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Working on a penalized site, well actually page

by nik0 Banned
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Before the latest update on the 24th I was working on a site or actual page that had about 200 links from High PR society. Then the network got deindexed and the page falled back from the top of page 2 to bottom page 3.

Since this page was pretty important to my client we decided to rent some strong homepage links, not the ones with 50 links to all kind of sites, nope max 10 homepage links per site. A week after the links were placed the page dropped to page 8. Then I applied my "secret sauce" method and the page dropped even harder.

After some thinking we decided to rename the url of that page (inspired by Yukon ) and did nothing else then apply my method on it. Page started to rank again and within 4 days it showed up at #2. 3-4 weeks later it's still there.

Kind of proofs that Google has site wide penalties and page-only penalties.

We used the exact same content btw and didn't do any 301 redirect (as that would make it only worse).
#page #penalized #site #working
  • Profile picture of the author Chris-
    interesting points, thanks

    Chris
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

    Before the latest update on the 24th I was working on a site or actual page that had about 200 links from High PR society. Then the network got deindexed and the page falled back from the top of page 2 to bottom page 3.

    Since this page was pretty important to my client we decided to rent some strong homepage links, not the ones with 50 links to all kind of sites, nope max 10 homepage links per site. A week after the links were placed the page dropped to page 8. Then I applied my "secret sauce" method and the page dropped even harder.

    After some thinking we decided to rename the url of that page and did nothing else then apply my method on it. Page started to rank again and within 4 days it showed up at #2. 3-4 weeks later it's still there.

    Kind of proofs that Google has site wide penalties and page-only penalties.

    We used the exact same content btw and didn't do any 301 redirect (as that would make it only worse).
    That's funny because changing the URL was exactly what I suggested for people to do when they got the Google Webmaster Tools backlink warning message.

    Anyways, good job on the ranked page.

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    Found the old forum post (source):



    Here is what I would do before making any big decisions.

    First I would test If building new quality links will bring back the SERP rank on an existing easy to rank keyword/page.

    If the fresh quality backlinks don't work, take an easy to rank keyword that you once ranked in Google SERPs in the past. The easier the existing keyword phrase, the faster you'll see If your testing works.

    1) Save the existing easy to rank article/content (single page) to your desktop (txt file).

    2) Delete the old web page & make sure it's removed from Google SERPs. Make sure to save the deleted URL/keyword phrase & make sure you have proof that the page is removed from the SERPs.

    3) Once the old page is deindexed/removed from the SERPs, create a new web page with a slightly different URL than the old URL, make sure the new URL doesn't have the same URL someplace on the existing site.

    4) Paste the old article/content into the new web page.

    5) Hand build a few quality links to get Google looking at the new URL.

    6) Keep an eye on Google SERPs for that specific keyword phrase.

    The point here is to test If changing the URL will let you salvage the old content & keep that old content on the same domain while ranking again in Google SERPs.

    Also, don't mess around with any messages in GWT, especially while doing any testing.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      That's funny because changing the URL was exactly what I suggested for people to do when they got the Google Webmaster Tools backlink warning message.

      Anyways, good job on the ranked page.

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      Found the old forum post (source):
      Sorry I didnt mention you but I got inspired by you indeed, like you said: The point it to test if Google allows the old content to rank, and I tested it and it does. Thanks! (Updated OP)

      I skipped a few of your points though, we didn't wait till the old one was deindexed, we simply just renamed the url and the link from the homepage that lead to that page.
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        Sorry I didnt mention you but I got inspired by you indeed, like you said: The point it to test if Google allows the old content to rank, and I tested it and it does. Thanks! (Updated OP)

        I skipped a few of your points though, we didn't wait till the old one was deindexed, we simply just renamed the url and the link from the homepage that lead to that page.
        I wasn't suggesting you got the idea from me, I meant I haven't seen anyone actually do any testing on the new URL idea.

        I never got the backlink message in GWT & wanted to see If anyone would do those steps I listed in order to get the content ranked a 2nd time in the SERPs. I'm not sure If anyone actually tested a new URL in the old thread?
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          I wasn't suggesting you got the idea from me, I meant I haven't seen anyone actually do any testing on the new URL idea.

          I never got the backlink message in GWT & wanted to see If anyone would do those steps I listed in order to get the content ranked a 2nd time in the SERPs. I'm not sure If anyone actually tested a new URL in the old thread?
          Haha okay, this is an internet marketing forum, don't expect people to take action :p

          I never got the GWT message either and neither did my client on who's site I tested this.
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  • Profile picture of the author plsearch
    Interesting, I have a site that has a similar issue. Certain pages still rank great, though all keywords have dropped a bit. But then certain page dropped several pages deep, that were #1. I was thinking of changing the URL and not redirecting.

    When you said you used your method, did you mean the paid links you found before?
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by plsearch View Post

      Interesting, I have a site that has a similar issue. Certain pages still rank great, though all keywords have dropped a bit. But then certain page dropped several pages deep, that were #1. I was thinking of changing the URL and not redirecting.

      When you said you used your method, did you mean the paid links you found before?
      No we didn't use the paid links this time, I applied my "secret sauce" package.

      Someone else asked what's in it, well I keep it to myself cause people will heavily abuse it and then sites will take measures which makes it impossible in the future.
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  • Profile picture of the author sackboy127
    Nice tip, thanks! I also have a website that's lost almost 50% of its traffic, because the inner pages have dropped in the SERPs, while the homepage remained intact. Will try this with a few of the pages!
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  • Profile picture of the author tomek
    What is your "secret sauce" method?
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  • Profile picture of the author extremejava
    one can de-index whole website by using robots.txt and then change the website before resubmitting sitemap to google.
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  • Profile picture of the author marketwarrior06
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    Yes its true.
    That's why i always tell people that they should not continue SEO in the affected site. Building a new one and the working with it from beginning will be easier and also effective.
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  • Profile picture of the author Vexo
    I am very interested to see if this same method would work with the new update.
    Anybody trying it at the moment ?
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  • Profile picture of the author GetSomeDollar
    Random question:

    My online store was hit bad by the 24th update. I've been researching trying to figure out what happend. It occured to me after that I have multiple cloaked re-direct domains from years ago pointing to the main site (I.e, there are 3 urls listed in google for the same site, I COMPLETELY forgot about these) I have a feeling google doesn't like this and I was wondering if anyone knew what the best thing to do is.

    Thanks
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