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12 years ago

Build as many backlink as possible by mixing anchor text (a lot) as well as doing backlink to all other page not only homepage. Also mix of high PR backlink as well as low PR backlink.

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ruoall

12 years ago

Huh? What you on about?

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Tenzho

12 years ago

LOL, Test for yourself

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danlew

12 years ago

For this year, build fresh backlinks coming from the latest sources of blogs, videos, press release sites and even social media sites such as Google plus.

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Chris X

12 years ago

That wasn't funny at all.

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nicktyler

12 years ago

SEO for 2012? I will do the same as the end of 2011 but better.

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richardtj

12 years ago

relevant backlinks from blogs, forums, articles, posts, replies, other sites, mix it up, mash it up and add in plenty of fresh content.

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4morereferrals

12 years ago

effing lame thread - reported ...

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discustipated 12 years ago

Originally Posted by 4morereferrals

effing lame thread - reported ...

what a douche. Im sure you lost out on a ton of valuable time.
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Paul Myers

12 years ago

Actually, Steve, that post makes perfect sense. I suspect you'd probably add a lot of qualifiers to it, like "Learn from people with experience, but..."

He makes a good point. Just not in a way most people will get, because they're looking for something more than what it is.

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josefilo

12 years ago

1) using Google alerts : Google Alerts - Monitor the Web for interesting new content
2) mass blog commenting with more than 2000 anchor text for all pages and posts in my blog.
3) harvest new posts and pages from auto approve blogs and comment on theme using scrapebox.

that's all what i do for micro niche websites.
hope that's can help you.

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Rus Sells

12 years ago

You test FOR me!

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IM Ash 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Rus Sells

You test FOR me!

That's why service providers are on the top of the food chain :p

Originally Posted by ruoall

Huh? What you on about?

This for me is the response for the day!!! WHY? SEO is a dynamic entity that changes its face everyday, if you not testing then the face remains the same!

Originally Posted by 4morereferrals

effing lame thread - reported ...

You have revealed why you are here... mystical (is it?) I think not!

Originally Posted by nicktyler

SEO for 2012? I will do the same as the end of 2011 but better.

...better only comes from knowledge and you know what you know because you tried something out?!? WELL DONE!

Originally Posted by wordsofmagic

increase brand awareness with twitter and facebook.

Over-rated!!! The social factor is perception (seo wise) but there is traffic that can be gained and yes you are right about building brand awareness via social mediums but unfortunately most people on this forum forget (or don't know much) about business principles.

Source: (my business degree which is useless in the IM world)
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mosthost

12 years ago

This is actually the best advice I ever read here on SEO!

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wordsofmagic

12 years ago

Increase rank with contextual linking, link build and increase brand awareness with twitter and facebook.

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Mike Anthony

12 years ago

Not really necessary half the time. For SEo you have Google sitting right there. Study the serps for yourself and learn. Running tests for yourself is good for some things and like reinventing the wheel for others - waste of time.

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IM Ash

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Study the serps for yourself and learn..

:rolleyes:

Edit: you not passing over the true SEO culture Mike when you speak about "re-inventing the wheel". C'mon Mike you know the amazing feeling when you uncover something that not many others know. And that only comes from trying things out (testing).

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Mike Anthony

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Eleva8

:rolleyes:

Edit: you not passing over the true SEO culture Mike when you speak about "re-inventing the wheel". C'mon Mike you know the amazing feeling when you uncover something that not many others know. And that only comes from trying things out (testing).

Not for me El. I see secrets in the serps quite often without having to do the tests myself plus I can cross check and verify them against a ton load of other results to rule out biases that would inevitably be in my own tests.

Every single serp out there and especially the competitive ones are in fact somebody's test. Why redo it when I can just look over the data of several sites that tried the same thing? But I get you for somethings sure. I'm just not going to reinvent the wheel" though to see if it rolls when I look at the serps and see them rolling like crazy.

I'm talking practicality here not just disagreeing for debate. Tests take time. Take the nofollow debate here over and over. Every time somebody says they are going to run a test. I say fine. Waste your own time I won't. I look over and over again in the serps and don't find sites doing well without followed links. I'd rather rank as my amazing feeling.

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IM Ash

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Not for me El. I see secrets in the serps quite often without having to do the tests myself plus I can cross check and verify them against a ton load of other results to rule out biases that would inevitably be in my own tests.

Every single serp out there and especially the competitive ones are in fact somebody's test. Why redo it when I can just look over the data of several sites that tried the same thing? But I get you for somethings sure. I'm just not going to reinvent the wheel" though to see if it rolls when I look at the serps and see them rolling like crazy.

I'm talking practicality here not just disagreeing for debate. Tests take time. Take the nofollow debate here over and over. Every time somebody says they are going to run a test. I say fine. Waste your own time I won't. I look over and over again in the serps and don't find sites doing well without followed links. I'd rather rank as my amazing feeling.

I love this response Mike!!! And yes, you are right... I know you have many detractors out there but I'm not one of them because I tend to agree with you most of the time... you have made me alter the opening post to a degree...

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Mike Anthony

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Eleva8

I love this response Mike!!! And yes, you are right... I know you have many detractors out there but I'm not one of them because I tend to agree with you most of the time... you have made me alter the opening post to a degree...

Glad to be of assistance. You'd be surprised regarding detractors. I have more friends than detractors but they PM or email me me not post in threads so the detractors are louder.

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JSProjects

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Not really necessary half the time. For SEo you have Google sitting right there. Study the serps for yourself and learn. Running tests for yourself is good for some things and like reinventing the wheel for others - waste of time.

This.

See what the top sites are doing and incorporate some of their tactics into your own campaigns. That's all there is to it, really.

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silverace

12 years ago

he's right. not everything works for everyone and you just have to test for yourself what works for you.

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tylerjaysen

12 years ago

wait....what? This was a killer headline to the thread....but the content ...um pretty weak. So are you saying the holly grail for SEO is testing and tweaking?

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IM Ash

12 years ago

Originally Posted by tylerjaysen

wait....what? This was a killer headline to the thread....but the content ...um pretty weak. So are you saying the holly grail for SEO is testing and tweaking?

The holy grail to seo is discovering the answers for yourself... the sooner you do that the less money you will waste on poor SEO services that deliver F#*all

BTW.. I'm a marketer.. the headline rulez!!!

P.S: I'm not selling anything

P.S.S: Sorry, I am selling something... the truth

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Marketing Fool

12 years ago

SEO? Does that still exist? Doesn't it basically just come down to "do nothing and hope Google doesn't arbitrarily decide to deindex your site for no reason"?

*lol*

But really...at this point, any SEO strategy seems useless and pointless...once you test and figure something out, Google changes the rules and bans you for trying anything...

But that's why it's so fun I suppose...

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IM Ash 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Marketing Fool

But that's why it's so fun I suppose...

Agreed!

It's a science that has no rulez... yee--ah! I'm passionate about it!
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bmcgoff

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Marketing Fool

SEO? Does that still exist? Doesn't it basically just come down to "do nothing and hope Google doesn't arbitrarily decide to deindex your site for no reason"?

*lol*

But really...at this point, any SEO strategy seems useless and pointless...once you test and figure something out, Google changes the rules and bans you for trying anything...

But that's why it's so fun I suppose...

So what are you doing these days? Just started reading your blog...

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gearmonkey

12 years ago

For 2012 I am going for high pagerank and quality backlinks. I'm done using 50k blog comments- and 10k forum profiles-type links.

One high quality PR3 is more valuable than 100,000 low quality (indexed) spammy backlinks, not even mentioning the 500,000 that will never get indexed.

Quality, quality, quality is my 2012 motto. Everything else is a waste of time.

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paulgl 12 years ago

Well, Eleva8 is getting no love, but look what was started.
Not a bad little thread with some gems, actually. Unfortunately,
the WF gets buried in an avalanche...

This thread has a good name. The Holy Grail. Aint been
found yet...

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limestone614

12 years ago

Originally Posted by gearmonkey

For 2012 I am going for high pagerank and quality backlinks. I'm done using 50k blog comments- and 10k forum profiles-type links.

One high quality PR3 is more valuable than 100,000 low quality (indexed) spammy backlinks, not even mentioning the 500,000 that will never get indexed.

Quality, quality, quality is my 2012 motto. Everything else is a waste of time.

Exactly why we do things like this for clients:

Cruises from Southampton 2012 - Every Cruise Line, Every Cruise

Purely for the SEO value the site will provide in 3-6 months. It's not built fully yet, perhaps only up to the middle of the P&O section.

It is targeting a handful of keywords only and in many respects is actually a better site than lots of "proper" cruise agents, certainly as far as SEO goes.

Obviously it's a large client, but it gives you some idea of the competition for the bigger keywords, and the lengths that go into taking and keeping them.

We don't touch blog comments, and that type of thing.

High value backlinks are the only way and for big business it's best to control the site the links come from.

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Crank

12 years ago

That is what I call a Great Title lol

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webworm

12 years ago

You have provided a new technique for me! A good title with no content .

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gs000707 12 years ago

Originally Posted by webworm

You have provided a new technique for me! A good title with no content .

And that's what life is all about.

I like things, which are not mainstream, however I came here to learn from professionals, so however this topic is considered, it's not helping much or at least to me. But it certainly does lighten the atmosphere around here, hehe.

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thebitbotdotcom

12 years ago

SEO 2012 will be the same as it was in 2011...great content...stellar behavioral metrics...a legit natural link profile.

Anything less will be running around in circles...

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Ettienne

12 years ago

Work smarter, not harder

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raytheseoguy

12 years ago

So what changes do you see happening this year?

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seopratik

12 years ago

great title and no content ...so funny

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bmcgoff

12 years ago

I will pay a team of experts to do it all for me! Oh, and use Build My Rank because I've heard good things...

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yukon

Banned 12 years ago

I agree with Mike A., the SERPs have all the answers to everything related to SEO.

What happens in the SERPs is mostly an algorithm spitting out results, those results happen for a reason, most times it's not difficult to reverse engineer what's happening, then apply that same strategy to your own pages.

Learning SEO is all about being a better SERP detective & digging in to find out how things work. It all happens for a reason.

When I see something interesting happening in the SERPs, I bookmark the search results & sometimes take a full page screenshot for reference. Later on when I have time I look into what's creating those interesting SERP listings.

All of my own SEO training has been sponsored by thousands of sites that I've never owned. I do appreciate the fact that they let me stop by every now & then to reverse engineer their pages.