Advice on saving content when Unnatural Links warning received from Google

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Hi guys

I have a site that was an old one - I haven't touched it in 2 years - however I did plan on revamping the site and coming back to it.

Unfortunately like many sites in the last couple of weeks it seems to have received the "Unnatural Links" warning from within Google Webmaster Tools (puzzling though I haven't even built a link to it in 2 years - perhaps this is why).

Now there are 3 reviews on the site that are almost 5000 words long each (in addition to 20 other articles) and they are excellent reviews that I wanted to keep for my new site and I am going to rebuild the content for the new site around the 3 old reviews but now that this site has received this Unnatural links warning I am worried that any content on this site is now "poisoned" and useless.

The site hasn't been deindexed yet (but I imagine it will be in the next few weeks) so this is what I have done.....

- Deleted the site from Google webmaster tools
- Taken all the content down from the site and put up a "website under maintainence" type notice

This way when the site is de-indexed the 3 reviews that I wanted to keep won't be live on the site.

So my question is....

In the future when I rebuild the site with say 20-30 fresh new articles will the new site be fine when I upload the same text for the 3 reviews?

Ideally rewriting the 3 reviews would be the best but they are long and pretty much perfect the way they are and I don't want to lose them.

What do you think warriors?
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  • Profile picture of the author Pawprints34
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    • Profile picture of the author dmtaylor247
      I think it depends on what level you built links to it, if all of the links are from blog networks then it may be worth starting over, but if you did manual work and it was ranking decently then I would try and save it.

      If your looking to start again then I would just go right ahead and use the url removal tool in GWT and completely remove the site from the index, this means you need to re-add it to GWTs to do this but after you can delete the profile.

      Then take the content and add it to your new site with new domain. I wouldn't say that it's poisoned as such, it's just they didn't agree with the links you built that's all, the content has nothing to do with it

      Bearing in mind that Google are increasingly looking at and using author authority so the ranking of existing websites and new sites could be affected by your current circumstances not the content however, they could identify you as the same webmaster simply by tracking this content, but they would more than likely do it by simply using the same webmaster tools and analytics account.

      If you cocked it up good and proper and half your sites went down then it may be worth deleting the whole lot, including the Google analytics, webmaster tools and whole Google account and starting over, because you may have lost some trust there..

      It really depends on how serious you think this is? It's not like there aren't any second chances here, if you admit your wrong using the reconsideration tool and don't use the same practices then it could work out better for you like it has for so many other people, that's what this tool is there for.. but if you delete the profile and start again and they somehow know it's you then they could possibly see that as you blatantly ignoring their terms and continuing to spam the internet.

      Personally I would try and save the site, do things the right way - if it's a site that people find useful like you said then it's worth saving the domain and the content.
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  • Profile picture of the author Pawprints34
    Thanks for the comments. I never thought of it as being seen as spamming under a different domain if I reupload the content down the track.

    I do want to start again however with the site for a number of reasons. It is years old and it has always been one of those "I'll get around to that again projects" but I do want to do it completely different as far as site structure this time around.

    I'm thinking at this point of still starting the site again in the future with a different domain and structure and content and when I do upload the reviews I want to keep then just make some changes so it isn't exactly the same
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    • Profile picture of the author dmtaylor247
      Originally Posted by MikeAnders View Post

      Thanks for the comments. I never thought of it as being seen as spamming under a different domain if I reupload the content down the track.
      Hmm... Like I said in reality it's in Google's best interests not to look at a domain or content and try to gauge it's trust, they're looking at the person behind it, this is becoming more prevalent.

      Originally Posted by MikeAnders View Post

      I do want to start again however with the site for a number of reasons. It is years old and it has always been one of those "I'll get around to that again projects" but I do want to do it completely different as far as site structure this time around.

      I'm thinking at this point of still starting the site again in the future with a different domain and structure and content and when I do upload the reviews I want to keep then just make some changes so it isn't exactly the same
      Fair play.. at the end of the day I see no reason why they would penalise a new site, but as mentioned it may be affecting your webmaster tools and analytics account. As you said you have different reasons for wanting to start it over again, so at the end of the day it's what's your time worth?

      Many people have a different POV in these cases. Some say that they have just carried on and changed their practices and eventually things pan out for them. Others say that they submit a reconsideration request and their site comes back stronger, either way these things that affect you are never permanent, unless you have been completely deindexed.

      Some advise never to submit a reconsideration request unless you have been deindexed so with this in mind and your plans to re build the site new it may be worth your time just to go ahead and rebuild it. Maybe it's worth hanging on for 1/2 weeks to see what their decision is on your website? (whether or not they deindex it)
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  • Profile picture of the author Pawprints34
    Thanks for the ideas.

    I'll go ahead and rebuild it - I just wanted to get a 2nd opinion on whether using large options of those old reviews were a bad idea and since it hasn't been deindexed then I'll do that.

    I have deleted the site from GWT and taken down the site so they are welcome to deindex the domain if they want to. I just didn't want the content I wanted to keep to still be live when the deindexing axe finally falls and it won't be
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    • Profile picture of the author dmtaylor247
      Originally Posted by MikeAnders View Post

      Thanks for the ideas.

      I'll go ahead and rebuild it - I just wanted to get a 2nd opinion on whether using large options of those old reviews were a bad idea and since it hasn't been deindexed then I'll do that.

      I have deleted the site from GWT and taken down the site so they are welcome to deindex the domain if they want to. I just didn't want the content I wanted to keep to still be live when the deindexing axe finally falls and it won't be
      Yeah I'm pretty sure the content won't affect anything in this case, as long as you build the site up naturally and try and gain some trust with it you should be ok, good look.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dr.faizan
    At first you should not have deleted the site. If you rebuilt the site it will be like working on a website from scratch. You could have left it as it was for sometime.
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    • Profile picture of the author dmtaylor247
      Originally Posted by Dr.faizan View Post

      At first you should not have deleted the site. If you rebuilt the site it will be like working on a website from scratch. You could have left it as it was for sometime.
      I do agree with this, sometimes it pays to not be too hasty and hang on and see what happens. I've submitted sites before then deleted them in frustration only to find they have replied and said they was nothing wrong with it.
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