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Trying to outrank 26,000,000 websites...!!

by rafiseo Banned
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Im trying to outrank 26,000,000 websites(for first keyword)! I am submitting my complete plan. I just need to know what expert warriors think about my plan? All kind of advices, recommendations, error notices will be accepted cordially. I will post my website's status each month. So that it is going to be a group experiment with warriorforum members.

I hope next few months(time that will be needed to outrank one of the top 3 websites) you will be with me and will follow a SEO project that will be done by me.

As I am working for my client I will never tell u the website what I am working for but I am giving u the keywords.

website is: www.sanangelolive.com
> San Angelo
> San Angelo Texas
> San Angelo, Tx
> Midnight Rodeo

Note: For each keywords I will apply same methods each time.

Here is my plan...

A) On-page optimization:

1) Already keyword is used in domain name
2) Keywords will be used in title tags. As there is 4 keywords I will use "|" to separate all keywords
3) Keywords will be used in <h1> and <h2> tags
4) 3% keyword density in body
5) keywords will be decorated by <b> <i> and <u> tags
6) keywords will be placed in meta tags
7) keyword will be used in meta description
8) keywords will be used in bottom of the website as links.
9) keywords will be placed in image <alt> tags.

*??* is there any on-page optimization technique left?


B) Off-page optimization:

# Top Level Backlinks

1) I will create 100 social bookmarking/networking accounts using keywords as username. If I cant use keyword as username then I will try - (San-angelo), _ (san_angelo), . (san.angelo) and numbers (SanAngelo2011) after the keyword.

Then I will crate profiles and place my website URL in website field of profiles. If possible I will use anchor texts to get backlinks in bio field or in status message, blog, etc.

I will collect all Public URLs. And will create RSS Feed URLs using feedage.com

Then I will regularly post updates about my website using onlywire, ping.fm, pixelpipe, posterous, hellotxt, hootsuit etc. in status message, microblogs, blogs etc.

Also I will use tubemogul.com to regularly post videos on some video sites like youtube, blip.tv, vimeo, metacafe etc.

Finally I will regularly ping all Public URLs and RSS Feeds using pingfarm after posting updates on each social networking/bookmarking websites.


2) I will write 10 different articles and blogs. Keyword density will be 3%, All keywords will be bold, italicized and underlined. Then I will submit these articles on 10 different article and blog sites like

->ezinearticle
->articlebase
->searchwarp
->goarticles
->wordpress
->blogger etc.

All articles will directly point to my website.

Ping will be done like step 1.

3) Then I will write a press release and submit it in 25 different press release sites. (here I am lil bit confused and need help from warriors. Should I write just one press release and submit it in 25 different press release site or I should write 25 different press releases?)

4) I will write a wiki entry. An outbound link will be placed on this entry which will be a great inbound link for my website.

5) I will post comments in 25 very popular newspapers like wall stree journal with anchor text

6) I will find 25 relevant forums. I will signature field to create backlinks with anchor text "san angelo".

I will post total 5 relevant as well as valuable posts/comments on each forum over next 3 weeks. So that backlinks will not be deleted soon.

7) I will hire a worker in fiverr.com to create 50 .edu and .gov backlinks to my website using anchor text.

All backlinks will be pinged using pingfarm.com

Total 100+10+25+1+25+25+50=236 top level backlinks


# Mid level backlinks

1) After building all top level backlinks I will hire some linkbuilders in oDesk.com to create backlinks for my top level backlinks.

These mid level backlinks will be from high PR forums+blogs+social bookmarking/networking+Angela Paul backlinks etc. that are not relevant to my website.

Each top level backlinks will get 2 mid level backlinks

All backlinks will be pinged using pingfarm.com

So Total 236*2=472 mid level backlinks


# Low level backlinks

1) These low level backlinks will be forums, blogs, social bookmarking/networking sites again. I will not concentrate on PR of these backlinks.

Each mid level backlinks will get 3 different backlinks.

So Total 472*3=1416 backlinks low level backlinks.


So grand total is 236+472+1416=2124 Backlinks

Note: I will build backlinks slowly and regularly. I will slowly increase link growth pace. No Automated service like SENuke X will be used. Organic link building will be my one of the methods.

Now do u think this plan is Good enough for outranking 26,000,000 websites? If not then tell me what more should I do? Or which part of these plan is wrong? Or what u think should I do more?

Thanks
Rafi.
#outrank #websites
  • Profile picture of the author adrenalinfeed
    Have no idea weather this will be enough, but will for sure stay tuned to see how it goes. Please update us!
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    • Profile picture of the author rafiseo
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      Originally Posted by adrenalinfeed View Post

      Have no idea weather this will be enough, but will for sure stay tuned to see how it goes. Please update us!

      Sure I will. Stay with me.
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  • Profile picture of the author jerytohn
    Frankly, it doesn't matter how many competing websites there are .... because they are not really competing with you ....
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    • Profile picture of the author ARVolund
      Originally Posted by jerytohn View Post

      Frankly, it doesn't matter how many competing websites there are .... because they are not really competing with you ....

      This........

      All those numbers of competing websites, all intitle etc mean absolutely nothing.

      First off Google only shows 1k results so that is the most you are ever going to have to compete against.

      Second 98% of searchers never leave the first page. So if you want to make any money that is where you need to be. This lowers the actual competition you need to worry about to 10 sites.........If you can beat them you are good to go, if not then not so much.

      Back to your plan..

      Sounds good on the face of it. Kinds of hard to tell without knowing much about the site you are working with. The middle two look like they are going to be the hardest nuts to crack with the last one being the easiest and then the top one.
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      • Profile picture of the author rafiseo
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        Originally Posted by ARVolund View Post

        This........

        All those numbers of competing websites, all intitle etc mean absolutely nothing.

        First off Google only shows 1k results so that is the most you are ever going to have to compete against.

        Second 98% of searchers never leave the first page. So if you want to make any money that is where you need to be. This lowers the actual competition you need to worry about to 10 sites.........If you can beat them you are good to go, if not then not so much.

        Back to your plan..

        Sounds good on the face of it. Kinds of hard to tell without knowing much about the site you are working with. The middle two look like they are going to be the hardest nuts to crack with the last one being the easiest and then the top one.
        I am not clear what u mean by this last sentence! "Middle two"? U mean mid level backlinks?

        For Mid level and low level backlinks I will hire some link builders on oDesk.com.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Just a couple of things.

      First, the 26,000,000 "competing websites" is complete BS. Putting your keyword into Google and seeing how many sites come up does not tell you a thing worth acting on. I hate when people use this as some kind of metric. It blows.

      All that matters is the top 10. Nothing else. The other 25,999,990 sites are completely irrelevant.

      Second, it seems like you are going to be sending your client a lot of non-targeted traffic to their website. I'm not sure what your client does, but judging by what I got when Googling the last keyword, they are a bar franchise. So ranking for just the town that they are in seems a little bit of a waste of time. It could be productive, but why not target things like...

      bars in San Angelo
      San Angelo bars
      clubs in San Angelo
      San Angelo clubs
      San Angelo nightlife
      San Angelo restaurants
      San Angelo pubs

      I have done zero research on any of these keywords, so they might all be crap, but they are targeted keywords that will get people in the door for your client. Someone searching "San Angelo" could be searching for it for a thousand different reasons.

      I know a lot of SEO'ers go for these higher traffic keywords because they fall into the trap of thinking that this keyword gets 1000 searches a day, for example, so my client will see 400-500 visitors if I get them to #1. Normally, those numbers play out, but if you are not giving the searchers what they are looking for, you are not going to get as much traffic as you think. You'll have some curious people click on it to see what it is, but a lot of people are not going to be interested.

      If I am searching "San Angelo" because I am taking my family on vacation there this summer, I have zero interest in taking a 7 and 10 year-old into Midnight Rodeo.

      I hope that makes sense. Some might disagree.

      Lastly, I would save the $5 on the .edu backlinks. They are overrated. The only reason they had value in the past was because they were difficult to get. In my opinion, people felt these links were valuable for the wrong reasons though. It has nothing to do with them being a .edu. It had to do with them having very few outgoing backlinks.

      I would argue that a backlink from a .com site with a PR of 3 and only 9 outgoing backlinks is every bit as valuable as a backlink from a .edu site with a PR of 3 and 9 outgoing backlinks.

      These days it is easy to get .edu backlinks. I can pay $5 to some college kid to setup a blog on his university's network that I can get as many backlinks as I want from. Google knows this too.

      I'm sure many people will disagree with the .edu thing, but I have never found any proof of a site ranking better simply based on .edu backlinks.
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      • Profile picture of the author rafiseo
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        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        Just a couple of things.

        First, the 26,000,000 "competing websites" is complete BS. Putting your keyword into Google and seeing how many sites come up does not tell you a thing worth acting on. I hate when people use this as some kind of metric. It blows.

        All that matters is the top 10. Nothing else. The other 25,999,990 sites are completely irrelevant.

        Second, it seems like you are going to be sending your client a lot of non-targeted traffic to their website. I'm not sure what your client does, but judging by what I got when Googling the last keyword, they are a bar franchise. So ranking for just the town that they are in seems a little bit of a waste of time. It could be productive, but why not target things like...

        bars in San Angelo
        San Angelo bars
        clubs in San Angelo
        San Angelo clubs
        San Angelo nightlife
        San Angelo restaurants
        San Angelo pubs

        I have done zero research on any of these keywords, so they might all be crap, but they are targeted keywords that will get people in the door for your client. Someone searching "San Angelo" could be searching for it for a thousand different reasons.

        I know a lot of SEO'ers go for these higher traffic keywords because they fall into the trap of thinking that this keyword gets 1000 searches a day, for example, so my client will see 400-500 visitors if I get them to #1. Normally, those numbers play out, but if you are not giving the searchers what they are looking for, you are not going to get as much traffic as you think. You'll have some curious people click on it to see what it is, but a lot of people are not going to be interested.

        If I am searching "San Angelo" because I am taking my family on vacation there this summer, I have zero interest in taking a 7 and 10 year-old into Midnight Rodeo.

        I hope that makes sense. Some might disagree.

        Lastly, I would save the $5 on the .edu backlinks. They are overrated. The only reason they had value in the past was because they were difficult to get. In my opinion, people felt these links were valuable for the wrong reasons though. It has nothing to do with them being a .edu. It had to do with them having very few outgoing backlinks.

        I would argue that a backlink from a .com site with a PR of 3 and only 9 outgoing backlinks is every bit as valuable as a backlink from a .edu site with a PR of 3 and 9 outgoing backlinks.

        These days it is easy to get .edu backlinks. I can pay $5 to some college kid to setup a blog on his university's network that I can get as many backlinks as I want from. Google knows this too.

        I'm sure many people will disagree with the .edu thing, but I have never found any proof of a site ranking better simply based on .edu backlinks.

        In fact this is a online newspaper. U have noticed already that I have planed to get newspaper backlinks to it. I think as I am targeting traffic interrested about Live music, events and news from san angelo so the keywords are okay. I welcome ur suggestion and recommendation.

        And I know value of .edu and .gov backlinks that people talk about are just a myth! But still I am skeptical about my knowledge. This is why I have put it in my plan. Well what replacement do u think can be good for these .edu and .gov backlinks?
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    • Profile picture of the author rafiseo
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      Originally Posted by jerytohn View Post

      Frankly, it doesn't matter how many competing websites there are .... because they are not really competing with you ....

      Yeah u are quite right! In fact my website is on page 3 #24th position. So I think I have to compete with 23 websites.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
    Uh... Google ranks Pages - not websites. In fact, it can rank hundreds of pages from same website, but moving on.

    Since you follow ALL the best practices (H's, bold's, correct %, etc etc etc) one of these days you'll be penalized for OVER OPTIMIZATION.

    Just a friendly heads-up No one makes a perfect website - unless it's heavily optimized by someone on the know and Google hates that.

    Just think you should know.

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    • Profile picture of the author rafiseo
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      Originally Posted by Fernando Veloso View Post

      Uh... Google ranks Pages - not websites. In fact, it can rank hundreds of pages from same website, but moving on.

      Since you follow ALL the best practices (H's, bold's, correct %, etc etc etc) one of these days you'll be penalized for OVER OPTIMIZATION.

      Just a friendly heads-up No one makes a perfect website - unless it's heavily optimized by someone on the know and Google hates that.

      Just think you should know.


      Hmm. Then u think I am doing OVER OPTIMIZATION??
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    OP, how do you figure 26 million competition?

    I only see 10 positions (competition) on the page #1 default SERPs.
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  • Profile picture of the author Keep Trying
    I don't think 26,000,000 results really matters. I currently have a website ranked on the 1st page of Google, #3 result, and it's currently out of 868,000,000 results. It took me a month of SEO that looked a lot less overwhelming than your current plan. To me, the PR of the top 10 is a more accurate view of rank difficulty for keywords than how many total results there are for keywords. Maybe do a little bit more research on your top 10 competitors and then go from there.
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    Just remember to consistently build high quality, dofollow backlinks using your keywords as anchor text, and you will eventually achieve your goal! Best of luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sumon2k7
      Hey man,

      I think you have done enough research. But the keywords you are targeting are local keywords. So I would suggest you to optimize these keywords via Google Map/Place. This way you can give your clients business the maximum exposure and targeted traffic. To optimize Google Map the client need to claim his business first. then you need to add reviews, photos, videos and most importantly citations. I guess you have got enough idea from others about the competition. You need to care about top 10 sites ..no matter how difficult is the competition is ! however, do not count on number of links. Its the quality of links that matters not quantity. the way you've planned seem perfect to me!! Best of luck with the job.
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      • Profile picture of the author rafiseo
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        Originally Posted by Sumon2k7 View Post

        Hey man,

        I think you have done enough research. But the keywords you are targeting are local keywords. So I would suggest you to optimize these keywords via Google Map/Place. This way you can give your clients business the maximum exposure and targeted traffic. To optimize Google Map the client need to claim his business first. then you need to add reviews, photos, videos and most importantly citations. I guess you have got enough idea from others about the competition. You need to care about top 10 sites ..no matter how difficult is the competition is ! however, do not count on number of links. Its the quality of links that matters not quantity. the way you've planned seem perfect to me!! Best of luck with the job.
        Thanks Anis vai for giving another good idea about map. I will try it. However I know about relevancy is a big matter. I have ranked a website on first page of google for just 8 relevant profile backlinks! only 15 backlinks are working to show this page on first page. So I know relevant backlinks can do magic stuffs.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lucid
    Reading your original post, especially the keywords, I had the same thoughts as MikeFriedman. In short, you are targeting the wrong keywords. I can't add any more to what he said but I don't understand why no one else is mentioning it.

    Another thing too, if this is a newspaper site, each page will rank naturally according to the article's content. I just don't see how you'll rank any of them very high on a location keyword.
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  • Profile picture of the author contentment1st
    I would have to agree with Sumon2k7. If this is a retail establishment, you are going to get them more traffic these days from getting them positioned in the first seven listings of Google Places. I had a client tell me last week that he's been in business for 27 years and he's never been busier than he has in the last 6 weeks. The change? His four locations jumped into positions #1, #3, #2, and #1 in the four cities in which he operates in the Google Places Listings.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sigmachi
    Good luck rafiseo! I too am in a similar niche you are working on for your client. If you are success, I might come seek you
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