Linking building/SEO can't be that difficult--why do the "experts" do this?

by Johnny Danes Banned
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Hey all!
Thanks for reading and responding.

I usually spend a nice chuck of money on SEO/Linkbuilding ebooks and courses.

What I am finding lately is-each one is contradicting the other and I've even seen folks of this forum that are selling SEO WSO's contradict what their competition is doing than when you go to the WSO thread, they very same person is giving a "glowing" review for the product that they contradicted in their ebook. :confused:

Good grief...............on top of that, they provide these massive elaborate mindmaps.

SEO/linkbuilding is not that complex.

We all know we need a variety of links and various places.


Why must the SEO experts make this stuff so complex?
#building or seo #difficultwhy #experts #linking
  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Wilson
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    • Profile picture of the author Goath
      Let me tell you one simple "secret".

      A killer secret no one knows about. A secret which will instantly change your mind.

      I will share an insight with you...

      Really, it's pretty KILLER stuff.

      THE SECRET:

      Here is the scret you are paying $97 dollars for...

      Hi, I am making A lot of money Look at my Clickbank Stats

      Do you know why? Because people like you are buying my **** with SECRETS and fancy words, but you know what:

      I just googled link bulding, changed others FREE webpages in my own words
      and sell it for $97

      This is how it goes most of the times...
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    • Profile picture of the author TheNewGuy2010
      Daniel,

      that's pretty much it.

      Put as much good content out there for SEO and traffic.
      That's all I do. Each piece on content is one additional traffic source.

      Submit 100 articles,100 PDF's and 100 Web2.0's, 100 videos with good content, that's 300 traffic sources.


      That's how I do it. Nothing complex




      Originally Posted by Daniel Wilson View Post

      All the complex answers to SEO is bull****. Good content and get your website out there through backlinking.

      Simple as that. Just do it 1000Ã-- more than your competition.

      People are contradicting to get attention and to (like you've said) sell their WSO's.
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    • Profile picture of the author hawthorn2008
      I agree with Daniel. You do need to put special attention to high PR sites such as: .edu and .gov - which google and other SE's love. if you have a wordpress site, you could use a plugin to make finding those sites real easy. we developed one called lazyseorockstar. simple to use and will save you hundreds of hours.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Because If everyone sold the same WSO they wouldn't get very many sales?

    Seriously though, the basics of seo are on-page seo & off-page link building.

    Still a lot of small details go into each thing that you are trying to optimize. An example of a specialty would be getting video thumbnail images in Google text SERPs without having a video.

    Another example is getting into parts of (not all) Google News without the need to be approved. I consider Google News related to SEO considering their scraped content gets a boost in the SERPs pretty easy on auto-pilot.

    Some SEO depends on what your trying to acomplish.
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    • Profile picture of the author BarryOnline
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      An example of a specialty would be getting video thumbnail images in Google text SERPs without having a video.
      That sounds interesting, I would imagine that you're getting a higher CTR with that little trick.

      Could you share some more details about how you are doing this?

      I understand if you don't want to though
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  • Profile picture of the author 36burrows
    Panda has created a lot of emotion in a whole lot of people. Many people are seeking to profit off of this emotion and drama while everyone else runs around like a decapitated chicken.
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by 36burrows View Post

      Panda has created a lot of emotion in a whole lot of people. Many people are seeking to profit off of this emotion and drama while everyone else runs around like a decapitated chicken.
      Lol, sad but true!
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  • Profile picture of the author dadamson
    SEO.... is easy!

    Very easy... but you can dive into the intricacies of it as well.

    There is so much infomation here on the forum so anyone can do it themselves, it is really good practice to do it yourself.

    But this is, it takes TIME. Link building properly and consistently sucks a lot of time from internet marketers who would rather spend their time concentrating on conversions, developing their strategies, and using their entrepreneurial brain.

    The reason for so much conflicting ideas in SEO is because NOTHING IS CERTAIN.

    There is no book or course that covers exact techniques that Google rewards websites, this is kept top secret from Google, and changing all the time.

    We can only ever test and measure our success based on our own methods, some things will work for some people and not for others, there are hundreds of variables in SEO and all of these working together can produce drastically different results for different people.

    No wonder there is so much conflict

    My advice would be to test a whole bunch of different methods and services and determine the one that works best for you.

    Keep in mind that SEO is an ever evolving medium and you will need to adapt to these changes.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheNewGuy2010
    Johnny,

    good question.

    As someone has mentioned.

    Nothing is certain. The people that put these ebooks just use what's already out there and create there own system.

    They all use the same link stuff, they just have a different mind map.
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    • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
      Originally Posted by Daniel Wilson View Post

      All the complex answers to SEO is bull****. Good content and get your website out there through backlinking.

      Simple as that. Just do it 1000Ã-- more than your competition.

      People are contradicting to get attention and to (like you've said) sell their WSO's.
      I disagree with you here. People are contradicting each other because there are more than a few ways to get a top ranking. What works for me, might not work for you in another niche with a different type of competition.

      Also, just doing more is not always the answer. Just do better, is more appropriate.

      Originally Posted by TheNewGuy2010 View Post

      Johnny,

      good question.

      As someone has mentioned.

      Nothing is certain. The people that put these ebooks just use what's already out there and create there own system.

      They all use the same link stuff, they just have a different mind map.
      Welcome to internet marketing. However, no, not everybody follows the same strategies when link building and doing SEO in general. I have put out a WSO on SEO and it has been pretty successful. Never had a refund to issue, many people PMd me and let me know how much it has helped them. Know why? Because I really wanted it to help beginners and help them get the results they want. Not only with SERPs but generating traffic using a variety of sources that may or may not help your ranking.

      Not everyone just wants to profit off of ignorance.

      TO THE OP.... There is a difference between linkbuilding, and doing SEO. Anyone can build links, that isn't difficult at all. The reason you feel it is complicated is because of certain tactics and techniques used. What works here, 100K profile links or 100 links of high PR sites in your own private network? What is going to work here, 10,000 blog comments or a high PR link push of 100 sites? Is a link push complicated to you? It definitely isn't simple especially if you're doing it manually.. but does it work? Hell yes.

      People are going to have different strategies. Someone could do things one way and get results, and another person can do things another way and get results. That is just how it works. Forget about the myths and common BS you will find people debating over.

      I think instead of just buying WSO after WSO... put the things to practice. Real life experience is much better than someones theory.
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  • Profile picture of the author realmaverick
    1. Not everybody has the time, to spend on SEO. Some want to focus on building their business.

    2. SEO is a mindset, it's not quite as simple as content and building links. Though it can be.

    3. You've only got to look at this forum, and see how confused people get themselves with SEO and how deep it can go.

    4. There are certain skills, such as networking, to obtain high power links, that not everybody can do.

    5. If you're going after a big keyword, I very much doubt, that without experience, you'll ever rank. A good SEO, could rank it for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author realmaverick
    Anyone can build links, that isn't difficult at all.

    Even then, it's not easy to build quality links. Especially for new comers to SEO.
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  • Profile picture of the author Becker13
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    Hey man,

    The reason for this is because they can. Since no one really knows how SEO truly works, people have 101 different views on how SEO really works. The very best way to know whose full of BS and whose legit is to simply look at their SEO sites..

    If a person is not going to provide proof, then chances are not everything is as it seems

    Stick to the basics, I know very few SEO master who do anything fancy. Create a GREAT site, get optimized backlinks to it and dont spam (to much)

    The best thing to take away from SEO courses is not so much the theory, but the overall understandinf of SEO. Put all of it together and develop your own opinion because honestly, until google releases a WSO on SEO there will never be a course that is a 100% accurate on how to rank highly in google
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    • Profile picture of the author TheFBGuy
      If you really think about it, it's really not any expert's fault, rather human nature. We do things based on what suits our personal taste or what resonates with us on a personal level. For example: Guy A may have explained his SEO methods in a way that YOU may have perceive it as "too simple"... off you go look for another explanation, and so on.

      People are never satisfied with ONE answer. So I wouldn't fault those who know and have capitalized on this and create course after course, ebook after ebook, lol.

      Like Solomon said in the bible:

      "There is nothing new under the Sun."
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  • Profile picture of the author OmarNegron
    Originally Posted by Johnny Danes View Post

    Hey all!
    Thanks for reading and responding.

    I usually spend a nice chuck of money on SEO/Linkbuilding ebooks and courses.

    What I am finding lately is-each one is contradicting the other and I've even seen folks of this forum that are selling SEO WSO's contradict what their competition is doing than when you go to the WSO thread, they very same person is giving a "glowing" review for the product that they contradicted in their ebook. :confused:

    Good grief...............on top of that, they provide these massive elaborate mindmaps.

    SEO/linkbuilding is not that complex.

    We all know we need a variety of links and various places.


    Why must the SEO experts make this stuff so complex?
    Simple. Because the more complex they make it and the harder they make it sound...the more money people will be willing to spend to fix the issue with their own websites...

    =-)

    -Omar
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