Congratz To Google For Garbage Results

Wow, well with the results I'm seeing, especially the virus-filled pages I'm glad some of the public is taking notice.

Wow, how much did Microsoft pay off the Education Secretary! What a great promotional technique if they did!

Google thinks they can slap IMers around, but I think they are underestimating the influence of this "tiny" group.

When Google is more interested in punishing people rather than upholding its previous standards in search and being so arrogant about it, it's time for IMers everywhere hit by Google to remove their support for Google.

A lot of bloggers/IMers have been sucking up to Google for a long time already. It's time to collectively remove that support.

Some examples. The comments are very telling.

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Search metrics have proven this update was much bigger than Panda because of its scale of impact....probably one of the biggest if not the biggest update ever in Google's history.

http://www.seomoz.org/blog/penguins-...nic-at-the-zoo

This is really shocking!! So with such developments on Google, do you think their keyword tool is reliable anymore? if not, what alternative would you recommend?

And this worries me for a different reason entirely.

I'm sitting here doing keyword research and checking the competition. Every time I examine the results pages I'm asking myself how skewed they are. When will they be where they are going stay? How long should I wait before I can safely assume the update is done?? AHHH! I'm making myself insane here this morning.

Seeing as how some of my sites are still bouncing around -- one of my keywords has come back from oblivion to page 2, not page 1 where it was for the last few years, but I'm not giving up hope -- I'll wait and see.

Or should I just move ahead? Should I stay or should I go??

I'm going to get myself another coffee.

ok and when google has finished the update and no longer offers an inferior product we can talk about it, but until then the OP is 100% correct their results are garbage.

BTW isnt complaining about people discussing well documented issues whining also?

I never suggested posting your website or keywords. I just said post some examples of things you are seeing that validates that "the penguin update has to be the biggest failure in quality results I've ever seen."

People said the same thing after Florida, Big Daddy, Caffeine, Panda, etc.

If we look at specific examples across the SERPs, people may find some rhyme or reason behind what is going on.

If all you want to do is point out that your niche got hit... well there are plenty of threads of that sort already started. There is nothing to be gained by simply adding another to the forum.

Oh, well that's nice.

Oh wait, so we are doing the traditional back and forth that you just said you wouldn't in the last sentence? Cool beans. Let's do this thing.

I've observed multiple Google updates as well. The rankings fluctuate and are far from ideal for a couple of weeks at least before things settle down.

You are basing "the total tanking of legitimate websites on a massive scale" on nothing more than one website and one keyword ranking that dropped. What's more, it is your website. So maybe you think it is legitimate. Doesn't mean it is though. So forgive if me if I'm calling ignorance and bias here.

Aimed at you and the collective groups who have been screaming like banshees since the update rolled out. I've yet to see one person clarify "serious issues in the SERPs" with anything more than "Well...my website got hit so it must be bad!"

As the other poster in this thread said, until people start showing objective (meaning not your website) cases where things are completely f***ed, no one is going to take you seriously.

I'll also point out that the average Google user has yet to make a peep about "devastated results", it's only been IMers who have had their sites hit. So, take that for what it is worth.

At the end of the day, this is what this update is really about. Mike hit the nail on the head. It's just a bunch of people who thought they were doing SEO learning that they weren't at all. Sucks for them; but it's been a little over a week already and we are tired of hearing them whine about it.

For me anyway, I would care even if I wasn't hit. This update makes me realize that relying on Google traffic is like building a house on quicksand; you never know when it's going to disappear.

That said, almost everyone with multiple sites was impacted, at least for some of their sites. Very few went unscathed.

That is the difference this time compared with all the other updates.

saying their results are garbage when this is a well documented issue is not saying that he needs to be pleased

Google service is NOT free they consume boith content and bandwidth both of which the op pays for, in return they send traffic this is an excange and definately not free.

I lost a whopping 3% of my income which i made up already elsewhere and i am flat out saying their results are garbage

Some people just cannot admt that google is fallable, we call them fanboys

Just because someone disagrees with your premise does not make them a troll.

But still no examples to back this up.

Google is never going to have a 100% open line of communication with webmasters about building good results. It's their business. They do not need our input. Plus, they are not going to want to give away too many ranking secrets. That just opens the doors even more for people to find ways to manipulate the rankings.

Google is a business, plain and simple. I cannot even imagine how many people fill out those "little forms" and submit them on a daily basis. To be honest, it would probably be unwise for them to hire enough staff to track down every little complaint about sites. It would cost far too much. So for the most part, I would imagine they devote their staff to tracking down the big ones that matter most.

And the problem with everyone's conspiracy theories about pushing people to PPC is that for every site that drops in rankings, other sites take their place. Who is to say that a site that moves up and now has a very favorable ranking wasn't an existing AdWords customer that previously struggled to get good rankings but now decides they are getting enough free traffic that they do not need to continue paying for ads? So if Google wanted to manipulate the rankings as you say in order to push for more people to spend on PPC, wouldn't they stand to potentially lose as many AdWords clients as they gain?

The majority of people that lost rankings were internet marketers, and not offline physical businesses. Let's be honest. Most internet marketers are notoriously cheap. They do not want to spend money on building a business. That is what attracts many of them to internet marketing in the first place. They hear all these promises of making heaps of cash with out having to spend a dime. I do not think they are all going to go running towards AdWords now.

Me too because I cannot find any.

How about build a business that doesn't rely 100% on Google traffic and maybe you wont have to come here and cry every time there is an algorithm update.

I feel dumber for reading this.

Finally someone with an actual example and not just crying about their own site. Thank you for that.

I would agree that the results in that search are not particularly helpful. One thing I would point out though is that "buy new pants" receives less than 10 searches a month globally, therefore I highly doubt anyone is really trying to optimize their sites or pages to receive traffic from that keyword.

I'm not saying that to justify the results. However, most of the pages in the results have 0 links pointing at them, and although how links are viewed may have changed, links are still the overriding factor for rankings.