Any Adsense Gurus on Here Able to offer some Tips Before I throw the Towel in?

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I have a magazine website which i recently added adsense to. No: 1 on google for my keyword search term and GKT and MNF reckon the 'exact' local search is 4k per month. But yet still, after a month, pnly one single adsense click! One.
I just don't get it.
There are guys on here talking about making a living from adsense, MFA sites at that, and here I am no: 1 in google but nada. Now, i know that the guys making a living from it probally have multiple sites, but even so, one site should generate something right?

I'm about to through the towel in with adsense. It just seems like a complete waste of a number one website. My plan was to make more of these, as I'm fairly confident about getting the sites ranked etc, but whats the point if I can't get clicks?

I would greatly appreciate any tips. Especially as theres another thread over at WSO, offering adsense sites which are GUARENTEED to make up to 4k each month. They base the earning potential on the ability to get the sites to rank no 1 in google. Which makes me think I must really be missing something as that obviously isn't working for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author hicksdelight
    it could be a number of things, like placement of the ads for example.

    but 4k isnt that much, even if you got 100% clicks on 4k, which you wont, thats only about 160 visits a day.
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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      Nobody can guarantee anything on adsense.

      You need targeted traffic, targeted ads.

      My feeling is that it is difficult for your site
      to get anything targeted. So you have to work
      with what you got.

      Put 3 ad blocks on your page. Top, middle, bottom.
      Make them all image and text. You might even
      make the top one image only.

      I'm not sure how a website magazine can have only
      one keyword, let alone local. Magazines should be
      all over the map.

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  • Profile picture of the author retsek
    It's a waste of time if you target poorly converting keywords. Like games or entertainment for instance. Also a waste of time if you don't get your placement and colors right without going overboard.

    - The sweet spots are inside the content and directly below the main content.
    - Stick with the Large Formats - 336x280, 160x600, 300x250, 728x90.
    - Two Units + 1 Link Unit is a good combination.

    ...but again it all really depends on the site and the niche and the visitors.

    Give your URL and you'll get better recommendations.
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  • Profile picture of the author Curtis2011
    Originally Posted by CesarWarrior View Post

    I would greatly appreciate any tips. Especially as theres another thread over at WSO, offering adsense sites which are GUARENTEED to make up to 4k each month. They base the earning potential on the ability to get the sites to rank no 1 in google. Which makes me think I must really be missing something as that obviously isn't working for me.
    1. Anyone who "guarantees" earnings like that is a scammer. I suggest you read the fine print where they admit that there is no actual guarantee of income.

    2. What is your website's daily unique visitor count? "Exact match searches" doesn't mean anything. All that matters is your website's actual visitor count.
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonGiorgini
    I would suggest that you maybe change the layout of your page, use different colors, perhaps blend the ads into your layout.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Gram
    First of all, I wouldn't waste any time with some BS WSO that "guarantees" $4,000 per month. I can't really give you much in terms of tips without seeing your actual site or getting more information.

    Have you built pages for other keywords besides the main? Is your site a high quality site that helps people? How much traffic are you getting to the site each day?
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  • Profile picture of the author OmarNegron
    This happened to me before even though my keyword only got 1K searches. Sometimes certain niches just DONT work for adsense IMO.

    Maybe the advertisers are doing a poor job of enticing the visitors to click.

    Could be many things..

    -Omar

    P.S. Don't throw the towel in...ever.
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  • Profile picture of the author dp40oz
    Adsense is all about the niche and ad relevance. I have sites that get 15 people a day and make $40 on adsense and I have sites that get 2000 people a day and make $5.
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  • Profile picture of the author macker2298
    in my experience it seems that adsense is a numbers game more than anything. Personally, i find that for every 700 impressions i get 1 click so i figure out what i need to do based on that.
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    • Profile picture of the author gcoo029
      Originally Posted by macker2298 View Post

      in my experience it seems that adsense is a numbers game more than anything. Personally, i find that for every 700 impressions i get 1 click so i figure out what i need to do based on that.
      I agree with macker and dp40.....its a numbers game and there is only a certain amount you can do to improve the CTR. I have around 18-20 sites that mostly get around 0.5% to 1.0% CTR with some as high as 5%

      CTR.....1:700 seems awfully low macker although there are some niches that just don't generate clicks (for whatever reason)

      You will also find that some really random niches will turn out to be "gold nugets" and some you thought would be good just won't convert.

      My answer was to build heaps of sites (I built/had built 40 odd MFA websites just before Xmas)and have just sold the under-performers (at a loss mind you) to free up some capital to invest in seo and traffic for the "gold nuggets"

      The more sites you build the more chance you will have of finding that gold nugget that will generate you a reasonable income and by this I mean $10 -$20 a day
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      • Profile picture of the author nik0
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        Originally Posted by gcoo029 View Post

        I agree with macker and dp40.....its a numbers game and there is only a certain amount you can do to improve the CTR. I have around 18-20 sites that mostly get around 0.5% to 1.0% CTR with some as high as 5%

        CTR.....1:700 seems awfully low macker although there are some niches that just don't generate clicks (for whatever reason)

        You will also find that some really random niches will turn out to be "gold nugets" and some you thought would be good just won't convert.

        My answer was to build heaps of sites (I built/had built 40 odd MFA websites just before Xmas)and have just sold the under-performers (at a loss mind you) to free up some capital to invest in seo and traffic for the "gold nuggets"

        The more sites you build the more chance you will have of finding that gold nugget that will generate you a reasonable income and by this I mean $10 -$20 a day
        Where are the websites that I bought that would be pushed yesterday?
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  • Profile picture of the author CesarWarrior
    Wow! Thanks for your replies guys! to be honest, I think adsense sounds like its going to be allot of work for little profit in my case. I think you've either got the knack, or you haven't. And unfortunately, in regards to adsense, I haven't. I have 2 other sites both on google page 1, so 2 sites no: 1 and one site no: 5, and none of them made a dime this last week. I'm seriously tempted to just click those darned adds myself, just to make sure they're workinG! But of course - I won't. i'm getting page views, so I know they're working.
    Anyway, I think I'll leave the adsense on those sites until I can figure out a better way to monetize them, maybe affiliate or create my own product. There's gotta be another way! Who knows, I may even pick up a few cents from adsense over the next few weeks - IF I'm lucky!

    Cheers!
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  • Profile picture of the author jed78
    Hey CW, don't give up just yet, try some tweaking, I'm such a noob at this but with just one or two adjustments I have seen the changes occur. It can be slight changes that really help, a blended color scheme or a tweak on ad placement. Don't give up the ghost just yet
    Good luck !
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  • Profile picture of the author clark31
    Hi, everyone has there own approach of course, but I found that finding keywords with huge searches and concentrating on the long-tail (up to three words) off that has produced best results. Don't worry too much about "money" KW's, usually the LSI's off those are too competitive. My best sites average around 40 cents/click and CTR average of 8-10%. Good-luck, and hang in there.
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  • Profile picture of the author mrgood
    Originally Posted by CesarWarrior View Post

    I have a magazine website which i recently added adsense to. No: 1 on google for my keyword search term and GKT and MNF reckon the 'exact' local search is 4k per month. But yet still, after a month, pnly one single adsense click! One.
    I just don't get it.
    There are guys on here talking about making a living from adsense, MFA sites at that, and here I am no: 1 in google but nada. Now, i know that the guys making a living from it probally have multiple sites, but even so, one site should generate something right?

    I'm about to through the towel in with adsense. It just seems like a complete waste of a number one website. My plan was to make more of these, as I'm fairly confident about getting the sites ranked etc, but whats the point if I can't get clicks?

    I would greatly appreciate any tips. Especially as theres another thread over at WSO, offering adsense sites which are GUARENTEED to make up to 4k each month. They base the earning potential on the ability to get the sites to rank no 1 in google. Which makes me think I must really be missing something as that obviously isn't working for me.
    If it is 4000 exact per month, and you are no.1 for that keyword, you will get about 42 percent of that visits (that is the percent that no. 1 spot on google gets from all of visits). With a simple calculation: 42 % from 4000 is 1680. If we now divide 1680 with 30 days, it is exactly 56 visitors per day. Of course you can not make for living with such a low visit.
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    • Profile picture of the author CesarWarrior
      Originally Posted by mrgood View Post

      If it is 4000 exact per month, and you are no.1 for that keyword, you will get about 42 percent of that visits (that is the percent that no. 1 spot on google gets from all of visits). With a simple calculation: 42 % from 4000 is 1680. If we now divide 1680 with 30 days, it is exactly 56 visitors per day. Of course you can not make for living with such a low visit.
      Dang! Really? That makes perfect sense!! I'm such a newbie, but feel like such a mug because I followed another thread on here that told folks how to make money with adsense, and that guy swears blind he makes good money from 500 per month exact searches. 500! So I thought if I target 4k per month, I'd really be rolling in it! Now methinks that guy over on the other thread could be telling porkies! I have now learnt not to take everything on here as gospel.
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      • Profile picture of the author mrgood
        Originally Posted by CesarWarrior View Post

        Dang! Really? That makes perfect sense!! I'm such a newbie, but feel like such a mug because I followed another thread on here that told folks how to make money with adsense, and that guy swears blind he makes good money from 500 per month exact searches. 500! So I thought if I target 4k per month, I'd really be rolling in it! Now methinks that guy over on the other thread could be telling porkies! I have now learnt not to take everything on here as gospel.
        Well, my calculations are correct. But those calculations are for one keyword. Try to get at least on the first page of google for some other related keywords. This is the easiest way to get more traffic.
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      • Profile picture of the author gcoo029
        You are not the first and I'm sure you won't be the last to fall for the "make $100s a month" from microniche websites. If you can make $10 -$20 a month per website you are doing ok. As I mentioned it is a numbers game. Some websites can generate a good income with only a little traffic but you need to be lucky. You will probably have 99 failures before you find the gold nuget that makes it all worthwhile


        Originally Posted by CesarWarrior View Post

        Dang! Really? That makes perfect sense!! I'm such a newbie, but feel like such a mug because I followed another thread on here that told folks how to make money with adsense, and that guy swears blind he makes good money from 500 per month exact searches. 500! So I thought if I target 4k per month, I'd really be rolling in it! Now methinks that guy over on the other thread could be telling porkies! I have now learnt not to take everything on here as gospel.
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        • Profile picture of the author mrgood
          Originally Posted by gcoo029 View Post

          You are not the first and I'm sure you won't be the last to fall for the "make $100s a month" from microniche websites. If you can make $10 -$20 a month per website you are doing ok. As I mentioned it is a numbers game. Some websites can generate a good income with only a little traffic but you need to be lucky. You will probably have 99 failures before you find the gold nuget that makes it all worthwhile
          There is no need to be lucky, but you must have some knowledge about this. You must know how to choose your keyword, and you must know if there exists adwords ads for those keywords, in fact is it a buying keyword or not.
          This is totally unrelated with luck.
          For example, I have a website one month old. It already earns about 1-2 $ daily. And I am in second page of Google for main keyword. It has 4400 exact searches for those keyword, and I also have some other related keywords.
          According to my calculations, if I hit number one on Google, I should earn 10-15 $ daily. And I will hit number one for sure, since there is no competition.
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  • Profile picture of the author CesarWarrior
    Originally Posted by Alyona The Publicist View Post

    ...perhaps the problem is that your adsense publisher code is not right or maybe your site is turned off in your google adsense account. Altough rare, these things do happen.
    Thanks for that. I think publisher code must be right otherwise it wouldn't be registering page veiws ...... according to my limited knowledge anyway. And when you say site could be 'turned off', is that when you 'authorize' your sites? If so, then they're all in my authorized section already.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Originally Posted by CesarWarrior View Post

    I have a magazine website which i recently added adsense to. No: 1 on google for my keyword search term and GKT and MNF reckon the 'exact' local search is 4k per month. But yet still, after a month, pnly one single adsense click! One.
    I just don't get it.
    There are guys on here talking about making a living from adsense, MFA sites at that, and here I am no: 1 in google but nada. Now, i know that the guys making a living from it probally have multiple sites, but even so, one site should generate something right?

    I'm about to through the towel in with adsense. It just seems like a complete waste of a number one website. My plan was to make more of these, as I'm fairly confident about getting the sites ranked etc, but whats the point if I can't get clicks?

    I would greatly appreciate any tips. Especially as theres another thread over at WSO, offering adsense sites which are GUARENTEED to make up to 4k each month. They base the earning potential on the ability to get the sites to rank no 1 in google. Which makes me think I must really be missing something as that obviously isn't working for me.
    An estimated 4K traffic is totally different than real site data.

    How much real traffic do you get per month (average)?
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  • Profile picture of the author Greenfatman
    Man, some guys are making a lot money with 500 searches because they're targeting high cpc like insurance, loans, etc, this way you don't need many people to visit your sites but of course they need to click on the ads.
    Why you don't make a living ranking people sites,instead?
    As you mentioned you don't have a lot problems to put a site on the top of google, so this could be a great alternative...
    For adsense you need to test many things...and yes, spend money buying sites, contents and backlinks.Adsense is not an easy ride, you need to be very consistent.

    Regards,
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  • Profile picture of the author IMSince2003
    Honestly guys, how can you give advice about layout, etc., etc., if we have no idea what niche he's targeting specifically, or what his site looks like or what. Cesar, I am not advocating that you divulge your site, but from my experience, I'm sure you've got a few real issues going on. First, problem with the site content and/or layout. Second, a filter set on your Adsense account that's a problem. Third, a niche phrase that simply does not convert (I've had a few of those). So, until you have at least 100 sites and have tried all kinds of niches, you're waaaaayyyyy to early in the game to give up. Here's a tip. A much easier way to test Adsense at least initially is to create an account over at HubPages.com and put up some hubs in niches you would like to try. Create some backlinks to those hubs. Track and identify the winners. Once you see some $$$ from it, you will be encouraged to do more on your own sites. I wish you well and hope you don't give up.
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  • Profile picture of the author paul nicholls
    it does happen

    you sometimes do end up top of google but not get hardly any traffic. It doesnt happen much but it does happen

    its a numbers game, not every site you build will make bundles but then others will take over when you dont expect them to

    just stick with it and keep pushing forward you will come out better in the end

    paul
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  • Profile picture of the author cleanerupper
    How did you guys learn to identify niches? I would appreciate specific examples like: ask friends and family about their problems, Yahoo Answers, random searching, etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author mrehan
      How much traffic do you get from you No.1 spot on Google. And the No.1 spot you see, is it form your browser of thru checking the keyword from a SERP checking software?
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  • Profile picture of the author titleseo
    Adsense earning is completely depend upon the quality of your content. and the visitors interest in your website. You need to get thousands of visitors per day for earning 4k per month. The targeted visitors which may click more on the ads will help you to generate good earning from adsense. Look nothing going to change in one day so you need to work hard on quality content submission, finding different source for promoting your website and try to engage your visitors on your website.

    They should feel that the website is help full and getting update every day with new information. People will visit back to your website to get more information.
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  • Profile picture of the author nvs74191
    Make a thousand sites, and come back and tell us adsense isn't worth it. Let us see you do that.
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    • Profile picture of the author CesarWarrior
      Originally Posted by nvs74191 View Post

      Make a thousand sites, and come back and tell us adsense isn't worth it. Let us see you do that.
      Are you having a bad day mate? If you have nothing of value to add, why bother post?
      If I already have 3 sites with adsense, each of them making NIL, and I make 1000 more of similar ilk sites....1000 x 0 = ? What was that?
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      • Profile picture of the author nvs74191
        Missed replying to this:

        Originally Posted by CesarWarrior View Post

        Are you having a bad day mate? If you have nothing of value to add, why bother post?
        If I already have 3 sites with adsense, each of them making NIL, and I make 1000 more of similar ilk sites....1000 x 0 = ? What was that?
        Here goes:

        You can't make worthwhile adsense money by just having 3-5 sites. It takes a heck of a lot of traffic to get decent number of adsense clicks. With the level of ad blindness and google's aggression in tackling accounts that over optimize or aggressively increase click throughs with certain ad placements, I doubt if your sites can generate income to retire on. You simply cannot generate that much traffic in a narrow niche.

        But when you scale it up, and make 1000 sites, the adsense earnings suddenly starts looking interesting.

        Most people sweat about adding more content to their limited number of sites, and get ready to throw in the towel. I have been there too.

        Now I have more than 1000 micro niche sites, and the adsense earning is getting decent.

        Trouble is, we read stuff on here and think we will make the best site that will rake in the moolah. It is simply not going to work.

        Scale up your efforts, and see each site adding a trickle to your adsense earnings. Little drops make a mighty ocean, as they say.

        Don't do it mindlessly by running out and buying domains. Buy one generic domain for say the hair loss market, and build sites on subdomains for a lot of topics in that market. Use the wordpress mutlisite feature for this. I have tested this approach, and can confidently say it works. Also saves on domain costs, and feelings of frustration when some of your sites don't perform.

        Want more? Ok, I choose topics, not keywords. Get into yahoo answers and poke around - get a big list of sub topics for your market. Sites will be built around the subtopics. Instead of wasting time doing keyword research, post all types of content - it can be auto blog content too. (Adsense is not against autoblog or republished content - it is only very much against spun and machine generated junk content - they do say you have to add value to republished content by adding your opinion about the article). I have had great success posting yahoo answers content on my sites - these get you long tail traffic. As long as the content is relevant to the topic, you will get organic traffic from google. Not all your posts will rank on page 1, but over time you will find them ranking in postion 11, and slowly gain ground. Use rank tracker plugin (ranktrackerplugin.com- paul forcey product) to get email alerts on which of your pages are ranking and in which postion. Improve on those posts - add more relevant content, add a relevant image with proper alt tag, a video, whatever. Ignore the posts that don't rank - google is telling you which posts on your sites they are willing to rank. Focus on those posts. If it has autoblog content, maybe get original content written (frankly, this is not necessary and I have many sites that have republished content on them, and I have not built links to get my sites to rank - and these sites produce adsense income for me. Some make a dollar a day, some make 10 dollars a month, some make 8-10 dollars a day).

        Pick 6-7 large markets - weight loss, make money, law, etc. and repeat the above process. You will spend money on buying max. 10 domains, but each of your domain will work extra hard for you in adding to your adsense income.

        Repeat the process for all your domains. It is impossible not to earn with adsense. Don't throw in the towel just yet.
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        • Profile picture of the author CesarWarrior
          WOW Thanks NVS! Great post!!

          Please don't take this the wrong way, but managing 1000 sites sounds like a tonn of unnecessary work! Have you ever read 100k adsense blueprint? These guys are making up to 4k per site. My plan is to have 3 at 1k pm. If I had to build 1000 to make a living, then I would definitely throw the towel in!
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          • Profile picture of the author nvs74191
            What managing? I set them up and move on to my next batch of sites. I work only about 3-4 hours a day. Rest of the time I am finding useful things to learn.

            The method I follow may be better, but I am prejudiced.



            Originally Posted by CesarWarrior View Post

            WOW Thanks NVS! Great post!!

            Please don't take this the wrong way, but managing 1000 sites sounds like a tonn of unnecessary work! Have you ever read 100k adsense blueprint? These guys are making up to 4k per site. My plan is to have 3 at 1k pm. If I had to build 1000 to make a living, then I would definitely throw the towel in!
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          • Profile picture of the author bfas
            Originally Posted by CesarWarrior View Post

            WOW Thanks NVS! Great post!!

            Please don't take this the wrong way, but managing 1000 sites sounds like a tonn of unnecessary work! Have you ever read 100k adsense blueprint? These guys are making up to 4k per site. My plan is to have 3 at 1k pm. If I had to build 1000 to make a living, then I would definitely throw the towel in!
            Stick with it.

            No disrespect to any posters, but the days of "set & forget", "autopilot", "auto-anything" sites maintaining rankings in Google are effectively over for any but the least-competitive areas.

            And as far as Adsense is concerned, the bar is even higher.

            Any strategy for building a sustainable Adsense business worth it's salt is going to lead you to building quality, frequently updated sites.

            Michael
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  • Profile picture of the author trizzypballr
    I am also in the same boat, I have about 5 Adsense pages, and am only averaging about 23 cents a day. Its depressing. I am also in the process of learning amazon sites, so im going to try to work with both.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
      Originally Posted by CesarWarrior View Post

      If I already have 3 sites with adsense, each of them making NIL, and I make 1000 more of similar ilk sites....1000 x 0 = ? What was that?
      You said you've only had Adsense on there for a month. If you are going to give up after a month on everything you try, you are likely to be skipping around a lot and never making any real money.

      Originally Posted by trizzypballr View Post

      I am also in the same boat, I have about 5 Adsense pages, and am only averaging about 23 cents a day. Its depressing. I am also in the process of learning amazon sites, so im going to try to work with both.
      Seriously? 5 whole pages?

      It takes real work and real effort to make a living with anything, guys. Figure that out and find some stick-to-itiveness and you might succeed.
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      • Profile picture of the author trizzypballr
        Originally Posted by Tina Golden View Post

        You said you've only had Adsense on there for a month. If you are going to give up after a month on everything you try, you are likely to be skipping around a lot and never making any real money.

        Seriously? 5 whole pages?

        It takes real work and real effort to make a living with anything, guys. Figure that out and find some stick-to-itiveness and you might succeed.
        I never said I expected to make a living off of 5 sites, not pages. There are are least 30 pages between the 5 sites. My issue is that im averaging about 20 cents a day, between those 5 sites... Going by that, it'd take about 25 sites (150 pages) to average a dollar a day? That seems HORRIBLE
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  • Profile picture of the author princee
    No guarantee on Google in any, not in Adwords, Adsense and Google Search.

    Google keyword searches data is not perfect. You can get only idea about keyword monthly searches. We think that your keyword have 4k search per month. We cannot think that we will get 100% hits. Even if you ranked on 1st position then you can get only 30-40% hits on your site. That means 1200 hits per month and 40 hits per days. Now on 40 hits it is not necessary that visitors click on your Adsense ads. That is also depends on your Ads Placement.


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  • Profile picture of the author CesarWarrior
    I've just purchased Adsense 100K Blueprint. It's very inspiring! From what I've read so far, it seems I've gone about it all the wrong way. I need to scrap two of my sites but one of them has potential. I'm going to follow the Adsense blueprint and see how I get on. Is there anywhere on WF where I can start a blog? I have visions of me posting in 3mths time saying I'm making 2K pm with adsense
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  • Profile picture of the author perfect
    If you are getting enough traffic (as that is mean challenge in the industry) the less is minor, you need to reposition your adsense ads, try different positions, different colors and sizes, and track each test from there you can spot what works fine and keep on improving on that.
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