Do You Have to Be Willing to Write on Junky Topics to Find Many Good Keywords?

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So I decided to make 20 or 30 microniche sites. I wanted each to revolve around a keyword with some basic criteria like 1000 exact search a month and less than 100,000 competing pages and more than $1 adwords cost and low competition quality.

Well I have sat here now for two nights and found 1 keyword of the slightest interest to me that meet these basic criteria.

Now I'm sure if I started typing in just any words I could think of with no regard to my interests at all, I'd find some keywords. But this is getting me down.

Anyone else find it incredibly hard to find any keywords that you could actually see yourself being interested in writing about and building links to for months to come? Here I am thinking I'm gonna fly through building 20 or 30 sites and now I'm not sure if I can find more than 1 or 2!
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Tell me one subject your interested in, I'll see what I can find.

    Just an example that you might possibly consider.
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    • Profile picture of the author Builder154
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Tell me one subject your interested in, I'll see what I can find.

      Just an example that you might possibly consider.
      Well I like topics that really improve people's lives. Their relationships. Their understanding of the world. But not spammy crap like bs alternative medicines that have no proof behind them and so on.
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by Builder154 View Post

        Well I like topics that really improve people's lives. Their relationships. Their understanding of the world. But not spammy crap like bs alternative medicines that have no proof behind them and so on.
        The root keyword is online education, the keywords below the root keyword are Category keywords (root keyword for each Category).

        Find 5-10 additional keywords with decent traffic numbers to fill each category with supporting pages.

        I searched Google SERPs for the root keyword online education clicked on a few of the first page ranked sites, viewed their source code in my browser & grabbed a few keywords from the Meta-Keyword tag in the header.


        Category Ideas
        • online education
          • online education courses
          • online education training
          • online education degrees
          • distance learning
          • degree programs
          • college courses
          • high school courses
          • college accreditation
          • continuing education
          • job training
          • online colleges
          • distance learning programs
          • online universities
          • continuing education
          • online degree
          • online mba
          • online bachelors degree
          • university of phoenix
          • online university
          • guide
          • online schools
          • online degree
          • degrees online
          • online education
          • distance learning
          • degree
          • degrees
        Search Google for supporting page keyword ideas:

        Example, the category keyword from the list above is online bachelors degree:

        intitle:"online bachelors degree"

        A few keywords I found in page titles from the SERPs.

        Supporting page Ideas

        Online Bachelors Degree Programs
        Online Bachelors Degree Fast
        Online Bachelors Degree Education
        Online Bachelors Degree In Business
        Online Bachelors Degree Completion Program
        Get Online Bachelors Degree Education
        Accredited Online Bachelors Degree Programs
        Online Bachelors Degree in Psychology
        I went to page #3 in the SERPs grabbing partial SERP titles related to the main keyword in the category.

        These are keyword ideas that you can research in Google Keyword Tool. The only thing your doing with the SERP titles is getting ideas for new keywords.

        My advice is build authority sites, but you can still use this for generating ideas on any size site.

        Remember we started with a single keyword idea online education. You can monetize this entire niche with Adsense or CPA offers, both would work & that's something you should keep in mind when thinking of a root keyword (online education), always give yourself multiple ways to monetize your pages (Plan-B).
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        • Profile picture of the author Builder154
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          The root keyword is online education, the keywords below the root keyword are Category keywords (root keyword for each Category).
          Yukon, I really appreciate you doing that and I will look into those keywords. But this is actually an example of what I mean. These online degrees are exactly the kind of industry full of junk and spam that I'm talking about. You know the ones. Berry juices that claim to give you superhuman health. Credit card offers. And yes these endless ads for these scammy degree factories.

          And this is exactly my point. I want to do a site about actual meaningful educational topics. But instead, when I search keywords and filter based on traffic and competition, I get whittled down to just what you found - always the spammiest element of whatever niche I consider.

          I'm not saying there aren't a few quality online education options. I'm sure there are though I know nothing about them. But I'm just saying the majority of online stuff dealing with online degrees is just shoving bs degree mills in people's faces.

          I mean I'm not shocked by this. It's probably like this in any industry online or offline. There are a few really good products and services mostly with huge competition and then there are tons of scammy things that the rest of the lower level business people are competing for.
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  • Profile picture of the author josephseeley
    What do you mean by "low competition quality"? (Just making sure it's not low comp in Adwords Keyword Tool, which you want to be high of course.)

    I have 100 niche sites right now. I don't love all the niches, far from it. Some of the keywords are exceedingly mindnumbing to write about ... but I love the money I can make with them!

    Two nights just isn't enough time to research 20 good niches unless you're extremely prolific, or not very picky. I've been researching keywords off and on for over a year now.
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    • Profile picture of the author Builder154
      Originally Posted by josephseeley View Post

      What do you mean by "low competition quality"? (Just making sure it's not low comp in Adwords Keyword Tool, which you want to be high of course.)

      I have 100 niche sites right now. I don't love all the niches, far from it. Some of the keywords are exceedingly mindnumbing to write about ... but I love the money I can make with them!

      Two nights just isn't enough time to research 20 good niches unless you're extremely prolific, or not very picky. I've been researching keywords off and on for over a year now.
      I mean by low competition quality the typical things - top 10 with low PR, reasonably low backlinks, etc. I think pretty basic criteria I've compiled. Don't worry I'm not new to this stuff. I do know basic competition criteria that looks beatable.

      I didn't mean I expected to find 20 niches in 2 nights. But I expected to find at least a couple! And I'm confused what to even search on after doing like 50 tries now.
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  • Profile picture of the author josephseeley
    Why not focus on building the 2 you have? That will take some time. Then as you get more ideas you can research more niches. I know every day I run into a new niche or two that looks promising.

    You might learn some things along the way that lead you to new niches too. Several of my sites are due to getting keyword traffic to one site (where it didn't really fit) and deciding to build another site to target that new niche.
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    • Profile picture of the author Builder154
      Originally Posted by josephseeley View Post

      Why not focus on building the 2 you have? That will take some time. Then as you get more ideas you can research more niches. I know every day I run into a new niche or two that looks promising.

      You might learn some things along the way that lead you to new niches too. Several of my sites are due to getting keyword traffic to one site (where it didn't really fit) and deciding to build another site to target that new niche.
      Well the two I found now are still borderline and not really that thrilling. I could do them, but I'd really rather find something I'm more confident about.

      Just to be clear I'm not a total newbie to this. I have a couple niche sites from the past and I have studied this stuff for a while. I was mostly building an authority site so this is the first time I've started looking for multiple good keywords in different areas and I'm surprised how hard it is to find and how uninspiring the few I'm finding are. I think the word you used, mindnumbing, is accurate.
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  • Profile picture of the author josephseeley
    Yah, sadly it's not all fun and games.

    I'm still looking for that one "passion" website. Maybe I'll never find it. I have found several profitable niches though.

    I have a farm in the Philippines that's my passion. (A hammock too!) I don't think I'll ever be passionate about writing, or SEO in general, but I can put up with it to pay for getting what I am interested in up and running.
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    • Profile picture of the author Builder154
      Originally Posted by josephseeley View Post

      Yah, sadly it's not all fun and games.

      I'm still looking for that one "passion" website. Maybe I'll never find it. I have found several profitable niches though.

      I have a farm in the Philippines that's my passion. (A hammock too!) I don't think I'll ever be passionate about writing, or SEO in general, but I can put up with it to pay for getting what I am interested in up and running.
      So you have 100 niches and none that you're passionate about? That would be strong support for what I'm finding. The niches that still are doable are mindnumbing.
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      • Profile picture of the author josephseeley
        Originally Posted by Builder154 View Post

        So you have 100 niches and none that you're passionate about? That would be strong support for what I'm finding. The niches that still are doable are mindnumbing.
        Well, I don't know that there ever were any niches that I would find truly enjoyable to work in. I don't much like writing. Some are better than others of course.
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  • Profile picture of the author harvez16
    This is extremely helpful thanks Yukon.
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