Panda update 2.2 - autoblogs still any good?

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I've read recently this :

Coming Soon: Google Panda Update 2.2

I was wondering how hard have your auto blogs been hit so far? Any remedies?
#autoblogs #good #panda #update
  • Profile picture of the author gearmonkey
    I hope Panda destroys autoblogs even though I run three. My crappy Amazon scraper wordpress blog has increased 1200% in traffic since last Tuesday.

    While my "real" blog with high-quality and unique content that is resourced on eHow, Wiki, Yahoo Answers, and even in published magazines continues to dive at an alarming rate.

    Whatever Google is doing, they are doing it wrong....
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    • Profile picture of the author Zeb
      Originally Posted by gearmonkey View Post

      I hope Panda destroys autoblogs even though I run three. My crappy Amazon scraper wordpress blog has increased 1200% in traffic since last Tuesday.

      While my "real" blog with high-quality and unique content that is resourced on eHow, Wiki, Yahoo Answers, and even in published magazines continues to dive at an alarming rate.

      Whatever Google is doing, they are doing it wrong....
      Originally Posted by gearmonkey View Post

      The content on my high-quality blog is being stolen by hundreds of scraper sites... I have been reporting these scraper sites to Google in hopes they take notice.

      I think what high-quality webmaster need to do is band together to find thieves and report them.

      REPORT SPAM SITE TO GOOGLE
      So did you report yourself to google as well
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      • Profile picture of the author gearmonkey
        Originally Posted by Zeb View Post

        So did you report yourself to google as well
        One of my autoblogs (the crappy one) regurgitate Amazon's regurgitated content, and traffic increased 1200% the past week.

        My other autoblogs only syndicates by request only, blog owners must send me a request to be syndicated. And I don't just accept anyone, only good blogs and I give a backlink to their page.

        Bloggers request to be on my autoblog, I don't steal content (except from Amazon's regurgitated manufacture written content)
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  • Profile picture of the author MonopolyMan
    A similar post: Report: Google Panda update 2.2 coming soon | The Digital Home - CNET News

    I'm having a very similar experience to gearmonkey. My scraped content sites have shot up rankings and traffic this week while almost every single one of my good quality sites have been dumped past page 100.
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  • Profile picture of the author gearmonkey
    The content on my high-quality blog is being stolen by hundreds of scraper sites... I have been reporting these scraper sites to Google in hopes they take notice.

    I think what high-quality webmaster need to do is band together to find thieves and report them.

    REPORT SPAM SITE TO GOOGLE
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  • Profile picture of the author addyj672
    Really its seems to be case with all the content management sites like ezine, about and other. Basically they have good and non duplicate contents but still they were hit by google panda very hard. Due to this it is difficult to say which is quality content and which is not????
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  • Profile picture of the author WealthWithin
    There's no effect on auto-blogs after panda. (they seem to be doing better than ever).

    But there against Google's quality guidelines, against AdSense TOS and most importantly, unethical.
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by WealthWithin View Post

      But there against Google's quality guidelines, against AdSense TOS and most importantly, unethical.
      oh brother :rolleyes:
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      • Profile picture of the author Rsberg
        Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

        oh brother :rolleyes:
        Quoted for truth...amazing isn't it.
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  • Profile picture of the author cheesee
    As stated above, auto-blogs seem to be doing better since the panda update. Only time will tell if it remains that way.
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  • Profile picture of the author EthanCrawford
    Autoblogs do work, and will probably continue to work as long as you continue to adjust how you do it. Google, for example, realized that one common characteristic of autoblogs is that they have zillions of posts but almost no comments. This is now a red flag, and it's advisable to use a plugin that auto-posts comments as well.

    It's important to bare in mind that, like anything, autoblogs are good in some situations and not for others. For instance, running an autoblog with AdSense is pretty dumb, as Google does take quick action to penalize in this scenario.
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    • Profile picture of the author LandoFormosa
      If Google loves autoblogs more than ever, isn't that there is a huge flaw in the way they figure out quality from crap?
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by LandoFormosa View Post

        If Google loves autoblogs more than ever, isn't that there is a huge flaw in the way they figure out quality from crap?
        Not necessarily because not all autoblogs are crap. Assuming all autoblogs are poor quality is a bad assumption that many folks make.
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        • Profile picture of the author LandoFormosa
          Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

          Not necessarily because not all autoblogs are crap. Assuming all autoblogs are poor quality is a bad assumption that many folks make.

          Hmmmm, you make my mind spinning. So, what would make a good quality autoblog?
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          • Profile picture of the author Rsberg
            Originally Posted by LandoFormosa View Post

            Hmmmm, you make my mind spinning. So, what would make a good quality autoblog?
            Building a quality autoblog requires a little work. Many people have this misconception that it's easy and it's not.

            Find quality content from multiple sources, add in your own content expressing your individual thoughts or use it to bring content from other sources together. Pay attention to the quality of the scraped content to make sure its well written, on topic and potrays the subject in the direction you want. Automating a blog can be done with many tools but you still need to make sure you are building quality sites that readers acually want to read. Offering valuable information along with related offers such as CPA, affiliate offers, physical product (Amazon)...etc etc.

            Most people buy a few plugins and slap them on a blog and expect to walk away...that simply doesn't cut it anymore and never should have to begin with to be honest.
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            • Profile picture of the author LandoFormosa
              Originally Posted by Rsberg View Post

              Building a quality autoblog requires a little work. Many people have this misconception that it's easy and it's not.

              Find quality content from multiple sources, add in your own content expressing your individual thoughts or use it to bring content from other sources together. Pay attention to the quality of the scraped content to make sure its well written, on topic and potrays the subject in the direction you want. Automating a blog can be done with many tools but you still need to make sure you are building quality sites that readers acually want to read. Offering valuable information along with related offers such as CPA, affiliate offers, physical product (Amazon)...etc etc.

              Most people buy a few plugins and slap them on a blog and expect to walk away...that simply doesn't cut it anymore and never should have to begin with to be honest.
              Thanks Rsberg,

              That's very much what I was thinking too Yet, I am wondering how many people realize that with some work on improving the quality of the autoblog they can walk not the extra mile but thousands of extra miles getting far better results from their efforts...
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              • Profile picture of the author Rsberg
                Originally Posted by LandoFormosa View Post

                I am wondering how many people realize that with some work on improving the quality of the autoblog they can walk not the extra mile but thousands of extra miles getting far better results from their efforts...
                Many of us have already realized that, I honestly believe that the autobloggers that survive long term are doing just that.
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                • Profile picture of the author LandoFormosa
                  Originally Posted by Rsberg View Post

                  Many of us have already realized that, I honestly believe that the autobloggers that survive long term are doing just that.
                  Then there is only one thing left - create autoblogs with your own original content?
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                  • Profile picture of the author Rsberg
                    Originally Posted by LandoFormosa View Post

                    Then there is only one thing left - create autoblogs with your own original content?


                    That is one approach and would probably work pretty well as long as the content on your blogs provided value to the reader.

                    Another approach would be to use automation tools to help you build blogs with a mix of scraped content and unique content.

                    Let’s say you build a blog about taking better care of your pets.

                    On Jan 1 you make a post with the following:

                    1 scraped article from a directory that allows this (Ezine for example) about how to better feed your pet to help take care of its coat in the winter. Of course you want to be sure to leave the appropriate links in the article to the original source/author.

                    RSS feed with related content

                    1 or 2 pictures from Flickr with a brief description below or beside them

                    1 Youtube video of someone discussing different pet foods and how they affect your pets’ coat.

                    1 Yahoo Answers question from someone wanting to know which popular brand of food is best for their pet and why with an answer from someone who gives a good answer that the poster likes.

                    1 Unique article written by you giving your thoughts and opinions about the other content and maybe your own advice as well.

                    Now you sprinkle in some related offers:
                    1 – CB Ebook about taking better care of your pet
                    1 – Affiliate offer from a network. You would be surprised what you find when you look deeper at the networks. Maybe you find an offer from a chain pet store that fits just right.
                    1 – Amazon product that relates with a good picture and a brief description (unique is better but scraped is OK too) with your affiliate link to the product page.

                    On Jan 2 you make another post:

                    This post is about how to properly groom your pet for the summer heat.

                    1 Unique article written by you giving your thoughts and opinions about the other content and maybe your own advice as well.

                    1 Yahoo Answers question from someone wanting to know what the best pet clippers are and why and an answer from someone who gives a good answer that the poster likes.

                    More pictures from Flickr with brief descriptions

                    1 Youtube video of someone showing how to groom different breeds of dogs.

                    Related RSS feed content

                    1 scraped article from a directory that allows this (Ezine for example) about how to better take care of your pets coat and help it stay cool in the summer.

                    Add related offers:
                    1 – CB Ebook about taking better care of your pet
                    1 – Another affiliate offer from a network.
                    1 – Top 3 pet clippers from Amazon along with the good description, picture and affiliate link…add in some of the customer comments and ratings of the products too.

                    The idea here is to get quality content from different sources, mix up the order of that content and add in your own unique content too. You can build quality blogs with scraped content that add value to the net with automation and set it up to drip feed your posts over time. These types of posts can be created fairly easily and quickly once you get the hang of it…you would be surprised. It's quite possible to build posts to schedule out for a month or more with just a couple hours worth of work. Now you've taken care of a month’s posts on one blog in a couple hours (maybe less) which leaves you time for other projects, IM approaches and so on...
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                    • Profile picture of the author oliverwinston
                      I've noticed a 20% increase in one of my autoblogs and a small percentage increase in another.

                      I'm getting most of the traffic increase from new long tail keywords I'm ranking higher for.

                      There is a great plugin for wp blogs that is free and lists the incoming search terms for the posts and my traffic increased about the same time I started using it. I also did a backlink blast of 5,000 about three months ago for the site that is up 20%.
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  • Profile picture of the author MrDay
    Some people I know are still doing really well with their auto-blogs, while others have never had any success at all with them.

    The Panda update doesn't seem to be affecting them to much at the moment. They've always been had their ups or downs in the search engines.
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  • Profile picture of the author abuhakim
    I am constantly amazed at the controversy caused by the subject of autoblogging! If you are a blogging purist who creates blogs based on your experience, expertise or just for the love of blogging, then setting up automated blogs probably is not for you.

    On the other hand, if you are an online marketer using blogs as a means for generating traffic, creating product review sites, making sales, etc., and you market in various niches; it is almost impossible to create original/unique content in every niche. You'd spend all your time researching and writing articles (or a fortune outsourcing).

    Autoblogs are a means to an end that provide a method of populating a blog(s) with "relevant" content.

    I could do the same thing manually by pulling articles from any of the popular article directories one at a time (as long an attribution to the original author). Or, I could manually comb the Internet for relevant RSS feeds and install a script to post them on my blog. Again, that's just too time consuming.

    (As an aside, two the the biggest autoblogs in the world are Google News and Technorati. Google does not create any "news" articles and the information you find on Technorati and similar high PR sites is basically "scraped"!)

    Automation provides for scale and leverage. I agree with RSBerg that successful autoblogs take time and effort to develop. Gone are the days of SPLOGS.

    Accept the fact that as long as there in an opportunity to make money online, clever people will find ways to manipulate the search engines (even if only temporarily). Like most things, you have to be flexible and innovative as well as monitor changing trends, i.e. Panda.

    I have well over 100 autoblogs. A few were adversely impacted by Panda, but the vast majority were unaffected.

    I attribute this to the fact that I never subscribed to the notion that simply installing automated blog content software and pressing a button would make me rich!

    Each autoblog I create has a combination of original/unique content, content from RSS feeds, and articles from directories. In addition I add Youtube video, images from Flickr, etc. Some work better than others.

    Also, I learned to master on site & off site SEO which is a must in order to succeed.

    The impetus behind Farmer/Panda is to provide the end user with the best content available based on their search query.

    That can easily be achieved with autoblogs. You just have to get beyond the point of thinking that the "auto" means you don't have to work at it.

    Finally regarding "Duplicate Content" or "Little or no original content" I suggest anyone interested in Autoblogging or even current autobloggers read Google's official position regarding "duplicate content and "lite" content sites. It is not as ominous as you think!

    Duplicate Content

    Little or no original content

    Learn the rules of the game if you want to play...

    "Don't hate the player; hate the game". (Ice T.)
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  • Profile picture of the author Rukshan
    I run one auto blog. In last few months traffic has been dropped 50%. But Income is around $1 to 8 per day with adsense.
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