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Google harsher on new sites than Yahoo or Bing?

by kiwiviktor81
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Was just going through my Traffic Travis stats, and noticed that for every one of sites and for every keyword for every one of those sites, I was ranked higher in Yahoo and Bing than I was for Google. Which is bad for me because more traffic comes through Google (although it is obviously good for someone else). In some cases I am on the front page for a keyword in Yahoo that doesn't even rank me in the top 100 for Google.

All of my sites are < 6 months old, and the ones that outrank me on the Big G appear to be ancient, so I wonder if Yahoo and Bing give more weight to non-age factors than Google does, meaning that patience on my part is the key to more Google love. Any ideas?
#bing #google #harsher #sites #yahoo
  • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
    I've always found it easier to rank newer sites in Bing / Yahoo. Not 100% sure why, but it usually seems to be the case.
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    • Profile picture of the author kiwiviktor81
      Do you find that, over time, the Google rankings catch up to the Yahoo/Bing ones? Or does Google just always lag behind for you?
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  • Profile picture of the author deucegmarketing
    Google is much faster in re-ranking sites, etc. but new sites don't have the authority to jump right to the top. Yahoo and Bing take SEO much different than Google does, so you may be marketing in a more Yahoo/Bing friendly manner than what Google wants to see. I have new sites that do the exact opposite of what you are experiencing and it has to do with the differences in our marketing most likely.
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    • Profile picture of the author kiwiviktor81
      Originally Posted by deucegmarketing View Post

      Google is much faster in re-ranking sites, etc. but new sites don't have the authority to jump right to the top. Yahoo and Bing take SEO much different than Google does, so you may be marketing in a more Yahoo/Bing friendly manner than what Google wants to see. I have new sites that do the exact opposite of what you are experiencing and it has to do with the differences in our marketing most likely.
      This interests me because my SEO strategy is content-oriented and I don't have a lot of backlinks. Do you have the opposite?
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      • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
        Originally Posted by kiwiviktor81 View Post

        This interests me because my SEO strategy is content-oriented and I don't have a lot of backlinks. Do you have the opposite?
        Pretty much what I've experienced. Bing / Yahoo is a lot quicker to rank a new site as long as the content is solid. So I'm betting they place more of an emphasis on content. (And are willing to rank you fairly well pretty quickly.) Google loves good content as well. But they seem to take a bit longer to rank it.
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  • Profile picture of the author bobcarlsjr
    it's the opposite for me.. my sites are now 3-4 months old.. google ranking is tremendously better.. page 2 in google.. no where in yahoo.. page 4 in bing..
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  • Profile picture of the author joshpatterson
    I have two brand new domains I am beginning to try and rank. Within 2 months they are both on the first pages of Bing and Yahoo, however between pages 6-10 on Google. It is my experience that Google has a 'wait and see' mentality in regards to new websites.
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  • Profile picture of the author lukedidit
    Yep, I have seen this two.

    Google lovingly patted my on the head and gently placed my new site at rank 26 - the next week the loving hand turn to a fist smacked me all the way back to 93
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  • Profile picture of the author bermuda
    Since your website is still less than one year old, so that could be the logical explanation because mostly Yahoo and Bing do not care that much about ages of the websites and as long as they have some good content pages plus packs of links, they will be given ranks, even better than the older domains in the niches. The age factor is nothing new in terms of examining web ranks of domains on Google and if you surf the net, you will find relevant articles about Sandbox too.

    It is estimated that there are certain invisible filters which affect newly launched websites and naturally, if the selected niches are too competitive, even addition of a lot of strong links plus valuable contents to the websites will not push their ranks upwards very fast. It seems that you have been doing good and your Yahoo/Bing ranks already prove this matter and it's just the matter of time before your ranks on Google will improve, try to be patient in the meanwhile.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      It doesn't seem to me that Google is harsher. I got quiet a few pages ranked on page 1 using a non EMD.

      My recent experience, I just launced a new website:

      1 specific page was just a copyd sales letter, it ranks at page 6 in Google and page 1 in Yahoo. Only quality links pointing to it.

      On a couple of other pages I wrote unique content myself and used a diverse linkbuilding method as in (bookmarks/web2.0's/amr/high pr society, meta-index/blogcomments). These pages rank on page 1 / 2 in Google and nowhere to be seen in Yahoo.

      It's a small sample but it could have to do with the ratio of quality links vs bad links.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bambu
    It usually takes me longer to hit the first page of Bing/Yahoo, but the sites stick there far better than they do on Google.
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