Penguin & All in One SEO Pack

12 years ago

You can know if you try. I'm not using All in One Seo but using Wordpress seo yoast. But, still got hit. Also search result is still weird now, you will see many of junk sites on page one. Using all in one seo is not considered as over-optimization. it's a plugin to help seo depends on how to use it.

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kochtgr

12 years ago

Originally Posted by derprinz

I am using All in One SEO Pack on all of my wordpress websites
they all got hit
Do you think that deleting this great help may help in getting back
is using such plugins considered as over-optimization ?

I don't believe that All in One SEO Pack would cause any kind of problem, it's the content that matters, If you have a high keyword density on your posts then this might be the problem...

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roger123

12 years ago

Originally Posted by kochtgr

I don't believe that All in One SEO Pack would cause any kind of problem, it's the content that matters, If you have a high keyword density on your posts then this might be the problem...

It's all BS given by Matt Cutts .. check this site applebeescouponsnow.net ranking on the first page of Google for the keyword phrase 'applebees coupons' .. it has a few shady pages which are stuffed with the keyword 'applebees coupons' .. Does Google has any explanation for such rankings? It's weird. If Google does not rollback this penguin update, users will lose trust in their rankings and Google will die its natural death.

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addaminsane

12 years ago

Its possible, but most speculation is that penguin is majorly about backlinking profiles: http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...-analysis.html

Matt Cutts has talked about encouraging on page seo factors several times so many argue that over-optimization of on page factors are not likely the result of any percieved penalties people may see.

If this is the case, one would think there would be some sort of balancing roll back to this metric in the near future. Thus, all-in-one seo type plugins should be okay. If not, im sure that in the immediate future we'll also see adjustments made to these type of plugins.

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Stuart william

12 years ago

Check your webmaster and analytics to know the reason behind drop in ranking. If your website was affected on 19th then your website was hit by Google panda or affected on 24th then Google penguin was the reason. Check the quality of content and update your content with less keyword dense content.

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Leo Wadsworth

12 years ago

The kind of gentle Google-friendly SEO of the All in One SEO Pack does is not going to give you any problems.

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mosthost 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Leo Wadsworth

The kind of gentle Google-friendly SEO of the All in One SEO Pack does is not going to give you any problems.

That 'gentle SEO' sort of over-optimizes things a bit, though. You end up with keyword stuffed URLs etc.

Alone it really shouldn't be a problem, but combined with a dodgy backlink profile, you might run into trouble.
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Leo Wadsworth

12 years ago

You only end up with keyword "stuffed" URLs if you stuff keywords in your page titles. One mention of the appropriate keyword in each place is fine. You shouldn't be putting more than one in either place right now.

I agree -- a dodgy backlink profile might make Google more sensitive in general. But NOBODY has a dodgy backlink profile right?

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codecreative

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Leo Wadsworth

You only end up with keyword "stuffed" URLs if you stuff keywords in your page titles. One mention of the appropriate keyword in each place is fine. You shouldn't be putting more than one in either place right now.

I agree -- a dodgy backlink profile might make Google more sensitive in general. But NOBODY has a dodgy backlink profile right?

lol suuuuuuuure no body does

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OneManSEO

12 years ago

The plugin has NOTHING to do with your hit. Look for another aspect of your sites that are similar - specifically, the backlinks you've built to them and the actual content within those backlinks.

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TheProgrammer

12 years ago

I am using this plugin from the last 40days days and have had no issue with it and also my site ranking getting better day by day.

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Theeban

12 years ago

Even I am using that to my sites, I had got my ranks improved for one site. I really do not that that is the issue. However, make sure that you are not using too much of keywords in title, meta description tags. If so, you have to take care of it, Usually your title tag has to say your company name + service (one word is fine, ex: plumbers, Roofers etc) + Local area (If you are servicing to your local area, possibly a city name)
Example title may be : XYZABC Plumbers London

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dabbler

12 years ago

I wouldn't make any changes based on what google results look like right now. The SERP's are still in ridiculous land. Wait for them to shake out and settle down.

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addaminsane

12 years ago

Originally Posted by dabbler

I wouldn't make any changes based on what google results look like right now. The SERP's are still in ridiculous land. Wait for them to shake out and settle down.

The idea, that this update was poorly done and will rollback in a way that makes results just like they were before is pure speculation.

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skid106 12 years ago

Originally Posted by addaminsane

The idea, that this update was poorly done and will rollback in a way that makes results just like they were before is pure speculation.

Do you think Google is happy with what it's seeing in the search results then ?
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cooler1

12 years ago

Originally Posted by addaminsane

The idea, that this update was poorly done and will rollback in a way that makes results just like they were before is pure speculation.

Some people reckon Google are too stubborn to admit they messed up with this update. The SERPs still look like a diaster zone, but they probably have the next update already planned so definalty can't see a rollback occuring.

I don't know what they can do from here because many webmasters who have built good quality sites which deserve high rankings, have promoted their sites via backlinks so I think Google needs to make the next Penguin update less severe. Punish spam sites and overly aggressive linking, but not those who promoted their site reasonably. This horrible update has gone way overboard.

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addaminsane

12 years ago

Originally Posted by cooler1

Some people reckon Google are too stubborn to admit they messed up with this update. The SERPs still look like a diaster zone, but they probably have the next update already planned so definalty can't see a rollback occuring.

I don't know what they can do from here because many webmasters who have built good quality sites which deserve high rankings, have promoted their sites via backlinks so I think Google needs to make the next Penguin update less severe. Punish spam sites and overly aggressive linking, but not those who promoted their site reasonably. This horrible update has gone way overboard.

Its understandable that many types of webmasters and several different types of niches may be returning slightly less quality serps on the first page.

However, This isn't a huge concern for google, especially when you factor in that most serps are fillled with google adwords, particularly in any type of SERP that has to do with marketing or affiliation and such. The more searchers that click on the relevant links that people pay for, the more money google is making through its search engine.

For a majority of queries we are more likely to see articles from the old money authority websites also.

You have to think outside the box and realize that all of the complaining is coming from those who optimize their home pages for high traffic two to three word phrases. Not the general public.

In fact, lots of the general public nowadays are pretty savvy about finding what they want on the web. if google isn't cutting it for a query, they go elsewhere or search through social bookmarking sites.

The notion that people are still dumb and need great results on page 1 to find what they are looking for is conventional thinking and holding alot of webmaster back from moving forward and adapting to the future of seo.

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skid106

12 years ago

On another forum, someone started a thread about Yoast plug-in (which I'm also using). His sites had tanked. He de-activated the plug-in. The sites were restored a few hours later ?

Co-incidence ? Maybe. Maybe not.

All I can say is there are a lot of people getting ranked at the moment for words that are not even on those pages. I have a multi product review site and target the product name / model number as the keyword. But search in google for those brands / models and go to P4 and you will see a totally different URL of my site offering a different brand of the same product.

Either Google has gone totally mad, or the SEO-type plug-ins (all-in-one / Yoast etc) are suddenly not giving Google the correct information ??

Is that what google wants for its customers ?