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forum links

by ian a birch
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Just read this?
" Out-of-context links will be discounted. If you post on an SEO forum, but your sig-link says, "limo services chicago", then much of the link-juice will be discounted as unnatural"
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  • Profile picture of the author TheProgrammer
    Originally Posted by ian a birch View Post

    Just read this?
    " Out-of-context links will be discounted. If you post on an SEO forum, but your sig-link says, "limo services chicago", then much of the link-juice will be discounted as unnatural"
    Where is the authority on that?
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  • Profile picture of the author ian a birch
    Hi this is what i was sent.

    By: C0ldf1re

    Google's algorithm has had another update, code-named Penguin. Why? Google's Spamfuhrer, Matt Cutts, explains in a blog post. Ahhh! To improve quality. Needn't have bothered reading that, need we? It is what he always says.

    What are the effects of Penguin on link-builders? Apparently:

    1. Too much anchor-text optimisation will be discounted. If all of your inbound links have the anchor text, "real estate new york", then some of the link-juice will be discounted as unnatural.

    2. Out-of-context links will be discounted. If you post on an SEO forum, but your sig-link says, "limo services chicago", then much of the link-juice will be discounted as unnatural.

    Will this signal the demise of spam on this forum? Perhaps, in time.

    Has anybody noticed their websites moving down in serps? (Mine have all stayed in place, or improved.)
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    • Profile picture of the author TheProgrammer
      Originally Posted by ian a birch View Post

      Hi this is what i was sent.

      By: C0ldf1re

      Google's algorithm has had another update, code-named Penguin. Why? Google's Spamfuhrer, Matt Cutts, explains in a blog post. Ahhh! To improve quality. Needn't have bothered reading that, need we? It is what he always says.

      What are the effects of Penguin on link-builders? Apparently:

      1. Too much anchor-text optimisation will be discounted. If all of your inbound links have the anchor text, "real estate new york", then some of the link-juice will be discounted as unnatural.

      2. Out-of-context links will be discounted. If you post on an SEO forum, but your sig-link says, "limo services chicago", then much of the link-juice will be discounted as unnatural.

      Will this signal the demise of spam on this forum? Perhaps, in time.

      Has anybody noticed their websites moving down in serps? (Mine have all stayed in place, or improved.)
      Forum signatures are not there for link juice they pass very little juice, no more then a blog comment. Why because they are too easy to gain. Anyone can add a signature link, it is a no brainer. In most cases, the harder it is to get the link the better the link will be.

      Forum signatures are also in the gray area, if you use the same exact keyword phrase on 10 forums you might get the google webmaster email followed by a loss in rankings.

      There are 200 ranking factors forum links are at the bottom of the food chain.

      When you buy a car do you debate on which car you want based on the wipers?
      The wipers on you car are about as valuable as forum links they might help if assembled correctly, but only on a rainy day.
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  • Profile picture of the author Pyramid Linkers
    That actually makes a lot of sense. Forum signatures are some of the easy links to get. Forum spam is some of the most annoying forms of spam out there. If you've ever seen a random comment in a forum thread so a person can leave their signature, then you know what I mean. There are a lot of other great opportunities out there though. Its easy enough to create on-topic blog posts on on-topic sites and get a significant amount of link juice for your efforts.
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  • Profile picture of the author triobacklinkbuilder
    TheProgrammer hats off ..

    Icon post ........
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  • Profile picture of the author Stuart william
    According to me its better to post on relevant forum, you can get decent amount of traffic and backlink but in webmaster forum you cant get relevant traffic from forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author codecreative
    To be honest it depends on your strength of competition you ranking against. Don't knock forum signature backlinks I know of people who have got to page one from just a few in low comp areas. It depends on your situation and cirumstances
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  • Profile picture of the author HorseStall
    I think relevant forums are useful if related to the signature. I personally have not seen any negative reprcussions from unrelated forum links.
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  • Profile picture of the author RobinJ
    Originally Posted by ian a birch View Post

    Just read this?
    " Out-of-context links will be discounted. If you post on an SEO forum, but your sig-link says, "limo services chicago", then much of the link-juice will be discounted as unnatural"
    I am agree with it but not fully agree. Forum links do have impact not huge but they are count as backlink. If post on relevant forum that is more good but irrelevant links are still countable with low link juice.
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  • Profile picture of the author bswanson
    What I really don't understand is this...

    Google claims they want you to create great content that people TALK about, creating natural back-links back to your website and / or content. One of the most common mediums of discussion is a forum. Can Google really differentiate a profile link from a link that someone naturally posted in their post...?

    Just searching, people have created many threads about my business, giving me natural back-links in various forums that had NOTHING to do with my core business. How could Google possibly discount these as "spam" or "un-natrual" when this is the exact type of back-link they claim that they want webmasters to receive? Makes no sense.

    My only logical conclusion is that forum links may not provide a ton of "juice", but they certainly can't harm you either unless they are extremely blatant spam.
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  • Profile picture of the author msu
    bswanson, the thing is the links forums users have given you in "various forms" are natural because they are varied. The users will be using different link text, just a straight url, linking to different pages, etc.. That looks natural and Google will think that's ok.

    What doesn't look natural - and is very easy to detect - is thousands of links on several different forums that all use exactly the same link text.
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    • Profile picture of the author bswanson
      Originally Posted by msu View Post

      the thing is the links forums users have given you in "various forms" are natural because they are varied. The users will be using different link text, just a straight url, linking to different pages, etc.. That looks natural and Google will think that's ok.

      What doesn't look natural - and is very easy to detect - is thousands of links on several different forums that all use exactly the same link text.
      But this sounds like an issue that's universal... not just limited to forums. If you don't vary your anchor text, what does it matter if it's a forum, a blog, an article directory, a directory submission, etc.?
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  • Profile picture of the author ian a birch
    so what forums should we link too?i understand forums with-in your niche are better but does it pay to post links in forums that are non related to your niche ,ie you are a website designer but have an interest in parrots,is it worth putting your signature/link in that forum?
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  • Profile picture of the author gearmonkey
    "then much of the link-juice will be discounted"

    So 'much' of it will be discounted, but some of it will be counted? Might still be the effort. If you are going to post on the forum anyhow, may as well have a link in your signature. Especially if it gets clicks by other forum members. My links gets many hits per day.
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