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Unread 28th February 2012, 09:31 AM   #1
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Default Google's "link evaluation" update

This was the quote from Google's latest blog post:

Link evaluation. We often use characteristics of links to help us figure out the topic of a linked page. We have changed the way in which we evaluate links; in particular, we are turning off a method of link analysis that we used for several years. We often rearchitect or turn off parts of our scoring in order to keep our system maintainable, clean and understandable.

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Unread 28th February 2012, 09:34 AM   #2
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They've changed something. Right now it's pretty unclear what they've changed, though some people are speculating that they're moving away from focusing on anchor text or that they've devalued PR, but the truth is nobody knows.
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Its as clear as mud and thats the way they want it to be so anyone claiming to know what it means is blowing smoke. The only thing is as of right now it doesn't look to be any huge change or the search results would be dramatically different.

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Like always Matt Cutts isn't clear on what he said but that's his job right, if he was people would right away start figuring a way to still "game" the algorithm. What I think is that anchor will eventually be less relevant just like meta description was devaluated ages ago because it can be easily tricked. My best bet is that day after day Google gets better at analyzing the context of each backlinks and will eventually give more weight to that factor instead. I don't think that PR will be much affected as it's still the way google give weight to each pages, but I'm pretty sure anchor text WILL get devaluated sooner or later. Why does Cutt never tell clearly what Google want? Because we all knows that we should focus on quality backlinks and provide valuable content and the only thing giving clear factor would do is really tell blackhatters/bad SEOs how to trick google's algorithm, period.

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That Google quote could mean anything.

It doesn't necessarily mean they are talking about anchor-text (which I'm sure their not).

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We often use characteristics of links to help us figure out the topic of a linked page.
Google keeps all their comments vague so everyone is left scratching their heads wondering WTH are they talking about.



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Hopefully it's that they stopped considering rel nofollow.

People completely misinterpreted its intent and now sites are putting condoms on ANY link leaving their site thinking that will help their own rankings.
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First of all its not affecting anchor text or PR. Those 2 factors are about 90% of the algorithm. Its probably something like when a link is in bold face or italics not mattering anymore. Anything else would cause major shifts in the SERPs like we've never seen. Anchor text is the heart and sole of Google. Google will live and die by it.

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Could be more about link relevance. Is the title or article title relevant to the anchor text? LSI words in the article.
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It's almost as if you're better off not even reading or listening to anything from the Google disinformation campaign.

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First of all its not affecting anchor text or PR. Those 2 factors are about 90% of the algorithm. Its probably something like when a link is in bold face or italics not mattering anymore. Anything else would cause major shifts in the SERPs like we've never seen. Anchor text is the heart and sole of Google. Google will live and die by it.
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Don't confuse your opinions with facts.
I'm not. Most of Google's algorithm is based on page rank and anchor text. Those are facts. Everyone of my pages rank on those factors virtually alone. I have a page ranking for a car insurance term when the site is about debt settlement because I accidentally had a bot build the wrong links to the page a while back. Google makes tweaks here and there to the algo but since the beginning it has been hugely dependent on anchor text and PR link juice flow and that hasn't changed.

If you really believe that Google has stopped using either of those as a ranking factor well then let me get your email because I could sell you a lot of other garbage as well.

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Its as clear as mud and thats the way they want it to be so anyone claiming to know what it means is blowing smoke. The only thing is as of right now it doesn't look to be any huge change or the search results would be dramatically different.
Most of the "updates" effect very few real webmasters in the
real world.

One thing I did notice was the gems that talk about "freshness."
Improvements on freshness.

Haven't some of us been saying that for a long time? That the
internet is dynamic, not static, so of course you are going to
drop and rise naturally? No penalties, really. Just fresh blood
coming in and out. No reason to panic. Some pages need
freshening, some don't.

Some need more links, some pages can just go on.

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It's almost as if you're better off not even reading or listening to anything from the Google disinformation campaign.
I would respectfully say that nothing could be further from the truth.
Those that read, take it in context (which always seems to get lost)
will be better off. That is, if one is trying for google.

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That Google quote could mean anything.

It doesn't necessarily mean they are talking about anchor-text (which I'm sure their not).
Google keeps all their comments vague so everyone is left scratching their heads wondering WTH are they talking about.
Ahhh! So you extrapolate that they are NOT talking about anchor text!
So there are at least some clues as to what they are referring too. And
what they really are saying would not be totally lost to some of us.

IMHO, they are continuing a devaluing of certain links, ones that I have
mentioned many times before. Nofollow has not worked. In fact, it's
created more of a problem.

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Ahhh! So you extrapolate that they are NOT talking about anchor text!
So there are at least some clues as to what they are referring too. And
what they really are saying would not be totally lost to some of us.

IMHO, they are continuing a devaluing of certain links, ones that I have
mentioned many times before. Nofollow has not worked. In fact, it's
created more of a problem.

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Paul are you saying you think they are now passing juice through nofollow? That would be a huge change. I personally think the change is less significant, like I stated something like bolded links not affecting the value sorta thing. I wouldn't be surprised if they did do away with nofollow as someone links these days come from social media sites like twitter ect… which all are nofollow.

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Hopefully it's that they stopped considering rel nofollow.

People completely misinterpreted its intent and now sites are putting condoms on ANY link leaving their site thinking that will help their own rankings.
It's probably something lame, like the title-tag in a link (lol).



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I personally think it affects the likes of keywords in bold or italics or even alt tags.
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I think google will change tactics regular, keeping everyone on their toes. One thing for sure is they will not stay with one method. If they don't change then the scammer and spammers will make tools to beat them. So google will have to make constant changes, this is the only sure thing.

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It's almost as if you're better off not even reading or listening to anything from the Google disinformation campaign.
+1 They remind me of something....the American government?
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Type in "search engine" in Google, Google is #4 and its them making the rules.

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Can't wait for next weeks "aleluias" and "wtf's" from these recent "changes"....

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I'm not. Most of Google's algorithm is based on page rank and anchor text. Those are facts. Everyone of my pages rank on those factors virtually alone. I have a page ranking for a car insurance term when the site is about debt settlement because I accidentally had a bot build the wrong links to the page a while back. Google makes tweaks here and there to the algo but since the beginning it has been hugely dependent on anchor text and PR link juice flow and that hasn't changed.

If you really believe that Google has stopped using either of those as a ranking factor well then let me get your email because I could sell you a lot of other garbage as well.
My two sites which were linked to High PR pages with relevant anchor texts has been dropped from first top 10 pages.
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My two sites which were linked to High PR pages with relevant anchor texts has been dropped from first top 10 pages.
Yea thats because of the Panda update not because all of a sudden anchor text and PR went out the window. I still have 35 sites with 100's of keywords ranking on the first page due to anchor text on high PR site links. Your 2 sites were caught just like 5 of mine were in the Panda filter run from sat-mon.

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Did anyone experience any drops or changes lately? I have a client whose #1 site dropped of to page 2. We think it might be due to the new changes. That drop happened about a week ago.
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has anyone noticed a big increase in the amount of local results appearing at the top of the serps recently?
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has anyone noticed a big increase in the amount of local results appearing at the top of the serps recently?
Yep, this was due to a change that Google rolled out over the weekend. They've also slightly tweaked how they rank local business websites.
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Generally these changes are hard to decipher. It's best to just keep doing what always works. High quality, contextual links.

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There is not enough information in that sentence to determine anything. But it is interesting.

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I think there is more or less effect on SEO work. Some websites may get high pr but some not.

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I don't know whatever Google is doing but the impact that it's leaving on my sites is very clear. Two of my niche sites Page Rank has decreased but Ranking is still same or even improved for one site. Just 3 days back, one of my site was on #5, yesterday it was #2, today morning it was #1 and now evening again on #5. I am not placing backlinks to it from more than 3 weeks now, that's why I can say that it's not Google Dance, something different.

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