Thoughts on the 'sandbox'

by timpears

Posted: 13 years ago 6 replies

I have never really bought into the sandbox theory. Not sure why, just never bought the argument. But a friend of mine swears that it happens to sites.

I have a site in the mortgage niche, and I have thrown thousands of links at it and as best as I can tell, still don't even show up in the top 100 pages of Google. I can only search the top 50 with Traffic Travis free version and it doesn't show me anywhere. Even with all these links and article marketing.

So my question is, are the pages I have the links pointing to been sand boxed, or the site itself. I am having some more articles written and I wonder if it is worth publishing them to this same site, which MAY be sand boxed? or should I register a new domain and start over? I only have a few articles on this site currently. But I am wondering if I can get the new articles listed or if they will be sand boxed because they are on the same site?

I still don't know if I believe the sand box theory as it just doesn't make sense to me. But then a lot of things about Google don't make sens to me either, so who knows?

#andbox #thoughts

Hogan Chua 13 years ago

Hey timpears,

Your sites are not sand boxed, there is no such thing.

Simply because if that were the case then competitors would be buying bad links or whatever for your site to get them sand boxed.

Anything a competitor could do to harm your website will NEVER be penalize by Google.

However, things like Hidden Text, Alt Image spamming, Meta tag stuffing, Title tag stuffing could get your website banned. So, if your not doing that then you probably just need to keep building back links everyday.

Hogan
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Murt@gh 13 years ago

The sandbox doesn't exist.

Fire some more high quality links at it, make sure the on-page SEO is done and that varied anchor text can be used on your backlinks wherever possible.
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timpears 13 years ago

I agree the sand box is a fiction, but who knows with Google.

If you are right, then it is taking a hell of a lot of back links to even get into the top 100 pages. I know this is a competitive niche, but geez. My on page is lacking I am sure, but I am going to concentrate more on that with these new articles. I installed Clickbumps plugin to help me.
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Mike Grant 13 years ago

Serious lols @ those saying the sandbox doesn't exist.
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- packerfan 13 years ago
  
  Sometimes I wish I didn't provide BMR posts, because it seems like I'm pimping their service just because I sell posts...
  
  Anyway, I have great luck staying out of the sandbox (real or fake) by using build my rank. I have sites that have 100% links from BMR and they've never been sandboxed.
  
  Make sure you get some good links one way or another and keep building links. Eventually you'll come out of the "box".
  
  Also, make sure your on-page is spot on. Give yourself every chance to be successful.
  
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- RevSEO 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Mike Grant
  
  Serious lols @ those saying the sandbox doesn't exist.
  
  Seriously
  
  Sandbox does exist. You'll just need to continue building links to your site. Don't forget that there are internal pages on your website as well! Far too often newbies simply build links to the homepage for one or two keywords and NEVER build any links to internal links/posts. How natural is that?
  
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