Ordered from fiverr my SERPS DROPPED

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Hi,
My site was ranked no.2 - no.3 on major keywords for at least 1/2 a year.
I ordered 2 gigs from fiverr that promised to do something like 5000 links pyramid etc.
I was thinking to maybe jump them to #1
And now - my site dropped to like no.8 on the KWs!
And another important KW that was #15 is now #35.

HELP!
What do I do?

Thanks,
Jack
#dropped #fiverr #ordered #serps
  • Profile picture of the author eskimoto
    its never a good idea to to backlink blasts. you can even overdo it to the point that google sandboxes you.

    i would buy a small pack of very high pr backlinks and see if that helps.
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    • Profile picture of the author alphadesign
      Originally Posted by eskimoto View Post

      its never a good idea to to backlink blasts. you can even overdo it to the point that google sandboxes you.

      i would buy a small pack of very high pr backlinks and see if that helps.
      True! I really don't recommend to order big package of backlinks (definately not from Fiverr- they are usually spam and low ranking). One of my domain was sandboxed for about 8 months, so it wasn't visible on google and traffic was total 0!

      Instead, buy small high PR backlink packages and from people you trust. It helps your website more than those 5000 spam, low PR backlinks.
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    • Profile picture of the author budfox
      I really think these blog comment links are going to end up crashing and burning in a big way, and soon. Google knows what is going on and separating them from your website with a layer of poorly-written free blog pages does not keep Google from seeing what you are doing. It is link spamming any way you slice it.

      Yeah sure, it is working for now (for most people anyway). But I think we are building castles on sand. And these blogs where all the comments are being posted are not going to stay up, either. They are now getting hundreds of new comments per day from scrapebox users and they will simply end up using so much bandwidth/disk space that they will be taken down from the servers.

      At least with xrumer links the forum profiles are not an obvious self-destructing mechanism like this. Forum software can handle hundreds of thousands of profiles without putting a strain on resources like blog comments do, and the lists are harder to come by because they require clever scraping methods.

      If you want to use link pyramids order the articles yourself from Cyberhub for $3 each and post them yourself (or hire a fiver guy) on a half-dozen free blogs (webs, jimdo, thoughts, etc.) then hire a fiver guy who uses only xrumer to build profile links to them. Try to find a guy who has a list of high PR forums where the profiles are publicly viewable. It will take longer for the links to get found, but that looks more natural anyway and in my opinion is more of a house built on rocks.

      But really, all this gimmicky stuff will come to an end someday and we will need to build quality sites with good links from quality sites in order to get rankings.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Alves
    Originally Posted by jackcanbera View Post

    Hi,
    HELP!
    What do I do?
    You do nothing. Your site isn't penalized. It is normal to see rankings drop back after links are being built. I see it all the time. They eventually improve, but you need to wait for the links to give off value and improve rankings.
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  • Profile picture of the author stevenjacobs
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    Never over. Do it for google penalizes you
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    I have tested a number of Fiverr SEO offers, and for the most part, the vendor was selling smoke and mirrors.

    It did nothing for SEO.

    And what I mean by nothing is that it did not help OR hurt.

    Most likely, your move in the rankings was just a blip in the system.

    In the event the reason you dropped was something related to what the fiverr vendor did, then you can easily overcome that by doing more of the right stuff, and avoid doing the spammy stuff.

    Google is looking for "value links" -- links that indicate that the user is receiving value from the link builder, not any ordinary links.

    Give Google what it wants, and it will give you what you want.
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      I have tested a number of Fiverr SEO offers, and for the most part, the vendor was selling smoke and mirrors.

      It did nothing for SEO.

      And what I mean by nothing is that it did not help OR hurt.

      Most likely, your move in the rankings was just a blip in the system.

      In the event the reason you dropped was something related to what the fiverr vendor did, then you can easily overcome that by doing more of the right stuff, and avoid doing the spammy stuff.

      Google is looking for "value links" -- links that indicate that the user is receiving value from the link builder, not any ordinary links.

      Give Google what it wants, and it will give you what you want.
      So If I give Google money, they will give me money Back?

      Isn't that called PPC? :confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author dgaubatz
    I had a test site that i did something similar to this with. I got some high quality backlinks and my site was #3 then i went out and got 100 low quality trash links and went all the way to the 4th page. I watched the site over the next 2 weeks and noticed as those 100 links starting disappearing my ranks starting going back up, now i probably have 6 of those bad links left right now and i'm on the first page at #5.
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  • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
    Huge blasts on main page = bad. Especially if you don't know where the links are coming from.

    At best the services from Fiverr can be used to help get higher quality backlinks indexed.
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  • Profile picture of the author wackiin
    ive never tried that many at one time it should bounce back though
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  • Profile picture of the author jackcanbera
    Hi,
    Thanks for the replies.
    How long should it take it to come back?
    It has been ranked very very well for a long time.
    Thanks,
    Jack
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  • Profile picture of the author 36burrows
    Some of the best SEO services on Fiverr involve them creating a Squidoo lens or Hubpage with a link with your anchor text.

    There's more but yeah, stay away from the gigs that are offering you 100000 links for $5.
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  • Profile picture of the author MatthewGreen
    Sounds like you are just dancing. Give your site some time to settle. You should pop back to the top soon.
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    • Profile picture of the author J smith
      I've been out of the seo game for a bit, so perhaps things changed. But the way I see it:

      1) You cannot "damage" a site's ranking via backlings otherwise people would backlink their competition off the first page.

      2) Google looks for consistent link building - thus the natural slow at the start, more as time goes on backlinking (ie. your site is new, not many people know about it or link to it, as it gets more known more poeple link to it)

      Google is also suspicious of large amount of backlinks (more so on a site whose total # of backlinks is low) and can go into google dance, sandbox or drop you a few pages just in case, as it watches what will happen next.

      Think of it this way, if your site had a total of say 100 backlinks, and now you order a 5,000links pack. Don't you think it will throw up a red flag that your # of total backlinks just jumped up 50 times?

      Google will naturally look to see what might've caused this (maybe your site was featured on some very popular site and everyone is rebloging/linking it now) Since that's not the case and the 5k links are coming from junk sites (one would assume) It's only natural that Google would put your site back, just in case. If you continue to build quality links your site will come back up (usually).
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      • Profile picture of the author Steven Smith
        Originally Posted by J smith View Post

        I've been out of the seo game for a bit, so perhaps things changed. But the way I see it:

        1) You cannot "damage" a site's ranking via back-links otherwise people would back-link their competition off the first page.

        2) Google looks for consistent link building - thus the natural slow at the start, more as time goes on back-linking (IE. your site is new, not many people know about it or link to it, as it gets more known more people link to it)

        Google is also suspicious of large amount of back-links (more so on a site whose total # of back-links is low) and can go into Google dance, sandbox or drop you a few pages just in case, as it watches what will happen next.

        Think of it this way, if your site had a total of say 100 backlinks, and now you order a 5,000links pack. Don't you think it will throw up a red flag that your # of total backlinks just jumped up 50 times?

        Google will naturally look to see what might've caused this (maybe your site was featured on some very popular site and everyone is rebloging/linking it now) Since that's not the case and the 5k links are coming from junk sites (one would assume) It's only natural that Google would put your site back, just in case. If you continue to build quality links your site will come back up (usually).
        That is "spot on"!
        You can build those 5000 links (and Fiver Gigs can be VERY effective) don't believe that they cant be, I tested fiver on a couple of $2 .info domains and one of those are on the bottom of page #1 in Google and the other is on page #4 after 60 days and I did nothing but two Fiver Gigs each on them.
        I just did some social bookmarking and got a few EDU and .GOV links. DON'T over do it : )

        The key is CONSISTENCY in the number of links you create and also the VARIETY of links you create. LOT'S of links are easy, a good VARIETY of links that are CONSISTENTLY added is harder.

        The hard part about link building is the VARIETY portion as this usually requires MUCH more effort but is the key to high rankings.
        Your website went from however many links added per month etc to having hundreds indexed in a very short time. Fiver WORKS...but use with caution : )

        It will come back and may or may not be higher in the rankings, but most of the time it does.

        Even if you site was sand-boxed, (which it isn't because it's ranking) all those links and their link juice would still be applied to your site after it was out of the sandbox.

        Hope that helps!
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      • Profile picture of the author cooler1
        Originally Posted by J smith View Post

        I've been out of the seo game for a bit, so perhaps things changed. But the way I see it:

        1) You cannot "damage" a site's ranking via backlings otherwise people would backlink their competition off the first page.
        Using that same logic, you could say no one could get their competitiors Adsense account banned by sending dodgy traffic to their site, but we know that isn't true.
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  • Profile picture of the author mathman
    Backlinking like crazy at once looks like spam to google and you WILL drop because of it.
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  • Profile picture of the author LiftMyRank
    Do people actually think they can rank high for $5? Come on, if it were that easy we'd all be billionaires, you ain't gunna get no #1 ranking from a fiverr gig, you get what you pay for in this world.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Smith
      Originally Posted by John Moore View Post

      Do people actually think they can rank high for $5? Come on, if it were that easy we'd all be billionaires, you ain't gunna get no #1 ranking from a fiverr gig, you get what you pay for in this world.
      If your referring to my post above and read it a little slower than you did the first time you will see I didn't say what the competition for the sites I mentioned was.

      The bottom of Page 1 on Google has NEVER made me (or my clients) any money, so no you couldn't make a living from that, that isnt what I said.

      What I did say was I have used Fiver and it has helped and can be VERY effective in boosting rankings. The OP said in fact that he only did a 5000 link-wheel on Fiver and had the effect that it did on his site that it did, so CLEARLY Fiver had an impact on his rankings.

      I'm not looking for a debate on Fiver, I'm simply offering some input to the OP and his question, nothing more, nothing less.
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  • Profile picture of the author Talen
    Most fiver gigs aren't blasting 5000 links to your site it's usually 6-20 links to your site then a second tier of 5000 links to the original links. Most likely the OP is just experiencing the Google dance. I do have to say though that the misinformation in this thread did provide a good laugh.
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    • Profile picture of the author That Guy
      Originally Posted by Talen View Post

      Most fiver gigs aren't blasting 5000 links to your site it's usually 6-20 links to your site then a second tier of 5000 links to the original links. Most likely the OP is just experiencing the Google dance. I do have to say though that the misinformation in this thread did provide a good laugh.
      Yeah, you're right. I'm pretty sure I bought the same 5000 backlink pyramid from Fiverr and after it was completed I experienced some Google dance but after about a month I was at an even better position. Not only because of the pyramid, but because I made sure to keep a steady stream of backlinks coming.
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  • Profile picture of the author penpal6
    There are many complaints with Xrumer profile links Blast nowadays. You should not use Xrumer or ScrapeBox blats to your money site directly, instead blast your buffer sites with the help of the them.

    Directly blasting of money site with Xrumer will do more harm than good.
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  • Profile picture of the author thebitbotdotcom
    I think back-linking is something that I will never outsource. It just gets too shady too fast.

    My own SEO on and off-site is slowly maturing and a very interesting picture is developing.
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  • Profile picture of the author masspingtool
    Originally Posted by jackcanbera View Post

    Hi,
    My site was ranked no.2 - no.3 on major keywords for at least 1/2 a year.
    I ordered 2 gigs from fiverr that promised to do something like 5000 links pyramid etc.
    I was thinking to maybe jump them to #1
    And now - my site dropped to like no.8 on the KWs!
    And another important KW that was #15 is now #35.

    HELP!
    What do I do?

    Thanks,
    Jack
    because some of the fiverr gigs really hurts the ranking of the buyers.. regarding to blast create backlinks
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  • Profile picture of the author masspingtool
    why dont you try my gig related to linkwheel, bookmarking and rss submit
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  • Profile picture of the author jackcanbera
    Hey guys,
    Thanks for all of the replies.
    How long does a G dance take?
    Thanks,
    Jack
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Smith
      Originally Posted by jackcanbera View Post

      Hey guys,
      Thanks for all of the replies.
      How long does a G dance take?
      Thanks,
      Jack
      That's the proverbial "how long is a piece of string question" but it depends on a few factors, like for example, how many links are still being created and how long will they be added etc..

      It's a tough question but anywhere from 3 weeks to 6 months generally speaking.

      Best Of Luck To You : )
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    • Profile picture of the author vincentpeter
      Sounds like a Google Dance, i have had quite a few .info domains and blasted them with tens of thousands of links and we did saw quite a lot of movements (dance) in the SERP.

      So i don't believe in Sandbox, but i do believe that google gives you credit if do whatever you do but when its done consistently, even if that is blasting with scrapebox or Xrumer but you need to show some regularity and possibly some variety (Web 2.0, blog posts, press release etc). When you don't it messes up with Googles Algo and the effect is Google dance.

      Based on my experience to manage google dance, build links consistently, throw some variety and importantly have some patience you will be coming out stronger than before. I have seen this happening multiple times, i even once tested this on my competitor

      The worst thing that could happen to a website is getting deindexed, i guess that is not ur situation here.

      Cheers,
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      • Profile picture of the author jackcanbera
        Originally Posted by vincentpeter View Post

        Based on my experience to manage google dance, build links consistently, throw some variety and importantly have some patience you will be coming out stronger than before. I have seen this happening multiple times, i even once tested this on my competitor
        Cheers,
        Vincent

        I had a good LOL over here!
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  • Profile picture of the author trytolearnmore
    For this reason i only order AMR and UAW blasts. I just don't trust Xrumer, Scrapeboard and similar tools.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom L
    Keep linking to that site.... if you get a one time blast and stop than you're letting google know one of two things: An event happened and it is now over so the site can drop in rankings or you're doing something shady and it should also drop in rankings.
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  • Profile picture of the author msmir75
    OK guys I am seriously thinking of creating an account with Dripable.com, as they have already had a pretty good reputation even though they do thousands of blasts per day, but the reason they call themselves dripable is because they don't blast all at once, it drips naturally. So far I am still trying them out and I think they are ok. It is still too early to tell and they also have a high stick rate. Forget those Fiverr guys, anyone using Dripable?? If so what do you think?
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    • Profile picture of the author dripable
      Originally Posted by msmir75 View Post

      OK guys I am seriously thinking of creating an account with Dripable.com, as they have already had a pretty good reputation even though they do thousands of blasts per day, but the reason they call themselves dripable is because they don't blast all at once, it drips naturally. So far I am still trying them out and I think they are ok. It is still too early to tell and they also have a high stick rate. Forget those Fiverr guys, anyone using Dripable?? If so what do you think?
      Be happy to direct you to plenty of reviews or talk with you personally online if you have any questions.
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