Anyone Doing Web 2.0 SEO For Foreign Websites?

by zannix
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Hi Warriors,

Is any one of you doing SEO by building web 2.0 SEO for foreign websites (in foreign language) and which web 2.0 blogs do you use for this? Cause many of them approve articles only in english...

Thank you!
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeWike
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    • Profile picture of the author zannix
      Haha. That never occured to me - I'm so stupid. There are a few blog platforms in my country (Croatia), they're around PR5 (root domain) which I nice I guess, however there are only 3 or 4.

      There have to be some worldwide web 2.0 websites which allow foreign content, are there not? :O
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  • Profile picture of the author Duy Nguyen
    This is my main concern as well Although I think when a site clearly states that they allow users to create free websites or blogs, they must allow users to create the sites in their languages as well not just English. But that's just my opinion. And to be honest, I have never glanced at any TOS on any Web 2.0 sites that I have accounts on.
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  • Profile picture of the author Duy Nguyen
    OK, so I've taken a few minutes to go through the TOS of some big Web 2.0 sites that allow us to create free blogs or websites. I'm talking about Webnode, Webs, Posterous, Jimdo, Yola, etc. And all of them have no points in their TOS talking about the language of the sites we create.

    The most notable thing I saw there was they have the rights to remove content that violates their TOS such as porn, racist, vulgar, copy rights, hacking, virus uploading, etc. But not one of them state that they only allow sites to be created in English. That means we can create sites in our native languages as well. And they said it's our duty to remove the content that is not suitable (porn, racist, etc)

    So Zannix, I think that is possible for us to create sites with foreign languages. Just make sure the content will not violate the things above. You can go and read the TOS yourself.

    But I still need some one else who has deeper knowledge on this subject to investigate more

    Hope that helps.
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    • Profile picture of the author zannix
      Originally Posted by Duy Nguyen View Post

      OK, so I've taken a few minutes to go through the TOS of some big Web 2.0 sites that allow us to create free blogs or websites. I'm talking about Webnode, Webs, Posterous, Jimdo, Yola, etc. And all of them have no points in their TOS talking about the language of the sites we create.

      The most notable thing I saw there was they have the rights to remove content that violates their TOS such as porn, racist, vulgar, copy rights, hacking, virus uploading, etc. But not one of them state that they only allow sites to be created in English. That means we can create sites in our native languages as well. And they said it's our duty to remove the content that is not suitable (porn, racist, etc)

      So Zannix, I think that is possible for us to create sites with foreign languages. Just make sure the content will not violate the things above. You can go and read the TOS yourself.

      But I still need some one else who has deeper knowledge on this subject to investigate more

      Hope that helps.
      I couldn't have asked for a better answer. Thank you, Duy.
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      • Profile picture of the author Duy Nguyen
        Originally Posted by zannix View Post

        I couldn't have asked for a better answer. Thank you, Duy.
        No problem buddy It's my concern as well so I think it's good to do a little investigation.

        But I think the best way to know is to actually go and ask. I've fired a support message to Posterous support team to ask about this subject. Hope I could receive the answer soon. I will post it here for people who want to know.

        Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author faysal969
    Blogger, wordpress.com, sqidoo, hubpage, etc. are good property web 2.0 sites for doing that type of work.
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    • Profile picture of the author Duy Nguyen
      Originally Posted by faysal969 View Post

      Blogger, wordpress.com, sqidoo, hubpage, etc. are good property web 2.0 sites for doing that type of work.
      Blogger and Wordpress are good choices. I've seen many free Vietnamese blogs hosted on them.

      But Squidoo and Hubpage, I doubt that :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author Duy Nguyen
    Hey Zannix,

    So far I haven't received any reply back from Posterous. I think they might be busy with other paid customers than free members like me But anyway, in the last few days, I've built many free blogs on many Web 2.0 sites and there is nothing to worry about. I can say that they're completely fine with other languages.

    I've seen some Vietnamese blogs on Posterous as well

    So, it's good to go now. Just make sure that your content is going right with their TOS which is no porn, racist, hacking, copyright, etc.

    Hope it helps!
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    • Profile picture of the author zannix
      Of course man, that's great! You know you've really made me feel like a lazy c*nt - I should have checked that myself instead of waiting for people on WF to do it for me. I really appreciate your effort, this should make SEO a bit safer now.

      One more thing, when you build your web 2.0s (which point to your money site), how do you build 2nd tier links to them in a way that they don't outrank your own website in the SERPs?

      Lol this may be funny to some, but it can happen in local SEO, and it can happen very easily indeed. If you're careful with building links to your website and you're building mass backlinks to enforce them (with anchors related to your site), there's a chance some of them may bypass penguin and actually outrank you - isn't there?

      Would like to know your opinion on this, Duy.

      Zannix
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      • Profile picture of the author Duy Nguyen
        In understand the concern Zannix. And in fact there are two ways to look at this situation.

        Some people argue that it's safe to have some Web 2.0 sites in the top 10 along with your main site as they will hep you kick out some competitors. You know it, although the Web 2.0 is outranking you, it's of your own benefit And eventually, if you keep building links to your main site, it will come to the top and bypass your Web 2.0!

        The other opinion says that it's good to build links with "generic" anchor texts such as "read this guide," "click here," "find out more," etc from your 3rd tier links to your 2nd tier links (which are your Web 2.0) so that they will never compete directly with your money site. And this is what I'm doing

        To be honest, I'm trying to rank a new affiliate site of mine with the 2nd method but the result so far is not that great.

        My site is nowhere to be seen for all of my chosen keywords. Don't know why it happened as my site only has a dozen of links from some article directories, a few directory submissions, and these Web 2.0 sites. Nothing spammy here (at least according to my observation) yet I still feel like my site is suffering from a penalty or something :confused: This penguin is totally nuts!
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        • Profile picture of the author zannix
          Same thing here, Duy. I'm trying to rank a site locally and after it's been indexed it's been sitting pretty at #12, but then I've built like 1 high PR blog comment link to it (from a national blog) and it's vanished. I haven't built any links to it since. It's indexed and everything, if I type it in quotes, it comes up on the front page, it also comes up if I copy>paste the sentence off my site and paste it in Google, but not for the keyword I've built that 1 link for (and yes it was exact anchor match, but so what? 1 link? come on, Google). I guess we're "sandboxed" or something.
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          • Profile picture of the author Duy Nguyen
            Originally Posted by zannix View Post

            Same thing here, Duy. I'm trying to rank a site locally and after it's been indexed it's been sitting pretty at #12, but then I've built like 1 high PR blog comment link to it (from a national blog) and it's vanished. I haven't built any links to it since. It's indexed and everything, if I type it in quotes, it comes up on the front page, it also comes up if I copy>paste the sentence off my site and paste it in Google, but not for the keyword I've built that 1 link for (and yes it was exact anchor match, but so what? 1 link? come on, Google). I guess we're "sandboxed" or something.
            Yeah, that's mind blowing, isn't it When I first saw some people here succeeded at doing it, I was so eager to implement it to my own situation.

            And as I'm working for an SEO firm here in Viet Nam, I thought if I succeeded at implement it to my own site, I would implement it to all of my client sites as well because the local competition here will never be as tough as on Google.com But I think it hasn't turned out that way.

            However, I think we should alter the strategy a little bit to fit our situations rather than crying how unfair life is What I would do next with my own site is to continue build links to it and see what would happen.
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            • Profile picture of the author zannix
              I think there's no reason to worry, it's most probably the "young site" syndrome. Anyhow, with the next local site I build, since the competition is so frikkin low, I'm going to let the on-page SEO do its job to see how far up it can get. Then I'll give it small pushes with authority social bookmarks. Slowly and carefully
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  • Profile picture of the author Hearn
    Posterous is no follow. Also Squidoo works great in any language if you get your lens indexed.
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    • Profile picture of the author zannix
      Originally Posted by Hearn View Post

      Posterous is no follow. Also Squidoo works great in any language if you get your lens indexed.
      There has been a test conducted, a while ago, about nofollow vs dofollow. They've only built nofollow anchored links to a website and the website increased its rankings for those keywords (although none of the on-page SEO was set up for the keyword) - conclusion: nofollow does indeed carry SEO benefits.
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  • Profile picture of the author JoshN
    I've used Web 2.0s in the country I'm looking to target to get better ranking there. I've always just posted in english and it wasn't a problem
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