What is your strategy to determine if the KW is very hard to rank for ?

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Hi
I'm Kind of newbie, hope everyone can share your experience in KW research

If you found a keyword (whatever the no of monthly searches ), what is your strategy to say this kw is very hard to rank or it's ok and i'll go for this kw ?t
and what is your tools in this process ?

and what is your maximum level of competition you will never exceed which you think if you put more hard work for it you can rank ?

Thank in advance
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  • Profile picture of the author amirhf
    I suggest you take a look at Page Ranks of the top 10 results. If you can not find a few pages with Page Rank less than 3, then the keywords is probably too hard to rank. On the other hand if you find some pages with PR 0 then it usually takes less time and effort to rank for that keyword. Make sure you have SeoQuake and Google Global plugins installed.
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    • Profile picture of the author RonnyRaygun
      I look at the top 10 results on google and I ask myself: How much will it cost me to beat them?

      I do a fair amount of sniper site building, and a base site costs me $35 to completely outsource. The remaining money spent is building links. So I look at the type of links that my competitors have and take my current link indexing rate and determine how many backlinks I need to set up.
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    • Profile picture of the author ARVolund
      Originally Posted by mahmoud747 View Post

      Hi
      I'm Kind of newbie, hope everyone can share your experience in KW research

      If you found a keyword (whatever the no of monthly searches ), what is your strategy to say this kw is very hard to rank or it's ok and i'll go for this kw ?t
      and what is your tools in this process ?

      and what is your maximum level of competition you will never exceed which you think if you put more hard work for it you can rank ?

      Thank in advance
      Originally Posted by amirhf View Post

      I suggest you take a look at Page Ranks of the top 10 results. If you can not find a few pages with Page Rank less than 3, then the keywords is probably too hard to rank. On the other hand if you find some pages with PR 0 then it usually takes less time and effort to rank for that keyword. Make sure you have SeoQuake and Google Global plugins installed.


      There is really no absolute numbers for any keyword, there are too many variables and it is different for every person and will change as your knowledge grows. I can rank for keywords now that I would not have tried two years ago and I hope I will be able to rank for keywords in two years that I do not have the ability to rank for now.

      It is always a balance between how much work it will take and how much money you will bring in. You have to look at each case and make a decision that works for you. Nobody can give you a magic number.

      In general I would go after easy keywords to start while you are learning. I would also not build a site around one keyword, find 6-10 related keyword to build a site around. Succeeding on a few easy niches is a good idea before tackling some of the more difficult ones. Just remember not everything that works for an easy niche works for the more competitive ones.

      As far as tools I do a lot of automation, mostly bots I build myself. I do recommend scrapebox though. Even if you never do a blog comment it is still worth the money as it can scrape, sort, check pr and all types of useful things. Pretty much the swiss army knife of automation.
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  • Profile picture of the author abhibh
    Well to make things easier download Traffic Travis 3 or SERP Attacks. Both are free to use. Both the software's will analyze top 10 pages for a specific keyword and let you know their Page Rank, Backlinks, Age, Keyword in Title, desc and H1 tags etc.

    After analyzing with them use common sense and see if you can get to Page 1 for that keyword.

    P.S. These software's should be used just as a reference, they cannot be 100% correct.
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  • Profile picture of the author mahmoud747
    Thanks guys

    but don't you use alleintitle and allinurl ?
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    • Profile picture of the author ARVolund
      Originally Posted by mahmoud747 View Post

      Thanks guys

      but don't you use alleintitle and allinurl ?

      No. The only competition that matters is what is on the first page. None of those other numbers really mean a thing. While there are a lot of tools that can quickly give you a ballpark idea of whether a keyword is worth doing you should always look for yourself. Taking shortcuts will lead to nothing but wasted time and energy.

      I look at the #10,#5,#3, and #1 spots and ask myself if I think I can beat any of them and how much time and money it will take. Then I ask myself if the money that I am going to make off getting that spot is worth the work it will take to get there.

      If I answer yes to the answer of can I rank and yes to the answer of will it be a good ROI on my time and energy then I go for it. If the answer to either is no then I walk away.
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  • Profile picture of the author timpears
    Another vote for Traffic Travis 3. Download your free version here Free SEO Software | The Best PPC & SEO Management Tool -Traffic Travis You don't need the paid version.
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  • Profile picture of the author JimmyWrex
    I explain how I do it in this youtube video.

    Not saying that's the best way but it works pretty well for me.

    Hope that helps,

    Jimmy
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  • Profile picture of the author John Williamson
    Like some others have said, basically just look at the top ten results and their SEO figures/stats like PR, backlinks, anchor text, title tag, etc. and see if you can beat 'em.
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  • Profile picture of the author mahmoud747
    Thank you guys
    This info will really help me
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    • Profile picture of the author overtonis
      From what has been told me to by someone who runs SEO company locally. Dont worry about competition because anything of value will have significant competition unless you have discovered something the world hasn't seen yet. Instead keep your website "real" to the readers and don't try to spin them. Utilize social media and if you truly give people a "reason" to join your website community your social media following could swallow your competition with one big gulp. But key it to tap into a reason that will give you rivers of people wanting to discuss topics on your site. Then your biggest worry will be to pick from advertiser (who wants to speak to your audience) who offer your the best deal.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Ward
    I look at the sites on the first page and try to see if any of them understand SEO or if they're there by sheer luck. Usually if someone is there by sheer luck it's pretty much a wide open keyword, though.
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