank plugin for their browser (called pagerank status), so they must still be using it. None of my sites have moved up or down in the last year.
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kiddoman

13 years ago

Yeah, that is right! Google updates the PR in Jan 2011!

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seodeveloper07

13 years ago

you better try to post good data in your website.

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karismasand 13 years ago

Originally Posted by seodeveloper07

you better try to post good data in your website.

Are you talk to me?
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dagaul101

13 years ago

Google has always stated not to worry about PR, but to keep building unique content, and getting backlinks and the PR will follow

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AnneE 13 years ago

Thanks for posting this thread. I was trying to understand why a website that I created a year ago, which I've regularly update and has lots of unique content, is still at Page Rank 0 or N/A.

To everyone who says, "Why worry about Page Rank?" Because guest blogging is a great way of increasing both your site's SEO and visitors. I currently participate in a guest blogging group and there is no quick way to distinguish between a site like mine and a site someone threw together a month ago.

I've had several people who are looking for blogs to guest blog on, or people just offering me business advice, who say, "Gosh, Anne, you really need to do some SEO. Your site doesn't rank with Google at all!" And how have they determined this? Because they looked at the site's Page Rank.

So that is why Page Rank DOES matter and why I too am frustrated with a lack of Page Rank updates.
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admin@subashseo.com

13 years ago

No matter about the Page rank, Google update page rank one's site every three months, Sites popularity is become through the traffic. my point is to promote your site for traffic and not for rank. that is my point of view any comments will be welcome.

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