Yesterday autoblog, today curation..here is my bet

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Raja Kamil

My bet is, curation won's survive for 2013 :p
just wait and see ....

Hi,

Do you mean won't survive?

Curation has another name.

I saw a news story, on TV, about curation last week which made me say to myself, "Wow! Harlan was right."

That news story reported that curation (using it's other name) is bigger/more important than any other thing on the Internet and multi billion dollar corporations are in the "curation" business.

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Raja Kamil

12 years ago

Sorry, typo, yes i mean won't....
We'll see

I don't want to say this because I also have few curated sites, but that the reality, when a method is overly used, it will get saturated and in this case will bring curation method down.

I reall hope I'm wrong.

Originally Posted by George Wright

Hi,

Do you mean won't survive?

Curation has another name.

I saw a news story about it last week which made me say to myself, "Wow! Harlan was right."

That news story reported that curation (using it's other name) is bigger/more important than any other thing on the Internet and multi billion dollar corporations are in the "curation" business.

George Wright

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cashcow

12 years ago

I think the blogs that use some spammy automated "curation" method for a quick buck won't last but real sites that are doing edited curation that adds value will.

I know curation is "touted" as an easy way to get content for your blog but the truth is that it takes longer (for me) to make a good curated post than it does to write a 500 word article.

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Raja Kamil

12 years ago

Originally Posted by cashcow

I think the blogs that use some spammy automated "curation" method for a quick buck won't last but real sites that are doing edited curation that adds value will.

I know curation is "touted" as an easy way to get content for your blog but the truth is that it takes longer (for me) to make a good curated post than it does to write a 500 word article.

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No doubt what you said in this post is 150% right !

automated will kill greedy but lazy marketers

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Michael Ngo

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by cashcow

I think the blogs that use some spammy automated "curation" method for a quick buck won't last but real sites that are doing edited curation that adds value will.

I know curation is "touted" as an easy way to get content for your blog but the truth is that it takes longer (for me) to make a good curated post than it does to write a 500 word article.

totally agree. it seems every week there is a new flavour of the week, the latest being pinterest and curation. done correctly, curation is a brilliant way of building an engaging website for users, but lately people on here are putting out wso's on curation as a easy way to get unique content.

good curation is adding value to content, at least a paragraph or two. spammy curation is lazy marketers adding 4 sentences and then pasting the content with a link back.

everyone wants to make money in IM but all i see is just people cutting corners and not putting no effort into building a long term business.

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CyberSEO

12 years ago

Are autoblogs dead already? Haven't noticed that

What's "curation" BTW? Enlighten me please.

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sbucciarel

Banned 12 years ago

I have a couple curated blogs and they aren't anything like an autoblog. I use my own content to comment on the news stories and provide excerpts and links to the other news stories I'm referencing, but the articles are at least 50% peppered with my own comments.

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Marsala

12 years ago

Why would curation die? Curation is not a new thing. News agencies have used curation since before we were born and it's still here. It doesn't look like it's about to go away.

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RevenueGal

12 years ago

I do think it will depend if curation is done correctly and giving your visitors real value. You should still offer some unique content and make sure all information is high quality. People respond to this and even refer others to these sites. So no need to totally depend on Google for all traffic to your site and struggling to survive.

On the other hand, those who take shortcuts to create these types of sites by slapping content on there quickly everyday, I imagine Google will find a way to weed these out since they're not offering quality to users.

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Raja Kamil

12 years ago

Ops, I think I'm forgot to say, curation on automatic that will be die !

For those that editting and posting it manually, don't worry so much.
It's like blogging, autoblogging is dying (if not dead yet), but blogging still working.
Same goes to curating content, it won't die if doing it manually.

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kaizerinfo

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Raja Kamil

Ops, I think I'm forgot to say, curation on automatic that will be die !

For those that editting and posting it manually, don't worry so much.
It's like blogging, autoblogging is dying (if not dead yet), but blogging still working.
Same goes to curating content, it won't die if doing it manually.

Well,this can be automated and already automated.

You can collect content,moderate it,edit, choose the time,when you want it to be posted.
Or,if you do this by hand,google will love you more?

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onSubie

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Raja Kamil

Ops, I think I'm forgot to say, curation on automatic that will be die !

Well, that's just an autoblog

Funny thing is in any WSO thread about a tool that can 'assist' in curation, many posters reply in the tread: "Can it be automated"?

Automated curation is just autoblogging; it isn't curation.

Curation ADDS value to the piece while Autoblog just reposts/syndicates the content.

I often search for a curated story after reading an original version because there is missing background information or it is a story ripe for opinion.

For example, there was a recent story in a newspaper about a Canadian wine producer, Paul Bosc, who was receiving an award from the Queen. The article talked briefly about him and the importance of the award and had a quote from him about how much he appreciates the recognition.

But the story DID NOT contain any information about his vineyard except the name and it didn't have much other information about his contribution to wine in Canada.

This is the perfect article for curating because you could add a lot of additional value answering questions readers have that are not answered in the article:

Why is Paul Bosc known for wine?
What wines does his winery make?
Where can you buy his wine?
Is he still active or retired?
History of his winery and its importance in Canada.
etc.

This is one way curation is very effective, taking an article and adding value answering questions or providing information that was not included in the article.

How many times have you read a little article on a news site that left you running to Google to find the back-story or answer questions that were left unasked and unanswered in the original piece?

Curation is much more than:

This is a great article on <niche subject> that I think you should read:

[CURATED CONTENT]

Wasn't that great? I hope you enjoyed reading that as much as I enjoyed copying it.

Mahlon

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kaizerinfo

12 years ago

Originally Posted by onSubie

Well, that's just an autoblog

Funny thing is in any WSO thread about a tool that can 'assist' in curation, many posters reply in the tread: "Can it be automated"?

Automated curation is just autoblogging; it isn't curation.

Curation ADDS value to the piece while Autoblog just reposts/syndicates the content.

I often search for a curated story after reading an original version because there is missing background information or it is a story ripe for opinion.

For example, there was a recent story in a newspaper about a Canadian wine producer, Paul Bosc, who was receiving an award from the Queen. The article talked briefly about him and the importance of the award and had a quote from him about how much he appreciates the recognition.

But the story DID NOT contain any information about his vineyard except the name and it didn't have much other information about his contribution to wine in Canada.

This is the perfect article for curating because you could add a lot of additional value answering questions readers have that are not answered in the article:

Why is Paul Bosc known for wine?
What wines does his winery make?
Where can you buy his wine?
Is he still active or retired?
History of his winery and its importance in Canada.
etc.

This is one way curation is very effective, taking an article and adding value answering questions or providing information that was not included in the article.

How many times have you read a little article on a news site that left you running to Google to find the back-story or answer questions that were left unasked and unanswered in the original piece?

Curation is much more than:

This is a great article on <niche subject> that I think you should read:

[CURATED CONTENT]

Wasn't that great? I hope you enjoyed reading that as much as I enjoyed copying it.

Mahlon

This also can be automated.
People just don't understand what right autoblog is. It's like google alert,but all content on your own blog and you can manipulate it as you want.

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onSubie

12 years ago

Originally Posted by kaizerinfo

This also can be automated.

I highly doubt it. My father writes extensively on wine. No piece of software could find a wine related article and curate it with the insight my father has.

Of course anything can be 'automated' but we are talking about curation. The only thing an automated tool can do is add some approximated 'unique' content to make the piece appear curated.

It doesn't matter how 'natural' you make the automated content, it is impossible to automate unique insight.

In my example, how would you automate an opinion on the wines created by Paul Bosc? How would you compare the quality of his vineyard's wine against others in the Niagara region?

For that matter, how would automated software even be able to find the wines of historical importance from Bosc's vineyard?

And how would you do that while engaging your readers' questions and responses?

Autoblogs are designed to funnel traffic, they are not designed to engage readers.

Mahlon

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kaizerinfo

12 years ago

Originally Posted by onSubie

I highly doubt it. My father writes extensively on wine. No piece of software could find a wine related article and curate it with the insight my father has.

Of course anything can be 'automated' but we are talking about curation. The only thing an automated tool can do is add some approximated 'unique' content to make the piece appear curated.

It doesn't matter how 'natural' you make the automated content, it is impossible to automate unique insight.

In my example, how would you automate an opinion on the wines created by Paul Bosc? How would you compare the quality of his vineyard's wine against others in the Niagara region?

For that matter, how would automated software even be able to find the wines of historical importance from Bosc's vineyard?

And how would you do that while engaging your readers' questions and responses?

Autoblogs are designed to funnel traffic, they are not designed to engage readers.

Mahlon

You are right partiallty. You mean insights wich have your father. Actually your question is it possible to curate your farthers content. Yes,as soon as he published it.
Don't think that about vines,no other info in the whole internet.So,I guess we already have all info around that topic.
Moreover,if to parse your farthers blog,then mix it with other 5-10 authority blogs from that niche, who you think will have more related and usefull info ?

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Carol_A

12 years ago

Isn't Harlan always right?

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Cataclysm1987

12 years ago

Sorry to sound a bit silly, but what exactly is the difference between curation and auto blogging?

Is it just that you mix it with unique content?

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sbucciarel Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Cataclysm1987

Sorry to sound a bit silly, but what exactly is the difference between curation and auto blogging?

Is it just that you mix it with unique content?

An autoblog is automatic and there is no unique content. My curated sites aren't automatic. I post the content, choose the articles that I'm going to excerpt and discuss, write the comments about the articles that are my opinion/take on the topic.

There are of course some programs that profess to make curated sites automatic. Haven't seen yet what kind of garbage that puts out.
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dracoboar

12 years ago

can someone explain curation please. i am looking for something new

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cashcow

12 years ago

I think people might be missing one of the big benefits of curation and that is adding your own insights to the curated post.

This is what will get people to follow you.

People that like they way you think or how you interpret the topics you are curating will come back to your blog over and over to get your take on this stuff.

You can't do that with an autoblog tool.

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kaizerinfo

12 years ago

Originally Posted by cashcow

I think people might be missing one of the big benefits of curation and that is adding your own insights to the curated post.

This is what will get people to follow you.

People that like they way you think or how you interpret the topics you are curating will come back to your blog over and over to get your take on this stuff.

You can't do that with an autoblog tool.

People don't really know at all,if it your own insights or you read it somewhere else and just posted.
People need info,not your name under the article.
When you understand this,you will see that autoblogging is the way to make money.
Of course,if you someone like Obama or real guru,who have his own followers, insights is helpfull.
But nobody will wait insight from someone,whi is not authority at all.
Your insights it's just opinion,your opinion, it can be usefull or useless,no matter if you posted it by hand.

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kaizerinfo

12 years ago

If someone,hand posters,make real money at their blogs?
I am sure that 95 % not making money,may be pennies. Of course we speak about average Joe,not the top bloggers
Autobloggers make real money on autopilot. Of course, if done right.No matter if he guru or nobody know him.
This is the difference.

Or may be you will understand better this way.
We have 2 blogs,one posted by hands,other by automatic plugin.
As soon as first owner died,his blog not updated or make money.
If owner of autoblog died,his blog will be updated and making money.
Wich method is passive income?

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