$600/month with a coupon site

by aloz
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Hi all,

I've just came across an auction on flippa and found a guy selling his coupon site:

bit (dot) ly/tqykb7

(Replace (dot) with a dot, Sorry, I can't post link yet.)
The site is established in Oct, 2011 and already make nearly $600/month. What do you think? Is this better than the Xfactor sites which focus on appliances and home improvement stuffs?
#$600 or month #adsense #coupon #money #site
  • Profile picture of the author RavishingRajni
    wish i had the knowledge to know what this i about
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  • Profile picture of the author aloz
    This is site flipping Rajni
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    • Profile picture of the author RavishingRajni
      Originally Posted by aloz View Post

      This is site flipping Rajni
      thnx...
      god i feel so stoopid -
      no idea what this is about
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  • Profile picture of the author jeffster
    Looks like he's done some work with it as he's got a bunch of links from articles back to his site but 20k visitors from organic search results in one month is pretty impressive!
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    • Profile picture of the author Matt Attack
      Coupon sites or product sites can both be effective. I don't think either one is significantly better than the other.
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  • Profile picture of the author retsek
    It seems that all Flippa has recently are coupon sites and SEO businesses for sale.
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  • Profile picture of the author aloz
    Originally Posted by RavishingRajni View Post

    thnx...
    god i feel so stoopid -
    no idea what this is about
    Everyone started with zero, just google "site flipping", you will find a bunch of good info to get started.

    Originally Posted by jeffster View Post

    Looks like he's done some work with it as he's got a bunch of links from articles back to his site but 20k visitors from organic search results in one month is pretty impressive!
    Yeah, I do agree. btw, what tool do you use the check the backlink since YSE is dead?

    Originally Posted by Matt Attack View Post

    Coupon sites or product sites can both be effective. I don't think either one is significantly better than the other.
    I tried product sites for quite a long time but it takes a lot of time to get to such earning. Maybe I didn't do it right though. I'm now doing some small authority sites but coupon sites really catch my attention.

    Originally Posted by retsek View Post

    It seems that all Flippa has recently are coupon sites and SEO businesses for sale.
    Yeah, and I do see some big click bank sites that sold for 6 figures.

    Originally Posted by makemoneyonline10 View Post

    wish i had the knowledge to know what this i about
    Just Google it, "site flipping"
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  • Profile picture of the author bhuff85
    Looks like a good site to me. I went through a few things and everything checks out like it should. If it stays as low as it is now, this would be a steal to pick up in my opinion.

    One thing that sticks out though is that the content is uber thin. Even on coupon sites, you should try to round out the content more. You can still add valuable content without the fluff, and that would be the first thing I would do if I had this site.
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    • Profile picture of the author aloz
      Originally Posted by bhuff85 View Post

      Looks like a good site to me. I went through a few things and everything checks out like it should. If it stays as low as it is now, this would be a steal to pick up in my opinion.

      One thing that sticks out though is that the content is uber thin. Even on coupon sites, you should try to round out the content more. You can still add valuable content without the fluff, and that would be the first thing I would do if I had this site.
      I agree with you on the thin content but for a coupon site, especially targeted like this one, what else can you add beside updating the current coupon offers? The way to make more content I think is to build more general site such as retailmenot so you can add additional coupons, not just one like this site.
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  • Profile picture of the author Oranges
    Good site. Beauty of these Coupon sites is that they work so well with CPA zip/email submit offers, in case you're adsense account is banned. So there is a plan B always with these types of sites.
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    • Profile picture of the author aloz
      Originally Posted by Oranges View Post

      Good site. Beauty of these Coupon sites is that they work so well with CPA zip/email submit offers, in case you're adsense account is banned. So there is a plan B always with these types of sites.
      I don't know much about CPA but from PPC formula 3, which I have watched, the author said you always have to have a landing page. Have you done promoting CPA with coupons sites without a landing page like this?
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      • Profile picture of the author Oranges
        Originally Posted by aloz View Post

        I don't know much about CPA but from PPC formula 3, which I have watched, the author said you always have to have a landing page. Have you done promoting CPA with coupons sites without a landing page like this?
        You don't always need landing pages to promote CPA zip or email submit offers. For instance if you have a coupon site on "Wallmart gift cards" or "Free Subway Coupons" then you can really do well with banners (Above the fold placement) and text links in your content. There are many CPA offers related to these you can find on CPA networks like peerfly.

        Yes, i do have plenty of these coupon sites that are made for these CPA zip and email submit offers, and i also use adsense on them as a supplemental income source. However, my CPA offers conversion are always way way better than what adsense does for me.

        You can also build your email lists with these coupons sites as well, and cash on that. For instance the flippa website you mentioned have over 10K visitors a month, and imagine half or less of those visitors will subscribe to the email list of that site, then it may end up being a massive list, that you can use again and again to drive traffic to your other CPA offers as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author Barry Unruh
    The problem with these sites, which the creators are usually aware of is..

    #1 - Trademark infringement.
    #2 - Google may love them today, deindex them tomorrow once a manual review occurs.

    Is it worth the $$$?...maybe...if it survives #1 and #2...
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  • Profile picture of the author outwest
    What kind of CPA offers do you send coupon site people
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    That's the exact type of keyword I would target on Flippa research.

    They are selling an 8 page site for $6,000, heck you can beat that site for $600 or less.
    • Domain name = $10
    • Content = Your own time, maybe a little out-source
    • External backlinks = $500

    I see 49K traffic (Local) per month on GAKT, for that exact keyword (forever 21 coupons), Google Trends is solid for the entire year.
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    • Profile picture of the author aloz
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      That's the exact type of keyword I would target on Flippa research.

      They are selling an 8 page site for $6,000, heck you can beat that site for $600 or less.
      • Domain name = $10
      • Content = Your own time, maybe a little out-source
      • External backlinks = $500

      I see 49K traffic (Local) per month on GAKT, for that exact keyword, Google Trends is solid for the entire year.
      I think the site doesn't only have traffic from its main keyword but also the massive over 3 million searches forever 21 (it currently ranks #5). I don't know what kind of backlink he used but seems to be powerful enough. With $500, what type of service you would recommend?
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by aloz View Post

        I think the site doesn't only have traffic from its main keyword but also the massive over 3 million searches forever 21 (it currently ranks #5). I don't know what kind of backlink he used but seems to be powerful enough. With $500, what type of service you would recommend?
        You could start with BMR links, & scale up once the site starts earning.

        Personally I would target the keyword (forever 21 coupons) first. Do some hardcore on-page SEO (silos ) then start with the external backlinks.

        RetailMeNot is #1 for 49K traffic per month, looking at their SERPs I'm sure they are only ranking because of the fact that they have thousands of pages that include the keyword coupon. Their on-page seo is extremely weak.

        You can still own that keyword, because they are not really even trying to rank, they are banking on that coupon keyword.

        Get a double/triple SERP listing & you'll dominate the keyword forever 21 coupons, which is good traffic (49K per month).

        I would defiantly target CPA zip/email submits offers that pay out $1.00+, any CPA related to Victoria's Secret should do well with that traffic.

        Don't worry about an EMD, that keyword above can be taken with an internal landing page & maybe 20-30 tightly themed internal supporting pages, all with keyword anchor-text pointing at each internal page.
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        • Profile picture of the author outwest
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          You could start with BMR links, & scale up once the site starts earning.

          Personally I would target the keyword (forever 21 coupons) first. Do some hardcore on-page SEO (silos ) then start with the external backlinks.

          RetailMeNot is #1 for 49K traffic per month, looking at their SERPs I'm sure they are only ranking because of the fact that they have thousands of pages that include the keyword coupon. Their on-page seo is extremely weak.

          You can still own that keyword, because they are not really even trying to rank, they are banking on that coupon keyword.

          Get a double/triple SERP listing & you'll dominate the keyword forever 21 coupons, which is good traffic (49K per month).

          I would defiantly target CPA zip/email submits offers that pay out $1.00+, any CPA related to Victoria's Secret should do well with that traffic.

          Don't worry about an EMD, that keyword above can be taken with an internal landing page & maybe 20-30 tightly themed internal supporting pages, all with keyword anchor-text pointing at each internal page.
          How would you monetize a kw like that?
          I dont think Adsense allows kws with Company names like that

          for example try to target SONY and see that the CPC is ...not found, or doesnt exist for that

          so to monetize a kw like that? would be I assume getting a mailing list with opt in on the side? and then selling them what/?
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          • Profile picture of the author yukon
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            Originally Posted by outwest View Post

            How would you monetize a kw like that?
            I dont think Adsense allows kws with Company names like that

            for example try to target SONY and see that the CPC is ...not found, or doesnt exist for that

            so to monetize a kw like that? would be I assume getting a mailing list with opt in on the side? and then selling them what/?
            Just like I said with a CPA offer.

            I would defiantly target CPA zip/email submits offers that pay out $1.00+, any CPA related to Victoria's Secret should do well with that traffic.
            Forever21 is womens clothes, so is Victorias Secret.

            Last I checked, Maxbounty had a CPA email submit offer for Victorias Secret with a payout of $1.80 (or something like that).

            Even at 1% of 49K traffic per month x $1.80 = $882.00 (per month)
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    • Profile picture of the author outwest
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      That's the exact type of keyword I would target on Flippa research.

      They are selling an 8 page site for $6,000, heck you can beat that site for $600 or less.
      • Domain name = $10
      • Content = Your own time, maybe a little out-source
      • External backlinks = $500

      I see 49K traffic (Local) per month on GAKT, for that exact keyword (forever 21 coupons), Google Trends is solid for the entire year.
      Yukon how do you break down the $500 for external backlinks
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by outwest View Post

        Yukon how do you break down the $500 for external backlinks
        That was just a rough estimate, $500 will buy you 8 months worth of backlinks at BMR ($59 per month), with some change left over. You should be ranking in less than a month or so, just depends how aggressive you are with the site content & seo.

        The competition for that keyword (forever 21 coupons) is very weak IMO. That's damn good traffic (49K) for such weak competition.

        Seriously I'm betting a triple SERP listing would be very attainable for that keyword.

        I would focus a single category with hardcore internal linking, until I dominated that keyword. Then build it up stronger just to top it off for long term SEO.

        By the time you rank for that keyword you should start seeing new longtail keywords popping up. Take the best new longtail keywords & repeat with a new category the exact steps you took to rank the first keyword.

        Every time you target a new keyword phrase, you'll see new long tails popping up with decent traffic, it's like a chain reaction of new keyword phrases once you get the first keyword ranked.

        Obviously only target the best traffic longtail keywords.
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  • Profile picture of the author bhuff85
    Yukon - I thought the same thing. Competition is pretty weak on the front page and can be easily beat without investing any money into another site. Just depends on what the OP wants though. Pay up the cash and not worry about messing with it or spending less and working on it themselves. It's a win-win either way, especially since you know the keyword has proven itself to be an income generator.
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  • Profile picture of the author tylerjaysen
    yeah that site seems to be ok regarding organic searches...but content is a little thin and he is multiplying monthly income by a factor of 10...so $6K. If this income is consistent then might be a good buy. However, will be 10 months at this rate before you see any profit.
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  • Profile picture of the author aloz
    Thank yukon for the precious input. Do you think BMR alone is enough or is it necessary to use more link type, not this keyword in particular but for other keywords, maybe tougher too?
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by aloz View Post

      Thank yukon for the precious input. Do you think BMR alone is enough or is it necessary to use more link type, not this keyword in particular but for other keywords, maybe tougher too?
      It all depends on how strong/weak the competition is for the keyword.

      I tried to check that keyword above that RetailMeNot is ranking #1 for with SeoSpyglass, for some reason it's getting stuck at 1% then locks up (figures, I just did an update on the software).

      I would start with BMR or something similar just to get things started & see how close you get to #1 in the SERPs, that & awesome on-page SEO will give you a good idea how much future work it's going to take to rank your page.

      Example, If BMR gets you to position #3 in the SERPs for your keyword & your seeing half way decent traffic, then break out the BIG guns & get a few higher quality/PR backlinks, let the site sit for a week or two & see what happens, repeat the higher quality/PR links If needed...
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    They ought to rename Flippa Crappa IMHO
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by mosthost View Post

      They ought to rename Flippa Crappa IMHO
      Lol, it's good for keywords.

      Seriously they do need to be a lot pickier about who they let sell websites.

      I'm surprised someone else hasn't stepped up to offer the same type of auctions, only for quality sites/sellers (no junk).

      It's not exactly easy to find the good sites on Flippa without wading through all the junk. Some sites on Flippa are good, it just takes a lot of work & some luck to find them.
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      • Profile picture of the author mosthost
        Originally Posted by yukon View Post

        Lol, it's good for keywords.

        Seriously they do need to be a lot pickier about who they let sell websites.

        I'm surprised someone else hasn't stepped up to offer the same type of auctions, only for quality sites/sellers (no junk).

        It's not exactly easy to find the good sites on Flippa without wading through all the junk. Some sites on Flippa are good, it just takes a lot of work & some luck to find them.
        It's a really good place to steal someone's business model
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  • Profile picture of the author Goath
    Yes, investing $6000 today will bring you tomorrow 1000 competitors...

    A waste of money... Just be one of the 1000 competitors..
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by Goath View Post

      Yes, investing $6000 today will bring you tomorrow 1000 competitors...

      A waste of money... Just be one of the 1000 competitors..
      Thing is, that Flippa auction pointed me in the right direction for a similar keyword with 90,000 exact local search per month.

      Obviously I'm not saying what the keyword is. I will however setup a few test pages to test the competition strength, which looks very weak. I see the #1 guy has 6 related pages, the 4th guy has a 4 page blogspot ranking with 3 pages of zero content (privacy policy, etc...) & monetizing with a CPA email submit.

      If that GAKT traffic number is remotely close to 90K traffic that's some easy traffic to not be targeting.

      Thanks goes out to Flippa.
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    I dont understand CPA I guess I have to learn that business model
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