Does spun content still work for you? (Esp after the update)

by GGpaul
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Sup, so people say spun content doesn't work, and it does work.

Honestly, writing 400 words of unique content constantly is tiring (I'm sure you will suggest that I hire someone).

Do any of you guys still use spun content to create backlinks? Do you guys still see results?

Or should I just suck it up, and just write them on my own. Obviously it's going to take a lot of time, and time is money.

Please let me know, thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author sovereignn
    I use it to create backlinks yes.

    Does it still work? Yes

    I also put spun content on my website during the ranking process. This works as well
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    • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
      Originally Posted by sovereignn View Post

      I use it to create backlinks yes.

      Does it still work? Yes

      I also put spun content on my website during the ranking process. This works as well
      Interesting. I don't think I'd put spun content on my websites at all. Just cause I really want to give value to the customers. But that's just me.
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  • Profile picture of the author RayW
    It doesn't matter if it's spun. As long as spelling and grammar is good and it passes copyscape, it's just as good as any piece of unique content.
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  • Profile picture of the author TeamBringIt
    It really depends on how well the content is spun. Some are ultra horrible and cannot be read. Taking time, to properly spinning content is well worth it.
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  • Profile picture of the author radivoj
    Your question sound like is Google read content like a human..Let me explain, Google is a complex robot software system NOT a human and it will never be able to read content and understand exactly meaning of sentence as the human, spinning words into sentences are simply the combinations of words that people still use every day typing into search engine to find what they looking for,the only way Google can detect spin content if contain bad grammar that is difficult to read or makes little sense, also if you don't know Google doesn't speak English either,Google is pretty good at parsing out the most important words used on a page as well very good at knowing what words are related to other words based on the frequency which they appear in the same page, at the end if you read article which was spun but very good spun that looks like as original article,if a human being can't know that article was produced with the help of a content spinner, neither can Google...
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    • Profile picture of the author jinx1221
      Originally Posted by radivoj View Post

      if a human being can't know that article was produced with the help of a content spinner, neither can Google...
      To add to that, really, even if YOU can tell, but still have to sort of think about it, then a computer definitely cant tell. A few tips though:

      Spin well, on all paragraph, sentence, and word levels

      Test your spin, making sure it is gramatically correct and not garbage

      Don't use obscure words that nobody uses, or has used since the renaissance.. sometimes too many synonyms are not a good thing.

      Gotta trot back to occupation now! :p
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  • Profile picture of the author AnythingMarketing
    Yes it works, yes I use it, no I don't really like to.
    Necessary evil.

    Don't use it on my own sites no.
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  • Profile picture of the author gamemerlin
    Hey I need some help with this too. I am utilizing essentially garbage spin that is hard to read by human. It actually works. But I am noticing that the top sites in google ranking are
    #1 - hand written articles, probably very expensive
    #2 - spun articles that are hard to read, but not gibberish they make sense and seem to be grammatically correct

    Can someone confirm from experience if grammar is a factor. The consensus seems to be yes.
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    • Profile picture of the author RealEcon
      Originally Posted by gamemerlin View Post

      Hey I need some help with this too. I am utilizing essentially garbage spin that is hard to read by human. It actually works. But I am noticing that the top sites in google ranking are
      #1 - hand written articles, probably very expensive
      #2 - spun articles that are hard to read, but not gibberish they make sense and seem to be grammatically correct

      Can someone confirm from experience if grammar is a factor. The consensus seems to be yes.
      If Microsoft Word can see your grammar mistakes, Im pretty sure Google can too at this point in time.:rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author Hossain
    Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

    Sup, so people say spun content doesn't work, and it does work.

    Honestly, writing 400 words of unique content constantly is tiring (I'm sure you will suggest that I hire someone).

    Do any of you guys still use spun content to create backlinks? Do you guys still see results?

    Or should I just suck it up, and just write them on my own. Obviously it's going to take a lot of time, and time is money.

    Please let me know, thanks.

    First of all I have two questions to you..

    1) Who said "spun content doesn't work"?
    2) What do you mean by WORK?

    Well spun articles are working. I mean these can be indexed by google easily.

    If you are meaning indexing and ranking by the word "WORK" then sure, as said above spun articles can be indexed by google and they still good to rank keywords.
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  • Profile picture of the author patco
    Spun articles are still working, but it would be better to write unique content. Also, each article which contain a link back is a "vote" for your website, so it will help you get a better SERP for your keyword. So, you can continue using it, but do NOT overuse it and submit more than 30 spun articles per month (the content is almost duplicated...)
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  • Profile picture of the author n_touch
    If you are going to use spun content, I would not put it on your site at all. The other thing that you need to keep in mind when you are using spun content is that if it does not read well, then you may lose out on a potential client, customer, shopper, when they read the article and are not able to decipher what they are reading. I Highly suggest that you take the time to hand spin and not just hit the spin button like so many others do.
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  • Profile picture of the author UMS
    I've been wary of using spun content since the last Panda update. Agreed that it does depend on the quality and level of spinning.

    I'll probably do some experiments on some of my minor sites to see what impact it has (if any)
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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    I have never used spun content. In light of the slaps that have been coming down since the update, talks of more updates, and Google themselves saying that quality content is the premium for their search engines, I won't start using it either.
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  • Profile picture of the author candres79
    I personally don't use any spun content on the actual website itself, but i do use it for back linking. I have not had a problem with it... I agree with most of the people above.. if you spin the content good enough your not going to have too many problems
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  • Profile picture of the author amritrr
    I have a few blogs running, but I have never used it. I try to maintain a certain degree of quality and uniqueness to all the posts I write. Very often I also buy articles, but I check for uniqueness before accepting or publishing them.
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    • Profile picture of the author esmein
      I fully expect to get hammered for this, but I really don't understand why anyone would spin anything ever.

      I don't consider myself an exceptionally quick typist, or a great article writer by any standard, but if quality wasn't high up on my priority list, I could write 2,300-2,500 words in an hour, as I have done so in the past for Ezine submissions.

      That gives 6-8 completely unique articles that are on topic, legible and don't immediately give any accidental human visitor the idea that you can't give two dead rats about who reads articles you put out.

      The other reason I'm flabbergasted is because I believe unique content works better as a backlink fodder. In these articles you naturally use contextually and semantically related terms instead of your keywords (no spinner software would ever accidentally add to the text). We know Google loves that, because when you feed it these articles they have content to match with unexpected alterations on common main keywords. Batsh*t longtail traffic is another expression I'd use.

      Second, and probably more important reason to not use spun content anywhere, in my opinion, is that you value these... pieces of text... lower. You're more likely to develop work habits that don't help your business by skimping on parts of the process. What I mean is that if it takes you 2 minutes to spin an article, but 15 minutes to write it from scratch, you're more likely to make damn sure the latter gets put on sites that are higher up in the chain of command.

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      The point I'm getting at is that I don't understand the logic behind spinning content, let alone using it anywhere a search engine sees it.

      I'm not trying to sound like a white knight here, I'm simply looking for landmarks so that I can see where you're going with all that spun stuff.
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      • Profile picture of the author dennis09
        Originally Posted by esmein View Post

        I fully expect to get hammered for this, but I really don't understand why anyone would spin anything ever.

        I don't consider myself an exceptionally quick typist, or a great article writer by any standard, but if quality wasn't high up on my priority list, I could write 2,300-2,500 words in an hour, as I have done so in the past for Ezine submissions.

        That gives 6-8 completely unique articles that are on topic, legible and don't immediately give any accidental human visitor the idea that you can't give two dead rats about who reads articles you put out.

        The other reason I'm flabbergasted is because I believe unique content works better as a backlink fodder. In these articles you naturally use contextually and semantically related terms instead of your keywords (no spinner software would ever accidentally add to the text). We know Google loves that, because when you feed it these articles they have content to match with unexpected alterations on common main keywords. Batsh*t longtail traffic is another expression I'd use.

        Second, and probably more important reason to not use spun content anywhere, in my opinion, is that you value these... pieces of text... lower. You're more likely to develop work habits that don't help your business by skimping on parts of the process. What I mean is that if it takes you 2 minutes to spin an article, but 15 minutes to write it from scratch, you're more likely to make damn sure the latter gets put on sites that are higher up in the chain of command.

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        The point I'm getting at is that I don't understand the logic behind spinning content, let alone using it anywhere a search engine sees it.

        I'm not trying to sound like a white knight here, I'm simply looking for landmarks so that I can see where you're going with all that spun stuff.
        I agree and disagree with you here. Spinning definitely still "works", but if it is only taking you 15 minutes to spin a document then I can tell you from the get-go that you're doing it COMPLETELY "wrong" AND wasting your time.

        How do I know? Because unfortunately I am doing this for a living until my sites recover (see sig), and it doesn't matter how fast you can type, a properly spun article will take anywhere from 4-6 hours to do. And yes it is HARD, MONOTONOUS, WORK!!! (But somebody's gotta do it, right?)

        Now of course you could write 15 articles in this same period, but on the contrary a properly written and spun document will yield HUNDREDS if not THOUSANDS of unique, grammatically correct and "real" user engaging content that flows well and doesn't look like crap.

        As for backlinking, simple synonyms do not "work" anymore. You need to spin every single sentence, phrases+words, and add null sentences to the paragraphs as well.

        Now if you put that much work into a single syntax, then I guarantee you won't value these lower. Hell after 5 hours of manual spinning you'll probable gain a whole new level of respect for the process, one that goes way beyond cranking out 5 unique articles in an hour.

        But you are absolutely correct in that unique content works better for backlinking. Hence the reason you need to be deep spinning your articles. Simple word spinning is DEAD. They get extremely ****ty indexing rates and the ones that do get indexed get "omitted" from the SERPS after some time. Which means you will need to CONSTANTLY be replacing them. People need to wake the hell up, stop being lazy, and put the time or money in to get it right the first time.

        My personal motto:

        STOP WASTING RESOURCES ON BACKLINKS THAT DON'T STICK!!!
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        • Profile picture of the author esmein
          Originally Posted by dennis09 View Post

          a properly written and spun document will yield HUNDREDS if not THOUSANDS of unique, grammatically correct and "real" user engaging content that flows well and doesn't look like crap.
          There's a point I'd like to pick your brain on a little further, if you don't mind!

          Actually, no picking necessary, just a quick question: Where on earth would someone put so many articles in the first place? Let's pretend for the argument's sake that UAW and similar mass submission tools don't exist. How would you get around finding enough article directories to submit that many pieces of content?
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          • Profile picture of the author dennis09
            Originally Posted by esmein View Post

            There's a point I'd like to pick your brain on a little further, if you don't mind!

            Actually, no picking necessary, just a quick question: Where on earth would someone put so many articles in the first place? Let's pretend for the argument's sake that UAW and similar mass submission tools don't exist. How would you get around finding enough article directories to submit that many pieces of content?
            If they didn't exist, which is probable with the way Google is heading, then of course you'd be left to scanning them down with a tool such as Scrapebox.

            You could also choose to use them on a personal blog network. Unless you were autoblogging or scraping content, updating these regularly would prove to be a major hassle. This is where this type of "highly" spun content would come into play. If you do this then you better make damn sure you spend the time to do a quality spin, if not you could be leaving yourself a footprint. Hope I answered your question.
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            • Profile picture of the author esmein
              Originally Posted by dennis09 View Post

              If they didn't exist, which is probable with the way Google is heading, then of course you'd be left to scanning them down with a tool such as Scrapebox.

              You could also choose to use them on a personal blog network. Unless you were autoblogging or scraping content, updating these regularly would prove to be a major hassle. This is where this type of "highly" spun content would come into play. If you do this then you better make damn sure you spend the time to do a quality spin, if not you could be leaving yourself a footprint. Hope I answered your question.
              Sure you did, thanks for taking the time
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              • Profile picture of the author dennis09
                Originally Posted by esmein View Post

                Sure you did, thanks for taking the time
                No worries, you have to give in order to receive . I'd be happy to entertain more.
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  • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
    There is nooooo way I will ever put spun content on the money site. Absolutely NO way. I've read spun content before and it's frustrating. But yeah, I'm just talking about using it for backlinks.
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