Google SUspends Adwords Account - Is this even legal?

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I have a health site. Yesterday I created a Adwords campaign for the site which has some affiliate links to an affiliate product pages. Google not only removed the campaign but suspended my whole account which employs several other website adwords campaigns. I deleted the campaign but they will not restore my account until I remove all the links from this website.



The reason being can no longer have links that take the visitors
off the web site to an affiliate saes page (or basically ANY external site except a payment page), per their "Bridge page" violation policy. So, ok I get the "no bridge page" violation.



HOWEVER, beyond their guidelines, even if you Remove the ad campaign and that particular website from all ad campaigns, , Google still insists the site Still be edited to meet their guidelines. IN other words, Google will not let you use that site with affiliate links if you want to advertise with a competitor like Bing. Else they will Still suspend your Adwords account indefinitely.

Sounds like an anti trust suit in the making. ???
#account #adwords #google #legal #suspends
  • Profile picture of the author nik0
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    Yep they can do whatever they want. It's all in their TOS most probably.
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    • Profile picture of the author kumarkunal
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by kumarkunal View Post

        You should not have run the Adwords Campaign for an Affiliate site as it is against their guidelines.
        Ugh. Where do you people get this stuff from???
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  • Profile picture of the author Gama Seva
    Sure thing, it's their service and you have to abide with their rules.
    They won't suspend you if you play by the rules.

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  • Profile picture of the author davezan
    Besides, unless what Google does violates any applicable law, that's as legal as you kicking
    out anyone from your premises who doesn't meet your "guidelines".
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    I don't know how they can get away with demanding you remove links from a site that is not being serviced by Adwords, but apparently, they think they can. Google needs a big spanking from Uncle Sam. They've gotten way to big for their pants.
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      I don't know how they can get away with demanding you remove links from a site that is not being serviced by Adwords, but apparently, they think they can. Google needs a big spanking from Uncle Sam. They've gotten way to big for their pants.
      Maybe because they're (Google) supplying the traffic & don't mind implementing quality control.

      No way in H would I send my traffic to a site/page that I personally didn't approve of, I value my repeat traffic & would like to keep them coming back.

      OP doesn't have to remove any links, they also don't have to be approved by Adwords. If OP doesn't like the Adwords TOS, find another PPC that doesn't value their traffic, plenty of them out there to pick from.
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        • Profile picture of the author nofearman
          Originally Posted by mrultra View Post

          But they aren't supplying the traffic to this site any more. That's the point. He is no longer advertising this site via adwords, but they're still demanding he make changes to THIS site that no longer has anything to do with adwords in order to be able to advertise his OTHER sites.
          BINGO! You get it. But, We're beginning to "sound like a broken record" having to repeat the scenario over and over for those who Don't get it. . :rolleyes:
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          • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
            Originally Posted by nofearman View Post

            BINGO! You get it. But, We're beginning to "sound like a broken record" having to repeat the scenario over and over for those who Don't get it. . :rolleyes:
            What you seem to be having problems understanding is that Google is well within its rights to make all the demands it wants regarding "any" site you own when it comes to allowing your participation as a webmaster in its programs.

            They are making a judgement of you as a webmaster based on your past and current level of guideline compliance, regardless of the site in question.

            It's sounds like it is you that "doesn't get it".
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      • Profile picture of the author nofearman
        Originally Posted by yukon View Post

        Maybe because they're (Google) supplying the traffic & don't mind implementing quality control.

        No way in H would I send my traffic to a site/page that I personally didn't approve of, I value my repeat traffic & would like to keep them coming back.

        OP doesn't have to remove any links, they also don't have to be approved by Adwords. If OP doesn't like the Adwords TOS, find another PPC that doesn't value their traffic, plenty of them out there to pick from.
        Some folks Still don't "get it".. Try reading the post a little Sloooower....
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        • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
          Originally Posted by nofearman View Post

          Some folks Still don't "get it".. Try reading the post a little Sloooower....
          We did read the post "Sloooower". Google is making its demands within the context of the AdWords program and it's Webmaster Guidelines.

          You are obviously free to do whatever you want with your site. Google, however, is also free to remove you from their index and prevent you from participating in their various programs.
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          • Profile picture of the author nofearman
            Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

            We did read the post "Sloooower". Google is making its demands within the context of the AdWords program and it's Webmaster Guidelines.

            You are obviously free to do whatever you want with your site. Google, however, is also free to remove you from their index and prevent you from participating in their various programs.
            From your response , NO you are NOT reading the post. Read it again. You'll get it eventually. Unbelievable...
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            • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
              Originally Posted by nofearman View Post

              From your response , NO you are NOT reading the post. Read it again. You'll get it eventually. Unbelievable...
              ? from what i read wolfmmiii gets it, it is you who has missed the boat and you it is you who needs to get it!

              Even though you have stopped using adwords on that site, it was black listed by giggle, the site is attached to your account and as such your account is suspended.

              Not raising the suspension has nothing to do with where your traffic is coming from now, it could be coming from carrier pigeons, it makes no difference.

              What giggle see's is your black listed site and the only way you can clear that site is to remove the links or as has been instructed, when you finally get that / and listen to what probably is one of the best affiliate marketers using adwords advises ( wolfmmiii ) you may then possibly get your account back.
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  • Profile picture of the author ashishaffiliate
    My account was suspended last year, its working again. ) remove the links and tell them to review the website again. I was suspended for the same reason, later i changed to capture leads and then send them affiliate offers via email follow-up
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    • Profile picture of the author nofearman
      Originally Posted by ashishaffiliate View Post

      My account was suspended last year, its working again. ) remove the links and tell them to review the website again. I was suspended for the same reason, later i changed to capture leads and then send them affiliate offers via email follow-up
      Thanks. I guess that's the best route. I get the TOS guidelines about removing outbound links, but, still bizarre they can dictate what to do with your website , even IF/AFTER you remove it from an Adword campaign.

      Kinda like Microsoft cancelling your Bing account if you use Firefox instead of IE...
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  • Profile picture of the author Tadresources
    Unfortunately they make the rules and everyone has to abide by them to use their services, regardless of how arbitrary it may seem.
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    • Profile picture of the author Elvis Michael
      Originally Posted by Tadresources View Post

      Unfortunately they make the rules and everyone has to abide by them to use their services, regardless of how arbitrary it may seem.
      What the OP is practically saying is that even after removing the Adwords campaign, Google is still telling him what to do with the website itself....despite not using anything related to Google (Adwords, Adsense, etc). Now they are crossing the line.
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      • Profile picture of the author mikefrommaine
        You can just create another google account and sign up again.
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        • Profile picture of the author nofearman
          Originally Posted by mikejmu View Post

          You can just create another google account and sign up again.
          Yes, the lesson I learned here is to create a separate account for new sites and not integrate with my primary account
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      • Profile picture of the author nofearman
        Originally Posted by Diablo2 View Post

        What the OP is practically saying is that even after removing the Adwords campaign, Google is still telling him what to do with the website itself....despite not using anything related to Google (Adwords, Adsense, etc). Now they are crossing the line.
        Yes, Someone "gets it" .. Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author AnnieHz
    I am waiting for the day G gets slapped themselves by the FTC and anti-trust regulations. Microsoft used to operate with impunity 15 years ago until the Feds sued them. Google is the Microsoft of the new millennium.
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    • Profile picture of the author nvs74191
      Hey, don't wish for that. Many of my sites' earnings will take a hit.

      Originally Posted by AnnieHz View Post

      I am waiting for the day G gets slapped themselves by the FTC and anti-trust regulations. Microsoft used to operate with impunity 15 years ago until the Feds sued them. Google is the Microsoft of the new millennium.
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  • Profile picture of the author gasman
    Unfortunately for you and many other Internet marketer, yes it is legal and yes they can do pretty much whatever they want because it is their product. It is not uncommon to have your adwords account suspended or dropped all together. It reminds me of Ebay where the rules are becoming almost impossible to adhere to. I would never put all my stock in any type of PPC for this reason.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kal Sallam
    yup they do whatever they want whenever they want..it's going to end tho,watch.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheArticlePros
    Actually, I'll go you one better. When I got into IM last year, I started a niche site for a flight simulator on CB. I built the site up, got a few good articles on it, built a Squidoo and Hub Page for it, the whole nine yards. Even a few Ezine Articles on it, too, all back-linked back to my main site.

    It wasn't getting much traffic, so I decided to cash in one of those nifty AdWords coupons that Host Gator mails out every so often...I designated $10 or so to it.

    I think it was 2 days later, Google emailed me and told me that my site violated their TOS for AdWords. I thought to myself, "Oh well, no harm in trying," and promptly cancelled the campaign. That was March 2011.

    May 2011 rolled around and I got an email from Google saying my account was temporarily suspended for violations. I hadn't used it in the 2 months in-between, and I had cancelled the campaign, but I was still violating their TOS. I couldn't remove the site from my AdWords dashboard because you have to have at least 1 site in there. I had also completely rebuilt the site as it never made any money so it had all videos and stuff about flight simulators.

    After 2 weeks, countless phone calls, and several emails (which I still have), Google told me I was suspended forever from AdWords and I could never have another account with them. All because I had closed down a campaign, at their insistence, that violated their TOS.

    Talk about a harsh learning experience.

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    • Profile picture of the author nofearman
      Originally Posted by JaRyCu View Post

      Actually, I'll go you one better. When I got into IM last year, I started a niche site for a flight simulator on CB. I built the site up, got a few good articles on it, built a Squidoo and Hub Page for it, the whole nine yards. Even a few Ezine Articles on it, too, all back-linked back to my main site.

      It wasn't getting much traffic, so I decided to cash in one of those nifty AdWords coupons that Host Gator mails out every so often...I designated $10 or so to it.

      I think it was 2 days later, Google emailed me and told me that my site violated their TOS for AdWords. I thought to myself, "Oh well, no harm in trying," and promptly cancelled the campaign. That was March 2011.

      May 2011 rolled around and I got an email from Google saying my account was temporarily suspended for violations. I hadn't used it in the 2 months in-between, and I had cancelled the campaign, but I was still violating their TOS. I couldn't remove the site from my AdWords dashboard because you have to have at least 1 site in there. I had also completely rebuilt the site as it never made any money so it had all videos and stuff about flight simulators.

      After 2 weeks, countless phone calls, and several emails (which I still have), Google told me I was suspended forever from AdWords and I could never have another account with them. All because I had closed down a campaign, at their insistence, that violated their TOS.

      Talk about a harsh learning experience.

      -- j
      Pretty much same scenario. But I did have more then one site in my campaign. SO I Deleted the "offending" site altogether. BUT, that wasn't enough Google.. STILL wanted me to remove all the links, regardless if I DELETED the site from Google Adwords. Gives one the impression Google is now the self-appointed Internet Police and they want ALL affiliate sites Off the internet.

      Funny how this was how Microsoft behaved when they got Too Big....
      In the end, today I created my first Bing account and moved all my ecommerce campaigns over there. Maybe a blessing in disguise as I have read numerous times that Bing traffic has much better quality conversions
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    Again. I did read it and I fully understand. It is you that does not. Please retread my previous post. If you want to use Goggle's products, you need to follow their rules.
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    • Profile picture of the author nofearman
      Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

      Again. I did read it and I fully understand. It is you that does not.

      ok, move on.....
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    Nah, that's ok. I think I'll stick around. I can't have people giving out bad advice regarding Adwords.
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    • Profile picture of the author nofearman
      Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

      Nah, that's ok. I think I'll stick around. I can't have people giving out bad advice regarding Adwords.
      :rolleyes: Wow! no comment....
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