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13 years ago

Originally Posted by johnrapp

I have a bunch of auto-blogs that are set up using the CTR wordpress theme, designed to maximize the amount of people who will click on ads.

I'm buying proxy traffic from adf.ly and sending about 50,000+ visitors to my sites (actually ive been using the same PAGE on a single site b/c its the most profitable) every day for the past week or so.

Will this get me banned from Google AdSense? Someone told me that it would, but I wanted a second opinion. Plus I looked it up and couldn't really find anything on the proxy traffic issue, but it seems that Google is at least okay with the "Arbitrage" issue by itself....

Yes this will get you banned. Do NOT screw around with Google. They can tell if you are sending junk traffic to their ads. It is not worth risking your adsense account for something like this.

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BenJackson

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Kevin Marshall

Yes this will get you banned. Do NOT screw around with Google. They can tell if you are sending junk traffic to their ads. It is not worth risking your adsense account for something like this.

On the contrary, Google cannot ban YOU. They ban your account.

You have to decide if you want to build a house of cards, if you're prepared to keep rebuilding, or if you would rather just do things in a long-term whitehat way.

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Kevin Marshall

13 years ago

Originally Posted by BenJackson

On the contrary, Google cannot ban YOU. They ban your account.

You have to decide if you want to build a house of cards, if you're prepared to keep rebuilding, or if you would rather just do things in a long-term whitehat way.

True...I just get excited and write fast when I see a boneheaded strategy like this.

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BenJackson 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Kevin Marshall

True...I just get excited and write fast when I see a boneheaded strategy like this.

Understood, I wouldn't advise doing this either lol
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paulgl

13 years ago

I think you are mixing stuff up. Google allows paid traffic,
including programs like adwords. Why do you think they
keep sending us free coupons telling us to use it to send
traffic to our sites?

Then you mention adfly, in a question about adsense arbitrage.
That's why I first mentioned adwords above. Confusing as to
exactly what you were asking. So I re-read the post a few times.

I know nothing about adf.ly, so you have to decide if it breaks
the rules.

Does the person want to come to your site, is it all chance?
Is the person given a reward for visiting your site, or do they
do it for the heck of it?
Is the adsense site in a frame when loaded?
Does it display content in a frame?
Do any ads in the frame violate google TOS?

A person must want to visit your site and be taken to the site they
want.

No person can be given a reward in any program for visiting your site.

You can have adsense in frames, but you can't frame content, or have
content/ads that violate adsense TOS.

It looks like adf.ly is a url shortener that has ads somewhere.

I think it may not violate any adsense TOS on first look, but if you
cannot control the ads that appear, then what happens when
you get an ad for something adult, alcohol, tobacco, gambling,
illegal activities, etc. that violate TOS?

As people continue to try and get anything other than organic traffic to
an adsense website, the more people will continually end up with with
a thread about being banned.

Adf.ly looks like a BS program. I would make a crap page and blast my
adf.ly all over the place. But then, I'm sure that's what people do. So
what are the payouts? Probably pretty dang low and not worth the hassle.

Originally Posted by Kevin Marshall

True...I just get excited and write fast when I see a boneheaded strategy like this.

it's bonehead strategies that should make everyone upset, because it's this stuff that
makes google more and more militant. If you have read any of my adsense TOS posts,
you will now realize why I have a bite in my tone the majority of time.

Paul

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jonkjonk

13 years ago

Hmm... Buying proxy traffic and sending it to an autoblog.

Really?

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paulgl

13 years ago

Ya know, after re-reading that post for the umpteenth time, it
seems to me that maybe, just maybe, OP is talking about putting
an ad on the url shortner page that if clicked, goes to your site.

There is nothing wrong with that, as long as it follows google guidelines
as far as paid traffic. Google's empire is based on PPC advertising.

Paul

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Peter Lee

13 years ago

I think you have to ask yourself if this is unnatural traffic. If it is then you run a risk of getting Google come after you and ban your adsense account. Might be better safe than sorry if I were you.

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Kay King

13 years ago

buying proxy traffic from adf.ly and sending about 50,000+ visitors to my site

Proxy means one person authorized to act as an agent for another - so how do you have 50k in "proxy" traffic.

Sometimes I wonder if the trojan attacks that have been in the news recently have a purpose after all. Could it be those nasty worms planted in your computer that redirect your searches to a crappy site are turning you into a "proxy visitor"? Just kidding....I think.

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johnrapp

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

Proxy means one person authorized to act as an agent for another - so how do you have 50k in "proxy" traffic.

Sometimes I wonder if the trojan attacks that have been in the news recently have a purpose after all. Could it be those nasty worms planted in your computer that redirect your searches to a crappy site are turning you into a "proxy visitor"? Just kidding....I think.

kay

yeah i really doubt it man i dont know why you guys act like adf.ly is a ****in piece of **** , i mean i thought it was just about as legit as any other sort of web business?

you ask me to clarify the numbers not adding up in my "proxy" traffic... im just calling it what adf.ly calls it.

you gottao talk to the judge about that one man.

adf.ly is not involved in trojan attacks n ****. adf.ly is a url shortener, and they they pay people like $4 for every xthousand visitors they generate to each of that person's shortened urls.

on the other side, you can buy really cheap traffic. the cheapest is forty cents for 13,000 visitors. this is the "proxy" traffic. still real human beings, they guarantee that.

when you go to someone's adf.ly shortened URL, you are first presented with a 5 second frame at the top of the page and then the website of someone who bought traffic from adf.ly, ie, in this case my site.

then after 5 seconds the visitor can continue and view the URL that was linked to through the adf.ly shortened url that the visitor originally clicked on.

YOUR SITE is the advertising , so i dont think theres any worries about being placed along gambling/porno ads (someone mentioned that).

i really think this adf.ly is like a landmark decision in The Dude v. Google 2011.

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johnrapp

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

Proxy means one person authorized to act as an agent for another - so how do you have 50k in "proxy" traffic.

Sometimes I wonder if the trojan attacks that have been in the news recently have a purpose after all. Could it be those nasty worms planted in your computer that redirect your searches to a crappy site are turning you into a "proxy visitor"? Just kidding....I think.

kay

they say that a "proxy" hit is just someone who's connected to the internet using some form of "proxy" server. so what is stopping you from understanding the fact of sending 50,000 "proxy" visitors to my site?

whats really weird is that you seem to "know all about" this "proxy" "****e" but then ask a question like that?

i mean, seriously what are you talking about?????

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johnrapp

13 years ago

Originally Posted by paulgl

Ya know, after re-reading that post for the umpteenth time, it
seems to me that maybe, just maybe, OP is talking about putting
an ad on the url shortner page that if clicked, goes to your site.

There is nothing wrong with that, as long as it follows google guidelines
as far as paid traffic. Google's empire is based on PPC advertising.

Paul

am i OP?

adf.ly presents your website as a 5 second "advertisement" before visitors can then proceed to the link that they originally clicked on naturally goes to... this ****e is so hard to explain with words!

dont you guys like Anik Whatizface??

i'm using his PROFIT JACKPOT system for the autoblogs.

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paulgl 13 years ago

I saw an example, and this is just my opinion. Remember nobody works
for google here.

Just as I thought. A person clicks on the shortened url and is presented with
an ad to view before being taken the site they want.

Many large sites use ads like that, and have adsense.
But most have a "Skip this ad" button to be taken immediately to the
site. I can't remember if adfly has that. Because it does interfere, just
a little, with surfing to the site, it may be iffy.

That is, iffy to put an adsense site in the adlfy shortener url.

BUT...if you are buying the ads, then those are fair game. The people
are presented with an ad and can either click to your site or not.

That's perfectly within the rules. Buying traffic via ads is not against
adsense TOS, no matter how many times people misquote this.

What does this have to do with "proxy traffic?"

Paul
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- johnrapp 13 years ago
  
  When you go to buy traffic, you can buy traffic targeted to different areas of the world. There's also this "Proxy Traffic Deal" option, which is the cheapest.
  
  That is all there is to the involvement of proxy servers in this whole thing. I do understand that that makes it even more confusing ::b
  
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  paulgl 13 years ago
  
  There's nothing evil about traffic from a proxy server.
  
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johnrapp 13 years ago

Originally Posted by paulgl

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what are the payouts? Probably pretty dang low and not worth the hassle.

ive consistantly doubled my money sending adf.ly traffic to certain sites. thats why i am interested in it, its proving profitable (believe it or not).

i asked google directly on their Policy Clarification page, so i'll post in here what they have to say whenever i hear back from them.
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owenlee

13 years ago

You will get ban as google will still be able to see where the traffic are coming from..is their job to find out if the clicks are valid and I'm sure they will investigate the source of traffic..if they find it fishy they will just ban you..

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paulgl

13 years ago

Originally Posted by owenlee

You will get ban as google will still be able to see where the traffic are coming from..is their job to find out if the clicks are valid and I'm sure they will investigate the source of traffic..if they find it fishy they will just ban you..

But that has nothing to do with whether the clicks are valid. And nothing to
do with paid traffic. You could send "organic" traffic that sucks. Get smartpriced.
Or invalid activity, all within "normal" methods of traffic.

Paid ads are perfectly within adsense boundaries. Now what this all has to do
with "proxy" being bad, I don't know. Proxies are common across the web.

Paul

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Keen F

13 years ago

Sounds interesting, I'm testing out some cpa offers but haven't gotten any blaring successes yet. Did you manage to get a reply from Google?

imo it should be fine since the proxy option in adfly uses real people, but I don't know. Googles attitude to their affiliates is more confusing that a woman in her period.

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johnrapp

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Keen F

Sounds interesting, I'm testing out some cpa offers but haven't gotten any blaring successes yet. Did you manage to get a reply from Google?

imo it should be fine since the proxy option in adfly uses real people, but I don't know. Googles attitude to their affiliates is more confusing that a woman in her period.

i never heard back from google, but i might have missed the email....

i havent ever tried cpa offers, which ones are you using?

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blackplanet 12 years ago

I am really getting excited with this thread.

Pls update on your outcome with google. This seems to be a good experiment to try.

Lol.
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safexsolutions

13 years ago

Adsense Arbitrage is out for a long time..So wasting time and you will get ban your adsense account too...

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Mr Lim

13 years ago

Originally Posted by johnrapp

I have a bunch of auto-blogs that are set up using the CTR wordpress theme, designed to maximize the amount of people who will click on ads.

I'm buying proxy traffic from adf.ly and sending about 50,000+ visitors to my sites (actually ive been using the same PAGE on a single site b/c its the most profitable) every day for the past week or so.

Will this get me banned from Google AdSense? Someone told me that it would, but I wanted a second opinion. Plus I looked it up and couldn't really find anything on the proxy traffic issue, but it seems that Google is at least okay with the "Arbitrage" issue by itself....

Indeed you'll get banned from Google.
Google is not stupid, you think of 10 ways to increase your income, google thought of 100 ways so.

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johnrapp 13 years ago

Originally Posted by game333

Indeed you'll get banned from Google.
Google is not stupid, you think of 10 ways to increase your income, google thought of 100 ways so.

what kind of proof do you have to back this up?

i dont think google hates us as much as some people make it out to be ... but im also not the most experienced IMer on the block :b
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Kreative4

12 years ago

Using low quality traffic for adsense site will get you banned for sure. I used PTC traffic to one of my site around 3 years ago. Got banned within one week...LOL

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