Banned while creating Blog comment backlinks

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So, I'm a Noob at SEO stuff - so this maybe a really basic question but I couldn't find an answer on a search. I was busy trying to build backlinks having bought some packets and a couple of times I got banned. Later one site said that my email address was banned and let me through using another.

I am curious, how do email addresses get banned - I try to play nice, etc -

Should I be changing my email address fairly regularly?

Do forum moderators report "abuse" - to some central registry?

Any input welcome...
#backlinks #banned #blog #comment #creating
  • Profile picture of the author phowell23
    When you say your email got banned...where did you get a notice that it was banned?

    Where were you posting backlinks...forums, blog comments, ect?
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    • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
      My advice is forget backlink packets of any kind. If you think about it you will realise that the same backlinks have probably been sold to thousands of people - all rushing to leave comments on the same blogs.

      No wonder the blog owners are tired of irrelevant, mass comments and ban you.

      Instead, do a bit of research of your own. Find RELEVANT blogs without hundreds of spam comments. Then leave a relevant comment of your own.

      I'm sure it can only be a matter of time before Google starts ignoring links back from blog posts with hundreds of irrelevant comments and links - and I include .edu, .gov and .anythingelse that is littered with spam.

      Be sensible and careful with your backlinking strategy. What works for one subject doesn't work for another.
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      • Originally Posted by rosetrees View Post

        I'm sure it can only be a matter of time before Google starts ignoring links back from blog posts with hundreds of irrelevant comments and links - and I include .edu, .gov and .anythingelse that is littered with spam.
        You're right: it would be very easy for Google to ignore comments that have keywords in the name field of the comment.

        Or deindexing blogs that don't police comments. I'd favor that approach.

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  • Profile picture of the author Pablo25
    I wouldn't let me register - A little notification box popped up and told me my email address was banned - then I just changed only that on the form and voila - it went through.
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    • Profile picture of the author phowell23
      Originally Posted by Pablo25 View Post

      I wouldn't let me register - A little notification box popped up and told me my email address was banned - then I just changed only that on the form and voila - it went through.
      Had you ever posted a comment at that blog before?
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    • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
      Originally Posted by Pablo25 View Post

      I wouldn't let me register - A little notification box popped up and told me my email address was banned - then I just changed only that on the form and voila - it went through.
      You've probably been sent to "Akismet hell" - or whichever other spam blocker all those blogs use.
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  • Profile picture of the author Pablo25
    No. First time.
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  • Profile picture of the author phowell23
    That's strange - I've never heard of that happening. Have you seen it on other sites or just that one?
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  • Profile picture of the author Pablo25
    I ran into being banned a couple from a couple of other sites. One told me my ip address was banned - which is a public library's static ip - I thought fair enough. I assumed the other time was the same until now.
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    • Profile picture of the author jondabach
      Being slapped/banned is always heartbreaking. Especially when you've spent so much time and money into the thing. Affiliate products are great in that way - but it my opinion they take a lot more work. I HATE dealing with email from customers - just HATE IT! Adsense is worth its weight in gold for that reason alone.
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      • Profile picture of the author Spyder77
        Originally Posted by jondabach View Post

        Being slapped/banned is always heartbreaking. Especially when you've spent so much time and money into the thing. Affiliate products are great in that way - but it my opinion they take a lot more work. I HATE dealing with email from customers - just HATE IT! Adsense is worth its weight in gold for that reason alone.
        What do you think they are paying you a commission for? Its not simply to link to their sales page, no matter how you dress the link up or what kind of pre-sell you do. As an affiliate marketer you are a representative of that product to your customers. If they have an issue with the product, and they were sent to it from your website, then for many you'll be the initial point of contact. And for everyone else, you'll be a secondary point of contact if they have any issues (real or perceived) or don't receive a response back from the seller in whatever they consider a "reasonable" time frame (which could be 5 minutes).

        Its interesting how things have evolved over time and this type of "do as little as possible" mentality has evolved. My first offline business, almost 20 years ago, was as a partner in a computer company back in the days of MS-DOS and Windows 3.1, when computers were not plug & play and most people knew very little about them. We built our business from scratch by buying parts wholesale with an OS, assembling them (or "building" them as others call it), installing the OS & useful freeware, and selling it (delivered and set up, and with any Q&A to the customer's house) for a variable 20-35% mark up (the assembled, finished product was branded as ours).

        If there was an issue we provided the tech support at no charge for the duration of the warranty. If something broke under that warranty period, we replaced the part and sent it back to the OEM as an RMA for them to replace for us. The customer had their system fixed and back the same day. We usually waited 4-6 weeks for the part to arrive that we replaced from our stock.

        Different mentality I guess.

        -Spyder
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  • Profile picture of the author Pablo25
    Thanks for the answers. For me it is all interesting. The search for relevant blogs is the rub - I've been using Tweetdeck and searching the twittersphere for "new blog post: [keyword}" it works ok except the page rank of the blogs is usually 0 or 1 (if lucky) and they are no-follow, which isn't as valuable as do-follow - from what I've been told.
    Any other suggestions on finding good relevant blogs?
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  • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
    I run a couple of forums and yes .. there is a blanket blacklist or two available to us.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
    Banned
    Just stop spamming your links around and you won't have to worry about it. There is no central registry. Mods have to clean this up as it comes.
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    • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
      What about spamomatic .. askimet ... and a couple more groups available to v-bulletin owners?


      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      Just stop spamming your links around and you won't have to worry about it. There is no central registry. Mods have to clean this up as it comes.
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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
        Banned
        Originally Posted by Troy_Phillips View Post

        What about spamomatic .. askimet ... and a couple more groups available to v-bulletin owners?
        Well, the OP is talking about blog comments and then mentions forum admins. The two have nothing to do with each other. If he's spamming blogs with comments, the blog owners and/or their plugins are banning him. I don't use spamomatic or askimet, but yeah, they could be catching his comments.

        All he really needs to do is stop spamming blogs and problem solved. :rolleyes:
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        • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
          Apologies for being so pedantic but isn't it "akismet", as opposed to askimet?

          Or is askimet something else? :confused:
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          • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
            I looked and .. yes you are correct .... just what happens when us old farts get in a hurry lol.


            Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

            Apologies for being so pedantic but isn't it "akismet", as opposed to askimet?

            Or is askimet something else? :confused:
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            • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
              Originally Posted by Troy_Phillips View Post

              I looked and .. yes you are correct .... just what happens when us old farts get in a hurry lol.
              Sorry about that but I genuinely thought for a moment it was something different and I'd only ever been using Akismet.
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        • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
          YEAH .. if their comments are raising red flags with spamomatic ... good chance they are just spamming the hell out of everything they can.

          One of my blogs gets well over 500 comments a day (in queue as I always moderate) and I might get two comments a week I approve.

          The forums are different. Most of the spammers to the forums have figured out how to register this week .. place a visitor message a few weeks later .. after the owner has forgotten about them.

          All and all .. you have given the best advice .. in telling them just to quit spamming


          Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

          Well, the OP is talking about blog comments and then mentions forum admins. The two have nothing to do with each other. If he's spamming blogs with comments, the blog owners and/or their plugins are banning him. I don't use spamomatic or askimet, but yeah, they could be catching his comments.

          All he really needs to do is stop spamming blogs and problem solved. :rolleyes:
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      Just stop spamming your links around and you won't have to worry about it. There is no central registry. Mods have to clean this up as it comes.
      well no central registry that covers all the spammers (if that were ever possible). but......


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  • Profile picture of the author AdwordsMogul
    The reason why you are having trouble is that you are not really trying to contribute value. Shortcuts don't really work in the long term.

    You need to start building a proper business - otherwise you will frustrate yourself for a very long time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Anthony C
    You might be on the stopforumspam.com list. They maintain a centralized list and make it available to forum and blog admins through api lookups via plugins. I only know this cause one of my email addresses for profile links made the list and was flagged by a forum that I had never visited before. The filter they were using directed me to the stopforumspam.com site. That was over a year ago and I no longer do the packets and rarely do any forum profile links anymore.
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  • Profile picture of the author BenoitT
    If you can't login then your e-mail provider banned you. Are you using GMail?
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Nothing personal, but I'd have banned your ass, too.

      If you're dropping links on blogs and forums purely for a PR-value "do-follow" link, all you are doing is peeing in someone else's pool.

      On a side note, there is no such thing as "do-follow"...

      There is only "no-follow" or the absence of "no-follow".

      Add relevant comments that add value to the blog post without regard to PR value or no-follow status, and you might surprise yourself with the amount of traffic (real humans with credit cards, even!) you can get from those blogs you have so little regard for...
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    • Profile picture of the author Pablo25
      Originally Posted by BenoitT View Post

      If you can't login then your e-mail provider banned you. Are you using GMail?
      Yes, it was a gmail account...I'm curious why?
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  • Profile picture of the author Spyder77
    Simple rule of thumb I follow for blog commenting. I use my first name + from (or at) the anchor to my site, and I enter the same website name in the website field. In the body I make sure to provide a comment that is relevant and provides value to what's being discussed. The comment itself is anywhere from a couple sentences to a couple paragraphs. And I proofread it for spelling, grammar, and punctuation.

    Never been banned and my comments generally get approved. I often get an e-mail notification from the blogger's own reply to whatever comment I made, and this is something I haven't been making enough use of: I should be following up with a reply to those replies because for the minute or two it would take me to do it, there is more than a back-link that could come of it.

    Those possibilities are increased traffic from those blogs (I don't back-link my competition, but my niches have customers far beyond my competition) as I back-link for potential traffic as well as the link juice, and even possibilities of guest blogging or a back-link in a blog article to a post on my own blog (IM is a long-term thing for me, not a fly by night venture, and I therefore always keep an eye to long-term or distant rewards and gains, rather than focusing on the immediate ones).

    In other words, to get the most out of your back-linking, and get them approved without worrying about getting banned, think beyond just the link juice from the link itself. That extra minute you spend will not only increase the chances of getting it approved, but may create additional opportunities beyond the link itself.

    For that matter, its a philosophy worth applying to all of your IM efforts. One of the best pieces of advice I ever heard here was within a couple days of joining, and was one sentence along the lines of 'you will go farther in IM if you raise your gaze above IM.' Translated: don't base your efforts from the POV of what you're getting out of it, but think instead of what the other party is getting out of it and focus on providing it.

    Back-linking is one element, but it should apply to every other aspect of your IM efforts (for example, I don't use themes and customization based on what I like, I base it on what's going to appeal to the demographic the niche is targeting - for one site that means a bolder look, for another a more understated approach, etc.).

    -Spyder
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    • Profile picture of the author Pablo25
      Originally Posted by Spyder77 View Post

      Simple rule of thumb I follow for blog commenting. I use my first name + from (or at) the anchor to my site, and I enter the same website name in the website field. In the body I make sure to provide a comment that is relevant and provides value to what's being discussed. The comment itself is anywhere from a couple sentences to a couple paragraphs. And I proofread it for spelling, grammar, and punctuation.

      Never been banned and my comments generally get approved. I often get an e-mail notification from the blogger's own reply to whatever comment I made, and this is something I haven't been making enough use of: I should be following up with a reply to those replies because for the minute or two it would take me to do it, there is more than a back-link that could come of it.

      Those possibilities are increased traffic from those blogs (I don't back-link my competition, but my niches have customers far beyond my competition) as I back-link for potential traffic as well as the link juice, and even possibilities of guest blogging or a back-link in a blog article to a post on my own blog (IM is a long-term thing for me, not a fly by night venture, and I therefore always keep an eye to long-term or distant rewards and gains, rather than focusing on the immediate ones).

      In other words, to get the most out of your back-linking, and get them approved without worrying about getting banned, think beyond just the link juice from the link itself. That extra minute you spend will not only increase the chances of getting it approved, but may create additional opportunities beyond the link itself.

      For that matter, its a philosophy worth applying to all of your IM efforts. One of the best pieces of advice I ever heard here was within a couple days of joining, and was one sentence along the lines of 'you will go farther in IM if you raise your gaze above IM.' Translated: don't base your efforts from the POV of what you're getting out of it, but think instead of what the other party is getting out of it and focus on providing it.

      Back-linking is one element, but it should apply to every other aspect of your IM efforts (for example, I don't use themes and customization based on what I like, I base it on what's going to appeal to the demographic the niche is targeting - for one site that means a bolder look, for another a more understated approach, etc.).

      -Spyder
      I pretty much do the same type of posting and enjoyed your feedback. I too try to find something of relevance to comment on. I kinda racked my brain to figure out when I crossed the line but then reading some of the comments on this topic, I realized that there are some pretty zealous people around - so I got over it. I also do both the site-owner and myself the favour of Digging the page that the article appears on - giving us both some social media love.

      I am still looking for any information regarding a good way to find relevant blogs.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by Pablo25 View Post


        I am still looking for any information regarding a good way to find relevant blogs.
        Simple. find a subject you care about and have an interest in. I have hundreds of backlinks from blog comments and never have to worry about having them removed. In fact I have bloggers that ask to feature my site. Shocker of shockers!!!

        why? we care about the same things, write about the same things and it becomes obvious to the blogger that I am not just there for a link.

        Thing is there are literally thousands of bloggers in just about every area of interest but IMers are so short sighted that if they can't paste their keywords on a site they think it has no value. They skip over sites with good PR because they can't get their keywords past the moderation.

        ME?

        I don't care. I get links you won't get that build Pr to my IM keyword neutral pages and then link to whatever I want with the PR I build up there and I get to do that by posting about things I would post about anyway.
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      • Profile picture of the author Spyder77
        Originally Posted by Pablo25 View Post

        I am still looking for any information regarding a good way to find relevant blogs.
        If it hasn't been mentioned already, do a G search like so (say you're looking for one on headaches): headaches + "leave a comment"

        Or headaches + Wordpress

        To come up with relevant blogs, I try and think of the places I'll find my audience outside my niche. My first site was on migraine headaches, and I know from my social science background that there's a high correlation between migraine headaches and mood disorders (not everyone who has one has the other, but the relationship between them is far higher than among the general population). So one search term was depression + "leave a comment"

        And people with mood disorders also have a higher prevalence of anxiety disorders, so I targeted that as well. Which is the added value of going with a niche you're either passionate about or knowledgeable about (and ideally both, from my POV anyway), and its little things like that which allow you to use that knowledge to stand out from the pack, understand what your audience wants, and better be able to provide them with just that.

        Hope that helps.

        -Spyder
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  • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
    Good post Spyder.

    You'll find that plenty of blog owners are happy to approve your comment as long as it's on-topic. (No, "Great Post!" isn't enough.) Just provide a relevant and thought-out comment. Actually try to contribute to the post and you'll be fine.
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  • Profile picture of the author quickregister
    Sorry to hear that. Just keep putting out good original content and eventually it will work out. We are still in the trial and error phase of this business which makes it so exciting.
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  • Profile picture of the author dagaul101
    Might possibly be the forum has been getting a lot of complaints from a particular range of IP addresses, and decided to ban them and or the domain
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  • Profile picture of the author rafiseo
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    Originally Posted by Pablo25 View Post

    So, I'm a Noob at SEO stuff - so this maybe a really basic question but I couldn't find an answer on a search. I was busy trying to build backlinks having bought some packets and a couple of times I got banned. Later one site said that my email address was banned and let me through using another.

    I am curious, how do email addresses get banned - I try to play nice, etc -

    Should I be changing my email address fairly regularly?

    Do forum moderators report "abuse" - to some central registry?

    Any input welcome...

    The easiest way to build backlinks in forums that ban u is using "TOR"

    Download the Tor project from here........ http://www.torproject.org

    U can easily build backlinks in forums that already banned u.
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