Message from ALN Private Blog Network

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Hi,

In the last few days blog network has been hit hard by google, so does ALN, we have 22% de-index rate this month which is quite high, normally sites in ALN only got 5-10% de-index rate every month.

To prevent further de-indexation and to keep ALN network strong, we have decided to:

- change the number of distribution per article to 10 (possibly even lower it to just 5), this will help to lower the number of post per day in your ALN blogs, making it less likely to be de-indexed

- you can only submit the same article maximum 5 times now, in ALN 2.0 we will be adding some duplicate content checker feature which will address this issue

- possible addition of grammar and spelling checker in ALN 2.0, so no more garbage spun content will get posted

- better articles moderation in ALN 2.0

With these changes applied, we are pretty sure that ALN can get back stronger, our job is to make this network stay strong as long as possible so you can gain maximum results by using it.

Best Regards,
Maulana T
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  • Profile picture of the author AskJon
    Hey cssitkt,

    did you have any questions regarding this email? Anything we can help you with?
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    • Profile picture of the author options
      I just received the same email, im not a user just on there list.

      I wish BMR would come clean
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      • Profile picture of the author cssitkt
        I just find it hard to believe other Blog Networks when they say they have not been effected at all.

        I'm sure Maulana will produce an ALN 2.0 that is less prone to de-indexing but If this pattern continues, Google will respond by upgrading their algo and personally I would not want links to my site on a blog page that gets deindexed now or in the future; we already know that Google assumes you are guilty merely by association.
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        • Profile picture of the author options
          Originally Posted by cssitkt View Post

          I just find it hard to believe other Blog Networks when they say they have not been effected at all.

          I'm sure Maulana will produce an ALN 2.0 that is less prone to de-indexing but If this pattern continues, Google will respond by upgrading their algo and personally I would not want links to my site on a blog page that gets deindexed now or in the future; we already know that Google assumes you are guilty merely by association.
          Yep, at least they have done the decent thing and let there members know whats happening. COME ON BMR

          I will never use a blog network again.
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        • Profile picture of the author AskJon
          Originally Posted by cssitkt View Post

          I just find it hard to believe other Blog Networks when they say they have not been effected at all.

          I'm sure Maulana will produce an ALN 2.0 that is less prone to de-indexing but If this pattern continues, Google will respond by upgrading their algo and personally I would not want links to my site on a blog page that gets deindexed now or in the future; we already know that Google assumes you are guilty merely by association.
          Yeh ok I understand a bit more where you're going. Deindexed backlinks aren't good for sure, but if you are direct linking ALN links to your main website you should change your strategy now (trust me on this one). Personally I would link ALN to properties I control such as web 2.0. What's happenning on "public" blog networks could of course been predicted, just like any type of large scale links (think profile links) in the past. When a popular service comes up, it's usually just a matter of time until Google find a way to "penalize" them (even though I wouldn't say penalize, but more "not care about them anymore).

          PM me if you need more info on this, but the point is not to "get scared and stay away from them", but really just to be smart and use them properly
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by options View Post

        I just received the same email, im not a user just on there list.

        I wish BMR would come clean
        Agreed. after confirming that several large networks have been hit its extremely unlikely that BMR got off scotch free and I'd bet it had some part to play in closing the door to new members. the coincidence of timing is just too telling.

        unfortunately for ALN those moves do little to protect the network. As long as pages on their network are filled with different writers on different subject all with anchor text anyone can figure out what is going on.
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        • Profile picture of the author options
          Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

          Agreed. after confirming that several large networks have been hit its extremely unlikely that BMR got off scotch free and I'd bet it had some part to play in closing the door to new members. the coincidence of timing is just too telling.

          unfortunately for ALN those moves do little to protect the network. As long as pages on their network are filled with different writers on different subject all with anchor text anyone can figure out what is going on.
          Agree Mike, even a little sniff could be enough. Whats your view on SEO for 2012?
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          • Profile picture of the author AskJon
            Originally Posted by options View Post

            Agree Mike, even a little sniff could be enough. Whats your view on SEO for 2012?
            IMO quality + diversity is what you need in SEO if you don't want to get penalized and loose your ranking in a matter of months.

            After you experiment and try to "game" Google for months you'll realize that you're better investing (your time/outsourcers time) in quality backlinks. Of course, you can always complement with less quality backlinks, but I'd only use that on my 2nd tier backlinks. For example, blog comments/article directories pointing to web 2.0 with a good anchor diversity.
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      • Profile picture of the author Cataclysm1987
        Originally Posted by options View Post


        I wish BMR would come clean
        Totally. That and SEO Link Monster and a few others need to do so as well.
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        • Profile picture of the author cssitkt
          SEO Link Monster - that's one of the worst blog Networks out there in my opinion. Their inbuilt spinner turn anything into complete gibbirish in one click!.........a good one to use of you want to move a few competitors out of the way
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          • Profile picture of the author cc422
            I agree - stay away from Seo Link M - I have found its not worth it.
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          • Profile picture of the author Cataclysm1987
            Originally Posted by cssitkt View Post

            SEO Link Monster - that's one of the worst blog Networks out there in my opinion. Their inbuilt spinner turn anything into complete gibbirish in one click!.........a good one to use of you want to move a few competitors out of the way
            Yep!

            Amazing how gurus in SEO totally ruin SEO, especially when it's grey hat.
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            • Profile picture of the author MarQueteer
              The sky isn't falling and blog networks like ALN may be hit a little more in the future, but I highly doubt Google will de-value bloglinks, simply because they can't really detect spun content effectively as long as it isn't total crap that reads like markov generated.

              When looking at my own sites in ALN, most of the domains killed by Google last week were from the first batch I added, they had accumulated 1500-3000 posts. They were all well customized, different free and paid themes, custom sidebars, no blogroll, different hosts and IPs.

              But let's get real: It doesn't take rocket science or a really clever algorithm to detect a blog that has thousands of non-related posts with 1-3 external links each. The longer a site is in the network, the more posts it gets, the more obvious it becomes, no matter how good the spinning or content is.

              That's why people who added sites to other networks as well suffered most: The faster the blog grows, the higher the number of posts, the higher the risk of getting the short end of the stick handed by Google quickly.

              In my opinion, it is almost inevitable that this kind of site gets de-indexed, the lifetime is always more or less limited. That's not bad, expired domains are like $10-20 for a PR2. De-indexing is part of the game and the value you get from a network like ALN is still well worth those few bucks in exchange for great rankings.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
    Yea those changes won't help much. That is all.
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    • Profile picture of the author cssitkt
      I respect Maulana for being open - at least members know what's going on and can make their own choices.

      I don't beleive that BMR, one of the biggest Private Blog Networks, were uneffected and is it just conciedence that this coincides with BMR closing to new members?

      BMR's official line is they are closed to new members because their network isn't bing enough to service the current membership numbers. It could be concidence but I doubt it quite frankly.
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      • Profile picture of the author Bryan V
        Originally Posted by cssitkt View Post

        BMR's official line is they are closed to new members because their network isn't bing enough to service the current membership numbers. It could be concidence but I doubt it quite frankly.
        It could just be a sneaky way of saying the same thing.

        If a ton of sites are getting deindexed, it does mean the network's not big enough for current members.

        But who knows.
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  • Profile picture of the author mosthost
    Mass deindexing is just one more way Google can put 'select' websites at the top. Come on, certainly everyone can see that bias plays a big role in Google's picks these days.

    I think it all started when Vitaly Borker (DecorMyEyes) made their whole algo look bad. Now they just want enterprise partners in their SERPS.
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  • Profile picture of the author outwest
    IMO this is good news for sites that DONT use these networks, they will go up in the serps
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    • Profile picture of the author Cataclysm1987
      Originally Posted by outwest View Post

      IMO this is good news for sites that DONT use these networks, they will go up in the serps
      Probably not. They will probably just sit on page 2 or 3 right next to the people who used bad networks.
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  • Profile picture of the author cssitkt
    What i find astonishing is that ALN reveal it's normal for 5-10% of there blogs to be de-indexed each month. I'm guessing it's similar for many other PBN's; personally i don't want links to my site on any deindexed blog. At the very least you'll have to buy more links to maintain rankings and at the worst your'e associated with foul play.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
      Originally Posted by cssitkt View Post

      What i find astonishing is that ALN reveal it's normal for 5-10% of there blogs to be de-indexed each month. I'm guessing it's similar for many other PBN's; personally i don't want links to my site on any deindexed blog. At the very least you'll have to buy more links to maintain rankings and at the worst your'e associated with foul play.
      Private networks don't really lose blogs... ALN isn't private IMO.

      I haven't lost a single blog from my older network (built 3 PR/toolbar updates ago). All posts are still indexed, no problems at all. It's only 30 blogs though.

      ALN, FBL and all the other networks are a huge risk. It looks like link loss causes pretty severe penalties, even if your rankings were achieved through other methods before blasting.
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      • Profile picture of the author cssitkt
        I totally agree - Private Blog Networks that are actually private instead of advertising with massive banners and posting any old mixed niche spun content are not really private or safe.

        What's needed is Private Blog Networks that appear very natural and are actually private with no spun content. There's now a huge gap in the market for this type of service. I spent on average $2000 a month on SEO last year and i'd happily pay for quality.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adam James
    If I was using ALN I would be getting out of that real fast and finding another method.
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    • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
      Originally Posted by Adam James View Post

      If I was using ALN I would be getting out of that real fast and finding another method.
      :rolleyes:

      If I was trashing a service in a public forum, while my siglink promotes a competitor, I would be worried about getting banned.
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  • Profile picture of the author kafai
    i hope ALN will just support Spintax article with minimal 75% unique for submit article.
    and do not worry about grammar... may be you already know that Google not too care about grammar and just more care about unique content
    ... please add "add picture from URL" feature on submit article, so every article posting will always have a picture, not just youtube video. but about max 3 links on every article posting is OK.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
      Banned
      Better article moderation and at the same time they suggest to use the auto spin feature from thebestspinner :rolleyes:
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