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What's more important: Title, Description and H1 tag OR backlinks

by lirikh
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Hey guys, I was wondering what's more important to rank top10: title, description and h1 tags OR backlinks?

I'm asking this because I found a keyword whose all top10 websites don't have any title, description and h1 tags. However, they have a tremendous amount of backlinks (some have few hunders, some in the thousands)

Will I be able to compete against them and get #1?

Thanks.

On a side note, offtopic, what do you think of this competition:



#2 is wikihow
#3 is youtube
#10 is youtube
#backlinks #description #important #tag #title
  • Profile picture of the author Jeff Lenney
    They're both Important. But you should be able to get Into the top ten easily. Just make sure you optimize properly and start building links too.
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    • Profile picture of the author packerfan
      Looks very easy without doing more research on the specific links.

      On your site, make sure your on page is optimal and focus on link building.

      It looks like none of these pages are optimized for the keyword you've found. I don't think you'll have any trouble at all.
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    • Profile picture of the author lirikh
      Originally Posted by eljeffe77 View Post

      They're both Important. But you should be able to get Into the top ten easily. Just make sure you optimize properly and start building links too.
      Yeah I know they're both important, but I just wanted an estimate guess whether let's say a website fully optimized for title, desc and h1 tags with few backlinks would beat a website non-optimized but with lots of backlink juice.

      btw: that keyword I found has 90k global searches per month. I think I found a winner
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      • Profile picture of the author packerfan
        Is that 90k Exact searches? If it is, then I'd say you found a winner. Just make sure it's exact searches.

        It will probably take more than a few links, but proper on-page is very important. If you can get some really high quality links, it may not take many.
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        • Profile picture of the author lirikh
          Originally Posted by packerfan View Post

          Is that 90k Exact searches? If it is, then I'd say you found a winner. Just make sure it's exact searches.

          It will probably take more than a few links, but proper on-page is very important. If you can get some really high quality links, it may not take many.
          Yes exact searches indeed.
          I got a good plan already laid out for extremely good on-page optimization, and great off-page optimization (manual high quality backlinks, .edu backlinks, social bookmarks, press releases and maybe a link pyramid)

          I'm really excited about this keyword.
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          • Profile picture of the author packerfan
            Originally Posted by lirikh View Post

            Yes exact searches indeed.
            I got a good plan already laid out for extremely good on-page optimization, and great off-page optimization (manual high quality backlinks, .edu backlinks, social bookmarks, press releases and maybe a link pyramid)

            I'm really excited about this keyword.
            Good luck with it! It's great to find a keyword like that.
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  • Profile picture of the author lirikh
    Originally Posted by SEO Agency View Post

    Both of them are important if you have the proper description and H1 tagging and of course solid link building campaign now I can say your campaign is very competitive.
    What do you mean very competitive? So you think it's going to be hard for me to rank for that keyword? If so, why do you say that?

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author dadamson
    It actually looks quite easy.

    If the title, h1, keywords, etc are NOT focused towards the keyword it doesn't mean they have poor SEO, it means they are probably optimizing for a totally different keyword, good news for you
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  • Profile picture of the author jushuaburnham
    Both of them are important...very basic.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Williamson
    The dichotomy is virtually irrelevant. As everyone has said, both are important, and it's not like you have to make a choice between the 2...
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  • Profile picture of the author lirikh
    One of my main concerns was which had the most ranking juice. I mean let's say there's a fully optimized website, but doesn't have many backlinks, for example, 100. On the other hand, the competitive website has alot of backlinks, 1000, but is completely not optimized for that keyword (no title, description and h1 tags). Who will get the #1 spot?
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  • Profile picture of the author vidhujain
    title, meta keywords, description and H1 Tag are the on page work and after that you have do the off page work which create the backlink for your website..
    so they both part are important we can't miss any single part..
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  • Profile picture of the author seosemguy
    Yeah this is absolutely right both are important.
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    all are important..
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  • Profile picture of the author lirikh
    Everyone knows both of them are important, but let me give you this scenario:

    Who would win?:
    1. Fully-optimized website with 300 backlinks
    2. Non-optimized website with 3000 backlinks
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  • Profile picture of the author Sam Dhawan
    Yes title, description and h1 tags comes into On site seo and this is most important to get ranked in SERP. make sure to use your main ranking keywords in your Tittle + description and H1 tags
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  • Profile picture of the author C Rebecca
    See, a blend of will give you the best results. But if we talk about them individually,
    Quality baclinks helps in improving search engine visibility and reputation of your website, as every bcklink from an authority website will be counted as vote or your website.

    Title is important, because it helps in establishing the keyword relevancy with your webpage.

    Description is also very important because it describes your page to the search engine as well as to the users.

    H1 tags are less important (just my own opinion) from SEO standpoint. But if you don't use header tags, your page is poorly formatted and does not deliver a good user experience.

    All in all, all the things are important for good on page optimization.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr Lim
    Well, it's simple.

    On-Page SEO is Limited.
    Off-Page SEO is Unlimited.

    Try Google "Click Here", what will you get.
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  • Profile picture of the author JamesGw
    To rank for a particular keyword, I'd say title and then on-page content are probably the most important. To beat out your competition once you rank for that keyword, you'll need backlinks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Josh MacDonald
    If an authority site like WikiHow or Wikipedia have the exact keyword in their title, keyword or description, then it will be near impossible, regardless of the backlinks. The smaller sites will survive on their amount of backlinks. YouTube videos arn't hard to outrank since their videos are not considered too authority since anyone can upload videos. It's really hard to explain. So since WikiHow doesn't have the onsite SEO done for that keyword, you should be fine, go for it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Simon74
    all the elements are important onsite seo (title, meta keywords, description and H1,H2,H3 Tag etc) and offsite seo (backlinks). Regarding the backlinks, build high page rank links and you will be on your way to google page 1.

    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author killer1211
    From my previous experience i see when ever i change meta title of the website there will be huge change in rankings for the keywords i place in meta title.

    Also i see improvement in rankings when i submit to directories and to blogs.

    I don't see any change in rankings when i change Description and H1 tag.
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  • Profile picture of the author timr
    I use both, like Game333 said, online is limited, offline there is no limit.
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  • Profile picture of the author strategic seo services
    Backlinks are more important than on page optimization factors. To test this, just type the words: "Click here" into Google. Look what comes up at #1: a site that doesn't even have the words Click Here anywhere on the page!
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  • Profile picture of the author Ken Durham
    I guess if you can get over 3,350,000 backlinks from sites all over the world, some of whom are extremely authoritative sites, then yes, backlinks are top.

    If you talk about something a little less than a world renown site that has "click here" related to it over 3 million times, then on-site SEO may be easier than shooting for 3 million backlinks. And to be honest, has anyone ever tried to SEO their site to the top for "click here" by using the phrase as their main on site keywords? Besides Clickhere . com (who seem to have done quite well with only 2K backlinks, most of which are not using the text "click here" as anchor text, and most of which come from a single blog)

    I would take the 300 backlinks with the SEO optimized page in the scenario presented.
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