SEO Company I work for is scrambling for a BMR alternative

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Everyone here at work is freaking out about BMR getting deindexed.

We used BMR for virtually ALL of our SEO clients, not JUST BMR, but it was a huge part of our strategy.

A few of the managers are discussing other blog network alternatives, but if it happened to BMR then why not the next one?

I wonder how this will pan out over the next 2-3 weeks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    Originally Posted by 36burrows View Post

    A few of the managers are discussing other blog network alternatives, but if it happened to BMR then why not the next one?

    I wonder how this will pan out over the next 2-3 weeks.
    Its happened to a ton load more rental networks than BMR. ALN has been targeted as well. High PR society wisely closed down their new registrations and most of the networks are going underground. Simply picking another public rental network is just asking for the same issues again.
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  • Profile picture of the author mosthost
    All that money the clients paid...
    All that time 'writing articles'.....

    Gone, gone, gone. And yet 'the managers' are wondering which network to use next?
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    • Profile picture of the author 36burrows
      Originally Posted by mosthost View Post

      All that money the clients paid...
      All that time 'writing articles'.....

      Gone, gone, gone. And yet 'the managers' are wondering which network to use next?
      Yep, my thoughts exactly
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    • Originally Posted by mosthost View Post

      All that money the clients paid...
      All that time 'writing articles'.....

      Gone, gone, gone. And yet 'the managers' are wondering which network to use next?
      Not that I disagree with the gist of what you're saying, but there was ranking quality for a period of time before they fell. I don't think it's all "gone" as much as it is "expired". That's really the way it works with SEO, eventually what you're doing will expire and you'll need a new solution. The smart ones start doing it ahead of time.
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        If you find one, don't go around telling everyone about it!
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      • Profile picture of the author 36burrows
        Originally Posted by AffordableMarketingLists View Post

        Not that I disagree with the gist of what you're saying, but there was ranking quality for a period of time before they fell. I don't think it's all "gone" as much as it is "expired". That's really the way it works with SEO, eventually what you're doing will expire and you'll need a new solution. The smart ones start doing it ahead of time.
        Deindexed = gone
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    • Profile picture of the author LotsofQuestions
      Originally Posted by mosthost View Post

      All that money the clients paid...
      All that time 'writing articles'.....

      Gone, gone, gone. And yet 'the managers' are wondering which network to use next?
      Networks are gone, my 6,000 sites got deindexed, and it was 100% private. It's soon to happen to them all.
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      • Profile picture of the author seoallstar
        6000 sites deindexed huh? why you think it is? is any blog safe? what are the flags? why don't all blogs become deindexed ?
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      • Profile picture of the author mosthost
        Originally Posted by LotsofQuestions View Post

        Networks are gone, my 6,000 sites got deindexed, and it was 100% private. It's soon to happen to them all.
        Whoa. Google has declared WAR on websites.

        The ones they call 'low-quality websites' are now the 'insurgents' of this war and will be destroyed.

        The problem is, they're the only ones who get to decide to what quality is. They are judge jury and executioner.

        Personally, I would rather take my ball and go home than play with these bullies anymore They want me to buy Adwords. Screw that.

        I even got rid of Google Analytics and replaced with a very expensive B2B marketing automation suite to track traffic. It costs a lot more, but it's actually accurate.

        The differences in what they're reporting is significant. Google's 'free traffic' and 'free tool's are skewed and the only properties that are safe from Google's algo are the ones Google owns.

        This is all IMHO of course.
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        • Profile picture of the author mistermint
          Originally Posted by mosthost View Post

          Whoa. Google has declared WAR on websites.

          The ones they call 'low-quality websites' are now the 'insurgents' of this war and will be destroyed.

          The problem is, they're the only ones who get to decide to what quality is. They are judge jury and executioner.

          Personally, I would rather take my ball and go home than play with these bullies anymore They want me to buy Adwords. Screw that.

          I even got rid of Google Analytics and replaced with a very expensive B2B marketing automation suite to track traffic. It costs a lot more, but it's actually accurate.

          The differences in what they're reporting is significant. Google's 'free traffic' and 'free tool's are skewed and the only properties that are safe from Google's algo are the ones Google owns.

          This is all IMHO of course.
          It's always been the case with Google, just so many keep plugging away at them trying to get top rankings..

          I've seen a lot of my stuff get deindexed almost as soon as they hit page 1..

          I saw one of my sites with adsense on took $6 in an hour and when I checked my email they had suspended adds on the site..

          As one warrior put they are judge and jury..

          Everything associated with them is tracked by them for them and thier cash flow..

          It can't be right for one company to have such a monoply on search..for my bit I now use https://eu.ixquick.com/ for searches..

          Screw Google..:p
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Originally Posted by LotsofQuestions View Post

        Networks are gone, my 6,000 sites got deindexed, and it was 100% private. It's soon to happen to them all.
        I don't think selling links counts as 100% private.
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      • Profile picture of the author rodanglee
        Originally Posted by LotsofQuestions View Post

        Networks are gone, my 6,000 sites got deindexed, and it was 100% private. It's soon to happen to them all.
        It's quite odd that those 6,000 sites being deindexed isn't used for any link building outside of the organization, perhaps somebody in your group gets a little greedy and thought '99.9 percent private' is still private and nobody will know eh?
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
          Originally Posted by rodanglee View Post

          It's quite odd that those 6,000 sites being deindexed isn't used for any link building outside of the organization, perhaps somebody in your group gets a little greedy and thought '99.9 percent private' is still private and nobody will know eh?
          Seriously though which well built network grows to 6,000? I guarantee spun content was flung around on that network like nobodies business.
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  • Profile picture of the author dminorfmajor
    It sucks, to have another gem like BMR, you'll basically need to be personally plugged in with full-time IM veterans that would catch wind of these "underground" networks. Back to blog commenting and article writing...
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  • Profile picture of the author jessiepadgal
    Tell your company they need to get into guest blogging in the legit way.
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    • Profile picture of the author mosthost
      Originally Posted by articlesforim View Post

      Tell your company they need to get into guest blogging in the legit way.
      Now this is interesting. When you say 'guest blogging' in a 'legitimate way' you're referring to what, exactly?

      You mean where you find a 'real blog' and then pay or 'donate' an article to them? You know, an article with '3 fat in-context links' pointing back to the proverbial 'money site?'

      Oh year, that's a REAL LEGIT way of 'blogging'
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      • Profile picture of the author jessiepadgal
        Originally Posted by mosthost View Post

        Now this is interesting. When you say 'guest blogging' in a 'legitimate way' you're referring to what, exactly?

        You mean where you find a 'real blog' and then pay or 'donate' an article to them? You know, an article with '3 fat in-context links' pointing back to the proverbial 'money site?'

        Oh year, that's a REAL LEGIT way of 'blogging'
        I said guest blogging, not just blogging.

        And contextual links are not a requirement. My guest blog campaigns rely on one bio link, and that's it.

        That's plenty legit.

        Of course, I am talking about providing quality content that their audience would want. Again, legit: the blog owner won't publish it if it is just spam.
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      • Profile picture of the author SEOChemist
        Originally Posted by mosthost View Post

        Now this is interesting. When you say 'guest blogging' in a 'legitimate way' you're referring to what, exactly?

        You mean where you find a 'real blog' and then pay or 'donate' an article to them? You know, an article with '3 fat in-context links' pointing back to the proverbial 'money site?'

        Oh year, that's a REAL LEGIT way of 'blogging'
        Thats not legitimate guest blogging lol. Do Spam get Spam Results.
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  • Profile picture of the author bitriot
    Originally Posted by Chris Kent View Post

    Who knows, you might have a few lawsuits on your hands from disgruntled customers unhappy with your methods. :rolleyes:

    I actually went to an interview with a digital marketing agency (industry term for SEO specialists) not long ago and the guy revealed to me that he pays for links! Maybe I should report his company and client list to Google...seeing as he never gave me the job!
    Digital marketing agency is not an industry term for SEO specialist.

    I work at and have worked at huge "digital marketing agencies" like Razorfish, Band Digital, WhittmanHart, Avenue A and so on... and uhh what we do is build websites and craft strategy for our clients. That strategy may include SEO, but uhhh, it is certainly not our focus.
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    • Profile picture of the author warriorspirit786
      So what is the alternative?

      How do we now get high pr contextual backlinks?:confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
    lol?

    Don't you get it? Any technique is NOW considered "spam" by Google:

    Guest blogging: bad boy!
    Article syndication: bad boy!
    Link drop: bad boy!
    Small network: bad boy!
    Private sites: bad boy!
    and so on....

    Dudes, you really need to wake up and smell the coffee. Google is destroying the whole freakin industry so they can sell ADWORDS.

    Every technique you can think of to promote your site LEGALLY is now (or will be soon) considered SPAM by Google.

    Wake the **** up.
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    • Profile picture of the author mosthost
      Originally Posted by Fernando Veloso View Post

      lol?

      Don't you get it? Any technique is NOW considered "spam" by Google:

      Guest blogging: bad boy!
      Article syndication: bad boy!
      Link drop: bad boy!
      Small network: bad boy!
      Private sites: bad boy!
      and so on....

      Dudes, you really need to wake up and smell the coffee. Google is destroying the whole freakin industry so they can sell ADWORDS.

      Every technique you can think of to promote your site LEGALLY is now (or will be soon) considered SPAM by Google.

      Wake the **** up.
      The writing is ALL OVER the wall.
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    • Profile picture of the author Legit SEO
      Originally Posted by Fernando Veloso View Post

      lol?

      Don't you get it? Any technique is NOW considered "spam" by Google:

      Guest blogging: bad boy!
      Article syndication: bad boy!
      Link drop: bad boy!
      Small network: bad boy!
      Private sites: bad boy!
      and so on....

      Dudes, you really need to wake up and smell the coffee. Google is destroying the whole freakin industry so they can sell ADWORDS.

      Every technique you can think of to promote your site LEGALLY is now (or will be soon) considered SPAM by Google.

      Wake the **** up.

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      Originally Posted by Fernando Veloso View Post

      lol?

      Don't you get it? Any technique is NOW considered "spam" by Google:

      Guest blogging: bad boy!
      Article syndication: bad boy!
      Link drop: bad boy!
      Small network: bad boy!
      Private sites: bad boy!
      and so on....

      Dudes, you really need to wake up and smell the coffee. Google is destroying the whole freakin industry so they can sell ADWORDS.

      Every technique you can think of to promote your site LEGALLY is now (or will be soon) considered SPAM by Google.

      Wake the **** up.
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    • Profile picture of the author Hearn
      Originally Posted by Fernando Veloso View Post

      lol?

      Don't you get it? Any technique is NOW considered "spam" by Google:

      Guest blogging: bad boy!
      Article syndication: bad boy!
      Link drop: bad boy!
      Small network: bad boy!
      Private sites: bad boy!
      and so on....

      Dudes, you really need to wake up and smell the coffee. Google is destroying the whole freakin industry so they can sell ADWORDS.

      Every technique you can think of to promote your site LEGALLY is now (or will be soon) considered SPAM by Google.

      Wake the **** up.
      Waking up and do what?(after you smell the coffee)
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  • Profile picture of the author mmresources
    Did anyone listen to the Matt Cutts interview where he mentioned the penalties being introduced for 'over optimization'? I don't believe they are targeting the average user, but rather those who 'abuse' link building. Where they draw the line for abuse, however, is up for debate..... Listen to the interview, he discusses this within the first 10 minutes.
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  • Profile picture of the author IM Ash
    No offense, but you need to find a new job because most top tier SEO companies already own their own network and do not have to rely on a 3rd party provider.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by Eleva8 View Post

      No offense, but you need to find a new job because most top tier SEO companies already own their own network and do not have to rely on a 3rd party provider.
      I never got how companies involved in offering SEO were comfortable depending on some other service they don't control for almost all their linkbuilding.
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    • Profile picture of the author 36burrows
      Originally Posted by Eleva8 View Post

      No offense, but you need to find a new job because most top tier SEO companies already own their own network and do not have to rely on a 3rd party provider.
      You honestly don't really know what you're talking about.

      I've worked at multiple reputable companies, and ALL of them used BMR. Do we have our own network? Yes, but it's not like BMR's was.
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    • Profile picture of the author CyberAlien
      Originally Posted by Eleva8 View Post

      No offense, but you need to find a new job because most top tier SEO companies already own their own network and do not have to rely on a 3rd party provider.
      There are plenty of large companies who spread their customers across multiple networks instead of owning their own, plus they should never be depending just on their own network.
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    • Profile picture of the author IM Ash
      Originally Posted by Chris Kent View Post

      I call bull on this.

      First, how would you know?

      Second, this would require a huge investment in hundreds (maybe thousands) of sites and maintaining them - all for a few clients of their own.

      I simply don't believe this is true.
      The operative word been top tier. Not joe shmo down the road doing SEO for a handful of local clients!

      You guys obviously don't know much about the magnitude of some of the SEO companies out there and the resources they command.

      The fact that an SEO company has to scurry around looking for a BMR replacement says it all!

      I'm outta of this thread!
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      • Profile picture of the author CyberAlien
        Originally Posted by Eleva8 View Post

        You guys obviously don't know much about the magnitude of some of the SEO companies out there
        That's the type of thing you go post on DigitalPoint, not here
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        • Profile picture of the author IM Ash
          Originally Posted by Chase Watts View Post

          That's the type of thing you go post on DigitalPoint, not here
          Firstly, just to clear something up - I am not even a member of digitalpoint so don't make assumptions and secondly don't tell me what I can or cannot post on the forum.

          Let me educate you on a business concept known as "backward integration"... it is when a company buys up its suppliers to improve efficiency and to lower costs (there are also other benefits). An SEO company who evolves to the upper echelons engages in a form of "backward integration" where they create the supply themselves ie. build their own network! In this way they lower risks and have more control of the end-product which is sustained top rankings for their clients.

          Anyway all the best, I hope you make it to the top with your upcoming service!
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    • Profile picture of the author MarQueteer
      Originally Posted by Eleva8 View Post

      No offense, but you need to find a new job because most top tier SEO companies already own their own network and do not have to rely on a 3rd party provider.
      And those networks aren't safe from deindexing as well. I know two companies from the US with more than 20 employees that got their networks hit badly as well. It's not like this crusade focusses in public networks only.
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      • Profile picture of the author seoallstar
        Well, how is it that Google can tell a blog from a splog? I find that it certainly won't be easy for Google to do that with an algorithm.

        Even if they are manually reviewing blogs, how will they be able to tell real from fake when there are links to authority sites and posts with zero links on them all mixed in together?
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve25
      Originally Posted by Eleva8 View Post

      No offense, but you need to find a new job because most top tier SEO companies already own their own network and do not have to rely on a 3rd party provider.
      Great story on this.

      We interviewed loads of companies to outsource our seo to (we still haven't signed anyone yet), quite a few of them gave examples of clients who they had done a "good job for". Along with that, quite a few said they had private networks.

      I've recently been going over the companies again (trying to make a decision) and in every case the companies flagship clients have dropped as well. It seems as though their private networks have also been hit.
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      • Profile picture of the author IM Ash
        Originally Posted by Steve25 View Post

        Great story on this.

        We interviewed loads of companies to outsource our seo to (we still haven't signed anyone yet), quite a few of them gave examples of clients who they had done a "good job for". Along with that, quite a few said they had private networks.

        I've recently been going over the companies again (trying to make a decision) and in every case the companies flagship clients have dropped as well. It seems as though their private networks have also been hit.
        Google have definitely developed some sort of breakthrough technology to sniff out networks. But there are many networks still standing... how long they will last... only time will tell!

        You may want to consider taking your SEO in-house if it is financially viable. But sourcing the right skills may be a challenge.

        Things like building a network of feeder sites within your niche that are run like real sites linking to your main site as well as to other authority sites is an option. These sites act like affiliate type sites that can help SEO-wise and also generate leads and traffic at the same time. You can use these sites to target longer tail keywords and LSI keywords.

        Using aged domains (some with PR) as well as utilizing shared hosting across multiple hosts is non-negotiable when building these sites.

        Then building your own private network of sites with a mix of high PR and no PR using different platforms like wordpress, web 2.0's, joomla and even custom built sites to build up your feeder sites and main site should also be implemented.

        You can even periodically sell links/posts on these sites and accept guest posts to diversify the outbound links.

        Just a few ideas for you to consider
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      • Profile picture of the author RyanLB
        Originally Posted by Steve25 View Post

        Great story on this.

        We interviewed loads of companies to outsource our seo to (we still haven't signed anyone yet), quite a few of them gave examples of clients who they had done a "good job for". Along with that, quite a few said they had private networks.

        I've recently been going over the companies again (trying to make a decision) and in every case the companies flagship clients have dropped as well. It seems as though their private networks have also been hit.
        That's interesting. I would guess though that a lot of these companies didn't go to great lengths to hide these networks from Google. You'd be surprised how many of these companies know a lot less about SEO then they let on.
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  • Profile picture of the author warriorspirit786
    Blog networks will always be around.
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    • Profile picture of the author Nick Kringas
      Originally Posted by warriorspirit786 View Post

      Blog networks will always be around.
      But will probably cost ten times more when the dust settles.

      Shocking that this company we are talking about was mostly using one method. My God, talk about putting all your eggs in one basket..... just doesn't seem very smart.... and this is with clients' website?!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author mosthost
    I think we all realize that 'SEO companies' do what they need to survive, whatever that might be. I imagine they're responsible for 99.9999999997% of all blog posts being made right now.

    I mean, all kidding aside, who really BLOGS anymore? It's not 2006 anymore.

    Who 'direct links' to websites in modern times? Wouldn't the average person use Facebook to show their friend a cool link?

    That said, SEO companies love blogs. And they love paying! Or at least they used to, until the mass de-indexation.
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    • Profile picture of the author CyberAlien
      Originally Posted by mosthost View Post

      I mean, all kidding aside, who really BLOGS anymore? It's not 2006 anymore.
      Thousands of large companies... thousands of reporters... thousands of teenagers... thousands of students...

      Sure, it may have been more popular in 2006 but there are people finding out about blogging everyday or figuring out that they can do it by just signing up at Blogger or WordPress for free.
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      • Profile picture of the author mosthost
        Originally Posted by Chase Watts View Post

        Thousands of large companies... thousands of reporters... thousands of teenagers... thousands of students...

        Sure, it may have been more popular in 2006 but there are people finding out about blogging everyday or figuring out that they can do it by just signing up at Blogger or WordPress for free.
        I agree there are a small contingent of 'non-marketer' types blogging.

        That said, with the continued depressing economy, even many so-called 'amateur' bloggers have turned into promotion pushers.

        Hell, Twitter and Facebook are loaded with MLM messages from 'real life friends' etc. Everyone is trying to make a buck online and the pure-hearted hobbiest don't exist in the great numbers they once did.
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  • Profile picture of the author seoallstar
    Speaking of backwards integration, I find it hard to believe that these big companies with the pockets to beef up their own networks won't find a way to still farm it out. Granted, they can use it for their own SEO clients, but in order to really financing something of that size, you need to be leasing it out. Hosting is expensive, and Google is smart.

    Coops are the best seeming thing out there as these private network owners could just team up with other SEO company managers that they themselves are vetting their own clients to keep Google out. This seems the only viable strategy for the future.

    One particular site I have found already on this trend is SERP gold. They are capping membership at 100 and I suppose it isn't cheap, however running a network is not feasible for most such as myself. I applied, waiting to hear something back.
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    • Profile picture of the author IM Ash
      Originally Posted by seoallstar View Post

      Speaking of backwards integration, I find it hard to believe that these big companies with the pockets to beef up their own networks won't find a way to still farm it out. Granted, they can use it for their own SEO clients, but in order to really financing something of that size, you need to be leasing it out. Hosting is expensive, and Google is smart.
      It is impossible to own the entire supply but the idea is to have control of your most powerful backlinks

      Originally Posted by seoallstar View Post

      Coops are the best seeming thing out there as these private network owners could just team up with other SEO company managers that they themselves are vetting their own clients to keep Google out. This seems the only viable strategy for the future.
      Completely agree! But an issue that may arise is in the way each SEO company runs their network where one may feel the others network poses a risk to their clients and there is that other minor factor of power-hungry companies wanting complete control.
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  • Profile picture of the author RyanLB
    I would say that you should look at Linkvana and the other sources that are out there, but remember not to rely too heavily on these networks. If it is literally your only strategy then you really need to try and expand.
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  • Profile picture of the author RyanLB
    No blog network is safe. I would say that the best thing that you can do is to make sure that none of your sites share a template, all are on different c-class IPs, and you only use a small percentage of the sites for each linkbuilding campaign.

    It would also be best if you had smaller, seperate networks by niche, but things are getting pretty costly at that point.
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  • Profile picture of the author josephseeley
    You need something without a footprint, and with high quality blogs and submissions. There are guest posting networks you can use that allow you to choose where to submit, and the blog owners can choose to accept it or not. This means every blog in the network is unique, and tends to push quality a lot higher. At the same time, you don't have to go hunting everywhere on the internet to find someone who's willing to let you guest post. Best of both worlds.
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    • Profile picture of the author seoallstar
      joseph, yes the quality is key I agree, and I was thinking the same thing about the guest posting, but this only works if your in a legit and common niche otherwise no guest blogs will be there for you

      would be nice if aln would just hold their stuff up to higher standards and we would have a winner,

      with previous mass deindexing by google on aln, network saturation has to be throttled for the network to stay viable as manual reviews of link profiles do occur when people rank for crazy terms
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      • Profile picture of the author paulgl
        So, google cares about their searchers and paid customers?
        Go figure.

        You can't code a dang thing, but you can buy a domain, do
        wordpress, buy articles written by some knucklehead on fiverr,
        then buy a bunch of stupid links, then wonder why google
        someday doesn't like you?

        You don't make websites to offer valuable info to solve
        problems, arguments, or a service. You provide some crappy
        site slopped together to get an adsense click or sell some
        dumb-crap affiliate from CB.

        Maybe if you started a website on a topic you loved and actually
        knew about, nurtured it, took years to build up authority with
        knowledge from you written down to help searchers solve
        problems and get info, you might actually get somewhere.

        I have no sympathy for the following people:

        a) Do some sappy "research" on a high paying, low competition
        niche.
        b) Buy some EMD or close domain.
        c) install wordpress because you can't code
        to save your life. Have no idea what php is. Need a friggin
        plugin to do anything on wordpress cuz you're clueless or
        just lazy.
        d)Buy articles written by some dumb-hack on fiverr or some
        other stupid article service because your knowledge on
        the subject of your website is nonexistent. Or you have
        no passion or just plain stupid lazy.
        e) Think buying links on crummy pages, creating a billion
        forum profiles, spamming blogs, or paying some idiot on
        fiverr $4 for a Brazilian "quality" links.
        f) Throwing good money away on some latest, greatest
        SEO package from a bozo you don't know.
        e)Ending up with a website that is just a bunch of junk
        created to get an adsense click or sell some slummy
        CB product.
        g)getting de-indexed, dropped kicked, or whatever you
        call it.

        You people get what you deserve.

        Paul
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      • Profile picture of the author josephseeley
        Originally Posted by seoallstar View Post

        joseph, yes the quality is key I agree, and I was thinking the same thing about the guest posting, but this only works if your in a legit and common niche otherwise no guest blogs will be there for you

        would be nice if aln would just hold their stuff up to higher standards and we would have a winner,

        with previous mass deindexing by google on aln, network saturation has to be throttled for the network to stay viable as manual reviews of link profiles do occur when people rank for crazy terms
        If you want that type of link network, Link Authority might be worth looking into. They have rather strict moderation on submissions. Also there's diversity in the length of posts, number of links (2% have no links), and they utilize user submitted blogs as well as their own network.

        Postrunner is the guest posting network I'd suggest. Makes it pretty simple to find decent quality sites to post to. Though some niches are better represented than others. It will be a standalone product soon, right now it's part of TKA. Price for power users looks like it will be much higher than if you're grandfathered in.
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  • Profile picture of the author ProPowerSEO
    Originally Posted by 36burrows View Post

    Everyone here at work is freaking out about BMR getting deindexed.

    We used BMR for virtually ALL of our SEO clients, not JUST BMR, but it was a huge part of our strategy.

    A few of the managers are discussing other blog network alternatives, but if it happened to BMR then why not the next one?

    I wonder how this will pan out over the next 2-3 weeks.
    When you say a huge part, how much % are we talking?

    Probably the best advice we can give moving forward is to aim to start splitting your methods and never rely on one area too much to avoid scenarios like above. Do you have access to your customers webmaster tools? Any warning messages from Google? As an SEO company, I can understand your worry especially if all your clients are due for a pending de rank penalisation.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nick Kringas
    The only alternative to blog networks unfortunately is to use a dozen other methods/tools.
    If you/your company is not willing to do that because of time/money/expertise then find someone who knows what they are doing and outsource/resell it. It's the least you can do for your clients.
    If you're serious send me a pm and I will point you in the right direction.
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  • Profile picture of the author uoftenwinny
    what a good news to me. thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author quickcontent
    That is a classic example of putting all eggs in one basket. That's the worst thing to ever do. I guess its an expensive lesson but a lesson nonetheless. Definitely, others can learn from this...
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  • Profile picture of the author bamstk090
    Even ALN has been hit by google
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  • Profile picture of the author BigGameHunter
    Originally Posted by Chris Kent View Post

    Who knows, you might have a few lawsuits on your hands from disgruntled customers unhappy with your methods. :rolleyes:

    I actually went to an interview with a digital marketing agency (industry term for SEO specialists) not long ago and the guy revealed to me that he pays for links! Maybe I should report his company and client list to Google...seeing as he never gave me the job!
    Even though it appeared you MAY be joking about turning someone in to Google... that's not funny.

    Bad enough if one day your a friend and the next day your a witness!
    No excuse for being a... RAT!
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    • Profile picture of the author seoallstar
      Building up my own network seem really the best long term strategy, just need to post lets say 5 or so posts per feeder site, and then 301 redirect a aged domain at it, bam, instant juice and its all mine. Even a pr1 can be picked up at flippa for like a 100 bucks, that really that is all it takes to get ya started,

      Other than that, I might just go with the private network alternative
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Originally Posted by seoallstar View Post

        Building up my own network seem really the best long term strategy, just need to post lets say 5 or so posts per feeder site, and then 301 redirect a aged domain at it, bam, instant juice and its all mine. Even a pr1 can be picked up at flippa for like a 100 bucks, that really that is all it takes to get ya started,

        Other than that, I might just go with the private network alternative
        A PR 1 for $100? That is a ripoff if all you are buying it for is the PR.

        You can get PR 2's all day long on GoDaddy auctions for less than $30.
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
          Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

          A PR 1 for $100? That is a ripoff if all you are buying it for is the PR.

          You can get PR 2's all day long on GoDaddy auctions for less than $30.
          Mike aint lying. Thats a Capital R rip!! if you are buying for PR. You can get PR1s at godaddy closeouts for $5 plus registration fee but really theres not that much juice in a pr1. As a matter of fact if you are patient you can get PR3s which give nice kicks to most serps for way under a $100.
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  • Profile picture of the author vickss
    Why do you all just want to stuck BMR and other blog networks. The best way of link building is write great articles.post them on high PR article directories and keep on doing but remember good articles only becasue if articles have no values then they may not help you in getting backlinks. Blog commenting is also great idea but always leave relevant comments.Hope this help you all.This works for me..
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  • Profile picture of the author smithwhite
    Well, i looks like big SEO companies, who charge thousands of dollars from there customers spent some hundred dollars to get quality high PR backlinks.
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  • Profile picture of the author rodanglee
    The only way that blog networks and link building are going to stop is when Google drops PR completely.
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  • Profile picture of the author giseo
    Build your own network.
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  • Profile picture of the author TommyD07
    yea all blog networks are pretty much out of the question, would be foolish to look for another one.
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  • Profile picture of the author Strega
    I really don't think it's all that bad. In order to be successful at business you need to adapt this kind of event happens all the time in brick and mortar businesses. The trick is not what happens but how you react. You can't control the outcomes but you can control the effort you put in.

    Also I have a BMR replacement that I'm happy with, I just can't talk about it in public.
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