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SERPs Not Really Moving

by sonic81
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Hi All,

I've been reading this forum for 6 months with interest, it's really a fantastic source of information so firstly thank you to everyone for publishing and sharing their ideas.

I've just started my IM venture 2 months ago, registered a domain at the start of Dec (it's in the real estate niche) published about 4 pages of quality content handwritten articles (each article targetting a particular keyword).

The keywords aren't too popular (4400 broad searches a month, 91 phrase and 41 exact matches) I"m just trying to see if I can rank for them so I see some progress on my learning...

I've spun the articles and submitted 4 spun articles to traffic kaboom which is generating around 4 backlinks a day to each article and also a seperate article linking to my main page on the domain. I.e. the backlinks are being generated with to mydomaindotcom mydomaindotcom/post1 mydomaindotcom/post2 etc. The anchortext for each link is also spun to make it appear more natural i.e. from property to real estate to, apartment etc in the anchor text.

In the first few weeks I noticed a movement up in the SERPs but in the past 2 weeks I've pretty much noticed it static staying at rank 23 for one keyword and rank 12 for another keyword and not hitting the first page.

I've done one ezine articles submission and probably about 20 social bookmarks. From all the reading I've done this should be enough to eventually get to page 1 on non competitive keywords... Am I doing something wrong? Any thoughts / help would be much appreciated...

Thank in advance!
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  • Profile picture of the author GeraldNitram
    I think you should search for some threads here about what has happened with Ezine Articles. I think you'll find your answer there. Teaser: No Follow links. About the spinning: I really don't recommend doing it that much because it can still be detected as duplicate.

    Here's what I think about your site not moving up: It could also mean that your competition is also working to be on the top of the SERPs OR remain on the top page of the SERPs. You can try seeing what kind of efforts they're doing in terms of getting their links around.
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    • Profile picture of the author sonic81
      Originally Posted by GeraldNitram View Post

      I think you should search for some threads here about what has happened with Ezine Articles. I think you'll find your answer there. Teaser: No Follow links. About the spinning: I really don't recommend doing it that much because it can still be detected as duplicate.

      Here's what I think about your site not moving up: It could also mean that your competition is also working to be on the top of the SERPs OR remain on the top page of the SERPs. You can try seeing what kind of efforts they're doing in terms of getting their links around.
      Hi thanks for your reply. EZine articles I'm aware the body of the text has no follow links however the author text has dofollow links right? My articles are 80% unique and following traffic kaboom's instructions and similar to other blog networks from the reading i've done this appears that it's enough to avoid duplicate detection.

      i don't think my competition is doing any seo work, given i've picked very non competitive phrases as an exercise to see if i can rank on page 1...
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  • Profile picture of the author IMhelper
    Try to build contextual backlinks from good source. This should increase your site SERP.
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    • Profile picture of the author sonic81
      Originally Posted by IMhelper View Post

      Try to build contextual backlinks from good source. This should increase your site SERP.
      thanks for your reply.

      I'm using traffic kaboom and submitting to only blogs in the real estate space so it IS backlinks from a contextual source...
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      • Profile picture of the author supershoesclub
        Originally Posted by sonic81 View Post

        thanks for your reply.

        I'm using traffic kaboom and submitting to only blogs in the real estate space so it IS backlinks from a contextual source...
        Only quality backlinks will be helpful to improve SERP.even though you use traffic kaboom to submit the articles to the niche blogs.But not all blogs are in high pr value.and google don't give any value to the duplicated articles by spinning.I hope you should submit unique article to article directories.
        Of course, if you want to improve your SERP,you should use the other seo strategies like forum posting,blog commenting,besides artcile marketing.Only natural and quality backlinks will help your site to rank higher.
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  • Profile picture of the author sandebdavid
    There could a number of reasons for that stagnation some of which have been hinted on in the above responses. You should also know link building alone may not get you that desired ranked, remember your competitors could be doing more. If you could update your content regularly for search engines to crawl regularly that too can better your SERPs.

    Importantly also try to analyze your competitors to see what they be doing better or what you can do better. They could be having more quality links than you do.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark72
    Maybe you need some more backlinks with your specific k/w in.

    You could try joining some more blog networks, as these seem to be the best source of backlinks these days.

    Other than that, you could look for a monthly subscription for home page high PR backlinks, but this could get expensive if you're not making any money yet.
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    • Profile picture of the author sonic81
      Originally Posted by Mark72 View Post

      Other than that, you could look for a monthly subscription for home page high PR backlinks, but this could get expensive if you're not making any money yet.
      Thanks for your comments. Do you have a suggested monthly subscription for a homepage with high PR backlinks? thx.
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  • Profile picture of the author dadamson
    Get some more unique backlinks on a consistent basis.

    Spinning content simply does not work very well these days and Google is very wise to these tactics.
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    • Profile picture of the author sonic81
      Originally Posted by dadamson View Post

      Get some more unique backlinks on a consistent basis.

      Spinning content simply does not work very well these days and Google is very wise to these tactics.
      Thanks, I'm trying to get more unique backlinks as well but scratching my head as to how since I'm new to this.. Do you have any suggestions should I email webmasters in the real estate niche for link exchange?
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  • Profile picture of the author Fixers
    Hey sonic, clearly what you are doing is not totally sufficient and if the term only gets <50 exacts a month I doubt that the competition are working at any pace at all (maybe if this was a more competitive term.

    My advice is to make some web 2.0's and send some links back to your site, this alone should get you to page one for a low comp KW.
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  • Profile picture of the author chillingbreeze
    Some questions you would ask yourself here..

    1- Are you building enough links? And if yes, how many of them are being actually indexed? Try checking your site at opensiteexplorer.org
    2- Are you building links from different and combined methods? Try like blogs, web 2.0, articles, press releases etc.
    3- Are you having some kind of social media activity as well? Try this as well. It's influencing search...

    Cheers!
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    • Profile picture of the author sonic81
      Originally Posted by chillingbreeze View Post

      Some questions you would ask yourself here..

      1- Are you building enough links? And if yes, how many of them are being actually indexed? Try checking your site at opensiteexplorer.org
      2- Are you building links from different and combined methods? Try like blogs, web 2.0, articles, press releases etc.
      3- Are you having some kind of social media activity as well? Try this as well. It's influencing search...

      Cheers!
      Thanks I'm using majesticseo and I see pretty much most of them are indexed, I've got around 60 backlinks at the moment. I'll check out opensiteexplorer.org

      I'm just using social bookmarking manually and traffic kaboom atm... i'm not closed to other methods i'm just wondering if they are effective, i'm trying to keep to one method i.e. blog + social networks to see if i can just rank using them. the issue i have with using other techniques is if my serps jump i can't quantitatively work out which method helped it the most.

      incidentally does the domain age matter? it's onyl been registered for 2 months i see some old posts saying new domains are hard to rank...
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  • Profile picture of the author AS2012
    Also consider your on-page seo. You will want to make sure that your keyword density is good as well. There are lots of on page seo checklists you can use to ensure on page seo is good. If you are using wordpress try a plugin like seopressor -it essentially checks your on page factors and scores them for you. If you tighten up the on page factors you should see movement in the SERPS again. Good luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author sonic81
      Originally Posted by AS2012 View Post

      Also consider your on-page seo. You will want to make sure that your keyword density is good as well. There are lots of on page seo checklists you can use to ensure on page seo is good. If you are using wordpress try a plugin like seopressor -it essentially checks your on page factors and scores them for you. If you tighten up the on page factors you should see movement in the SERPS again. Good luck.
      thank you. i'm using yoast wordpress seo plugin and most on page seo factors are checked. ive just done the basics.

      keyword in title
      keyword in h1 tag
      keyword density between 1-2%
      image with my keyword in it.
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  • Profile picture of the author protectyoursales
    Here's my advice:

    1. Just keep going, it takes time but it will happen, if you follow the rest of these steps =)

    2. Publish more content on your own domain. This isn't 2009 anymore, Google doesn't rank four page micro sites the way that it used to. My suggestion would be to take a week, right up 10 to 12 articles, and scheduled them out on your blog to publish two or three per week from now through the next month or so.

    3. You CAN keep going with traffic kaboom, but honestly I don't know that I would. even though I don't have experience with that particular service, from what I have read there are better options out there, such as article ranks, authority link network and even UAW. And of course, you can do very well for yourself without ANY link building service or article spinning of any kind, although I'm not going to tell you that you're misguided for doing it like some might in this forum...It just depends what you're doing with it.

    anyways, I guess really what it comes down to it those three steps are really all you need… Just keep going! Publish more content on your website, publish more links pointing to your website, and drive more traffic all-around. Once it starts snowballing it won't stop; you just have to keep rolling it until it gets there.
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    • Profile picture of the author sonic81
      Originally Posted by protectyoursales View Post

      Here's my advice:

      1. Just keep going, it takes time but it will happen, if you follow the rest of these steps =)

      2. Publish more content on your own domain. This isn't 2009 anymore, Google doesn't rank four page micro sites the way that it used to. My suggestion would be to take a week, right up 10 to 12 articles, and scheduled them out on your blog to publish two or three per week from now through the next month or so.

      3. You CAN keep going with traffic kaboom, but honestly I don't know that I would. even though I don't have experience with that particular service, from what I have read there are better options out there, such as article ranks, authority link network and even UAW. And of course, you can do very well for yourself without ANY link building service or article spinning of any kind, although I'm not going to tell you that you're misguided for doing it like some might in this forum...It just depends what you're doing with it.

      anyways, I guess really what it comes down to it those three steps are really all you need... Just keep going! Publish more content on your website, publish more links pointing to your website, and drive more traffic all-around. Once it starts snowballing it won't stop; you just have to keep rolling it until it gets there.

      thanks good tips. just need to keep motivated to not give up!
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  • Profile picture of the author IJR112
    I've noticed that updating my content more regularly seems to help with SERP. You get more indexed pages and google gives you more credit for adding value by updating with fresh content.
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  • Profile picture of the author TBInternetMarketing
    Originally Posted by sonic81 View Post

    In the first few weeks I noticed a movement up in the SERPs but in the past 2 weeks I've pretty much noticed it static staying at rank 23 for one keyword and rank 12 for another keyword and not hitting the first page.
    It's still very early days. Just keep building backlinks and you will see it keep moving up the ranks.
    Also don't be surprised if it moves around a bit. This is common with new sites

    For me, its all about getting high quality backlinks to your site. Quality always beats quantity.
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