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12 years ago

I really hope they do something to correct that. Google should just discount the links it doesn't like rather than penalizing the sites that the links point to. It's crazy that anyone with $5 in their pocket can remove a competitor's web site from the serps.

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GeorgR.

12 years ago

True, but i don't think that Google is even remotely interested in this.

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JSProjects 12 years ago

Originally Posted by GeorgR.

True, but i don't think that Google is even remotely interested in this.

These types of links don't really harm the "big boys." Seems like Google doesn't really care about the small fish.
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- yukon Banned 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by JSProjects
  
  These types of links don't really harm the "big boys." Seems like Google doesn't really care about the small fish.
  
  Because the small fish settle for ranking a single page per keyword 99.9% of the time.
  
  Large sites rank multiple pages per keyword.
  
  I've explained this plenty times on this forum, but the average Joe is content with ranking a single weak page in the SERPs then moving on to the next keyword.
  
  A single ranked page with no support will eventually fail in the SERPs, it's just a matter of time.
  
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hacktheworld

12 years ago

The Penguin Update is All about WebSpam.Work on your Content.

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lukedidit 12 years ago

Originally Posted by hacktheworld

The Penguin Update is All about WebSpam.Work on your Content.

Did you even read what OP said?
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- honestbiz 12 years ago
  
  There is a reason why Google is allowing all this now. Yes, IM that relies on them for traffic is going to die a slow death (or is it a fast death?).
  
  They are going to introduce the Knowledge Graph and weasel their way into search now. They are trying to gain more and more CONTROL over information (this includes giving govt, edu, big business, and big domains prominence). Consolidation is the word.
  
  They will encourage negative SEO to flourish and let the small folks who are still left to destroy each other. We are seeing this now....
  
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GeorgR. 12 years ago

Originally Posted by hacktheworld

The Penguin Update is All about WebSpam.Work on your Content.

Are you guys getting paid just to comment worthless nonsene?

Penguin has NOTHING to do with content. And "webspam" is some empty wordshell used by Matt Cutts which doesn't mean anything because it CAN mean anything.
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TheProgrammer

12 years ago

Same thing happened with one of my site too, but it was newly created so i think its normal for new sites. What was your domain age?

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vivianso

12 years ago

Penguin update is same for all.If your site has been drop down then something should be disqualifying according to Penguin rules.

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ihasdiggs

12 years ago

I also faced the same with my one of the website and my traffic and earning drops suddenly

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John34

12 years ago

Originally Posted by faceblogger

Did some backlink analysis and found that one of my competitor has successfully took me off the SERP.

Now you can do the same to your competitor?

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looking4adsense

12 years ago

Google is doing this on purpose, so you have to pay for adwords to get on top. Google makes 0 dollars if you can get your site on top through SEO

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dmtaylor247

12 years ago

There are quite alot of people in SEO blogging world that are looking for solid confirmation that this is going on, they have even been asking for examples and case studies. If you don't mind a bit of critism then you should go ahead and share it. Once picked up you could create quite alot of viral link bait from a domain like this..

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dracoboar 12 years ago

Originally Posted by hacktheworld

The Penguin Update is All about WebSpam.Work on your Content.

Originally Posted by vivianso

Penguin update is same for all.If your site has been drop down then something should be disqualifying according to Penguin rules.

Did you guys even read the OP. It wasnt the penguine update that got him ti was a negative SEO attack manipulating penguin.

My advice would be to contact google immediately and then assume they are going to ignore you so that way you dont get your hopes up.
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yukon

Banned 12 years ago

No offense, but If they knocked you off the #1 SERP position that easily, I doubt you had much authority built up for that keyword.

Here's what I would do. Grab two more internal pages that are 100% relevant to the first ranked page/keyword, then rank those two internal pages the exact same way you ranked the first page.

You need to bulk up on authority for a single keyword spread across multiple internal pages. Don't settle for trying to rank a single page (anyone can do that).

You'll thank me later when you have double/triple SERP listings per keyword & your competition is sitting idle with his thumb up his a$$ wondering WTH just happened.

Don't act like the silly guys that go running to tell Google about their problems, build up authority on the keyword or I guarantee some other competition will gladly remove you from position #1 in the SERPs.

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dracoboar

12 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

No offense, but If they knocked you off the #1 SERP position that easily, I doubt you had much authority built up for that keyword.

Here's what I would do. Grab two more internal pages that are 100% relevant to the first ranked page/keyword, then rank those two internal pages the exact same way you ranked the first page.

You need to bulk up on authority for a single keyword spread across multiple internal pages. Don't settle for trying to rank a single page (anyone can do that).

You'll thank me later when you have double/triple SERP listings per keyword & your competition is sitting idle with his thumb up his a$$ wondering WTH just happened.

Don't act like the silly guys that go running to tell Google about their problems, build up authority on the keyword or I guarantee some other competition will gladly remove you from position #1 in the SERPs.

Yeah and then once they start showing up, presumably once they built almost as much authority as the original page I will bury these pages as well with a simple email to someone on fiverr, you just spent atleast twice as much time and money to run right into the exact same problem that the attacker can solve with 2 emails. The bottom-line is I can amke spam links that get indexed and count against you faster than you can create quality links.

Your arguement may be that you can eventually build so much authority it wont matter, this may be but are you going to continue with those same pages once I have buried them to get there?

Why is it silly to use that google gives him to report an issue? Google always gives lip service to the fact that they hate webspam so why not use the tool they hae provided?

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yukon

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by dracoboar

Yeah and then once they start showing up, presumably once they built almost as much authority as the original page I will bury these pages as well with a simple email to someone on fiverr, you just spent atleast twice as much time and money to run right into the exact same problem that the attacker can solve with 2 emails. The bottom-line is I can amke spam links that get indexed and count against you faster than you can create quality links.

Your arguement may be that you can eventually build so much authority it wont matter, this may be but are you going to continue with those same pages once I have buried them to get there?

Why is it silly to use that google gives him to report an issue? Google always gives lip service to the fact that they hate webspam so why not use the tool they hae provided?

Ok, get your $5 & send Wikipedia into oblivion.

I'll make it easy as possible & give you a longtail keyword phrase.

Target keyword ---> List of Major League Baseball stadiums

PM me when you remove Wiki form #1,2,3.

BTW, Don't say something like "Well, that's Wiki, that's not the same", because anyone can do the same things Wiki does, just depends If your serious or not.

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wilsonm

12 years ago

People with the tools such as Scrapebox, XRumer and co maybe would like to do it in the name of research.

Originally Posted by yukon

Ok, get your $5 & send Wikipedia into oblivion.

I'll make it easy as possible & give you a longtail keyword phrase.

PM me when you remove Wiki form #1.

BTW, Don't say something like "Well, that's Wiki, that's not the same", because anyone can do the same things Wiki does, just depends If your serious or not.

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yukon

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by wilsonm

People with the tools such as Scrapebox, XRumer and co maybe would like to do it in the name of research.

That's cool.

All I need is someone to drop those Wiki pages like a brick in the SERPs for the longtail keyword I posted above.

I'm all for testing new things, I think it's the best part of SEO.

I just want someone to remove those Wiki pages from the SERPs with negative SEO, because I've been told here that $5 will do the trick. Really I don't care If they spend $100 in crap links, I just want to see those pages disappear in the SERPs from all the negative SEO folks are talking about.

I don't doubt you can drop a single weak page in the SERPs, weak pages are just that "weak". What I want to see is someone drop a set of authority pages in the SERPs with crap links.

This should be an easy test. Besides, it's not like Wiki cares about that longtail test keyword phrase, heck their not making any money from the keyword, no big loss.

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dracoboar

12 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

That's cool.

All I need is someone to drop those Wiki pages like a brick in the SERPs for the longtail keyword I posted above.

I'm all for testing new things, I think it's the best part of SEO.

I just want someone to remove those Wiki pages from the SERPs with negative SEO, because I've been told here that $5 will do the trick. Really I don't care If they spend $100 in crap links, I just want to see those pages disappear in the SERPs from all the negative SEO folks are talking about.

I don't doubt you can drop a single weak page in the SERPs, weak pages are just that "weak". What I want to see is someone drop a set of authority pages in the SERPs with crap links.

This should be an easy test. Besides, it's not like Wiki cares about that longtail test keyword phrase, heck their not making any money from the keyword, no big loss.

Can you tell me where someone has said they can drop a high pr page on a great domain for $5, can you tell me how the pages you provided even closely relate to the example given by the OP?

Glad to see you admit you can attack what you call "weak" pages. BTW OP main assertion was penguin has made negative SEO easier, is there any disagreement on that?

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dracoboar

12 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

Ok, get your $5 & send Wikipedia into oblivion.

I'll make it easy as possible & give you a longtail keyword phrase.

PM me when you remove Wiki form #1,2,3.

BTW, Don't say something like "Well, that's Wiki, that's not the same", because anyone can do the same things Wiki does, just depends If your serious or not.

Great example of pr 5 pages for an exact match long tail keyword which would be the most difficult challenge. Did the op say his pages were PR 5? are the pages you are going to create going to be pr 5 before they show up in the serps and get attacked?

I dont think anyone is claiming that high pr pages from high pr domains would be insulated but as that is not the example we were discussing your comparison is ridiculous.

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yukon

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by dracoboar

Great example of pr 5 pages for an exact match long tail keyword which would be the most difficult challenge. Did the op say his pages were PR 5? are the pages you are going to create going to be pr 5 before they show up in the serps and get attacked?

I dont think anyone is claiming that high pr pages from high pr domains would be insulated but as that is not the example we were discussing your comparison is ridiculous.

C'mon now, no excuses, that's a really long keyword phrase for testing.

My point earlier was that ranking a single page is typical for IMers, they give up on a keyword just when they get started. What's the point in even trying to rank the first page If your going to give up & move on to the next keyword.

If a keyword gets 5,000 unique traffic per month at position #1 in the SERPs, I'll bet my last nickel positions #2 & #3 also have extra traffic.

Ranking the first page is the hard part, ranking the 2nd & 3rd page gets easier because you can piggyback off the first ranked page which is exactly what Wiki does.

A set of authority pages (per keyword) is tough to beat for the average competition.

Again, my advice for OP is in post #16 above. If the keyword is worthwhile, ranking a couple more pages per keyword is also worthwhile.

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dracoboar

12 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

C'mon now, no excuses, that's a really long keyword phrase for testing.

My point earlier was that ranking a single page is typical for IMers, they give up on a keyword just when they get started. What's the point in even trying to rank the first page If your going to give up & move on to the next keyword.

If a keyword gets 5,000 unique traffic per month at position #1 in the SERPs, I'll bet my last nickel positions #2 & #3 also have extra traffic.

Ranking the first page is the hard part, ranking the 2nd & 3rd page gets easier because you can piggyback off the first ranked page which is exactly what Wiki does.

A set of authority pages (per keyword) is tough to beat for the average competition.

Again, my advice for OP is in post #16 above. If the keyword is worthwhile, ranking a couple more pages per keyword is also worthwhile.

Co mpletely agree with you about ranking multiple pages, i usually use blogger or squidoo for this but yes it is a good practice.

However my point was that just as easily as his original page was destroyed so too can these be eliminated, especially for such a valuable keyword.

The OP point was that penguin made this process of negative SEO easier as ell and again that point still stands.

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faceblogger

12 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

No offense, but If they knocked you off the #1 SERP position that easily, I doubt you had much authority built up for that keyword.

Here's what I would do. Grab two more internal pages that are 100% relevant to the first ranked page/keyword, then rank those two internal pages the exact same way you ranked the first page.

You need to bulk up on authority for a single keyword spread across multiple internal pages. Don't settle for trying to rank a single page (anyone can do that).

You'll thank me later when you have double/triple SERP listings per keyword & your competition is sitting idle with his thumb up his a$$ wondering WTH just happened.

Don't act like the silly guys that go running to tell Google about their problems, build up authority on the keyword or I guarantee some other competition will gladly remove you from position #1 in the SERPs.

My point here is that penguin has made negative SEO much easier. I don't want anyone to make their own assumptions on how I built links with the very little info (only the ranking) I provided in OP.

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honestbiz 12 years ago

I think this Negative SEO is extremely serious. IMers need to band together and get the word out.

Otherwise, I guarantee most of you (those without deep pockets), you won't be able to make money online anymore, and quite soon.... Word about Google allowing and openly encouraging sabotaging of websites really needs to GO PUBLIC. This needs the FTC to step in. Maybe Huffington Post or some news channel can publicize this issue. Screw their proprietary algorithm classified data.

It is no longer the case of webmasters being bad boys and manipulating the SERPs, but Google allowing anyone to hit (just about) anyone. This is a totally different ballgame!

This is a ticking time bomb.
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yukon

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by faceblogger

My point here is that penguin has made negative SEO much easier. I don't want anyone to make their own assumptions on how I built links with the very little info (only the ranking) I provided in OP.

Knocking out weak pages in the SERPs has always been easy.

No offense, just saying it's nothing to do with any recent algo. update.

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honestbiz

12 years ago

I really think the lot of you are just wasting a lot of time discussing here how to rank your sites, when you all ignore the fact that unless you are Amazon or eBay, anyone can easily cough up $20 quid and knock whatever rankings you have into oblivion....and there goes whatever you are making.

It doesn't matter if you have natural links or you have a great website with "great content". You are wide open to sabotage.

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trimedic37

12 years ago

Originally Posted by honestbiz

I really think the lot of you are just wasting a lot of time discussing here how to rank your sites, when you all ignore the fact that unless you are Amazon or eBay, anyone can easily cough up $20 quid and knock whatever rankings you have into oblivion....and there goes whatever you are making.

It doesn't matter if you have natural links or you have a great website with "great content". You are wide open to sabotage.

Yep....that's about right. Websites that are entirely dependent on Google's serp are playing a dangerous game. I am all for building authoritative sites, but I am not for dependency on Google. A better plan would be to diversify your traffic sources so that you don't put all your eggs in one basket and get your feeling's hurt (and pocket book) when the bottom of the basket falls out.

Yeah, I agree they are the big boy on the block and a top position in Google's serp means big money.....for a little while. But it isn't bullet proof, it isn't permanent and someone is always going to be trying to knock you off, especially if you are making really good money.

If your Analytics report is reflecting 75+ % of your traffic coming from Google's serp, you need to seriously re-think your long term game plan, whether your making money right now or not.

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faceblogger 12 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

Knocking out weak pages in the SERPs has always been easy.

Yeah you're right. Because, I want to make money easily and cost effectively. Btw, did anyone talk about whether it's easy to rank or not? Did I say anywhere that it's a difficult task?

Again, My point here is that penguin has made negative SEO much easier.

Originally Posted by yukon

No offense, just saying it's nothing to do with any recent algo. update.

It is because of the recent update clearly. No offence, if you say no, it's just you and your own assumption. Because, you have no idea on the nature of the site and you're just trying to make your assumptions only based on the rank info I provided (lol). I am not trying to argue with you here just saying
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dracoboar

12 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

Knocking out weak pages in the SERPs has always been easy.

No offense, just saying it's nothing to do with any recent algo. update.

I like how you made the assumption that his site was weak because it was knocked out so "easy".

Then you jumped to a pr 5 url on one of the most prestigious domains on the web and said ok knock that out.

There is a HUGE gap between "weak" and a pr5 url on PR 9 wikipedia. Was his site pr 3 or 4 or even 5 just not wikipedia? you dont know but made assumptions and called it weak.

I dont see why you cant admit that anchor text overoptimization made it dramatically easier to de-rank a site.

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yukon

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by dracoboar

I like how you made the assumption that his site was weak because it was knocked out so "easy".

Then you jumped to a pr 5 url on one of the most prestigious domains on the web and said ok knock that out.

There is a HUGE gap between "weak" and a pr5 url on PR 9 wikipedia. Was his site pr 3 or 4 or even 5 just not wikipedia? you dont know but made assumptions and called it weak.

I dont see why you cant admit that anchor text overoptimization made it dramatically easier to de-rank a site.

You told me earlier all you needed to do was send an email to a guy on fiverr & $5 then your negative SEO would remove the sites pages from the SERPs.

Make excuses or remove the Wiki page.

If your $5 can't remove the pages above, that's cool because I never thought you would remove any authority pages from the SERPs, that's exactly what I said from the beginning.

OPs page was obviously weak in the SERPs, that's just the way SERPs work, weak pages drop, authority pages rank.

Again, dropping weak pages isn't anything new.

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dracoboar

12 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

You told me earlier all you needed to do was send an email to a guy on fiverr & $5 then your negative SEO would remove the sites pages from the SERPs.

Make excuses or remove the Wiki page.

If your $5 can't remove the pages above, that's cool because I never thought you would remove any authority pages from the SERPs, that's exactly what I said from the beginning.

OPs page was obviously weak in the SERPs, that's just the way SERPs work, weak pages drop, authority pages rank.

Again, dropping weak pages isn't anything new.

You keep saying I said I could drop a high pr wikipedia page for $5 and then maintain that his page was weak.

What I actually said was I could drop your page if it was similar to his, you cannot call his page weak then equivicate when it suits your needs and then make that same page a pr 5 wikipedia page.

The bottom line is penguin has made it MUCH easier to derank a site and no a pr 5 wikipedia site does not count as "weak"

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yukon

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by dracoboar

You keep saying I said I could drop a high pr wikipedia page for $5 and then maintain that his page was weak.

What I actually said was I could drop your page if it was similar to his, you cannot call his page weak then equivicate when it suits your needs and then make that same page a pr 5 wikipedia page.

The bottom line is penguin has made it MUCH easier to derank a site and no a pr 5 wikipedia site does not count as "weak"

Ok, so we both agree.

Your saying the 3 Wiki pages are authority on the keyword for the link I posted above (I say the same).

Your saying OPs keyword/page is nothing like the Wiki pages, so that means OPs page has to be weak in the SERPs (I say the same).

Doesn't that about sum it up?

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There is absolutely no reason in the world that OP can't create more authority pages on his site (per keyword). A guy can sit idle & talk about how the competition knocked his page down the SERPs, or he can say the he$$ with that I don't give up that easy, just depends If their serious about ranking a keyword.

BTW, I don't need to see a link profile for those 3 Wiki pages to know that Wiki has some authority built up for that keyword phrase I posted earlier, common sense says 3 pages ranked for a single keyword is going to be tough competition. I don't even need to look at those 3 Wiki pages PR, again, 3 pages ranked in the SERPs is based on keyword authority.

Rank multiple pages per keyword or wait for the competition to drop your page in the SERPs.

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dracoboar

12 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

Ok, so we both agree.

Your saying the 3 Wiki pages are authority on the keyword for the link I posted above (I say the same).

Your saying OPs keyword/page is nothing like the Wiki pages, so that means OPs page has to be weak in the SERPs (I say the same).

Doesn't that about sum it up?

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There is absolutely no reason in the world that OP can't create more authority pages on his site (per keyword). A guy can sit idle & talk about how the competition knocked his page down the SERPs, or he can say the he$$ with that I don't give up that easy, just depends If their serious about ranking a keyword.

BTW, I don't need to see a link profile for those 3 Wiki pages to know that Wiki has some authority built up for that keyword phrase I posted earlier, common sense says 3 pages ranked for a single keyword is going to be tough competition. I don't even need to look at those 3 Wiki pages PR, again, 3 pages ranked in the SERPs is based on keyword authority.

Rank multiple pages per keyword or wait for the competition to drop your page in the SERPs.

Ok a few things here, first I have no idea if the OPs page was weak or not, that was your characterization not mine. I said however that if you were to rebuild a page like his I could de-rank it and thus it may very well e futile to keep trying to rebuild the page.

You have not specifically addressed the pont of having the pages attacked while you were building them.

Secondly you keep mentioning that he needs to rank multiple pages, I think we all agree, however the OP did not cover that subject, his assertion was that penguin made it much easier to de-rank a page, again you did not directly address that point.

Do we all agree multiple pages ranking for a keyword is a good idea? Yes but that has little to do with the OP. Ironically as you mentioned I think we are all in fundamental agreement

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trentonlaura

12 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

No offense, but If they knocked you off the #1 SERP position that easily, I doubt you had much authority built up for that keyword.

Here's what I would do. Grab two more internal pages that are 100% relevant to the first ranked page/keyword, then rank those two internal pages the exact same way you ranked the first page.

You need to bulk up on authority for a single keyword spread across multiple internal pages. Don't settle for trying to rank a single page (anyone can do that).

You'll thank me later when you have double/triple SERP listings per keyword & your competition is sitting idle with his thumb up his a$$ wondering WTH just happened.

Don't act like the silly guys that go running to tell Google about their problems, build up authority on the keyword or I guarantee some other competition will gladly remove you from position #1 in the SERPs.

Maybe a dumb question but if I set out to rank for a keyword on say one page each on two of my domains plus a page from a site like Squidoo, should I be interlinking these 3 pages with one another, as well? Is that the point; that having multiple pages which are all ranking decently on their own linking to one another to boost each other's presence further?

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jakecoop79

12 years ago

I don't think google cares about this stuff at all. They clearly don't like internet marketers, or anyone who "builds links in an attempt to manipulate rankings".

I think they are perfectly content to let chaos reign in Internet Marketing. Google will make sure the big brands rank and that they rake in the Adwords money.

For google's purposes, I think anarchy and a wild west mentality in internet marketing is good for them. This is actually a great solution for them. They don't have to work so hard to stop spam. They just had to flick a switch and let the internet marketers start cannibalizing each other.

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honestbiz

12 years ago

Originally Posted by jakecoop79

I don't think google cares about this stuff at all. They clearly don't like internet marketers, or anyone who "builds links in an attempt to manipulate rankings".

I think they are perfectly content to let chaos reign in Internet Marketing. Google will make sure the big brands rank and that they rake in the Adwords money.

For google's purposes, I think anarchy and a wild west mentality in internet marketing is good for them. This is actually a great solution for them. They don't have to work so hard to stop spam. They just had to flick a switch and let the internet marketers start cannibalizing each other.

We can make Google care. As long as most of you keep on having this mentality, you are all doomed....(well, most of you anyway).

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jakecoop79 12 years ago

Originally Posted by honestbiz

We can make Google care. As long as most of you keep on having this mentality, you are all doomed....(well, most of you anyway).

And how exactly do you plan on making google care?
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pepelino

12 years ago

The best solution for the Google penguin update is just to keep cranking out thousands of web pages/blog posts with long tail keywords(those keywords that have less than 10 monthly search volume- trust me it adds up at the end) on an aged domain name, with little or no backlinking. Even if you are going to build links do not use your primary keyword as your anchor text. Just use phrases such as "click here for more info", "click here", "read more", "learn more" e.t.c. The days of building links with your keyword as the anchor text is gone forever, guys!

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Alminc

12 years ago

Originally Posted by pepelino

The best solution for the Google penguin update is just to keep cranking out thousands of web pages/blog posts with long tail keywords(those keywords that have less than 10 monthly search volume- trust me it adds up at the end) on an aged domain name, with little or no backlinking. Even if you are going to build links do not use your primary keyword as your anchor text. Just use phrases such as "click here for more info", "click here", "read more", "learn more" e.t.c. The days of building links with your keyword as the anchor text is gone forever, guys!

Interesting method. I was thinking about it as an option long before Panda
and Penguin, maybe now it's the time to do an experiment.

Thanks

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