SEO Forum - SEO services feedback needed (Hubshout, eBrandz, Endless Rise, Zeno, etc...)

Yeah - You should check out the other discussions that exist on this board. I know that I've talked to many people personally from TWF and some of them have posted feedback in the threads. I believe that's what you're looking for, right?

I also know that a few of our customers have posted over at SEO Chat Forums - another great source for honest / unbiased information on SEO resellers.

BTW - Smart move on your part to seek references. So few people actually do that and it amazes me.

Best of luck...

I think he said he was looking for some honest feedback from people who had used outsourcing organizations before... Not a sales pitch... LOL


Oh well... I guess that's gonna happen.


I was trying to think of other places you could go for objective feedback and suggestions on which services to try.... Obviously, talking to Warrior Forum members is a great start. But also remember, that most larger companies are not going to spend time in any place called "The Warrior Forum." I mean no offense by this as I've been hanging out here since 2007... I'm just stating that the type of audience you have here is MUCH more slanted toward the do-it-yourself crowd... (Again - I like those types of people).


You may want to consider other forums on the internet where bigger business folks hang out... You might find references through your linked-in network... You could also call whoever you are considering (including us) and ask for references. I am always amazed by how few people actually check references... It is a REALLY REALLY REALLY good idea... It cuts through the sales pitches and gets to how it really was to work with someone - warts and all.


And don't believe anyone who tells you there are not warts when it comes to SEO. There are always problems. SEO is a messy business, with very ambiguous definitions and TONS of customer confusion. This sets the stage for people to feel badly about a service unless you are really transparent with them.

I'm considering white label seo and website building - primarily looking at Hubshout. I found this thread through a Google search. While there are some good tips in this thread, it seems that nobody has given an actual review of Hubshout or other services to let us know if they deliver. I'm certainly not complaining - it just seems that the thread may be better served if someone could post an actual review.

Hey Zaxx,

This thread hasn't had action in a while, but I have to speak up. I'm a member here, but picked this thread up out on google and came in to look around. I've looked at the white label programs and tons of others, I used some hacks from far away places and after five years now of doing my own seo to save my construction businesses from the 2007 meltdown here's my opinion:
a). If you know very little about seo, I would start by getting a cheap education here on the forum. Why, because it will serve you well to know the lingo and so a service provider doesn't take advantage.
b). I've paid little for work that really lifted my site and paid a lot for work that did nothing or got me penalized, so I would look for a personal referral, if not from a personal friend, go to some local meetup groups, email some mid-level wso sellers on here or other people you see on posts that have been around or are asking smart questions. Then ask them for some recommendations.
c). If you're ranking for local terms in a city of 100,000 or less it's probably way easier than you think. I've ranked top 1/2 front page of google in days to a month. Larger cities like Atlanta, Chicago, Houston, Tampa, Miami, get tough as they get bigger, so of course NY and LA are about the toughest.
d). Don't look at number of items that come up as difficulty factor, type in "allintitle: chicago roofers" or "allintags: chicago roofers" as it is having the keyword in title or tag that represents competition, not number of items found.
e). You may want to find someone who will do keyword research and on page seo, including fixing content/pics/video, then shop around for off page seo, i.e. link building etc. I do both for friends, but not for free, usually spending 4-6 hours on keyword research, so charge $100-200 unless a really big site/job. On page, content, etc is harder to estimate, but usually $250-1,000. Your wasting time and money if you don't first figure out keywords you actually will get good buyers off / convert and you'll need to know how hard your task to have any idea what you'll need to do/spend.
f). Once you have great keyword research / strategy and get good quality on page seo w/seo quality content, pics and possibly a little video, you may already be on page 1 of google. Especially since this years corrections at google, it can happen. Lots of sites out there been pouring on links, making up for bad domain name, bad research, bad content, bad on page seo. A PR-0 site often can outrank PR-3 and up or at least make onto page 1. Tough local terms or national terms, less likely, but will still get you on page 2,5 or 10. You'll want to know where you stand before you even start off page seo, so do all this first.
g). Find referrals for off page seo as described above. The people you find for the keyword research, on-page seo, content, etc. may all want to bid, may have referrals for you (and won't want you unhappy so you keep using them for their part each time), etc. You may have already found someone and happy, but if not you are also welcome to message me and we'll get hooked up to talk via FB, email or whatever.
Hope this helps and sorry to be late for the party :-)

Garymac101

Yaros I purchased the reseller site and have sent 2 requests for support to the seomall support desk with no response. Is this operation working?

My site is almost ready to market but I need assurance on services and support. Please reply.

You came all the way to Warrior Forum to give your eBrandz testimonial in your very first Warrior Forum post?

Really?

purdue512 can you tell me what kind of marketing materials you guys provide that are white label? Also is there a monthly fee to sell these services as a reseller besides the fees for the seo work?

Never mind I just checked out your blog found answer there.